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""Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"

Snewser has proven to be the most reliable and consistent source of insider “sourced” Survivor information. He protects his source, and reveals the weekly picks in a fair and consistent way, without disrupting the other games and spoiling activities of the spoiling community. He has earned our respect.

His Survivor spoiling game has become a fixture in the spoiling community and attracts the best of the spoiling community’s spoilers, who play the game to compete for bragging rights at the end of the season. This season it’s called “Jump the Shark”.

The questions Snewser writes for the game are based on a combination of information obtained from his “source”, and his knowledge of the current state of the spoiling gathered from the various spoiling boards. He apparently compares what he knows will happen, to what is being speculated, and arrives at a set of questions that focus on that which is still unclear. Additionally, he assigns point values to the questions that reflect his assessment of their difficulty.

Analyzing the questions being asked, and the point values assigned, will often provide some insights into what Snewser knows, and what he thinks the spoiling community doesn’t know… another opportunity for “spoiling the spoiler”.

The EP1 questions are a particularly good example, because at the time the questions were posted, the spoiling community was way off track with respect to Jeff Wilson, who most had speculated (thanks to MSN.com) would be eliminated by the “pick ‘em” along with Wanda.

Snewser asks:

“Not counting Wanda, which other player will leave the game before the first challenge?” 20 points.

In hindsight this question is an indication that the “obvious” Jeff Wilson, who most had concluded to be the other player eliminated, was the wrong answer, otherwise Snewser would not have assigned the high value of 20 points to this question. Snewser obviously knew most of us had it wrong, as indicated by his comments on the scorecard…”(What? Almost everyone getting the first Episode wrong? hehehe)”

Snewser also asks:

“What tribe will Jeff end up on?” 5 points.
“What tribe will Katie end up on?” 5 points.

Katie was one of the last players to be placed on a tribe and her tribe status was still unknown at the time Snewser posted his questions. In hindsight again, we should have recognized his question about Jeff’s tribe, as an indication that Snewser knew Jeff was not the other player eliminated with Wanda.

While Snewser usually knows who’s going each week by Thursday morning, it’s unclear how much other advanced knowledge he gets each week about the details of the show. This week we caught a good glimpse of Snewser’s advanced knowledge with respect to Jeff, Wanda and Jonathan.

Snewser gets advanced information; just how much we don’t know, but taking a close look at the questions asked each week in the “Jump the Shark” game offers us a clue. It’s a potential spoiling tool we should add to our arsenal, if we’re not already using it, as we continue in our effort to "spoil the spoilers".


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Scarlett O Hara 02-17-05 1
   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... biancaxxx 02-17-05 2
   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... pmspml5 02-17-05 3
       RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... biancaxxx 02-17-05 4
           RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Scarlett O Hara 02-17-05 5
               RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... biancaxxx 02-17-05 6
                   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Scarlett O Hara 02-17-05 7
                       RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... biancaxxx 02-17-05 8
                       RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... KObrien_fan 02-17-05 9
                           RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... pmspml5 02-17-05 10
                               RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... biancaxxx 02-17-05 11
 RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Scarlett O Hara 02-17-05 12
   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... biancaxxx 02-17-05 13
       RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Flowerpower 02-17-05 14
           RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... biancaxxx 02-17-05 15
               RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Scarlett O Hara 02-17-05 17
                   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... cowboyroo 02-17-05 50
           RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... biancaxxx 02-17-05 16
               RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Flowerpower 02-17-05 18
                   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... biancaxxx 02-17-05 19
                       RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... KObrien_fan 02-17-05 20
                           RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Scarlett O Hara 02-17-05 21
                   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... jusalurker 02-17-05 22
                       RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... biancaxxx 02-17-05 23
 RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Scarlett O Hara 02-17-05 24
   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... biancaxxx 02-17-05 25
   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... KObrien_fan 02-17-05 26
   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... forehead 02-17-05 27
   Invite me! Bebo 02-17-05 28
   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... cowboyroo 02-17-05 48
 RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Scarlett O Hara 02-17-05 29
   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Bebo 02-17-05 30
   I would PhoenixMons 02-17-05 40
   pick me sorgee 02-17-05 43
 RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Scarlett O Hara 02-17-05 31
   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... biancaxxx 02-17-05 32
   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Corvis 02-17-05 33
   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Krautboy 02-17-05 34
 RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Scarlett O Hara 02-17-05 35
   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... biancaxxx 02-17-05 36
   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Corvis 02-17-05 37
       RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... forehead 02-17-05 38
           RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Corvis 02-17-05 39
   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... emydi 02-17-05 45
 Same wavelength PhoenixMons 02-17-05 41
   RE: Same wavelength biancaxxx 02-17-05 42
 Two thoughts Bebo 02-17-05 44
 RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Flowerpower 02-17-05 46
   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... KObrien_fan 02-17-05 47
 RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... redbeard103152 02-17-05 49
 RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... biancaxxx 02-18-05 51
   VOTE EARLY & OFTEN emydi 02-18-05 53
   RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... redbeard103152 02-18-05 54
 Snewserkickers... tribephyl 02-18-05 52
 History of "Jump the Shark" braveheart 02-19-05 55
   RE: History of "Jump the Shark" Flowerpower 02-19-05 56
       RE: History of "Jump the Shark" braveheart 02-19-05 57
           RE: History of "Jump the Shark" Flowerpower 02-19-05 58
               RE: History of "Jump the Shark" braveheart 02-19-05 59
   RE: History of "Jump the Shark" munson 02-19-05 60
       RE: History of "Jump the Shark" braveheart 02-19-05 61
 Ep 2 game up! Questions here. biancaxxx 02-19-05 62
   RE: Ep 2 game up! Questions here. Flowerpower 02-19-05 63
       RE: Ep 2 game up! Questions here. biancaxxx 02-19-05 64
           RE: Ep 2 game up! Questions here. Scarlett O Hara 02-19-05 65
               RE: Ep 2 game up! Questions here. biancaxxx 02-19-05 67
           RE: Ep 2 game up! Questions here. Flowerpower 02-19-05 66
               RE: Ep 2 game up! Questions here. biancaxxx 02-19-05 68
 Email addresses biancaxxx 02-20-05 69
   Emails sent biancaxxx 02-21-05 70
 30 Points for Ashlee Krautboy 02-24-05 71
   RE: 30 Points for Ashlee Bebo 02-24-05 72
       RE: 30 Points for Ashlee ohmyheck 02-24-05 73
   RE: 30 Points for Ashlee biancaxxx 02-24-05 74
 RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Too... Markopolo100 02-24-05 75
 EP3: Spoiling Tool Krautboy 02-27-05 76
   RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool volsfan 02-27-05 77
   RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool emydi 02-27-05 78
       RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool Markopolo100 02-28-05 79
   RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool Scarlett O Hara 02-28-05 80
       RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool Logic Wins 02-28-05 81
           RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool Logic Wins 02-28-05 82
               RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool biancaxxx 02-28-05 83
                   RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool Debberz13 02-28-05 84
                       Katie competing? Krautboy 02-28-05 85
                           RE: Katie competing? sylvester 02-28-05 89
               RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool sylvester 02-28-05 86
           RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool Brownroach 02-28-05 87
               RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool Krautboy 02-28-05 88
                   Also... FesterFan1 03-01-05 106
 Why on earth???? KObrien_fan 02-28-05 90
   RE: Why on earth???? Corvis 02-28-05 91
       RE: Why on earth???? KObrien_fan 02-28-05 92
           RE: Why on earth???? Brownroach 02-28-05 95
               RE: Why on earth???? KObrien_fan 02-28-05 96
               RE: Why on earth???? Krautboy 02-28-05 99
       RE: Why on earth???? Loree 02-28-05 101
   RE: Why on earth???? Krautboy 02-28-05 93
       RE: Why on earth???? KObrien_fan 02-28-05 94
           RE: Why on earth???? Krautboy 02-28-05 98
   Devil's Advocate FesterFan1 03-01-05 105
 Spoiling the Spoiler Krautboy 02-28-05 97
   RE: Spoiling the Spoiler Brownroach 02-28-05 100
   New post from Snewser at Blows Brownroach 03-01-05 102
       RE: New post from Snewser at Blows volsfan 03-01-05 103
           RE: New post from Snewser at Blows biancaxxx 03-01-05 104
       RE: New post from Snewser at Blows Bebo 03-01-05 107
 More from CMC Brownroach 03-01-05 108
   RE: More from CMC Krautboy 03-01-05 109
 Spoiling the Spoiler: The Shark? Krautboy 03-01-05 110
 Congrats Snewserkickers! Krautboy 03-04-05 111
   RE: Congrats Snewserkickers! Peachezz 03-04-05 112
   RE: Congrats Snewserkickers! biancaxxx 03-04-05 113
       RE: Congrats Snewserkickers! Flowerpower 03-04-05 114
   RE: Congrats Snewserkickers! redbeard103152 03-04-05 115
       Sig pic size... IceCat 03-04-05 117
           RE: Sig pic size... redbeard103152 03-04-05 118
   RE: Congrats Snewserkickers! forehead 03-04-05 116
       RE: Congrats Snewserkickers! biancaxxx 03-06-05 121
   RE: Congrats Snewserkickers! Peachezz 03-06-05 119
       RE: Congrats Snewserkickers! biancaxxx 03-06-05 120
           RE: Congrats Snewserkickers! Peachezz 03-09-05 149
               RE: Congrats Snewserkickers! biancaxxx 03-09-05 150
 EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler Krautboy 03-07-05 122
   RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler biancaxxx 03-07-05 123
       RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler Flowerpower 03-07-05 124
           RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler Peachezz 03-07-05 125
           RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler television 03-07-05 129
               RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler Devious Weasel 03-07-05 131
                   Make it two Bebo 03-07-05 132
                       RE: Make it two Brownroach 03-07-05 134
                           So... Bebo 03-07-05 135
           RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler Devious Weasel 03-07-05 133
           RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler Thumper 03-07-05 136
               RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler kingfish 03-07-05 138
               RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler biancaxxx 03-08-05 143
                   RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler kingfish 03-08-05 146
                       RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler biancaxxx 03-08-05 147
           RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler LookeeLoo 03-07-05 139
               RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler Flowerpower 03-12-05 161
       RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler Debberz13 03-07-05 126
           Wet and Dry Debberz13 03-07-05 127
               RE: Wet and Dry sylvester 03-07-05 128
                   RE: Wet and Dry Debberz13 03-07-05 130
   RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler Bebo 03-07-05 137
       RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler biancaxxx 03-08-05 140
           RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler KObrien_fan 03-08-05 141
               RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler biancaxxx 03-08-05 142
                   RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler cowboyroo 03-08-05 144
                       RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler biancaxxx 03-08-05 145
 Callout to Beebs & Scarlett! biancaxxx 03-09-05 148
   RE: Callout to Beebs & Scarlett! Bebo 03-09-05 151
 Snewserkickers #2!!! biancaxxx 03-11-05 152
   RE: Snewserkickers #2!!! KObrien_fan 03-11-05 153
       RE: Snewserkickers #2!!! redbeard103152 03-11-05 154
           RE: Snewserkickers #2!!! Debberz13 03-11-05 155
               RE: Snewserkickers #2!!! kary1371 03-14-05 169
   RE: Snewserkickers #2!!! Corvis 03-11-05 156
   RE: Snewserkickers #2!!! Krautboy 03-11-05 157
       RE: Snewserkickers #2!!! biancaxxx 03-11-05 159
       RE: Snewserkickers #2!!! redbeard103152 03-12-05 160
           RE: Snewserkickers #2!!! Flowerpower 03-12-05 162
   RE: Snewserkickers #2!!! forehead 03-11-05 158
 Ep5 Questions Up! biancaxxx 03-14-05 163
   RE: Ep5 Questions Up! tribephyl 03-14-05 164
       RE: Ep5 Questions Up! Krautboy 03-14-05 165
   RE: Ep5 Questions Up! Brownroach 03-14-05 166
       Ep5 Questions forehead 03-14-05 167
           RE: Ep5 Questions Brownroach 03-14-05 168
               RE: Ep5 Questions kary1371 03-14-05 170
                   RE: Ep5 Questions Brownroach 03-14-05 171
                       RE: Ep5 Questions kary1371 03-14-05 172

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Scarlett O Hara 3439 desperate attention whore postings
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1. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
KB ... I am not surprised that you would introduce us to yet another valuable spoiling tool! Thank you! Can you provide a link to that game for us as well? Thanks!

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02-17-05, 08:56 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
http://www.survivornews.net/game/
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02-17-05, 08:57 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
I had mentioned these questions in the other threads several times. Here is the link.

http://www.survivornews.net/game/

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4. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
will realitytvworld have a team?
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02-17-05, 09:17 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
Of course we should have a team! Sign up in this thread if you are interested!

Do you have to log in to view the game? I am linking up to Survivor News ... to a log in dialog box ...


Scarlett

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02-17-05, 09:19 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
Yeah you have to register first to view the game

Somebody make a team, then we can all join it! But we have to hurry because voting closes at 11am I think!

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02-17-05, 09:22 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
Any ideas for team name? Throw them out here! S.Blows Spoilers?



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02-17-05, 09:25 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
Or we could just have it Survivor Blows
and only give the password out to those in spoilers? We only want spoiler people to be in the team, so we get a high score! ;)
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9. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
I'll play if that's ok, would love to try that game out.


S10 PTB Sign up HERE

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10. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
I'm already in the game but can still join a team - we have to have 8 people fast though. The key to his game is getting high bonus points. The faster you answer the more bonus points - but taking time to get the answers right is the key as well.

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11. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
is there any way to leave a team? i've joined 3 lol but i dont want to be in one of them anymore
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12. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
LAST EDITED ON 02-17-05 AT 09:37 AM (EST)

Okay ... we now have signed up for our team ...

Scarlett O Hara
pmspml
Biancaxx
KOFan
Flower Power

Biancaxx ... do you want to take the lead and set up the S.Blows team format?


Or shall I do the honors?

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13. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
Ok I'll make it now
What name and what password should we have?
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14. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
LAST EDITED ON 02-17-05 AT 09:39 AM (EST)

Krautboy should be in since it was his idea to follow it, LOL!

Instead of calling it ASSkickers, we could call it SSuckskickers, LOL!!!

I think forehead would be great in it, after all he was oh so close to that car!!!!


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15. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
LAST EDITED ON 02-17-05 AT 09:38 AM (EST)

Well he had better hurry! Only 4 hours left to vote and have our team set up! lol

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17. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
LAST EDITED ON 02-17-05 AT 09:44 AM (EST)

I agree we need to have KB! How about SBlows Spoilers
Password: Blows


SnewserKickers does have a nice ring to it however!

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50. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
I didn't get an invite... I feel like jonathan and Wanda...

My member name is cowboyroo

I'll still join if you want me

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LAST EDITED ON 02-17-05 AT 09:39 AM (EST)

OH OOPS!
I thought u meant kraut should create the team lol

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LAST EDITED ON 02-17-05 AT 09:43 AM (EST)

No, we can always get him in later, now we just have to enter the team....

ETA: You don't like SSuckskickers??? What about Snewserkickers,

....and Bebo is awesome at these guessing games...

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19. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
I dont mind what the name is, I feel odd choosing, since I'm really new around here lol. So you and Scarlett decide
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20. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
Somebody decide and make the team please...


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21. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
LAST EDITED ON 02-17-05 AT 09:58 AM (EST)

I'll go do it right now!;-
ETA: I have formed the team "Snewserkickers". I will e-mail all of you the password....


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22. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
Bianca, If you want to leave a team, just send a message to the keymaster and that person can remove you from the team!
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23. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
thanks!
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24. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
Okay, I have formed the Team "Snewserkickers". Please post your "Member Name" for the Game in this thread and I can then invite you to play on our team.
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25. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
My member name is Bianca
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26. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
I joined already, I'm in there, thanks!


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27. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
LAST EDITED ON 02-17-05 AT 10:44 AM (EST)

forehead can give it a shot. Just send me the password.

ETA: Got it, thanks!


Close but no car...

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28. "Invite me!"
Please - I'm Beebs.


Beblo and Kimdra

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48. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
cowboyroo

Pick me, Pick me...my name's not johnathan or wanda

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29. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
LAST EDITED ON 02-17-05 AT 10:35 AM (EST)

So far Biancaxx, Scarlett, FlowerPower & KOFan have joined our Team. We are still waiting for pmspml and forehead to join.

Also ... we need two more teammates!

ETA: Bebo has just been invited....



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30. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
I have joined the party!

I hereby apologize in advance for bringing down the team results. I think my biggest contribution is to make others feel prouder of their efforts.


Beblo and Kimdra

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40. "I would"
but I'm going to be out of town for a month and wouldn't want to screw up Blows' chances of kicking the snot out of the other teams I've got my own team though.

Go Snewskickers!!!!!!!!


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43. "pick me"
LAST EDITED ON 02-17-05 AT 12:11 PM (EST)

i'd live to play!

*had to edit to add that i do, in fact, mean live rather than love. i'm really looking forward to this season.*

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31. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
Welcome to the Show, BeBo!! I am going to go start a thread in Fanatics to find a few more teammates and to start up a discussion/debate thread regarding the Weekly Questions.



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32. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
make sure they check out the spoilers before voting
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33. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
I'd like to join. Can you send me the password, please?
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34. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
This wasn't exactly my intention for this thread...but I'm in if you need another..."Krautboy"


Krautboy

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35. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
LAST EDITED ON 02-17-05 AT 11:03 AM (EST)

Krautboy and Corvis have now been invited and that rounds our number to 8. Can others join or is 8 the maximum?


ETA: Check your e-mails or your red flags for the invite!

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36. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
you can have as many members as you like I think!
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37. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
How did you invite me? I don't seem to have a PM. Is there an invite mechanism in the game itself? :confused
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38. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
check your e-mail...


Close but no car...

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39. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
I have it. Thanks!
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45. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
LAST EDITED ON 02-17-05 AT 03:04 PM (EST)

Scar

Check you red flag

emy

ETA: I'm on the team, but after this week, you may want to boot me, Scar et al



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41. "Same wavelength"
Last night when I was reading over the questions again, I thought there were definite clues. The Jeff on what tribe question stood out in particular (I hadn't paid much attention to points values, but that is an excellent catch). There were a few others (the one about how the team captains are chosen was actually the first one I noticed because none of the options that we've been tossing around were listed...was wondering if maybe we're off course there even though all things seem to point toward a 'race' of some sort to determine the captains).

Good catch, KB and thanks for posting it



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42. "RE: Same wavelength"
it is a race
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44. "Two thoughts"
1. KB, I know what you were trying to do with this thread, and I think it's a great idea to use Snewser's questions as part of our spoiling.

2. I think that discussion of the weekly questions should stay her in spoilers, since there could be some spoiler discussion involved. For example, any discussion on who's on which tribe this period will definitely include answers based on spoiler info.


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46. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
Just wanted to add that I too think we will indeed be able to use the questions in the game to our advantage here at blows.

Secondly, for the rest of the team, I am Dallastarlily in the game.

Thirdly, this may perhaps be a bit premature, but I can't wait to see what KOfan will do with our new Snewserkickers winning siggies, Ha!


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47. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
LAST EDITED ON 02-17-05 AT 01:34 PM (EST)

Let's not put the cart before the horse, we haven't won anything yet and there is a legion of other teams out there that will be vying for the championship...

ETA: spelling error


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49. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
Would love to be added to this awesome team.Redbeard103152RedBeard
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51. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
LAST EDITED ON 02-18-05 AT 07:46 AM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 02-18-05 AT 05:01 AM (EST)

Snewserkickers average score is 149.285 and we are ranked 4

We have 3 members in the top 20
Corvis #5 181.29
KrautBoy #9 177.97
Bianca #11 174.65

and one soon-to-be-member
Redbeard103 #20 172.499 (Scarlett, invite Redbeard to our team, because I don't think he has been added yet)

It's all about bonus points and getting a good team average, so the earlier you vote, the better (with correct answers!)

Let's go SK!

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53. "VOTE EARLY & OFTEN"
RIGHT!!

I got all the ?s right except my Jeff pick (120pts) but I did not get very much bc I came into the game so late.(only about 8 1/2 pts)

CONGRATS TO EVERYONE ON A GREAT FIRST WEEK!!!



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and Tribe, why aren't you on our team????? great placement after week 1!!

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54. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
Thanks very much for inviting me. Will do all I can to help the team. Keep up the great work RedBeard
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52. "Snewserkickers..."
Excellent job gang...
4th place ain't nothing to snuff at.

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55. "History of "Jump the Shark""
Braveheart

I was watchin the "Happy Days Reunion" a couple of weeks ago (don't ask why)and they explained "Jump the Shark".

In Hollywood they use the term, "It's a Jump the Shark Episode" when a series is about to cancelled and they have to do an outrageous episode to try to pull in the veiwers to save the series.

The term "Jump the Shark Episode" first originated when Happy Days was about to be cancelled and they had all the gang from the show flown to a resort location to film this outrageous episode to save the show. In this episode Fonzie had to Jump Over A Shark on waterskies!

The tactic didn't work in this case and Happy Days was cancelled.

To this day TV producers still use the term, "It's a Jump the Shark Episode" when they have to film an outrageous episode to save the show!

I don't know what Snewster is implying by calling his game "Jump the Shark!" I hope it doesn't mean that this Survivor is going to be an outrageous season right before it's cancelled???? I can't see that...it's till pretty popular. I would have major withdrawl!!!!

Of course it might have nothing to do with the Happy Days connection and just mean that one of our Suvivors will have to Jump The Shark!!! LOLOL

Any thoughts?

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56. "RE: History of "Jump the Shark""
Thanks for the "Jump the Shark" history lesson, Braveheart! I don't think in this case that it applies to the show being cancelled as CBS has contracted for at least 2 more seasons following this one! Perhaps it is in regard to the rumor that a shark was killed by one of the survivors in a VERY exciting and detailed manner all captured on underwater film. At first some peeps were thinking that that ole hoaxster Seraphaem started these rumors, but I am inclined to think that it was Dan Bolinger that first brought speculation regarding the "shark incident". Just a guess, perhaps there is more to the rumored shart footage than we think!


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57. "RE: History of "Jump the Shark""
Thanks for the update FlowerPower...love your tag BTW.

I just thought that the exact term "Jump the Shark" referred to this Hollywood insider thing. It could have been called, "Shark Attack", or "Kill the Shark", or something like that but he chose the exact term, "Jump the Shark".

It should be a pretty exciting episode if in fact one of the Survivors kills a shark! It was pretty exciting when Richard Hatch got bit by a shark!

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58. "RE: History of "Jump the Shark""
LAST EDITED ON 02-19-05 AT 03:42 PM (EST)

Thanks, Braveheart! I have KOfan and Icecat to thank for them! Anyway, you could be on to something with this "Jump the Shark" name....sure hope not though....would hate to see the show canc@$%^&*...can't even say it! At any rate, maybe the footage of the shark attack/kill is so spectacular that it will be the "jump the shark" episode that indeed saves the series! Let's hope it turns out this way! Can't wait, we all know how Snewser loves to throw out clues, let's hope this is a clue to the saving episode! Perhaps you and Snewser were on the same wavelength and you both caught the Happy Day's Reunion show...who'd have imagined, Snewser, a Happy Day's fan! He's just full of surprises!



I like your gif as well!

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59. "RE: History of "Jump the Shark""
Glad to hear the show has been picked up for at least 2 more seasons! Whew!

I'd love to hear Snewsers rationale for the term Jump the Shark!

Braveheart

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60. "RE: History of "Jump the Shark""
The tactic didn't work in this case and Happy Days was cancelled.

...but not until several seasons later.

When discussing the "Jump the Shark" episode, Garry Marshall was very proud of the fact that the show hung around for another hundred episodes.

jumptheshark.com is one of my Favorites. Makes for some amsuing reading. Just to clarify, "jumping the shark" doesn't really, or always, refer to an effort to prevent cancellation. It's better defined as (from the homepage of jts.com)

"It's a moment. A defining moment when you know your favorite television program has reached it's peak. The instant that you know from now on...it's all downhill. Some call it the climax. We call it jumping the shark."

Often, the show continues, sometimes (like Happy Days) for years. But it's just not he same. From the same time period, think Laverne & Shirley move to California, or Cindy replaces Chrissy on Three's Company or Mr. Furley replaces the Ropers.

For me, Survivor jumped the shark with the return of the Ghost Tribe. Others insist it was much, much earlier.


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61. "RE: History of "Jump the Shark""
Thanks for the insight Munson! Sorry I was wrong about the immediate cancellation..oops. But you get the jist of it.

Happy Days may have stuck around for awhile but as you say they reached the pinnacle of the show. Yes there were spin-offs but they never really reached the popularity of the original show...take Friends and now Joey. "But it's just not he same."

For me Survivor has been Jumping the Shark for quite some time now. MB needs to change the type of locations, the type of contestants (people of all the same demographics as I suggested a few seasons ago would be interesting as it wouldn't always be the young vs the the older, men vs. women etc).

Currently the show is always on a beach, always the same type of challenges, always the same type of contestants....sure they throw the odd screwball in to the mix but the rest of the contestants are pretty much same-oh same-oh.

I'm just curious as to why Snewser chose this season to play a game called Jump the Shark? As FP suggested...maybe the shark episode will spin more interest in this season.

One thing's for sure....This messageboard is definately not Jumping the Shark. Survivor for me wouldn't be the same without this board!

Braveheart

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62. "Ep 2 game up! Questions here."
Guys we have to work this out ASAP so we can get early-bird bonus points!

Here are the questions:

Will Koror manage to retrieve the box that they accidentally dropped into the sea?
Yes - They'll retrive the whole box
No - but they'll open it and get something out of it
No - they won't retrive any part of it
none of the above or inconclusive

Will anyone catch a fish in this episode?
Yes - one or more people on Koror
Yes - one or more people on Ulong
Yes - one or more people on each tribe
None of the above or inconclusive

Which tribe will win the reward challenge?
Koror
Ulong
None of the above or inconclusive

Who from Koror will sit outof the Reward Challenge?
Coby
Ian
Janu
Gregg
Caryn
Tom
Jennifer
Katie
Willard
None of the above or more than one

What is the reward from the reward challenge?
Food
Fishing and/or hunting gear
Both of the above
None of the above

Which tribe will win the immunity challenge?
koror
ulong
none of the above or inconlusive

Who from koror will sit out of the immunity challenge?
Coby
Ian
Janu
Gregg
Caryn
Tom
Jennifer
Katie
Willard
None of the above or more than one

According to CBS, one Survivor is suspicious about a special alliance developing between two tribemates. These two suspected tribemates are on which tribe?
Ulong
Koror
One of each
Inconclusive or clue is incorrect

According to CBS, while enjoying a feast, a tribe notices one member's reclusive behaviouir. Who is the recluse?

list of cast

Who will be eliminated?
list of cast

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63. "RE: Ep 2 game up! Questions here."
LAST EDITED ON 02-19-05 AT 09:14 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 02-19-05 AT 09:04 PM (EST)

OK, Biancaxxx, I'm ready!

1.Will they manage to retrieve the box?
2.Yes,
3. Which tribe will win reward?
4. Who will sit out for Koror?
5. What is the reward for the RC?

6. Which will win the IC?
7. Who will sit out the IC?
8. What tribe is someone suspicious of an alliance of 2? Ulong

9. Who is the recluse: I think it will be
10. Who will be eliminated: Jeff

That's what I'm thinking now, what do you think????

Anyone that wants to speculate/talk about it, email me! or pm me!

fp

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64. "RE: Ep 2 game up! Questions here."
LAST EDITED ON 02-19-05 AT 09:16 PM (EST)

I'm still working on my answers, but I agree with most of yours so far!

With the first question, do you think seeing as though Ian is holding a rope, he will try and tie it around the whole box and lift it up?

For the RC I think it will just be the fishing/hunting gear, because according to the challenge board, it doesn't mention food.

Do you think CBS were misleading us by showing Angie as the "outcast" in the promos? I'm interested as why you think Janu will be reclusive.

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65. "RE: Ep 2 game up! Questions here."
LAST EDITED ON 02-19-05 AT 09:33 PM (EST)

Biancaxxx,
I think he will only untie the flint inside the box and bring that up.

I think it is Janu because this survivor is at a Feast! And we are speculating that Koror wins Reward and catches fish (with the snorkle, mask & Hawaian Sling); retrieves fire and thereby has a feast... and Angie is on the OTHER tribe. Your thoughts?


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67. "RE: Ep 2 game up! Questions here."
Oops! I totally forgot about the recluse being at the feast lol, so thanks for reminding me.
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66. "RE: Ep 2 game up! Questions here."
LAST EDITED ON 02-19-05 AT 10:18 PM (EST)

First off Bianca, you finished alot higher than I did on the game ep 1, so I am really interested in your answers....but...

I was thinking the same thing, I answered no, but he'll take some thing out of it, but I am wondering if he'll open it and then take just the box and the flint while getting rid of the weight?

2.I think all that they will get will be the fishing/hunting gear thanx to your spoiler pics of the challenges...

3.I think that Koror will win the gear and thus go fishing and supply their own feast, so the outcast has to be someone at Koror....who is the most outcast on that tribe, I think Janu perhaps OR JENN, who do you think?


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68. "RE: Ep 2 game up! Questions here."
Well, the only reason I did so well, was because I voted early, and received 22 bonus points ;) I still got one answer wrong though, because I was confused about the "days" and how they would be edited. (This doesn't matter now, but I was told that the tribes and walk with jeff, happened Day 3. However, CBS edited it all to look like Day 2.)

Good question. It would make sense to get rid of the weight but to keep the box. The box itself could come into use for them later on so they may want to salvage that aswell as just the flint. To bring the rope, Ian must of had a plan. But who knows if the rope is successful.

I forgot about the recluse being on the "feast" tribe. Jenn seems rather quite from what we have seen so far. I think Gregg could come to her rescue though, he let her wear his shirt remember? Janu could be freaked out about the rats, and become depressed/reclusive. Caryn hates the island, might miss her children? Someone always has a little emotional breakdown about missing family, early on.

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69. "Email addresses"
Hi guys,
I have information on the "sit-outs", please give me your email addresses so that I can send out a mass email to the team. Scarlett is right, we need a form of communitication for the team other than just the boards.

here are my details:
email: bianca_e@hotmail.com
aim: babybiancax
yahoo: bianca_xo

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71. "30 Points for Ashlee"
Using Snewser's questions and the point values he assigns is a clue we need to pay attention to.

Snewser assigned an unusually high 30 points to the boot this week...an indication that he knew very few would get it correct based on the direction the spoiling and spec was going.

Wonder if anyone was paying attention...


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72. "RE: 30 Points for Ashlee"
Damn it! I put Ashlee at the beginning, then got swayed from my gut call.


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73. "RE: 30 Points for Ashlee"
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74. "RE: 30 Points for Ashlee"
I think you're going to be the team star this week
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75. "RE: "Jump the Shark" : Spoiling Tool"
Shhh! Krautboy. I thought I knew all the secrets about Snewser!

Good work as always.
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76. "EP3: Spoiling Tool"
This week Snewser's questions and point weighting may once again be giving us some clues about what to expect in EP3...

11.Who will be the first person to drop out of the Immunity Challenge? 5

12. Will anyone quit the game without being voted out in this episode? 15

13. Will any of the castaways switch tribes from Koror to Ulong or Ulong to Koror in this episode? 15

14. Who will receive the second most votes or win a tie breaker at Tribal Council? 5

15. Who will be eliminated? 30

Total Points: 150


This series of questions seems to tell us that there is something significant about the first person to drop out of the game. It's only worth 5 points so the answer is fairly obvious. Jeff, because of his injury will probably be the first.

Will anyone quit the game? The Mersaydeez Spolier says "Jeff get hurt and quits". If we take it literally we might say yes, but Snewser has assigned 15 points to this question, so he probably knows that the answer is really NO.

Jeff does get hurt and "quits" the IC, when he is first to drop out of the IC, but he probably stays in the game.

Snewser also includes a question asking who gets the second most votes at TC; a pretty good indication that there will actually be a vote, rather than Jeff just quiting.

Snewser also asks about the "switch", which is asbsent from the promos, but a topic of discussion because of the Storyboard Chart Spoiler. Again, the obvious answer might be YES, but Snewser has 15 points assigned to this question. The obvious answer is probably not correct. If there were actually going to be a switch, Snewser would probably have asked, "Who gets switched?, or "How many people get switched? Loks like there's no switch this week.

In terms of who's eliminated, Snewser has 30 points assigned to this question, but it's a 150 point week. The bootee is only worth 20 % this week, compared to 30% of the points last week...an indication that this weeks boot is probaly much more predictable this week.



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77. "RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool"
LAST EDITED ON 02-27-05 AT 09:24 PM (EST)

Interesting that he also mentions a tie. I wonder if all this chat about a tie actually pans out this season.

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78. "RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool"
What about who sits out for koror at IC...I think Caryn and WIllard at rc so it's either Katie and Janu or none of the above...


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79. "RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool"
Excellent analysis again Krautboy.

Of course, Snewser could be reading this thread and doing the OPPOSITE of what we think to screw us up. Hahaha.

I think the switch is a significant event because it will tell us if the storyboard is 100% correct or not. Perhaps it's another Thailand (switch if you want) twist. Probst talked about choices this season, so that might fit with that type of twist.

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80. "RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool"
Once again, an excellent analysis, KB! Well done. Your sense of logic is right on! Thank you.


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81. "RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool"
If Snewser asks a question about a tie at tribal council, does it mean there was an even number of people there. Currently we have 9 Koror and 7 Ulong. So either Jeff quits and only 6 go to TC, or the vote is split 3 ways (3,3,1). He left it open with the "2nd most votes part" but why include the tie breaker portion when there is an odd number on both tribes. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but thought I'd throw it out there.
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82. "RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool"
Thought I'd add that Katie sat out the IC challenge last time (I think, I only watch the show once). Therefore she can not sit out the next RC, yet she is listed in 3 of the pairs of non-particpants. There are really only 2 choices there 'Caryn&Willard', or 'Some Other Pair'. 'None of the above' doesn't make sense unless 2 don't sit out.
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83. "RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool"
I think Katie can sit out because they go by 3 day "cycles", so as long as she hasn't sat out of anything within the 3 days it's fine.
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84. "RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool"
I think Bianca is right and Katie can sit out the RC. If you look at the caps of who is sitting with Caryn they are wearing light colored shoes. Katie and Coby both have light colored tennis shoes but Coby is so much taller than Caryn so that it can't be him sitting beside her. Even tho Willard is closer to her height his shoes are black so that eliminates him. Everyone else on Koror is acounted for so that leaves only Katie.

As for the girl standing on the beach in the black tank and underwear, I think I have figured that out as well. I think it is Kim in Jolanda's tank top. I found a pic of Ashlee wearing it and Jo was not wearing it at tribal. I think she left it behind.
Here is a pic that shows most everyone's clothes and shoes.

Please if you think I am wrong tell me why.

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85. "Katie competing?"

Katie appears to be competing in the RC.
I think we see her standing waiting to compete (upper left cornerof the frame) as Jennifer and Steph run into the water. She’s wearing the same black top we see in the confessional vidcap.



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89. "RE: Katie competing?"
I agree Katie is competing in the RC. That has to be her in the black tank and undies, as she is in the middle of the Koror group, and that person is much too chunky to be Kim.

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86. "RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool"
LAST EDITED ON 02-28-05 AT 11:05 AM (EST)

Logic, Bianca is correct, Katie can in fact sit out the RC, because it's a new 3 day cycle. It has been done in the past. Basically the rule only applies to the same episode, if you sit out RC, you cannot sit out IC also.

Edited to correct my typo.

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87. "RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool"
This is interesting. To me it seems more likely there would be a 3-2-2 vote (three for Kim or Jeff; 2 for the other one; and 2 for whomever Jeff and Kim vote for); or a 4-1-2 vote (four for Kim or Jeff; 1 for the other one; and 2 for whomever Jeff and Kim vote for).

But a 3-3-1 vote is possible. Whoever Kim and Jeff vote for should be the person with the second most votes, or the tie-breaker winner. Angie, maybe? If there is a 3-3-1 vote initially, someone else besides Jeff and Kim has to vote for Angie. Bobby Jon, maybe? Then let's say Stephenie, James, and Angie vote for Jeff, and Ibrehem votes for Kim. There is a 3-3 tie between Jeff and Angie. Before they go to the purple rock, Ibrehem switches his vote to Jeff, and Jeff is out.

It could go down that way.


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88. "RE: EP3: Spoiling Tool"
LAST EDITED ON 02-28-05 AT 11:34 AM (EST)

Yes, a tie is a possibility, given the scenario you put forth.

In terms of "spoiling the spoiler" by analyzing the questions, there's nothing unusual in how Snewser phrased the question or the choices. In past seasons, Snewser has always phrased it in the same way..."Who will receive the second most votes or win a tie breaker at Tribal Council?"...including a tiebreaker scenario as a possibility...so nothing out of the ordinary there.


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106. "Also..."
the "second highest vote-getter/tie-breaker" question only has a 5 point value. Using your logic above (which I totally agree with, btw) we shouldn't place too much effort on a potential tie. Not to mention that any tie at the E3 TC would be the result of a 3rd vote-getter, and would be resolved in a re-vote, not a tie-breaker, such as the PROD or some other competition.

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90. "Why on earth????"
Lets throw out the spoilers we have heard and just try to use logic for a moment pertaining to this weeks boot:

If Ulong loses the immunity challenge, why would they choose to vote out Jeff? He is young, he is strong, he does well in challenges (except rowing the outrigger) he has shown a propensity and a desire to go out fishing and provide the tribe with food, he does not seem like he is that hard to get along with at camp, he has a good disposition.

If he does get hurt so that he can't compete in the immunity challenge, is that enough reason to want to boot him?

Kimberly has been shown to be lazy, she sucks at challenges, she is doing nothing but sucking face with Jeff, in short as James says "she has nothing going for her but her sexuality".

The only way that Jeff gets voted out is if he asks to be voted out, and in that event would they listen? Deena's alliance didn't vote Shawna out when she was sick and wanted to be voted out.

Bobby Jon would most likely balk at voting for Jeff since he wants to keep the strength, BJ would vote for Kim. James would vote for Kim, he thinks she is useless. Iby would vote for Kim, but might vote Jeff. Angie would vote Kim or Jeff. Kim would vote Angie (no way she votes for Jeff). Jeff would vote Angie (he can't vote for himself and wouldn't vote for Kim), Stephanie would abide and vote Jeff.

Are we sure that Ulong loses the IC? The vidcaps don't show us much. We have a conflict between Caryn and Katie thrown at us, misdirection for the boot? Shouldn't we be considering a Koror loss and would be booted if that happens?


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91. "RE: Why on earth????"
Right on, KObrien! I think it's a good idea to look at all the boot possibilities, too.

If Koror loses, I see Willard as likely to get booted and not Caryn, despite her outburst, which does seem like misdirection to me. Willard does not appear to be in anyone's alliance, while Caryn appears to have a few supporters like Coby and Tom.

However, I do think Ulong loses the IC because of Jeff's injury. I am not convinced that he is the boot, however. My gut feeling is the injury is something that will get better and they'll see Jeff as more valuable than Kim. I think we could see Kim getting the boot.

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92. "RE: Why on earth????"
It would also make more sense for Jeff to quit the episode AFTER his sweety gets booted. He is lost without her, he is still injured as it keeps getting aggravated. He throws a hissy fit and then pulls an Osten. Now that I would believe. I just don't see him going this week.


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95. "RE: Why on earth????"
FWIW, CMC seems to think Mersaydeez has mixed-up info, and that what Jeff quits is the challenge, but not necessarily the show. Jeff hasn't exhibited anything of a quitter mentality so far, and Kim should easily be in the crosshairs for Ulong's next TC.


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96. "RE: Why on earth????"
I agree BR, that is IF Jeff is an actual quitter.


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99. "RE: Why on earth????"
Here's the post to which I think you're referring:

"Mersaydeez, does he quit a challenge or the whole game? I already gave you the game quitter before she quit and it was left on the cutting room floor: Ashlee, which she talked about the next day in her interviews. I don't think Jeff quits the game, he quits the challenge. The rules say he can. But look for him to make a bonehead move in the process.

Sounds like he does something stupid...it either puts the target on his back or cause Ulong to lose, or both?



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101. "RE: Why on earth????"
>
>If Koror loses, I see Willard
>as likely to get booted
>and not Caryn, despite her
>outburst, which does seem like
>misdirection to me. Willard does
>not appear to be in
>anyone's alliance, while Caryn appears
>to have a few supporters
>like Coby and Tom.


Willard has seemed the closest to Caryn. She is the one that picked him last. He seems to appreciate her for that and we often see him hugging her. So if his only alliance is with the person that has an outburst. I think Willard is in trouble. He is slow and does hold them back. Unlike Scout last season, he does not seem to be a person the others look to for advice.

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93. "RE: Why on earth????"

>Are we sure that Ulong loses
>the IC? The vidcaps
>don't show us much.
>We have a conflict between
>Caryn and Katie thrown at
>us, misdirection for the boot?
> Shouldn't we be considering
>a Koror loss and would
>be booted if that happens?

The title of EP3 is "Dangerous Creatures and Horrible Setbacks". The promo for this week seems to identify Ulong as the tribe that faces a "setback"...

"Ulong faces a setback.
Jeff: "I can barely put any weight on it right now."

The setback wouldn't become "horrible" if they finally ended up avoiding TC for the first time...

I'm convinced Ulong goes to TC.


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94. "RE: Why on earth????"
OK, but why a Jeff boot instead of Kimberly?


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98. "RE: Why on earth????"
I suspect that will be the main topic of discussion this week...


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105. "Devil's Advocate"
Since you're asking for a scenario where Jeff would get booted over Kim...

What if Kim rallies, a la Angie in E2? Angie was in the crosshairs in E1, and the primary focus was her poor IC performance. So what did she do? She went out and proved herself in the very next challenge.

What if Kim does the same? She knows she was a target for at least half the tribe in E2, and likely would've been booted had Ashlee not given up. She has to know her every move is being scrutinized.

Likewise, the promos for E2 put Angie in a very vulnerable light. She was quoted saying something to the effect of "I'm on the chopping block". This week, we have James talking about Kim's only use being her sexuality. It very well could be another typical MB red herring. James's comment, like Angie's in E2, is likely post-TC (but pre-RC) day-after kind of stuff. He's probably disappointed in Ashlee and disappointed that Kim's still around. Maybe she pulls it together.

Besides, if Jeff out-and-out quits on a challenge, it won't sit well with this group, especially if they think he's dogging it. They very easily could turn on him, especially if he goes Osten and starts whining about his plight. Would you want to keep around a guy whose morale is dead? Morgan kept Osten around, much to their own detriment.

I'm still on the fence, myself, as to who's going in E3. Both Kim and Jeff have too high a visibility for my liking. I'm just offering a scenario where the tribe votes Jeff out before Kim.

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97. "Spoiling the Spoiler"
What should we make of this comment from Snewser in the Mersaydeez spoiler thread over at SSucks?

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Re: Just some spoilers...

It's funny how when somebody will be voted off in the near future, they're sometimes edited to look safe. Other times, they edit in the reasons why and it looked obvious the whole time. I think MB's trade secret is that he flips a coin to decide whether the editing will be obvious or surprising. Then because it's completely random, you can never guess what's going to happen based on editing patterns that might otherwise be picked up by the neural networks in your brain after 10 seasons. If they could only keep the results secret we would all be wondering tho perhaps not caring.

I read this as a commentary on last week's boot versus this week's boot: Ashlee was edited to look safe, while this week MB edited in the reasons for Jeff's boot and "it looked obvious the whole time".

He also suggests that "they can't keep the results secret", because he continues to get reliable source information...



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100. "RE: Spoiling the Spoiler"
Well, at the very least, I always sense a kind of ebb and flow in the editing. MB never (or very rarely) has two non-entities get booted in a row. That would mitigate against a Kim boot this week. Jeff's presence, on the other hand, was revved up last week, making him a better candidate, for "contrast" purposes.

Also, the remark from James that "all (Kim) has going for her is her sexuality" seems like a pretty standard red herring attempt to me.


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102. "New post from Snewser at Blows"
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One of my problems is that I can't keep track of what people are actually claiming. Is Merseydeez saying that Jeff definitely goes this week? Who is saying Jeff definitely goes? Anyone?

When Jeff "quits", does that mean he leaves the game? He spirit is resigned? Or he basically collapses in a challenge?

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(ETA: for the record, Mersaydeez has not said that Jeff is definitely going this week, and neither has anyone else as far as I know.)


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103. "RE: New post from Snewser at Blows"
Mersaydeez is saying that Jeff gets hurt and quits...but not this week, right?

From the previews, I think we can safely say that Jeff does get hurt in this week's show. However, if Mersaydeez is right he (Jeff) could quit later on in the game, I guess.

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104. "RE: New post from Snewser at Blows"
mersaydeez hasn't specified when jeff quits, or what "quits" by her source means.

i know he is first Ulong out of the IC, so that would suggest he quits the challenge, but could still quit or secretly ask to be voted out.

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107. "RE: New post from Snewser at Blows"
I think we're overthinking, folks. That's the exact thing that made my change my Ashlee pick that I had made the moment that the game opened up. I ignored logic to try and make it fit the spoilers.

Kim is a far more logical pick than Jeff to be voted out.

- Your team loses three straight immunity challenges. Which vote is less likely to damage your team in the long run - the injured strong male who puts everything he has in challenges, or the weak female who doesn't work as hard as the others?

- Your team loses three straight immunity challenges. From a strategic standpoint, which vote makes more sense if you're trying to break up a couple?
a. James, BJ, Ibe - There's a 4-3 gender split, male to female. Do you give up this advantage?
b. Angie, Steph - You have an alliance with James and BJ, and the four of you considered voting Kim off last episode. Why not keep this alliance strong? Besides, if you can rally and start to win some IC's, you're still in the majority alliance in your tribe. There's still hope to be in the dominant alliance post-merge.

- Kim had a noticeable spike in face time last episode, which is consistent with imminent boot editing.

I think we're trying to fit the "Jeff quits" spoiler and the rumored "voting off strength" (which has already been proven wrong twice) into a "voting off Jeff" scenario.
And it's not a comfortable fit.



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108. "More from CMC"
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To set the record straight, I've never ever made any F2 predictions. If you'll check, I've never made any end game predictions, other than to agree with mersaydeez that Ulong gets stomped

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Do either of you have a "boot" spoiler for this episode?
(enough with the quitting already).
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Nope. But when Jeff bags it because he's hurt, (and gives his rice bag to a woman maybe - which is maybe why Ulong gets hurt in the deal), maybe the team decides he's useless hurt or not and votes his sorry ##### out.

If I'm wrong, I'll be absolutely 100% clearly wrong - no hedging my bets saying it could mean both things. Quitting the challenge means quitting the challenge. Quitting the game means quitting the game. One does not sort of maybe could be is almost like is just the same as the other.*cough* mersaydeez *cough* If Jeff quits *the game*, I will earn the flames and take my lumps.


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I could be wrong but I don't recall CMC agreeing that Ulong gets stomped before.

Both Bianca and CMC seem pretty positive Jeff is going to drop out of the challenge (Bianca says he's the first to drop out).



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109. "RE: More from CMC"
>
>I don't recall CMC agreeing that
>Ulong gets stomped before.
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"callmecrazeeRegistered User(2/20/05 2:22 am)Reply ezSupporter Re: Believe it or not people, Ulong gets stomped. Its creaky old brains over youthful brawn this season."


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110. "Spoiling the Spoiler: The Shark?"
There has been a considerable amount of time spent discussing whether Tom and Ian kill the shark and whether it's bleeding or not...

Let's see what clues Snewser's Jump the Shark game can contribute:

Snewser asks: "Will any sharks be killed in this episode?"

Does Snewser know that a shark will be killed, but not until some future episode when Tom has his machete with him?

We'll have to wait and see...


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111. "Congrats Snewserkickers!"
SBlows was well represented in the Jump the Shark game this week...our home team, the Snewserkickers, finished in first place!

Well done, and thanks to all those on the sidelines who contribute their ideas as well...a great team effort by all the SBlows Spoilers!



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112. "RE: Congrats Snewserkickers!"
Congrats Krautboy - Number 1 Overall. Well Done! Well Done!

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113. "RE: Congrats Snewserkickers!"
We did great! You did exceptionaly great KB! Number 1 overall!

Congrats also to KObrian_fan and Corvis for coming in 3rd and 4th this week!

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114. "RE: Congrats Snewserkickers!"
Way to go Krautboy, KOfan, and Corvis....and all of the Snewserkickers! You all rocked! We are gaining!


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115. "RE: Congrats Snewserkickers!"
Way to go team. Fantastic job KB. Looks like we are starting a roll. Lets keep it up and continue our way to the top of the list.RedBeard
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117. "Sig pic size..."

Please note that our Community Guidelines specify certain restrictions on the use of sig pics:



This optional single line of text is either regular size, or size "1", but NO LARGER...

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118. "RE: Sig pic size..."
Sorry will resize. Redbeard
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116. "RE: Congrats Snewserkickers!"
Way to go KB, and way to go team! And thanks for all the insights, you know who you are


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121. "RE: Congrats Snewserkickers!"
Hopefully we can keep this up, and get to number 1! (well at least hopefully 3 next week lol)

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119. "RE: Congrats Snewserkickers!"
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I don't understand about the machete. Wasn't that a machete they killed the snakes with?
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Edited to clarify this statement in response to biancaxxx reprimand. You are right biancaxxx in that the quote I posted had nothing to do with my question. Also, it's probably in the wrong thread. I have erased the quote I originally had here. The comment Krautboy made that I should have quoted is this:

"Does Snewser know that a shark will be killed, but not until some future episode when Tom has his machete with him?"

I have read several comments made by several posters indicating that the shark was killed by a machete and that Koror didn't have their machete. I just didn't understand all those comments because I thought that was a machete they used to kill the snakes.

I obviously picked the wrong time and place to discuss it, and came off being very snappy. I'm apologize.

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120. "RE: Congrats Snewserkickers!"
Why are you wondering about a machete?
That wasn't one of the questions..
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149. "RE: Congrats Snewserkickers!"
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>Why are you wondering about a
>machete?
>That wasn't one of the questions..
>

You are right. It wasn't one of the questions. I have edited my post to better clarify my question. I also recognize I picked the wrong place and wrong time to insert a discussion of the machete and the killing of the shark.

I do, on occasion, make dumb comments at embarassing times. I wish I could say it would never happen again.


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150. "RE: Congrats Snewserkickers!"
Ohhh! I understand now lol
I thought you meant that you thought there was a question about killing snakes...oops.

Sorry if I came across as rude, I didn't mean to at all, I was just confused about the machette lol.

"I do, on occasion, make dumb comments at embarassing times. I wish I could say it would never happen again."

Well we must be twins then! I do it all the time.

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122. "EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
The questions are up for EP4. Snewser didn't give us much to work with this week...

Snewser asks a series of questions about the Sumo Challenge in which he asks "In the first Sumo match between...who wins?"

It appears that Snewser knows that the Sumo Challenge is not a single elimination event. It's probably best two out of three or first team to 10 points, but it's obvious that there are multiple matches between the tribes, during which the contestants meet more than once.

The matches we are shown in the previews appear to favor Ulong, but if they are just a small sample selected from many more match ups, we might speculate that what appears to be a victory for Ulong could easily be misdirection...


The boot question for this carries the same relative point value it did last week; 20% of the total. I wouldn't expect any huge surprises this week, based on the weighting assigned to the question.



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123. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
Oh geez, I have my work cut out for me this week..lol.
I'm not liking these questions.

I don't know how much snewser knows about the sumo IC, however is it also possible that he doesn't know how many rounds there will be, and is saying "first" just to be safe, incase there are multiple rounds. Do you know what I mean? Of course, I could be wrong though.

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124. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
To me it seems so logical that Kimber will be toast. But, many peeps are seriously considering Ulong to win the IC, personally, I just don't see that. I have been speculating how the vidcaps can be so misleading, allowing for a Koror victory. Here's what I came up with.

Perhaps this Sumo challenge is a fight to the last man standing...and whatever tribe is represented by that man, is the winner. So, Caryn vs. Angie, Angie wins, Caryn is out. Next, Janu vs. Kimber, and Kimber wins, so Janu is out. Next up, Gregg vs. Ibe, Ibe wins so Gregg is out. Next up Coby vs. James and Coby wins so James is out. Next is Tom vs. BJ, Tom wins, BJ is out. Steph vs Jen, Steph wins, Jen out. So now we have Angie, Kimber, Ibe, and Steph vs. Coby and Tom. First up, Coby vs Steph, Coby wins, Steph out. Next is Tom vs Ibe, Tom wins, Coby is out. Next is Coby vs Angie, Angie wins and Coby is out. Next is Kimber vs. Tom, Tom wins and Kimber is out. Next is the final round of Angie vs Tom, Tom wins being the last man standing.

Well, it's only an idea! What do you think?



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125. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
Two thumbs up. It plays into the comment BJ made last week about what an awesome player Tom is.
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129. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
I thought of this too. However, I don't think they've ever had a group challenge that came down to simply the strongest individual. It doesn't make sense to do that at a "team" stage of the game, IMHO.
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131. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
They have on at least one occasion - the weight challenge in Pearl Islands. That came down to which person was the last person standing.


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132. "Make it two"
Osten vs. Rupert in the strength competition where each had to keep a teammate from going into the water. The challenge started with all but one teammate holding the rope (the other teammate being in the sling over the water), and at predetermined points, the teammates dropped off one by one.


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134. "RE: Make it two"
Also, the water bucket competition between Colby and Mike Skupin in Ep 3 (I think) of Outback.


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135. "So..."
I think it's safe to say that a tribe immunity challenge coming down to individual strength would not be unprecedented.


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133. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
I like this, though I wouldn't envision some of the same match-ups or same outcomes. And it's not really last man standing, either. It's more the case that the tribe that loses is the tribe that loses all of its people first. In theory, one tribe could win all six of its matches and quickly eliminate the other tribe.

I wonder if Koror was forced to sit two men and one woman so that they could start off on equal footing?


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136. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
I think it's highly likely that all matchups in this challenge will be gender-based. So I don't expect to see any male/female battles. That is probably why Koror appears to be sitting out 2 men (Ian, Willard) and only one woman (Katie). Each side looks to be putting up teams of 3 men/3 women (now, what would have happened if Ulong was even more lopsided gender-wise than they are is up for speculation).

My thinking is that we have either "first to 'x' points", that requires more than the 6 rounds (at least) that we've seen in the promos, or if after 6 rounds they're tied and have to go to a tiebreaker.

Things that need to be considered:
1. What constitutes a "win"? Is each battle 1 point? Or is it a "best 2 out of 3 falls"?
2. Is it "first to 'x' points"? Or a set number of rounds?
3. If a tiebreaker becomes necessary, how are the competitors determined? Does each tribe get to designate its "champion"? Or as often happened in past challenges, does each tribe get to select the person from the opposite tribe, hoping to find the weak link?

My thinking is that it's a "first to 'x' points" structure, and whatever the number is, it takes more than one time through the lineup to reach it, since we see snippets of all 6 pairings on the platform.

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138. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
LAST EDITED ON 03-07-05 AT 11:29 PM (EST)

FWIW, When the question is phrased "the first match between whoever and whoeverelse" the first thing I thought of was the 2 of 3 scenario. First, that is more of a combat type situation (We've been trying to read in the War theme. right?) and Second, that would allow a reasonable scenario for Koror to win IC even though the most of the matches we are shown seem to show Ulong winning. Ibe and BJ seem to win their matches, but it's well within reason that they just win one match and that Tom and gregg come back to win two (Note the wound on Tom, He looks to me like he was a tough opponent).

I'll admit that the time factor weighs against this, even with stingy editing, that's at least 14 (probably 15-16) matches they have to fit in.


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143. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
"My thinking is that it's a "first to 'x' points" structure, and whatever the number is, it takes more than one time through the lineup to reach it"

I think so too

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146. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
Yeah. Most likely you're right. And the first to ever-how-many points is a format MB seems to favor. Makes the scenario for a Koror win seem to be less likely since Ulong appears to be mopping up, but that could easily be misdirection editing.

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147. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
It is misdirection.

It's going to be a close game, i can garuantee you that.

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139. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
I really like that idea! This could be another "first" for this season! Sure, it could be harsh, pitting male/against female, but they gotta do that anyway because of the tribe gender imbalance in the first place. So this would not be so outrageous.

Along these lines, (I may have missed this is someone else said it already), what if the "leader" picked in RC has to also match up the players for IC?

And lastly, FP, you did great in nailing the challenges in Season 9. I'm not technical enough to do this, but what really helped me in addition to your getting the pics in order for those challenges was the breakout threads of what pics belonged to the RC and what pics belonged to the IC. I hope you or someone savvy enough to do that will do it for this season. It really helped in nailing down the misorder of the pics, and the reused pics for me.

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161. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
Why thank-you LookeeLoo! Much appreciated. I will most certainly try to unscramble the vidcaps as they arrive. This year it seems as though CBS and EPMB are being a bit stingy with the caps! This week, ep 5, we only have one big reward challenge to analyze. That Sylvester, the Cat, along with Bobscure, are incredible with doctoring our caps! It really is wonderful having so many peeps here that are into making some sense of things! I look forward to seeing your 2 cents in the threads as well.


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126. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
Bianca I think one thing that will help determine the order is to look at the amout of water on the platform. I noticed it was just about dry on one (Angie vs Caryn?) but very wet on Tom vs BJ.
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127. "Wet and Dry"
With Snewers questions about rounds I decided to see if I could find any hints in the caps that would help determine different rounds. What I found was in some caps there were differences in how wet or dry the opponents were. I noted differences only once for each sequence of caps. The numbers are how many different times I found the person wet or wetter. Keeping in mind that the different sequences could be during the same round. But if someone is soaked even once that would mean they lost at least once. BTW I did find caps of just about everyone with their hair dry so wet hair and soaked clothing is what I used to score by.

James 2 ..1 wet hair, 1 soaking wet clothes
vs
Coby maybe 1..hair and a few drops of water on skin

Angie 0
vs both dry in all caps Note Angie never looks wet
Caryn 0

Ibr 3...1 wet clothes, 1 soaked clothes, 1 splashing water
vs
Gregg 1...wet hair

Steph 1...wet hair and glistening skin
vs
Jenn 2...wet hair, going over the edge

Kim 0
vs both dry in all caps
Janu 0

BJ 0
vs
Tom maybe 1 (I can't really tell if his hair is just messed up or wet in the close ups on him)

Thats what I found maybe its something we can work with.

*I used Phoenix's update caps THANKS PHOENIX*

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128. "RE: Wet and Dry"
Deb, I may be missing something (not at all unusual, lol), but don't they have to swim out to the platform? Therefore, everyone gets wet before they compete?

The platform has to be in deep enough water so that they don't get badly injured when they fall off in the water.

Please call me Cat!!
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130. "RE: Wet and Dry"
Cat, I thought that too until I realized that ther are pics of just about everyone on the platform with their hair dry. So most of my observations are based on hair wet that is also seen dry and clothes being soaking wet. Example there is one set of Ibh with wet shorts but there is another with them soaking wet. That would tell us there he competes for a while. If they are soaked from the swim out, he stays on the platform long enough to get partially dry or he just got out of the water from being knocked in. The people with hair are easier. Hair is dry in some caps wet in others. Those are the ones that really tell a tale.
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137. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
>Snewser didn't give us much to work with this week...

There's one gimme...the sit-outs for the IC.

Since Snewser spells out for us which 6 Koror compete in the sumo matches, it's obvious that the three he doesn't mention - Katie, Ian, and Willard - sit out.

I know there's speculation on the vidcaps suggesting this, but I'm just saying that Snewser's questions confirm that combination.



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140. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
whats the difference between "some other trio" and "none of the above answers is correct"??

ian isn't on there, so would I say some other trio....or none of the above lol

im confused!

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141. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
Some other trio would indicate that the answer is 3 people that aren't listed in the groups above.

In order to have "none of the above answers is correct" be the answer, it would be a group of 2 or a group of 4, for example.


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142. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
thanks, I had a blonde moment lol ;)
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144. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
In some challenges in the past, no members would sit out...some would have to go more than once on the team with less members. It seems that "Some other trio" is most likely the answer for both "sit out" questions.

If Willard, Katie and Ian sit out the IC, and Jenn and Janu sat out the last IC, none of them would be eligible to sit out the RC
which would mean some combination of Gregg, Tom, Caryn and Coby would have to sit out at the RC which don't match any of the choices.

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145. "RE: EP4: Spoiling the Spoiler"
It doesn't matter who sat out the last IC..they only go in 3 day cycles.
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148. "Callout to Beebs & Scarlett!"
I sent out the email again, did you get it?
Make sure you check your junk mail/spam folder, the emails might be going in there...
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151. "RE: Callout to Beebs & Scarlett!"
I got both.
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152. "Snewserkickers #2!!!"
Congrats everyone! Snewserkickers ranked #2 this week as well as #2 overall.
What an excellent result! We have 3 SK's in the Top 5!
I'm proud to be a Snewserkicker
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153. "RE: Snewserkickers #2!!!"
You are our leader Bianca, great work as always!


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154. "RE: Snewserkickers #2!!!"
Way to go team. Lets see if we can get to the top of the leaderboard next week.It's an honor to be a member of this team.RedBeard
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155. "RE: Snewserkickers #2!!!"
Congrats to you all!!! You really deserve it. Wish I had joined you but my own fault, I didn't realize earlier that you could belong to more than one team.

I personally moved up about 85 places

Deb~

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169. "RE: Snewserkickers #2!!!"
You go guys! Congrats! Thanks to your brillant spoiling I personally went up by 103 places this week (I started on week 3, so I have quite some ways to catch up!) but all I know is that I owe it all to you!

Snewserkickers rule!

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156. "RE: Snewserkickers #2!!!"
Go Snewserkickers!
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157. "RE: Snewserkickers #2!!!"
LAST EDITED ON 03-11-05 AT 10:38 AM (EST)

Thanks for all your great insights Bianca!

Hope you spend more time over here at SBlows where the spoiling is good, the people are nice, and you are loved!

Not to mention that everyone at SBlows speaks Australian...even the Germans!


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159. "RE: Snewserkickers #2!!!"
Thanks KB!

I love everyone here, you're all extremely nice to me, which is refreshing to see.

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160. "RE: Snewserkickers #2!!!"
And we have been know to partake in a little Foster's once or twice in our lives.RedBeard
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162. "RE: Snewserkickers #2!!!"
I have to jump on this bandwagon with a big shout out for the Snewserkickers too! Way to go!!!! Also, Bianca, we are thrilled to have you over here and most appreciative of your guidance with the game! We are always game for any nugget to chew on!




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158. "RE: Snewserkickers #2!!!"
Awesome performance, Bianca & team!


Close but no car...

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163. "Ep5 Questions Up!"
LAST EDITED ON 03-14-05 AT 00:22 AM (EST)

The ep 5 questions are up everyone, get voting!

Remember, the show is on Wednesday this week, so we don't have much time!!

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164. "RE: Ep5 Questions Up!"
Lots of "swapping" questions. Or at least 2 questions about swapping...and then 4 questions about who will vote for whom with lots of choices.

Is he hinting at a switch? Or is he trying to trap people?


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165. "RE: Ep5 Questions Up!"
Tribe: TDT also makes reference to one tribe possibly "stealing a member of the other tribe, essentially granting that person immunity for an episode:
http://truedorktimes.com/survivor_palau/spoilers/

It may be that Snewser and TDT are talking about the same thing...


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166. "RE: Ep5 Questions Up!"
If we are going to use this as a spoiling tool, can someone please post this week's questions. Not everyone here is playing Snewser's game.

Thanks.


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167. "Ep5 Questions"
LAST EDITED ON 03-14-05 AT 11:16 AM (EST)

Here ya go, BR:

1. How many full days will this episode cover?
One, Two, Three, None of the above or inconclusive

2. According to CBS, "one castaway neglects fire duty and dozes off, and a tribemate becomes bitter having to lose valuable sleep to pick up the slack." Which tribe are they talking about?

3. Which castaway will doze off during fire duty?
Angie, Bobby Jon, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, Ian, Ibrehem, James, Janu, Jenn, Katie, Stephenie, Tom, Willard, None of the above or inconclusive

4. Who will become bitter at having to lose sleep?
Angie, Bobby Jon, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, Ian, Ibrehem, James, Janu, Jenn, Katie, Stephenie, Tom, Willard, None of the above or inconclusive

5. What best describes the challenge(s) in this episode?
Both Reward and Immunity Challenges on separate days, Reward and Immunity Challenges on the same day but completely separate, One 'Super Challenge' in different stages involving both Reward and Immunity, Only a Reward Challenge, None of the above is correct

6. What type of Immunity will be offered in this episode?
Tribal Immunity, Individual Immunity for a single person, Individual Immunities for more than one person, No type of Immunity is offered, None of the above is correct or inconclusive

7. What is the complete list of Koror members who will compete in the Reward Challenge?
Caryn Coby Ian Tom, Coby Gregg Janu Tom, Coby Ian Jenn Tom, Ian Katie Tom Willard, Coby Jenn Katie Tom, Some other quartet, All Koror members will compete, None of the above answers is correct

8. Which tribe will win thre reward challenge?
Koror, Ulong, none of the above

9. According to CBS, one tribe is taunted and tormented as they have to sit and watch the other tribe enjoy a great reward right in front of them. What is the specific reward they are referring to?
Food, They get to loot the other tribe's camp, They get to take someone from the other tribe, Something involving voting for the other tribe at TC, None of the above or inconclusive

10. What best describes what will take place at Tribal Council(s) at the TC location we have already seen in past episodes?
Both tribes are present at the same TC - Only members from one tribe vote, Both tribes are present at the same TC - Members from both tribes vote, Two separate TC's take place; separated by tribe, One tribal TC takes place, One TC takes place involving everyone; tribes no longer exist, One or more person will be eliminated but it will not happen at TC, None of the above answers is correct or inconclusive

11. Which player from Koror will end up switching to Ulong in this episode?
Caryn only, Coby only, Gregg only, Ian only, Janu only, Jenn only, Katie only, Tom only, Willard only, More than one person will switch, None of the above answers is correct

12. Which player from Ulong will end up switching to Koror in this episode?
Angie only, Bobby only, Ibrehem only, James only, More than one person will switch, None of the above answers (or g.) is correct, Stephanie (oops. choice initially missing. added later)

13. Who will Angie vote against at Tribal Council? (first vote if more than one)
Angie, Bobby, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, Ibrehem, James, Janu, Jennifer, Katie, Stephanie, Tom, Willard, None of the above

14. Who will Stephanie vote against at Tribal Council (first vote if more than one)
Angie, Bobby, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, Ibrehem, James, Janu, Jennifer, Katie, Stephanie, Tom, Willard, None of the above

15. Who will Janu vote against at Tribal Council (first vote if more than one)
Angie, Bobby, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, Ibrehem, James, Janu, Jennifer, Katie, Stephanie, Tom, Willard, None of the above

16. Who will Ian vote against at Tribal Council? (first vote if more than one)
Angie, Bobby, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, Ibrehem, James, Janu, Jennifer, Katie, Stephanie, Tom, Willard, None of the above

17. Who from Koror will be eliminated?
Caryn only, Coby, Gregg, Ian, Janu, Jenn, Katie, Tom, Willard, None of the above or more than one

18. Who from Ulong will be eliminated?
Angie, Bobby, Ibrehem, James, Stephanie, None of the above or more than one


Close but no car...

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168. "RE: Ep5 Questions"
Thanks, forehead.


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170. "RE: Ep5 Questions"
Could I suggest a weekly tread of this? It is becoming so long and hard to follow... and as far as I am concerned this is now a must read one so it would be nice to have a new tread with the questions every weeks..

Ok, now I'm butting out...

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171. "RE: Ep5 Questions"
I think it would be a good idea...


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172. "RE: Ep5 Questions"
Also it would be a good idea to put the number of points for each question and the total... I think... since it was said that could be a clue as well...
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