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"Twila v. Julie"
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12-10-04, 11:07 AM (EST)
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"Twila v. Julie"
Did Twila purposely go back into the hut during the IC, delaying Julie and causing her to lose the IC?

Julie had to wait for Twila. Twila came out and saw Julie waiting, then ran back into the hut. She may have just gone back to dump the puzzle back into the box, but she may have done that solely to delay Julie just enough for Eliza to win.

So was it a delaying tactic?


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Twila v. Julie pmspml5 12-10-04 1
 Of course.... emydi 12-10-04 2
   RE: Of course.... PepeLePew13 12-10-04 4
       RE: Of course.... Devious Weasel 12-10-04 5
           RE: Of course.... PepeLePew13 12-10-04 7
               RE: Of course.... Devious Weasel 12-10-04 8
                   RE: Of course.... Devious Weasel 12-10-04 9
                       RE: Of course.... emydi 12-10-04 10
                           RE: Of course.... Devious Weasel 12-10-04 11
                               RE: Of course.... emydi 12-10-04 12
                                   RE: Of course.... Devious Weasel 12-10-04 13
                                       RE: Of course.... emydi 12-10-04 14
                       actually... arturbars 12-10-04 15
                           RE: actually... Devious Weasel 12-10-04 17
       RE: Of course.... emydi 12-10-04 6
 RE: Twila v. Julie JohnMc 12-10-04 3
 RE: Twila v. Julie Loquatrix 12-10-04 16

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pmspml5 3263 desperate attention whore postings
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12-10-04, 11:10 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Twila v. Julie"
I dont think it was on purpose - they were suppose to close the box with the puzzle so the next person had to put it back together again. In the middle of the challenge like that I'd find it hard to believe she was do something like that on purpose.
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12-10-04, 11:12 AM (EST)
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2. "Of course...."
it was Boner...she knew she was gone if Julie won so she did what she did (and had every right to do) to stay in the game...I have no problem with it. Julie wasn't going to vote for Twila in F2 anyway so what did Twila have to lose?



BUT..the fact that EPMB showed it just adds fuel to the "Twila is out at F4" fire though.

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12-10-04, 12:19 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Of course...."
The problem is that Twila had just spent a few moments in the question booth with the curtain closed, so how would she have known that Julie was there?

IMHO, she honestly forgot to put the question away -- but when she saw Julie, she remembered she had to cover up the question and was inspired to go back to slow her down or was perhaps reminded by the cameraman/producer that the question had to be covered up so she went back.



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12-10-04, 12:34 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Of course...."
Yeah, but we didn't see anyone else reminded to go back even though Chris and Eliza kept leaving and leaving the puzzle intact.


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12-10-04, 12:50 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Of course...."
Thanks for clarifying that for me -- I couldn't recall if anyone else had been shown going back and/or leaving a question open.

If it were me in the game, I'd have "forcefully" thrown the thing back so hard that the question pieces went flying onto the ground. Ooops. Let the others pick it up for themselves and waste a few extra seconds. *snicker*



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12-10-04, 12:52 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Of course...."
I think Julie was so close only because Eliza kept leaving the puzzle's together.


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12-10-04, 12:55 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Of course...."
And, having said that, could that have been Eliza's intention?


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12-10-04, 01:18 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Of course...."
Why to help Julie out? so she could go on the "auction" block? Chris would have just replaced Eliza's name..for him E/J are interchangeable...he wants to go to F3 with T and S.

I think it was just in her rush to get the next one, she just ran out as soon as she got the white tusk.



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12-10-04, 02:31 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Of course...."
No, so that if she didn't win, Twila or Scout wouldn't. At that point, she still felt confident in Chris.


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12-10-04, 03:35 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Of course...."
But wouldn't keeping the questions together help Twila and Scout win also?


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12-10-04, 03:44 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Of course...."
There are certainly flaws with the theory.


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12-10-04, 03:57 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Of course...."
LAST EDITED ON 12-10-04 AT 03:58 PM (EST)

As did my Chad getting to F2 theory


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12-10-04, 04:12 PM (EST)
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15. "actually..."
I think Eliza was one of the only ones that made sure to close the puzzle after she was done... I think Twila did it on purpose - if it was Scout or Chris out there waiting she would not go back in to do it...
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12-10-04, 04:23 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: actually..."
Nope - Eliza left every puzzle in tact as she left.


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12-10-04, 12:44 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Of course...."
Pepe, I too think it was only after she came out and saw Julie that she remembered to go back in...she would not have done that if it was Chris or Scout. IMO she would have probably done it too if it was Eliza, but definitely Julie.


I really do think it was shown to make Twila look even more negatively...at least that's what the people I was watching with (not spoilers) thought about Twila after that display

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12-10-04, 12:14 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Twila v. Julie"
You could see it either way. May have been a delay tactic to keep Julie from winning, or may have just been the rule.

(Plus, had she left the puzzle up, that would have made it faster for Julie to solve. Why would she want to do that, regardless?!)

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12-10-04, 04:12 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Twila v. Julie"
The way it played out, for me, was like this:

Twila, in her haste to try to win the challenge, forgets to close the puzzle box. However, seeing another competitor waiting outside the booth is a dramatic reminder of the good sense (if not actual game rule) in closing the puzzle box so as not to give another competitor an advantage.

I think Twila would have behaved exactly the same way no matter which other competitor was standing there. The fact that it was Julie in particular, and the fact that we all knew Julie was on the chopping block, simply leaves us with the impression that Twila's action re: the box lid was that much more deliberate and intentional a Julie-delaying tactic than it actually was.

Of course I have no doubt at all that EPMB would have been delighted that Villain Twila and Chopping Block Julie were the two competitors concerned! I had the impression that several other times, people forgot to close the box lid and forgot also to go back and fix it. Showing us these two particular characters in the act just made for extra-good TV considering the overall game circumstances.

It also underlines that Twila is wily and has her head in the game. Good work on that one, Twila.

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