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If it is Leeann in Ep. 11 and since she has been Ami's right hand,um, man the whole time, then it follows that Ep. 10's boot is Ami and that a big power shift happens at about that time. It also, as you point out, suggests that this week is a fairly standard boot, that is, Lea......or, the big power shift could occur this week if Ami is booted this week, (say if Sarge were to win the IC tomarrow), and then next week Sarge may not win immunity, so they then target him, then on to Leanne. I don't necessarily think that Ami and Leanne have to get booted in back to back episodes....thoughts?
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26. "RE: Snewsah... (and other sites)" |
Immunity. It bought Shii-Ann an extra three days is AllStars.
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10. "RE: Snewsah... (and other sites)" |
"I don't necessarily think that Ami and Leanne have to get booted in back to back episodes....thoughts?"FP, I don't think they have to be booted back to back, but I would think Ami has to get booted before Leann. If they're able to oust Ami in Ep 10, the women's alliance has lost it's leader, at the hands of some of it's members. If Ami was there, she wouldn't allow Leann to be booted. This helps me confirm my vote for Sarge this week. Twila & Julie boot Sarge, next week Ami, week after Leann. You know for some reason if events occur this way, I see the end game clearly. (in my own mind anyway, lol) Here's my predictions for the rest of the game:
9th - Sarge
8th - Ami
7th - Leann
6th - Julie
5th - Eliza
4th - Chad
3rd - Scout
Final 2 - Chris & Twila Never would have thought that was possible in the beginning!   Sylvester (just call me CAT)
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12. "RE: Snewsah... (and other sites)" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-10-04 AT 03:37 PM (EST)Interesting spec. I agree if Leann goes in Ep 11, Ami must go in Ep 10 (if not tomorrow, but I think Sarge goes tomorrow). I'm going to speculate that the women would reunite after Leann's boot though, and Chad or Chris would go next. The other follows if he doesn't win IC. I'm starting to think the "irony" of Ami's story is going to be that a women's alliance does get to the end of the game -- it just doesn't include Ami. 
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13. "RE: Snewsah... (and other sites)" |
Tonight?
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To answer your first question, I don't either, In fact I predict that they do not.
Which brings be to my real reason for responding:
I'm very glad you posted that list Cat. Kudos and way to go. Motivates me to share my vision. (I'll pretend I didn't hear that groan).
I just realized (after reading your post) that I also have a clear vision of the future; I can predict the bootees and the probable winner. I see the whole picture clearly now. And you also have a clear vision. So if you are willing to share your clarity with us, I will too. Even if it is a different vision, at least we are willing to dare the Gods of Vanuatu to strike us dead on the spot if we are wrong. (What, you don't want to go quite that far? OK. Me neither).
This is my vision of how it will go if ICs, medivacs, terrorist attacks, pig breakouts, etc. don't screw it up. My reasoning has been posted elsewhere in these threads so I won't drag it out again;
Episode 9 - Ami is going to run bouncy bouncy bouncy bouncy (enough with the bouncys already!!) down the TC exit steps. And out.
Then - Scout (actually Scout and Leanne are interchangeable on this list. My selection of Scout is just a gentle, friendly, good-natured, finger in the eye of Snewser).
Then - Sarge
Then - Chad
Then - Chris
Then - Leanne (Snews will just have to get over it and adjust).
Then the endurance IC won by Julie (a no-brainer deduction here beween Jul, Eliza, and Twilla, right?).
Julie picks Eliza cause every one hates Eliza (56 lbs by now, all skull and eyeballs, no butt at all) so Twilla makes F3 but is the last evictee.
AND JULIE WINS, she is picked by a seven person jury containing three straight men and two gay women, none of whom she will have overtly worked to kill (I mean, kick off the island). I know, I'm stereotyping both the men and the gay women, however, the stereotype will hold for the men at least, and who, whatever their preferences, would pick Eliza over Julie? Even if Julie pulls a Colby, who would choose Twilla over Julie? Even Sarge will still be thinking maybe he still has a chance, especially since he must be thinking that his marriage is likely on the rocks.
And Survivor Vanuatu tops A$$ and Romber when Julie wins the money and the host. They are going to have to have a three way to top this next year.
Next week I may have to post my really really clear vision as well as the excuses for this one.
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42. "RE: Snewsah... (and other sites)" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-11-04 AT 10:18 PM (EST)Congratulations, Sylvester the Cat, your vision is the clearer one. I am obviously hallucinating. I could claim the caveat that if ones projected evictee gets immunity, all bets are off. However in my vision the standby candidate was Scout, and I'd still be Wrong. CHRIS voted for Sarge? Chad Voted for Julie? The three men voted for three different women? They can't even get their own act together? It is very difficult to make predictions when the basis of ones rationale has to be "How idiotic will they be this week?". We may have yet to plumb the depths of their idiocy. I vent. Still you nailed it; hope your list holds up. I mean, the majority of people guessed Sarge but you backed it up with the rest of the season results. Much trickier. And while I’d like to see it I’d like to see it hold up, I imagine I’ll be disagreeing for one bone-headed reason or another. Spoiling/Speculation (this is a spoiler area after all) The factions are;
Ami and ?
Leanne and Julie,
Scout and who, the men? Ami?
Chris and Chad and Twilla,
Eliza and who, the guys? With this grouping, it seems rational to assume Chris, Chad, Twilla and Eliza could team up, and maybe target Scout. Well, I'm going to do it again, reason out a list from now to the end, but I'll have to work on it a while. Props.
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43. "RE: Snewsah... (and other sites)" |
Why thank you Kingfish, lol. I'm blushing now. *g*We'll see how my prediction holds up. There is a clairvoyant streak that runs in the women in my family. *g* again, lol. You talked about factions, so I have to chime in with how I see the lay of the land after tonight's episode. Ami, Leann, & Julie
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Eliza - the wildcard I feel pretty confident still in my vision. Ami goes next week when Eliza teams up with the final 4. Leann the week after, makes no difference that week what Eliza does. Julie after that, again Eliza is of no importance. Then Eliza, and we're down to final 4. Sylvester (just call me CAT)
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45. "RE: Snewsah... (and other sites)" |
Cats can blush? Wait a minute, you're not really a talking cyberspace cat? I expect that, now that the men’s team has been rendered impotent, the women who perceive themselves to be in the non-final four of the women’s team are thinking about using the remaining men's votes to help them reverse the power in return for letting the men stay another week or two. Editing gives some signs of this. The next two weeks will determine which of the women are thinking strategically, those who either feel comfortable with their station in life, those who lack strategic imagination, and those who are going to allow self imposed constraints to limit their options. Ami could use the men also, but they probably won't (Ami at least) because of her self imposed constraint, Julie has to be ecstatic about her recently improved prospects, and Leanne seems to be comfortable with her status as buttressed with her new or recently re-proven ally (Julie). This is a great chance for the lower tier women to knock off Ami, then Julie (or Leanne), then absorb the remaining woman to finally eliminate the men. Then you have the final four. It would be in their best interests for Eliza and Scout to set aside their personal feelings for a while, at least till they get to that point. So here's my really really really clear vision (If they are smart); Next out - Ami
Then Julie (interchangeable with Leanne. the men would probably rather vote out back-stabbing Julie)
Then Chris (or Chad)
Then Chad (or Chris) Then, Final four, Leanne, Twilla, Eliza, Scout;
Then Either Eliza or Scout goes. Leanne and Twilla probably would team up against Scout first, but close call. Then the final endurance challenge. Either Leanne or Eliza wins,
Eliza would have to take Twilla, but she would lose against either.
Leanne would take Eliza. Eliza will lose the endurance if she realizes she is in the final two regardless, so the final two will be Leanne and Eliza, with Leanne winning. Not a popular prediction right now with her bland editing and Snewser picking her next week. But there is logic. I do think that Leanne might go as indicated by Snewser and that then I will need a really really really really clear vision.
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I Told you so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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and if Leann goes in 7th place then Ami goes either 9 or 8th place (early jury) like i said emydi IN YOUR FACE!!!
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This is what you said in your lousy English:they guys want Ami gone first and they take here out by Eliza-Chris-Chad-Lea-Julie and maybe even Twilia vote for Ami
Ami gone first and was said she was a early jury boot!!!! You said Ami goes FIRST. Not early jury. Not 8th OR 9th place. If she doesn't go in 9th place you're WRONG. It's time for you to get lost now.
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Umm.What you said (amongst other things) was that Julie doesn't go this Thursday and that Ami goes this Thursday. Emy made no predictions unless she made one in the vote thread. If Lea goes, then you are incorrect in your most direct prediction. Even if Ami goes next week and is an early juror, I still completely fail to see where Emy said anything to the effect of "I can 100% guarantee that Ami will not be an early juror". Quite the contrary, she, as have most here, has read, read some more, contributed politely to the exploration of all possibilities however improbable. Enough said for the Survivor side of things. Your earlier post suggested that/attacked all or many posters were, shall I euphemize, nincompoops for not at once agreeing that Ami was the obvious next boot. With this post, you have singled out Emydi for a flame. THAT is strictly verboten. I have alerted your post.
 
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She did say something she said something like "Come Thurday we will see" meaning that i was wrong saying Julie was not going, and we know know i am write and i still do think Ami will go in 8th or 9th early jury like a said becuse its not logical for her to go after LeAnn.
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25. "RE: TDT..." |
>She did say something she said
>something like "Come Thurday we
>will see" meaning that i
>was wrong No, that is NOT what it means. It means exactly that: "we'll see what happens." In case you don't get it... this is a community where we discuss the show and throw out theories on who the boot might be. More often than not we won't be right -- but when we're right, we NEVER toot our own horns and say "see, I was right!" or "of course, so-and-so is a dumbass and his/her theory was proven wrong."
>we know know i am write
No, I don't think you know how to write. And I don't give a shiv if you're correct or wrong -- we throw out ideas and discuss if it will happen or not, then accept whatever happens and learn from where we guessed wrong. And as others already pointed out, you've flip-flopped more than John Kerry has, you've said Ami is out first and then you've said Sarge is out, brak brak brak.
 
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21. "DVABDP Please stop this behavior " |
Familiarize yourself with the Guidelines where you will find that your behavior is entirely not acceptable.
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34. "RE: Marquesas redux?" |
I just hate it whem someone else comes up with my theory. Except different. And better. Although, if they don't get Ami this week (and I have to admit, all the stars are lining up over a Sarge outing), then this great enemy of mankind will have another week to turn votes. I would, if I were there, which I'm not, which I would like to be, and would be, if not for this stupid electronic ankle bracelet, I would take out AMI first chance I got, were I man tribe or bow tribe. IF they don't get her out this week, all three swing/lower pecking order voters would have to side with the two remaining men to get her out next week. That is tempting fate I think. This week, only two have to vote with tthe three men to get AMI.
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39. "RE: Marquesas redux?" |
Eliza's star begins to rise again in this episode as she clearly sees where her position is in the womens alliance. As I have said all along the little one is not strong in physical challenges but her mind is as sharp as a tack in the mental challenges. She is annoying and her mouth does not stop as many of the booted survivors have attested to.She will be seen as a perfect foil to go against in the finals. IMO even if she does not make it to the final four she is in a great position to determine just who will make it. Keep an eye on her. Her game play begins now.RedBeard
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ABT's PicksReward - Scout Immunity - Eliza Boot - Sarge
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36. "RE: Snewsah... (and other sites)" |
snewser says its sarge
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38. "RE: Snewsah... (and other sites)" |
Snews says that it's Sarge...here's the link.I just love it when he posts his boot picks so late!
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LAST EDITED ON 11-17-04 AT 10:20 PM (EST)Snewser's up...
CHAD... This makes us wonder then if he is gone, how does leann get the boot? Comments, thoughts, remarks? Edited to say: I type way too fast.
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LAST EDITED ON 11-18-04 AT 01:46 AM (EST)This makes us wonder then if he is gone, how does leann get the boot? The explanation might be very simple ... For the women to boot another woman instead of the last remaining male he would have to win immunity. I suspect that Jeff's comment at TC last week (which seemed to be edited in) that someone might go on an immunity run. This might point to Chris. S.
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51. "RE: Snewsah... (and other sites)" |
It was more than a comment, too. As Jeff made the immunity run remark, the camera showed the entire group. Then the group got up to leave, taking their torches, and the camera gave us a close up on Chris. Chris was the only one the camera did a close up on as the show ended with the Survivor music.
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52. "RE: Snewsah... (and other sites)" |
I think?? the question Abbahammer was asking was why Leann and not Ami in ep. 11? Esp. if Ami wins IC in Ep. 10, she will be seen as very strong (even by the other women Julie and Eliza) and Chris will make his move at 7 (an odd no.) with Twila, Scout and Eliza and/or Julie. When Ami wins IC (not Chris) in Ep. 11 they are relegated to going after Ami's 1st lieutenant, Leann..that is my thinking anyway.. Imho, I think Chris gets to F2 without ever winning an IC. The women SHOULD start thinking with the jury makeup of 5-2 in women's favor, he becomes the ideal F2 candidate. 
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>Imho, I think Chris gets to
>F2 without ever winning an
>IC. The women SHOULD
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>makeup of 5-2 in women's
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..I disagree that the 5-2 female jury makeup makes Chris a good F2 candidate. I think a more apt number is not the 5-2 women/men breakdown but the 5-2 dominant/non-dominant alliance breakdown.
If Chris makes the final two that means there will be only two people on the jury that he had a long term alliance with, Sarge and Chad. On the other hand, whichever woman ends up in the F2 will have 5 former alliance members staring at her from the jury box. That will most likely include at least 4 women who were, in their opinion, stabbed in the back by members of their own alliance. Those women are gonna be bitter and p!ssed off about the fact that it is some other woman and not them that made it to the F2. No one is gonna be mad at Chris for making it to the F2..after all, he entered the merge with the odds against him and did what he had to do to battle his way to the F2. On the other hand, there will most likely be some resentment from the women towards whatever woman is in the F2. Therefore, I think Chris is a lousy F2 opponent. If you want examples from Survivor history just look at the Vecepia/neleH vote....all the ex-Roto people who voted for Vecepia to win did so cause they felt betrayed by neleH, even though Vecepia voted them out as well. What is the old say...he!! hath no fury like a woman scorned. Well, there's gonna be five scorned women on the jury...who do you think they're gonna be mad at? Chris? No way. Whatever woman ends up in the F2? Definitely! 
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LAST EDITED ON 11-18-04 AT 01:56 PM (EST)Shakes..your logic and analysis are dead on accurate ..that's why I think Chris will win the whole thing... But as to how it happens on the show...we all know that most survivors are not the most logical in their thinking and they unfortunately do not look to the end game as early as they should. Plus they will be getting all kinds of lies, etc. from people (like Chris) to sway their vote. I'm looking at how the women (esp. Julie and Eliza who imo will give Chris his needed 4th vote to start crumbling the women's alliance in Ep. 11 with Leann) will be thinking (which will not be as logical as your analysis). Heck, I think Chris will try to subtely use the fact that he is the best F2 candidate when he tries to persuade Eliza and Julie to vote out Leann/Ami. They will think..hell, Chris is perfect, the women are such a tight knit group (yeah, right), I'll win hands down in a jury vote or at least get the required 4 votes... I think probably the only one that will think as logically as you have in your post is Ami and that's why Chris is trying to get her out ASAP.
If Chris pulls this off and wins this thing..he will replace Rob C. as my favorite survivor of all time.
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53. "RE: Snewsah... (and other sites)" |
That easily explains how a Womans boot is possible. But Leanne? So many targets to choose from that make more sense than Leanne.
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I have got to admit, with Chris getting by this week, I am thinking that he is well on his way to F2, and imo, if he makes it that far, I think he'll easily win the whole thing.As for why take out Leanne next week... that's easy! If Ami wins the IN next week, than the next best thing is to still chip away at her base, LEANN. Leann is Ami's biggest ally, and one of the main reasons that Ami keeps all of the power. Look how Leann courted Julie last week....Ami has the numbers with her, so if you can not get at her directly, than go after her numbers, starting with Leann. That's my logic and I'm sticking with it!
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