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"Episode 9 Boot- Ami Cusack"
KObrien_fan 8360 desperate attention whore postings
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11-05-04, 08:41 AM (EST)
 
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"Episode 9 Boot- Ami Cusack" |
Twila and Julie seemed to switch on the guys last night, but really they didn't. Twila was clear all along that she viewed Rory as a threat physically and she didn't trust him- AND she wanted him out.She even said, this week Rory, next week Ami. And she meant it, the guys just didn't do a good job of listening to her. NuLopevi still has a 5/4 advantage now that they have booted a NuYasur. They need to reconcile for sure, but it is there for them unless the men do something stupid to mess it up. This week we will see Twila and Julie stick with the 3 men to get rid of the chief from the NuYasur tribe- Ami. Thoughts? 
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings
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11-05-04, 08:56 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Episode 9 Boot- Ami Cusack" |
Oh, I hope you're right. Otherwise, this show is pretty damn boring.The show I'd love to see: After the IC, Twila goes up to Sarge and says, "You guys vote for Ami. Trust us." Since the guys realize they have nothing to lose - and they want to vote for Ami anyway - they do, and are pleasantly surprised at TC when Ami goes home 5-3. The show I dread seeing: Sarge gripes at Twila, Twila says she feels bad in a confessional, the guys sit around and complain, and Sarge gets voted off 5-3 on strict gender lines, with the pagonging sure to continue until Ami's dream of a female-dominated Survivor comes to fruition.   Please abide in my words, for my references speak of the truth that is within me.
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katethegreat 207 desperate attention whore postings
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11-05-04, 09:05 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Episode 9 Boot- Ami Cusack" |
I agree with your thoughts. However, when Twila voted last night, she said (Paraphrasing - I'm no Marko!) "Rory, you and Sarge are the strong ones. He had immunity, so you have to go." That makes me hesitate to believe that she will re-align with Sarge, which I DID believe until I heard that. Scout's comment was also interesting. She said "Rory, if you had picked a different woman, I could have gone along with you.: I'm pretty sure she said woman or female, although I am not 100%.If Twila and Julie are good, they will re-align with the guys to take out Ami and Eliza. Then they could re-align with the girls to take out two guys. But most people don't flip that much. They can still align with the guys at this point, saying We wanted Rory out and we told you that. Now we are satisfied.
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cuon10 473 desperate attention whore postings
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11-05-04, 11:26 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Episode 9 Boot- Ami Cusack" |
You saw that too. I was wondering about that. Hopefully, Twyla thinks out her strategy and realizes that she is best off playing both sides for now. And Sarge is the guy she can trust the most. Having watched Chris and Chad, I think Sarge can trust Chad more than Chris, but Chris seems to like Twila better.
The thing to do for both Sarge and Twyla would be to get rid of Ami and then Julie. Why Julie? Because she is not completely trustworthy. And as the boots continue, she would not be able to trust Chris and Chad completely and I would guess she would work with Eliza and Leanne on the side. Plus, Twyla would still have the odds on her side for either way. Right now it is 6 to 3, next week Ami goes, 5 to 3 or 4 to 4, still fair odds, vote off Julie or Eliza and you still have 4 to 3, Twila being swing or more the swing either way. So either way Twila would go, would be to her benefit and under her control. Her best bet is to forget about the physical strength of Sarge and go with logic.
Besides, the challenges get less physical to a degree now and more on mental challenges and simple physical challenges. For most of the rest, the big threats there are Eliza and Chad. If they are thought this one through, they would realize this. After reading my own thoughts, I think I should correct my thinking to Ami, the Eliza, then Chad. Worst case senario, they end up with ties, but Twyla can dominate.
Also, I would guess Julie goes soon because I do not believe that the producers and MB would let Jeff Probst date Julie if she ended up in the final 2 or 4 because it would look bad for the show and to the other contestants. IF that rumor is even true.
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cuon10 473 desperate attention whore postings
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11-05-04, 09:03 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Episode 9 Boot- Ami Cusack" |
I hope so. I had that feeling. Twyla has proven to be the sly fox on the farm. She should realize that she would be one of the next women Ami would want rid of because she is a physical threat and she gets along with the rest of the men. Hopefully, she has made that clear only to Sarge on the men. Eliza proved last night she is not a real physical threat. If Twyla were smart, she would take Eliza to the end with Chris and Sarge. I believe that Twyla has a great chance at winning now, if she does not get caught up in the women's bs. She is planning to load the jury in her favor. And pretty much, that is what will happen. Some of the ladies made fun of her country ways, but look at where they are now. I just hope she has not made the men so mad, they will get rid of her by gaming with Ami. She has some persuasion with the ladies. If Chris and Chad get with Ami, Eliza, LeAnne and Julie, then Sarge and Twila are doomed.
They definitely need to take Ami out because she is a physical threat to everyone except maybe Twyla and Sarge, and my guess is she could be neck and neck with Twyla on any challenge. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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cuon10 473 desperate attention whore postings
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11-05-04, 11:30 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Episode 9 Boot- Ami Cusack" |
That is very true, but given her body type and the fact that she had no excess body fat to begin with, she seems to be dragging a little now. But she is the biggest threat along with Chad in the mental challenges. She is way intelligent. I think though if Twyla somehow could manage to keep her around without getting screwed by her, she would be the best to take to final 2 by far.
Or at least get to final four and see how it goes. I am hoping for a final four of Twyla, Sarge, Chris and Eliza or Leanne. but we will see.
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11-05-04, 10:34 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Episode 9 Boot- Ami Cusack" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-05-04 AT 11:12 AM (EST)My thoughts? Yes. Exactly. (ETA: All of this assumes Ami does not win IC next week. If she does, things could go quite differently...) Hats off to Twila and Julie for executing the best, smartest strategic maneuver we've seen on Survivor for a looooooong time. We're so used to dumba$$ contestants, this was great. T and J can run this game to the end now if they stick together. Absolutely get rid of Ami next. That keeps Twila's buddy Scout and Julie's buddy Eliza around, with Leann twisting in the wind. Next T/J could vote with the men once more to get rid of Leann. Or if they're nervous about the men winning IC's they can vote with the women and start taking out the men, dumping Leann at F5. Either way, Julie/Twila/Scout/Eliza have a great shot at getting to final 4 together, barring any late IC wins by any of the guys. I definitely expect T/J to vote with the men to axe Ami next week. It's a no-brainer. The question is: do T and J stick together after that? J wasn't promised a final 4 slot with the men when Twila was, but she did make an F2 pact with Chris. I think if T and J continue to compare notes they should see that it's in their best interest to stick together. I'm really enjoying the dynamic between them. 
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11-05-04, 10:37 AM (EST)
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9. "Disagree" |
I think that Twila and Julie wanted the men to take out Rory because that way they could be seen as supporting the guys that much longer. I think the key quotes were Scout saying "they did what they had to do to survive", Twila saying what effectively was "Scout, shut up, you're going to blow my cover" and Twila at the TC saying "There are new pacts and old alliances" which tells me that she still thinks about the old alliances.I think that Lea will go next week or potentially Chris but that there will be an internal power struggle between the six women that will take over in the priority. If the women split 3-3, then they will have to court the male vote (whether it be only one or two remaining men) to help oust the other block of three. The mentality will be that the women will still have numbers even if they cut a few of their own. The problem will likely be that once it gets to 3 women and 2 men (or 1), then one of the women (whoever is 3rd on the totem pole) will realize that she has a better chance of getting farther by making a deal with one of the men. And by then, it would only take one woman to cross over to the men's side to switch things around. This scenario would fulfill two of Jeff's earlier comments:
1. There will be a display of woman power. (seen last night and prob. next week)
2. Hardcore alliances crumble. #2 is probably a rift between Ami and Scout or Scout and Twila. I can see Ami, Leann and Scout on one side vs. Julie, Eliza and Twila. Since Ami is inflexible and Eliza is known for flip-flopping already, I see Eliza going over to the men to vote out, in order, Ami and Leeann. After that, you're left with Chad, Chris, Eliza, Julie, Twila and Scout. I can see a male immunity run here causing some tough decisions after that.
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aethelstan 4435 desperate attention whore postings
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11-05-04, 01:18 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Disagree" |
Yes, as I gave in my scenario above, I think that will happen. However, since Julie and Twila have already been seen, er, sleeping with the enemy  , I don't see them as part of the 'hardcore alliance', except perhaps Scout and Twila.
That's why I see it more as Ami/Scout splitting or Ami/Eliza however, those two have never been seen as having a strong alliance. Maybe Ami and Leeann? Did you see when Leeann said "how exciting" when they were told about the merge? She seemed very sweet and genuine there.
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11-05-04, 04:29 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Disagree /Scout and Twila" |
I think if there is anymore crumbling than there already has been, it may be Scout switching sides... it wouldnt suprise me anyway...
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11-05-04, 02:47 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Episode 9 Boot- Ami Cusack" |
Ami is gone this week, and we'll see for sure that "Lopevi" is getting rid of "Yasur" on the Alinta tribe. Hopefully this is true or else we are in for a boring season.I think this will also show Twila as a good, strategic player and will sort of kick off her storyline that was kinda, but not really, started last night (oh come on, you can't consider what she has going a storyline, can you?) Anyways, I'm saying Ami this week, which really means nothing cause its not like I have any original info, just insight! S_21
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11-05-04, 02:14 PM (EST)
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16. "Disagree" |
A couple of things to consider:1) Twila says in the voting booth clip on Survivor Insider that Rory and Sarge were the two biggest challenge threats and Sarge won immunity. Would she be lying in a vote confessional? Perhaps, but I don't see any reason to do that unless she was afraid of being overheard. 2) The focus of the web promo is the guys trying to rally and Twila's betrayal of Sarge. Sarge is pissed. The men are in trouble. But they're gonna come out fighting to try to change the tide. This is classic Burnettian conflict created in the editing lab. They want us to believe that the men can forge a comeback. Ain't gonna happen. 3) Rory's post-game comments about how the women "will" vote in a line. God bless Rory for his bluntness. 4) I just don't think Twila and Julie are that savvy that they can hop back and forth from week to week. Last week we had Rory's discontent shoved down our throats. This week it's Sarge's. I believe your E9 boot is Sarge.  Fester
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11-05-04, 06:50 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Disagree" |
I think its completly Ironic that Chris thinks he has to tell Twila how to play - obviously she is playing and very well at that.
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11-07-04, 08:07 AM (EST)
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27. "RE: AMI ISNT GOING ANYWHERE" |
Julie has got to know that she is at the bottom of the Women's Totem Pole. She knows that after all of the men are gone...she would probably be next in line to go.jYes, Scarlet that's how it was when she left old Yasur, but the dynamics of the game have changed quite a bit since then. Ami and Eliza are glad that she's back now, and her relationship with Twila has changed significantly since then. Also, if they did choose to get rid of all of the guys, I'd say Julie has one of the best chances at going on an IC run...especially if Twila and Julie decided to take out Ami, and then pagong the guys....then Julie's competition would be Eliza, Leanne, Scout, and Twila. Does'nt sound like bad odds to me! I'd say that Julie is sitting in a pretty good position right now. 
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11-07-04, 11:21 AM (EST)
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28. "RE: AMI ISNT GOING ANYWHERE" |
I realize that if the women blindly follow Ami the women will prevail. Here is the issue. We know that both Julie and Eliza are scheming and intelligent. We haven't seen much of Leann. Once the "love fest" starts and if Scout and Ami are "outed", Twila could feel repulsed. Remember although Twila acts like a man she also hosts that "Good Old Boy" attitude. Gay is not something she likes. But back to Julie and Eliza, they know they are first on the chopping block once the men are gone. They also know they have the power to somewhat control the guys. Here's how I could see it going. Julie and Eliza approach the guys and say we had to go along with them to keep this hidden for awhile. We knew Rory was not part of your long term plan so we pretended to be alligned with the women. Now we want to move and take power with you and we have to take out their power, first Ami then Scout then Twila and we'll wait with Leann. This could be how Ami is ousted.
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11-07-04, 12:17 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: AMI ISNT GOING ANYWHERE" |
"Once the "love fest" starts and if Scout and Ami are "outed", Twila could feel repulsed. Remember although Twila acts like a man she also hosts that "Good Old Boy" attitude. Gay is not something she likes."Nashter, Twila knows that Ami & Scout are lesbians. It has been discussed both at Yasur and at Lopevi. Back when Dolly was booted in Ep 2 she said in her interviews that it was discussed and everyone knew. In Episode 8, Sarge was teasing Twila about Ami coming on to her. Twila's reply was along the lines of she had no problem with how they were, but she wasn't interested. I do think it's possible that Eliza will end up going to the men's side for a vote or 2, if she sees that it will benefit her. Eliza has the least allegiance to anyone imo.
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11-07-04, 05:04 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: AMI ISNT GOING ANYWHERE" |
I believe what you said Flower. I have said from the beginning that Eliza is the one to watch. She will be the key to which alliance survives and which one falls. Her intellengence will help her see just where she is in the pecking order and her ability to make quick decisions on the run coupled with her lack of being a threat in the challenges will help her go far. Also she may be brought along to the final 2 as one who might be easy to beat because she never shuts up and is annoying to most of the other contestants. Even if she dosnt make the final four herself I feel she will be instrumental in who gets there.RedBeard
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11-10-04, 02:17 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: AMI ISNT GOING ANYWHERE" |
Agree: Ami = A$$ Boston Rob. (Leann = Amber?, Chris/Chad = Shii?)
Sarge is out. Let the Pagonging begin!
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