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"Message from sleek"
SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-26-04, 10:34 AM (EST)
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"Message from sleek" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-26-04 AT 11:53 AM (EST)I haven't been online much the past couple of days, so if this is already being discussed, let me know and I'll lock it, but the following email showed up in my Inbox a couple of hours ago. The only change I've done is to remove Griffe's email address. I want to make it clear that I am not posting this because I believe the claims of the message are correct (in fact, I believe quite the opposite, and, that like the original boot list, this entire message is likely an imaginative work of fiction.) While I have ZERO plans to post any future emails on this topic, I'm simply posting this message so everyone knows exactly what sleek is alleging (from the last I had heard on this topic, Q had suspended sleek from EZSucks after he admitted he was a hoax but at the time Q had declined to reveal the particulars of sleek's allegations to the community at large.) Think of it more like a "closing the book" type of thing...
-----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 7:07 AM To: survivorblows@survivorblows.com Subject: A message from "sleek28" regarding media bootlist frenzy Feel free to pass this along and share with the fans if you feel it is appropriate Sleek28
A Note from SEG to the Fans of Survivor This message is intended to conclude the "Sleek28" spoiler information that was posted on Ezboard Survivor Sucks webpage. The original intent of the thread was quite complicated. We will not discuss how we are affiliated with Mark Burnett, SEG, or CBS. We can only say that we have done work for them in various capacities since Survivor Africa. Due to countless leaks within the SEG family, a plan was devised with input from Mr. Burnett, Jeff Probst, and the Survivor team. This plan is necessary to diminish future value of spoilers and raise the question as to their legitimacy. Several factors led to this decision. There is no doubt that people are getting mostly incorrect but sometimes very correct information on the outcome of previous Survivor seasons. One example, being the betting scandal which an overwhelming amount of money was being wagered on the winner Sandra Diaz-Twine. The team, including Mark Burnett felt that it was time to put together a plan to counter information that would ruin the integrity of the series. Mark Burnett and Jeff Probst have both talked openly on this issue in interviews before the airing of Survivor All-Stars and made it clear that incorrect information would be planted in the media. Many security breaches while filming All-Stars led to this multi-level plan that will keep the spoiling community on its heels. The only part of this plan that is going to be public knowledge is this document that should explain the thought behind the "plant" Sleek28 thread at Survivor Sucks. It was devised that a bootlist with the first 4 boots in correct order would be released. After careful consideration, Survivor Sucks was chosen for one reason: The fact that all of the major "spoiling" sites seem to have a "home" on Survivor Sucks. In other words, if it were available on Survivor Sucks then all of the big players in the spoiling community would have access to the information. The original intent was to get some boots correct, with evidence to back those boots. Then steer the crowd wrong with a Jerri boot on the 5th episode. We also talked about a big announcement in a "few weeks". We led the members to believe that "sleek28" was a disgruntled employee and that the big announcement would likely be impending lawsuits that would be announced to the public in due time. Many posters picked up on this information. The truth is that the big announcement was this memo, explaining the theory behind the plant, and to announce that Mark Burnett and SEG will be countering information that could lead to the final result being ruined. Everything seemed to be going smoothly until the website administrator "Q" decided to breach a trust and tell very little of the true story. The ultimate goal was to have the thread thrive and then make the big announcement in the thread immediately following airing of Thur, Feb 26th episode east coast time. The point here is not to bash Q. Q did however leak the real name of one of our staff to someone. While we do not blame Q for the release of this individuals name, we know that the release of the name did indeed come from Q (Q is the only individual who was given any real names). When Q moved the thread to the dump, it prompted us to make revisions to the plan. We felt it was necessary to let Q in on the story. The thought here was that the Survivor community would take it as a compliment that Mr. Burnett was indeed ready to follow through with his promises of twists and turns within the Survivor community. This was never intentioned to play games or disrespect the spoiling community. Its only purpose was to let everyone know, in a fun way, that we are willing to play along to guarantee that Survivor will not have its future ruined by major leaks. So why plant a spoiler that is partially correct and then announce to anyone and everyone that it was indeed a plant? Very simple- This one time, and believe me one time only, SEG felt it was important to prove that plants can and will exist. This very small part of the plan is just the beginning, and I can go no further than that. Will we use the same format by using Survivor Sucks as a vehicle for misinformation? Probably not, but you just never know. Sadly, if Q had given permission for one final message, this would have played out nicely for everyone, not just SEG. We respected the stance that Q took, but we did ask for one final post to give the readers the complete story. We could have made up new names and posted messages, but instead we chose to respect the wishes of Q and not do that. Why is it that important to tell the 1% that follow the show through the spoiler sites?? We felt it was necessary because the 1% of you impact what the general public eventually hears. The plan was only devised out of respect to the spoiler community in general. The source that is very difficult to figure out is Tim Gilman at SurvivorNews.net. He is not targeted because he respects the show by releasing his boot picks just before airtime. Gilman might know boot orders well ahead of time, but is smart enough to take a target off his back by not impacting ratings with early picks. We do not want to waste time with hundreds of arguments behind legitimacy or not. It was very interesting to find that the "ColleenLover" spoiler had actually placed Rudy, Tina, and Rob C. together. Had we known that, we might have given even more correct boots to prove that we had the inside information. "Sleek28" was the only "spoiler" to get all 4 boots well ahead of time in correct order. As the episode details were being written , we had limited information to give, because much of it had not been edited. All of it however was absolutely correct- Jenna, Jerri, and at least one other conspired to vote off Tina. Rupert did lie to Rudy. Rudy asked him if the other three planned to vote him and Rupert did say "no". There was a symbolic tribal council for Jenna (episode 4 even showed the torches of the remaining tribe members). Brian was asked to participate in All-Stars (and admitted it on the early show last week), etc. etc.. We could give hundreds of further examples but that is not necessary. The proof is in the pudding. While Survivor Sucks is a very popular site for Survivor fans, there is no way that the media attention this list got solely came from Survivor Sucks. Starting Jan 21st and running until Feb 14th, we released several hundred press releases to radio and television affiliates. This avenue is how the boot list took off, and quite frankly, it has added excitement to the show. Over the next week or so, we will have new press releases coming out. They will specifically cover the reasoning behind the plant, and how the media campaign was very successful. Radio stations across the nation will be discussing this, and there should be some news stories on this within a week. Mark Burnett and Jeff Probst will be discussing specifically the "Sleek28" plant directly to the media during the interview process after All-stars concludes. For verification that this does indeed come from the true posters known as "sleek28", you can verify by emailing Griffe (Griffe is affiliated with Survivor News). She can vouch that this is being sent from the original Sleek28 email address. This verification in no way implying that Griffe is supporting this information, JUST verifying that this is not a copycat. For verification email Griffe at: XXXXXXXXXXXXX So in final thought remember this: SEG is now here to play. In the future you will not know how we are playing, but no doubt we will play. And since this list was a plant, the great news is that you can be assured that Rob Mariano and Amber Brkich are NOT the final two. Chew on that one for awhile. Sleek28 and the Team
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Jims02 7407 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-26-04, 10:43 AM (EST)
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1. "I love it!" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-26-04 AT 10:44 AM (EST)Thanks Webby. Good read. I just read a similar article at survivornews.net. Reading all of this stuff is quite interesting, like a real spy story or something... I personally *like* the fact that SEG has entered the spoiling scene. Sure, it's more complicated, but it's much more intriguing now. The RobM/Amber final never sat right with me. Couples never go through a game like Survivor, ESPECIALLY All Stars. One major gripe was about how predictable shows get once it's been "spoiled." I was worried about this season, but now not so much anymore. I'm kinda disappointed that we found out BEFORE the episode though. I kind of wanted the shock that Jerri didn't go home and that sleek was really a plant, kind of like how Michael Boatman went home "prematurely" in Celeb Mole Hawaii, shocking the few people who were watching... But I digress. Looks to be a fun season! A 2004 IceCat creation
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bdemoney 745 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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02-26-04, 11:00 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Message from sleek" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-26-04 AT 11:03 AM (EST) by SurvivorBlows (admin)Wow. I don't know what to make of that article. If it is indeed true, sleek was not only a hoax but an actual SEG plant. It seems odd that they would go to such great lengths to post a false boot list. I had already assumed the list would not be correct starting this week, so that is certainly not shocking. But I guess it's the end of the post that doesn't sit right with me. Why would they clearly state "you can be rest assured that Rob and Amber are not in the final two"?!?! I just don't think they would give out that type of information. Plus according to the following article "Has Survivor's secret been leaked?" located at: link Snewser is quoted as saying :"I don't know how much you want to give away to your readers," writes Snewser,who runs Survivornews.net. "But the list does indeed become wrong this week. However, in the grand scheme of things, he/she is probably not far off the mark." Which makes me wonder if either Rob or Amber are actually in the final two perhaps. For instance the snewser scorecard still shows Rob M. and Jenna as the final two. Makes me think CBS is trying to cover their butts since many spoilers seem to be naming the same final 7. Perhaps by trying to "prove" sleek's list is bogus, they are also trying to claim that the final 7 are not also correct. Which I disagree with, I think the final 7 that have been named by C1, snewser, and even sleek may be very credible. They all seem to have the same 7 names, perhaps in just a bit different order. What do you guys think about this?
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Jims02 7407 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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LAST EDITED ON 02-26-04 AT 11:52 AM (EST)Possibly. May just be a big DAW out there. But I remember a quote of MB's or Jiffy's that mentioned that they would feed false information to the media... I need to go find it. It would be interesting if this is what they meant at the time. I found it a few pages back. Interesting read, based on the circumstances. Excerpt: "Sooner or later you cannot combat people who betray you," Probst said. "We have a crew of 400 people, and everybody tells somebody something. I definitely believe that. "Once you spread information like that and there's money to be made or fame to be had - 'Hey I know something you don't know, listen to this' - all we can do, honestly, is counter it with our own misinformation." Survivor: All-Stars will see the return of 18 past contestants, including memorable characters like the original Survivor's Richard Hatch and crusty former navy SEAL Rudy Boesch, and Survivor: Pearl Islands would-be Blackbeard, Rupert Boneham. Some All-Stars spoilers have already bubbled to the surface, suggesting that the past $1-million winners don't fare all that well, that Rupert does not emerge as the ultimate victor and that Survivor: The Amazon winner Jenna Morasca leaves the show early, due to the death of her mother. Then again, maybe some of those tidbits have just been released into the wild by CBS's own counter-intelligence squad. Gamblers, be warned. Said Probst: "Better make sure if you're betting, that what you're reading is right." I'm still skeptical, but it really makes you think. During Amazon, we had bootlists, but those never really hit the media much (such as radio). It makes me question WHY sleek's list became so big. That was weird... I was about to reply to you Webby, saying I found it, but the reply box had your edit in it when I was composing the message.
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raidersfantom 137 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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02-26-04, 11:52 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: Message from sleek" |
Why would the plant spoil the fact that Rob and Amber are not in the final two? This whole thing gets fishier by the minute. I mean, here they are trying to discredit all the spoilers, yet they spoil the show half way by saying Robmer aren't the final two?It's great to see that the list is done (allegedly) and that each week will be a surprise from this point out. Yet, I agree that when I hear "sleek28" come out of MB's mouth, I'll believe the whole thing was a sham. Two reasons I can see why not just MB, SEG, CBS but others within the spoiler community would want the list to be false. 1) Online gambling 2) A huge loss of ratings to the final season of Friends Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I just see that creating all this buzz will do a great thing for the show, increase ratings!
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angelworth29 532 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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02-26-04, 12:05 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Message from sleek" |
To be honest, my very first thought after reading sleek28's list was that it was real. However, I believed that it was a plant from SEG and/or Mark Burnett. I know that doesn't make much sense, but I'll explain. I thought that the true boot list had been leaked in order to stop the spoiling community. How much fun has it really been the past few weeks already knowing who would be going home without a doubt? I'll tell you for me, it hasn't been much fun at all. Now look at this week. All of a sudden we are actually having to think about things and study vidcaps to make our predictions. I for one don't get to look at Snewser's pick before the show, so tonight it might actually be a surprise for me! That hasn't happened in a long time! What would have happened if the whole boot list HAD been correct? I would never want to see a boot list again for fear that it would ruin the show for me! This is such an interesting development! I don't think I'll get off the computer for the rest of the day! (Until 7:00)
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MattyMax 515 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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02-26-04, 12:02 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Message from sleek" |
This whole thing still sounds like bullsh-t. What's with the personal attacks on Q in there? if Q knew they were a plant, wouldn't she be ethically responsible to trash their threads? Also, they seem to have no idea about the Patagonia spoilers and Snewster's boot list. Wouldn't someone pulling some elaborate hoax, sponsered by SeeBS, look at the other spoilers out there? I'm very happy it's over. I don't care if it's real or not. It's sticky and smells bad and comes apart in your hand. MM
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managerr 1959 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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02-26-04, 12:24 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Message from sleek" |
I think that is the case too. The "message" from Sleek is just a good way to cover. He was a hoaxter, nothing more. If not, CBS is truly incompetent because you would think they actually *read* the board you would be trying to fool--and Colleenlover's information was always right at the top of spoilers.
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erickman 61 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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02-26-04, 12:26 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Message from sleek" |
yea sleek sent me pm's at sucks too, that guy is so full of crap. he said Q was a big lier blah-blah-blah
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angelworth29 532 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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02-26-04, 12:28 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Message from sleek" |
Is anyone going to post this at Sucks? I know that anyone relaying messages from "sleek" is going to be banned, but this is pretty big information. I'm not afraid to get banned.
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shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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02-26-04, 12:33 PM (EST)
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29. "just more boosh!t from a fake" |
...cmon lemmings, I mean people, stop being so stupid and try grasping the obvious for a change. This is clearly a last gasp effort by a hoaxer trying to cling to whatever DAW opportunities are still out there for him.Now that we all know (actually some of knew the second it came out) that the boot list is fake he is clearly trying to save face by essentially saying "of course its fake, I'm a plant!" What better way to grab notoriety than to be labeled as an MB sanctioned plant. As I said from day 1, anyone who believes even one shred of what this liar says is a moron, plain and simple.
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memacmur 359 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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02-26-04, 05:42 PM (EST)
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50. "RE: just more boosh!t from a fake" |
But what if the hoax is that Shakes thinks the hoax is a hoax with some extra hoaxing on top?In reality, Shakes beleives the Sleek28 list of mysterious origins is legitimate, thanks to his sources within the CIA, FBI and CSIS who have nothing better to do than debunk bunk. Just to tick people off, I'm going to vote according to the list until is proven horribly, horribly wrong, then blame MB for not manipulating the players to vote each other out in the order everyone's favorite DAW of the year(Sleek28). In fact, I think after sleek is proven wrong, I'll post a post pointing out that the list was a plant, but it only had to go wrong once before people would dismiss it, and therefore the rest of the results are probably correct since no one will believe them! And of course I'll ignore the one basic flaw in that arguement... Well, enough ranting for this afternoon, time to go put all my monopoly money on Amber's winning ASS. The world needs more angry clowns!!! MEmacmur
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Loquatrix 640 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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02-26-04, 02:14 PM (EST)
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30. "I so DON'T CARE!!!" |
I don't care whether the "inside information" stuff is or is not a hoax. I don't care if it is or is not planted by SEG. I don't care if some people win money by betting on this stuff.What I DO care about is coming along to the Blows boards and discoursing with intelligent, funny individuals with whom I share a common interest, for the purposes of DEDUCING what goes on in each episode by viewing the evidence we are shown by CBS as part of its ordinary activities in producing a piece of delightful TV entertainment that keeps us all coming back season after season. Spoiling, for me, is not about being presented with a boot list and being told that "This is what is going to happen in the show." That's no fun at all for anyone other than the person who issued the list. I disdain the people whose perspectives are so limited that they fish their fifteen minutes of fame by coy, child-like attention-seeking on internet message boards. The people who do that, AND the people who get their panties wadded either in the excitement of buying into these issuances, or in indignation that someone else has a closer connection with the production, are of no interest to anyone other than themselves. You can see them feeding off each other. It would please me greatly to know that SEG is in the business of planting false information about the show, because the only people it would negatively impact are the nitwits I just referred to, who (for whatever reason) are ready to buy into basically any load of tripe that is sold to them as long as it sounds plausible. This is the very definition of the word "gullible." Not impacted by the planting of false boot lists are the people who, like many of the good folks here at Blows, enjoy the simple pleasure of viewing material that has been released by CBS, reading interviews with contestants, discussing their characters and their motivations, and putting together a proposal for what may actually happen. Detective work based on actual physical evidence is the true art of "spoiling" -- and I hesitate to call what we do "spoiling," because it certainly doesn't spoil the show for me. It enhances my viewing pleasure to see our educated predictions come true, just as it enhances my viewing pleasure to see where we were wrong. That kind of pleasure is decreased by leaked secrets. I really hope SEG *is* in the business of planting false information to disguise truths that are leaked, because it'll make what *I* enjoy all the more fun.
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thetick 279 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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02-26-04, 03:11 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: I so DON'T CARE!!!" |
You know not to be picky, but your sentence - This is the very definition of the word "gullible." -is unintentionally ironic. Gullible has no accepted official definition as it is not really a word. Similar to how "ain't" is commonly used although not officially correct, gullible is not actually an official word. After years of common usage, 'ain't' eventually began creeping into official, published dictionaries, and has become legitimized. But, in one of the wonderful quirks of the English languish, 'gullible' has never made that leap to official status from slang. 'Gullible' is not included in any reputable published dictionaries and is hence not a word. Of course, dictionaries are becoming less relevant to the average person with the increasing dependence on spellcheckers which unfortunately include all kinds of slang/vernacular/unofficial bastardizations of the language. I realize there are very few of us professional gramaticians out there, but your sentence struck me funny.
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TeamJoisey 3558 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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02-26-04, 03:43 PM (EST)
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34. "Uh... Webster says:" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-26-04 AT 03:51 PM (EST)gul*lible (gul'e bel) adj.; easily cheated or tricked; credulous; also (Rare) gul'*lable -- gul'*libil'*ity n. - gul'*libly adv. This entry can be found in the Webster's New World College Dictionary, Fourth Edition (published 1999) page 633. Webster's is the official dictionary of the Associated Press. P.S. Grammaticians rarely misspell the word "grammaticians." Maybe you were kidding, and I didn't get it. I dunno.
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ihavturtlduvluv 152 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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02-26-04, 03:44 PM (EST)
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35. "Okay, so my question is - who's the gullible one?" |
You state that gullible is not a word, however you are wrong. So the question is, who is the gullible one - is it me, for actually believing that you believe the word gullible is not real, or you for believing in April Fool's Jokes. That's right, do a google on 'the word gullible is not real' tell me what you find.You have been had my friend. And just for kicks and giggles, here are a few links to the definition of the word 'gullible' from reputable dictionary websites. Webster’s Dictionary says this on the word: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=gullible Dictionary.com says this on the word: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gullible I hope this is taken all in jest (as it is intended) I hope you have a wonderful Thursday afternoon.
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Witless 84 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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02-26-04, 11:44 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: I always thought that..." |
>dictionaries reflect usage. > >They do not direct usage. There are three types of dictionaries--prescriptive, descriptive and hybrids. Prescriptive dictionaries define words "correctly." They DO direct usage. Descriptive dictionaries define words as people use them and do not differentiate between correct and incorrect. They reflect usage. Hybrids use both prescriptive and descriptive definitions; the good ones explain the differences. Most newer dictionaries are hybrids. Witless, a professional gramarian and linguist who has never heard of the word "grammatician" but knows the real history of the word "ain't," as well as the meaning of the word "gullible" in both dictionaries and on message boards .
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TeamJoisey 3558 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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02-26-04, 02:35 PM (EST)
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32. "I'm not a hoax, I'm a planted hoax? HA!" |
Sleek, go away. You are not credible in the least. Your orginal "bootlist" was something anyone here could have written after reading the Internet for 3 hours. This latest tissue of lies is even more transparent and pathetic.a) The "memo" is poorly written. Were SEG behind the "hoax," the language would be more precise, and the tone would be a lot less rambling. The author would have a better grasp of punctuation. Rest assured, the entire thing would have be "lawyered" as we say in the newspaper biz. b) There has not been an undue flood of press releases on this subject flowing from SEG. This memo claims "hundreds of press releases" to radio and television outlets. Actual CBS and SEG press releases are also sent to newspapers. That has not happened. c) Were this real, SEG's sleek persona would reveal more and establish their own credibility. d) Were this real, SEG and CBS would not acknowledge that Survivornews.net has inside information, and would not attempt to blame Q for failure of their alleged disinformation campaign. e) Were it real, CBS and SEG would not reveal that Rob and Amber are not the final two. The producers have nothing to gain by "eliminating" two potential winners at this point. Suggesting that Rob and Amber will not win defies their own editing. I hesitate to even post this, because any more time spent on the pathetic fraud "Sleek28" is time better spent actually spoiling the show. These reality show contestants need a reality check!
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Acawap 184 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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02-26-04, 03:50 PM (EST)
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37. "sign me up, MB!" |
When I read the 'Rob and Amber are NOT the final two' part, I immediately thought of someone trying to cover their tracks. Like they revealed something that they didn't want to, something went wrong, and now retract it -- "I love you"... <silence>... "I mean, I don't LOVE you love you... I was just... uh... I don't love you, I don't even LIKE you!"So if the memo is true, take your money to Vegas and bet on Romber. And if it IS true, I want to apply for that job. I can't imagine getting paid to screw around all day reading Survivor spoilers and making up stuff (oh wait, that's what I do anyway... lol). Sounds like a pretty sweet job to me! So MB, Jiffy, and sleek28 group -- give me a call! I think I'd be perfect -- I've been around posting for awhile, and everybody loves me here... I'd make a GREAT hoax plant ;)
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Fweep 35 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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02-26-04, 06:01 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: Message from sleek" |
In the post it was said:"Many posters picked up on this information. The truth is that the big announcement was this memo, explaining the theory behind the plant, and to announce that Mark Burnett and SEG will be countering information that could lead to the final result being ruined." The key word here for me is the word "Memo". If this was truly the "memo" designed to show the spoiling community who they were, it was very poorly written and amateurish at best. If these people do work for SEG, then MB really needs to hire better people who can actually spell and use grammar correctly. I'm sure several of the spoiling sites, including this one have received press releases from SEG or have attended conferences where memos were passed out. I would be very interested to know how the professionalism of those memos compares against this one. This is clearly not a professional memo and I cannot fathom it being sanctioned by anyone affiliated with MB, CBS or SEG. I mean is this the type of writing they want on the front page of the NY Times? It really sounds like it was written by some "Cameraman". FWEEP
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IslandFever 205 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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02-26-04, 11:14 PM (EST)
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57. "No Way" |
Sleek is upset because #1 he was relegated to the dump and #2 no one bought his boot list. He had to do something to assuage his bruised ego and keep his name foremost on the boards. If he was who he claims to be then I think he would have been much more successful as a plant. We have had plants and/or hoaxes since day one. But the difference with them is that many of us believed them, such as the whole Neleh backwards editing. You had your 15 minutes Sleek, your time is up.
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speedyforme 228 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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02-26-04, 11:23 PM (EST)
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58. "RE: No Way" |
Neleh backwards editing? please expand!
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