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"Ep 4 Preview Vidcaps"
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1. "RE: Ep 4 Preview Vidcaps" |
And that isn't a typo. Rob C. definitely says Shammit. Must be his way of getting around the FCC, post-Janet. 
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I_AM_HE 6123 desperate attention whore postings
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02-13-04, 00:47 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Ep 4 Preview Vidcaps" |
looks like a mostly mental challenge - easy to see why chapera would lose"Well, Rob, I never thought I’d say this, but after watching this episode I’d have to say, no, you do not have “Stupid” written on your forehead. “Hypocritical, Ignorant, Confrontational, Homophobic, Obnoxious, Arrogant, Nauseating, Manipulative, Bully”, yes, but not “Stupid”. “Stupid” is written on your penis. In little, tiny letters." - dangerkitty, S4 Ep 6 Summary - RMMNW!!!
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02-13-04, 10:51 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Life Size Tetris" |
I just hope they are chewing on alot of those lemons they found. At least it might help their breath.
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02-13-04, 01:29 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Ep 4 Preview Vidcaps" |
THE I.C.We don't see enough of a completed cube to even guess who wins, but we do know who's stitting out. Chapera sits Princess Amba and the completely marginalized RobCesternino. More suggestion that he's going home? With those two sitting out, and both Big Tom and Robfadda carrying blocks, the directions are left up to Sue or Alicia. I imagine Alicia is hoisting blocks, so Sue is shouting directions. Looks bad for Chapera. Mogo-Mogo sits Shii-Ann, who bragged in Thailand about how good she is with puzzles. If she's so good with puzzles, and they got a sneak peek at this challenge already, why is she on the bench? We see Kathy Colby and Lex carrying blocks, so Dicque is giving directions. That sounds good for the Mogos. The only Saboga we see at all is Ethan. Rupert must be carrying. That leaves Jenna and Jerri. One of them is giving directions, which isn't great but probably better than listening to Sue.
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02-13-04, 02:32 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Ep 4 Preview Vidcaps" |
The only episode I watched with Jerri is when she tried to give directions to a blindfolded group. She sucks. And if Jenna can't yell at someone, she won't do well either. I doubt Saboga wins it outright. I agree, if Sue is shouting for Chapera, that is bad news for them. I'm also from Wisconsin, but most people here do not have as short of fuse, or delusions of grandure that Sue has. It does not look good. Sir Richard may not be that good at directions. He is always trying to appear clever. It may backfire. Obviously I do not have a favorite. I think they all are doomed. Odds-wise, I would say that Chapera comes in over confident and loses. But I have nothing but my gut to base that on. All I can say is that it will be cool to see everyone bump into each other HARD next week. I like a little physical confrontation! 
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02-13-04, 11:45 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Is this Day 9?" |
The normal cycle is a RC the day after TC. If they were planning to have the IC on Day9 and the TC that evening, the next RC would be Day 10.It's very possible that the left the IC set up on challenge beach rather than changing it and used the IC as the RC. The "pummeling" could refer to some sort of an IC where the tribes try to knock each other of of a balance beam type challenge we've seen so often in previous survivor series. 
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02-13-04, 02:21 PM (EST)
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23. "SOMA Cube Challenge" |
Ah, finally I have something useful!
This challenge is making a SOMA cube. Here is a description from http://users.ids.net/~salberg/soma/Soma.html:The Soma puzzle was a game marketed by Parker Brothers, Co. around 1970 that was based, in turn, upon an idea attributed to the mathematician Piet Hein. Its basis is the theorem that a solid cube composed of a volume of 27 smaller cubes can be decomposed into a group of 7 dissimilar pieces. There are 6 pieces made with 4 small cubes and 1 piece made of 3 small cubes, each of which is a unique configuration. The tribes will have to get the 7 three dimensional pieces and build a giant cube, probably in the area in front of their mats outlined in a white square. There are about 240 solutions, so the Survivor folks have painted the parts they want outside with the tribes' colors. Now there is only 1 correct way of assembling each cube. Like a previous challenge, perhaps one main player from each team yells at others with blindfolds who go out and get the pieces and bring them back to the white square. Then they must be assembled. Any search for "Soma cube" should show you their seven shapes. Here is another site:
http://web.inter.nl.net/users/C.Eggermont/Puzzels/Soma/ Shii Ann said she was good with puzzles last time. Saboga is exhausted and isn't working well together. Chapera slept under blankets and a tarp and had wine and the best shelter. Saboga is down 2 and Mogo is down 1. MB can't be wanting Chapera to win the next IC. Maybe MB will hide one of Chapera's puzzle pieces in the bushes where the person on the mat can't see it. If Saboga loses, Rupert might go, and MB can't want that. Or, could they paint one of the tribe's cubes so it can't work? Ah, there is a nice option. That tribe would just look stupid and no one would suspect the puzzle was rigged. Very easy to do since they are putting colors on the outside, so there is only one way (if any) to assemble each set of seven puzzle pieces into a cube. Maybe we can analyze the three matching pieces for each tribe later. Something to think about.
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katethegreat 207 desperate attention whore postings
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02-14-04, 07:34 AM (EST)
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28. "RE: SOMA Cube Challenge" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-14-04 AT 07:36 AM (EST)Good catch. I also noticed something odd, after reading this thread, and the painted outside making only one solution work instead of 240. Cap 7 - those three pices are not identical. The red and green piece are L's when facing them, with painted side toward you. The yellow is a backwards L (like this . . . _| ), anyway . . . So is the puzzle rigged??? Is yellow's L shape the right way or the wrong way? As to timing, I don't think they are very careful about not sitting out two in a row from IC to RC. (I have no evidence for that conclusion; we should try to check that out.) So Amber sitting out, IMO, does not rule out RC. However, I still think it is IC. But what day is it on? Do they leave this set up for three days? Do they have the IC immediately following Jenna's departure, then edit it in as later?
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02-14-04, 11:49 AM (EST)
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32. "RE: SOMA Cube Challenge" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-14-04 AT 11:51 AM (EST)You can watch him trip (over and over and over) on the CBS site. It's 7 seconds into the video preview. If you watch it in Real One, you can pause it, change the size, etc. It's one of the Yellow L-shaped game pieces. The top is bright yellow. The back is dull colored. Here's a cap from the online preview that is a bit clearer, if smaller.
 It makes sense. You have the Green M&Ms on the right and the Yellow Boogers in the middle. Apparently, after Colby dropped off his Green piece, he drifted into the Yellow assembly zone, instead of heading straight back into the collection area. Edited to add, the VO for the preview after E3 had Jeff saying, "Ethan throws it on Colby," during that part of the clip. ---
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02-15-04, 08:50 AM (EST)
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39. "probably not SOMA" |
I too, thought this might be a SOMA puzzle when I first saw last week's episode, but in studying the vidcaps, I'm beginning to think it's not exactly so.First, as others have already mentioned, there are (at least) 9 pieces, rather than the traditional 7. But even with the extra pieces, there are 3 pieces in the traditional 7 that are multi-level. As I scan vidcap #11, I see at least 7 groups of pieces that are single-level. I thought at first that perhaps the puzzle might be a single-level puzzle, but vidcap #8 seems to show a two-level piece, and #20 confirms this, showing Lex with what clearly must be a two-level piece. But this could be the same piece, and it's the only two-level one I can see. I'm looking for the SOMA piece dubbed #7 (a two-level, in which a center block has one block attatched to each dimentional direction, if that makes sense), but I cannot find it. Furthermore, in vidcap#7, the background pieces (behind the bushes) appear to be composed of *5* mini blocks, and there is no such SOMA piece (all have four, except piece 1, which has only 3). This might be a "red-herring" that must be discarded, except it would be a pretty obvious one, considering it has 4 mini-blocks in a row, making it unable to fit within a 3x3 cube. Other posters have also noted the two different "L" shapes; there is only one such piece in SOMA. And it cannot be true that the extra L is a "red-herring" that must be discarded to solve the puzzle: a SOMA cube can be solved more easily with 2 L-shaped blocks than with the original 7 SOMA pieces; and I doubt if the challenge would be to form a cube with just any 7 pieces. So my guess? I think they have to use all 9 (or however many there are) pieces, and I think the drawings on the pieces are essential to the puzzle--it will form a picture of some kind. But I don't have an answer to how the multi-level piece(s) would work into that puzzle.
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02-14-04, 05:19 PM (EST)
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36. "Observations:" |
From some of the discussion above...some think that they will need to make a cube from 7 of the pieces. However, there are more than the 9 clusters seen in this pic:
I think this pic also shows us that there are far more than the 27 pieces from the above shot: 
As you can see there are pieces in the bushes and you can go back up and see that there are 3-4 more groups in the bushes that are not in the overview shot. So, I think it will be something similar to what has been discussed but using more pieces. 
From the above pic looks like Saboga gets a 2 piece lead over Chapera early on!
 
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02-15-04, 10:49 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: Ep 4 Preview Vidcaps" |
Caps 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 show pretty clearly several facades and lead to what they are building. A cube that has the picture of each tribes symbol on it. It is the same symbol that has been on the rafts, mats, flags, opening credits, banners, you name it. It is all over S8. Here are pics of each:Symbol  Raft  Tarp  Each tribe  Flag  At challenge  Mats  
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02-15-04, 11:27 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: Ep 4 Preview Vidcaps" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-15-04 AT 11:29 PM (EST)Great detective work, katie! (have I told you lately that you. simply. rock!?) I'm not sure it's a "cube" though. See my thoughts re: SOMA above. Also, the design doesn't look like it would fit on a 3x3x3 cube--the pieces in the vidcaps that show a 3-block side don't show enough of a circle to form the complete edge of the design. And there aren't enough mini blocks to make a 4x4x4 cube (that'd require 64, and most guesses have the number of pieces at 9, which would make around 35). I'm still thinking that most of the puzzle is one-level, although now that I've put in the number of mini-blocks, it just occured to me that it could be a 3x3x4 structure. That would also allow for the 5-block piece (with four in a row) that is seen behind the bushes in pic 7, coupled with the shown 3-block piece, would make exactly 36, if there were nine pieces. ETA: now that I think some more, I'm also not happy with a 3x3x4 design, because no face would be large enough (the largest being 3x4) to hold the circle design as shown on some of the pieces.  <==flashed by J_Loaf
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02-16-04, 09:06 AM (EST)
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46. "RE: Ep 4 Preview Vidcaps" |
First of all, there is a light side and a dark side for the patterns:
In the pic above we see 3 left handed L's each with the light side coloring, and 3 right handed L's with the dark side coloring. We also see 3 T's with the light side on the faces and the dark side on the small end facing us. It also looks like there are some more L shaped pieces directly behind the bushes. Take note of the circle surrounding the logo. The left handed L and the T have the same dark green stripe surrounded by a light green fringe. The dark side blocks have just a solid light green circle. 
In this picture we see a different angle of the T pieces, notice the L's are the same as the pic above. But here on the top of the green T we have an even lighter side with a solid dark green circle, therefore it must be painted on both ends with dark on the opposite end. Here and in the above pic, the L's also are painted on the small top piece, from this angle looks to be solid color. Now we can also look through the bushes and see yet another light side piece (looks almost like a C), yet the circle is made up of light green surrounded by dark green. 
In this pic we see 3 small L's each with dark side coloring on the face and what looks like solid coloring on the top. 
3 more L's, but green and red are left handed and the yellow is right handed. But the green one is what is the lightest side, hard to determine if red is light or lightest, and yellow is the light side. All other exposed faces are not painted, but possibly the back face is. Looking through the bushes you can see an offset T showing the yellow lightest side and solid on the small face. So as a recap using green since we get to see more faces of it: 1. Dark background/circle solid light.
2. Medium background/circle dark with light trim.
3. Light background/circle solid dark
4. Solid dark
5. Solid light It's possible for this to be a cube, I am going to try to count the actual number of cubes and get back later on that. If it is a cube, then one symbol on top, one on each opposite end with a solid one each opposite end and nothing on the bottom. That's my best guess based on the caps.
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02-16-04, 10:30 AM (EST)
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50. "Cube inventory" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-16-04 AT 01:12 PM (EST)Ok, here is what I can see/count/confirm from the vidcaps: 4 big L's at 4 cubes each= 16 cubes
2 regular T's at 4 cubes each= 8 cubes
1 small L at 3 cubes= 3 cubes
1 zee at 4 cubes= 4 cubes
1 long T at 5 cubes= 5 cubes
1 flat corner at 5 cubes= 5 cubes
1 pronged corner at 4 cubes= 4 cubes
1 zee with projection at 5 cubes= 5 cubes
1 C at 5 cubes= 5 cubes That gives us a total of 55 cubes. If there are 2 shapes that I can't detect 1 at 5 cubes and 1 at 4 cubes then it totals 64 and would mean that the overall cube that they must build would be 4 x 4 x 4. The largest piece with a 4 cube base is the long T shown in cap 7 (look through the bushes):
So like I said above, I think there are 3 patterned sides, and 2 solid sides with the bottom having no color. It also appears to me that Chapera is very much behind the other two tribes, and this is definately for immunity, we can see the II on the podium near Jeff. ETA: Just for the record in Thailand when they did this challenge, they were handcuffed to their loved ones and didn't have to go far to get pieces, were not blindfold, and the finished cube was 3 x 3 x 3.
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02-16-04, 04:48 PM (EST)
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61. "RE: Another thought" |
Wow, KOB, that's a pretty extensive analysis. Nice work!So here's my thought - I don't think they're building cubes. This just seems like it would be way too complex for the tribe to do.
In pic 03 we see a nice overhead view of the area they're working in. There's a square area marked in the sand right next to each tribe's logo. I'm certain they need to assemble their pieces in regular puzzle style to create their logos. Now, maybe there are four versions of the logos and they need to create each kind. We see different color/shading on the pieces in the other pictures, so that's why I say that. The final strike against cube building is my assumption that the callers must sit on the towers next to each puzzle assembly area. If they were to build cubes, the callers would need to be able to move around the building area to see what each side looks like. -BbB 
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02-16-04, 05:41 PM (EST)
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63. "RE: Another thought" |
Guh! I hadn't thought of that scenario. I'm starting to feel sorry for these people.
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49. "RE: Rob's finger" |
"It was actually in Ep2, clearly shown when he was trying to start the fire." Ah...so it was. The bandage wasn't there after the reward challenge, but in this shot, supposedly back in camp, right after the reward challenge, it was there. 
And it's a different bandage than shown in the night shot... I guess it's just another example of the out-of-sequence editing. And obviously, the injury was too mundane to make the final editing...  
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02-16-04, 05:45 PM (EST)
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64. "RE: Rob's finger" |
MAGIC FINGERS!Spoilers please skip this one. I am just trying to help another newbie! I also had trouble getting a signature picture. Mine still isn't that great. But I was able to come up with a temporary one for you if you would like. Do you like this?
 If so, click on the User button above the list of spoiler threads. Then click on Modify your Profiles and..., Submit. Then at the bottom of the profile update is a place to put your signature. You have to have the picture / file available on the web for that. I already uploaded this one for you. The address is:
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You can use your mouse and highlight this address. Right click and copy, then go into User, etc. Right click and paste the address. Be sure to DELETE ALL SPACES I had to add to the address so you could read the address. If you don't like it, that is OK. Good luck to you! 
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