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"*** S8 - EP2 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Before 12:00 EST, please use this thread or the Preview Vidcap thread to discuss tonight's episode ..................

SurvivorBlows.com provides this thread as a service to two groups:

1) People who want to post and read about the episode as it is being telecast across the various time zones. If you can't wait for the show to appear in your time zone, read the 'East Coast Update Thread' for an on-the-fly commentary.

2) Those people who want to access other posts on the Spoiler board but do not want to see spoilers before the show is telecast in their timezone.

Please do not post any commentary
about the episodes as they are telecast
in threads other than the ones mentioned
at the start of this post. Thanks

Everyone is welcome to post on this thread!
It's like Spoilers, Fanatics, and Bashers all in one!

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Posting Early Due to Weather Troubl... IceCat 02-05-04 1
   RE: Posting Early Due to Weather Tr... SurvivaBear 02-05-04 2
 RE: *** S8 - EP2 East Coast Update ... ExInterper 02-05-04 3
   RE: *** S8 - EP2 East Coast Update ... crayZoZ 02-05-04 72
 Excited! volsfan 02-05-04 4
   RE: Excited! I_AM_HE 02-05-04 5
       RE: Excited! volsfan 02-05-04 8
       RE: Excited! udg 02-06-04 92
 RE: *** S8 - EP2 East Coast Update ... Blow by Blow 02-05-04 6
 On ET Loree 02-05-04 7
   RE: On ET volsfan 02-05-04 9
   RE: On ET Blow by Blow 02-05-04 10
       RE: On ET I_AM_HE 02-05-04 11
           RE: On ET Blow by Blow 02-05-04 12
           RE: On ET volsfan 02-05-04 13
 Previously on Survivor.... Loree 02-05-04 14
 Up First: volsfan 02-05-04 15
   which water Blow by Blow 02-05-04 16
       RE: which water volsfan 02-05-04 32
 Mogo Mogo volsfan 02-05-04 17
 Colby volsfan 02-05-04 18
   RE: Colby Loree 02-05-04 25
 Reward Challenge volsfan 02-05-04 19
   RE: Reward Challenge Blow by Blow 02-05-04 20
       RE: Reward Challenge volsfan 02-05-04 23
 Reward volsfan 02-05-04 21
   RE: Reward Blow by Blow 02-05-04 22
       RE: Reward speedyforme 02-05-04 27
   RE: Reward udg 02-06-04 93
 RE: *** S8 - EP2 East Coast Update ... Jims02 02-05-04 24
 RE: *** S8 - EP2 East Coast Update ... volsfan 02-05-04 26
 I knew they'd get food eventually..... IceCat 02-05-04 28
   RE: I knew they'd get food eventual... SurvivorBlows 02-05-04 33
 Rob C. volsfan 02-05-04 29
 Jenna And Ethan volsfan 02-05-04 30
 Mogo Mogo volsfan 02-05-04 31
 Mogo...morning Day 5 volsfan 02-05-04 34
 Rudy volsfan 02-05-04 35
   RE: Rudy Puffy 02-05-04 36
       RE: Rudy volsfan 02-05-04 59
 IC volsfan 02-05-04 37
 Jenna L is frikkin useless... IceCat 02-05-04 38
   RE: Jenna L is frikkin useless... speedyforme 02-05-04 42
       RE: Jenna L is frikkin useless... Loree 02-05-04 43
 Apprentice starting... SurvivorBlows 02-05-04 39
   Canadian TV Schedule... IceCat 02-05-04 61
       RE: Canadian TV Schedule... frisky 02-05-04 66
 Next segment... volsfan 02-05-04 40
 Geez, Saboga Jims02 02-05-04 41
 FYI - No Vidcaps Until Midnight (Ea... Bungler 02-05-04 44
   RE: FYI - No Vidcaps Until Midnight... SurvivorBlows 02-05-04 48
   RE: FYI - No Vidcaps Until Midnight... udg 02-06-04 94
 Fishing volsfan 02-05-04 45
   RE: Fishing SurvivorBlows 02-05-04 49
 Ethan Loree 02-05-04 46
 anyone else... J Slice 02-05-04 47
   RE: anyone else... volsfan 02-05-04 51
       Excuse me..... moonbaby 02-05-04 64
           RE: Excuse me..... volsfan 02-05-04 68
   RE: anyone else... ADKer 02-06-04 103
 Tribal Council Votes volsfan 02-05-04 50
   RE: Tribal Council Votes speedyforme 02-05-04 53
       RE: Tribal Council Votes udg 02-06-04 95
   FYI... volsfan 02-05-04 54
 RE: *** S8 - EP2 East Coast Update ... Kokoro 02-05-04 52
   RE: *** S8 - EP2 East Coast Update ... Loree 02-05-04 55
   RE: *** S8 - EP2 East Coast Update ... volsfan 02-05-04 56
   Disagree AyaK 02-05-04 58
       RE: Disagree Kokoro 02-05-04 65
           RE: Disagree udg 02-06-04 96
               RE: Disagree Brownroach 02-06-04 101
 So Rupert... IceCat 02-05-04 57
   RE: So Rupert... speedyforme 02-05-04 60
   RE: So Rupert... SurvivorBlows 02-05-04 62
       Is there an implied betrayal, thoug... IceCat 02-05-04 63
           RE: Is there an implied betrayal, t... SurvivorBlows 02-05-04 67
               RE: Is there an implied betrayal, t... volsfan 02-05-04 69
               Rupert is the betrayor not Ethan... IceCat 02-05-04 70
                   RE: Rupert is the betrayor not Etha... SurvivorBlows 02-05-04 73
                       I suppose it's the fact... IceCat 02-05-04 79
                           Senile denial, my foot Round Robin 02-06-04 89
                               Watch his final words... IceCat 02-06-04 90
                               RE: Senile denial, my foot Loree 02-06-04 102
                       Girls are betrayers? Angelfood 02-05-04 80
                           RE: Girls are betrayers? Loree 02-05-04 81
                               RE: Girls are betrayers? true 02-05-04 87
 Rob C's Money Quote sweetpea 02-05-04 71
   bloody hell I_AM_HE 02-05-04 74
       HE! moonbaby 02-05-04 75
       RE: bloody hell SurvivorBlows 02-05-04 76
           RE: bloody hell volsfan 02-05-04 78
           RE: bloody hell I_AM_HE 02-05-04 82
           RE: bloody hell udg 02-06-04 97
               RE: bloody hell volsfan 02-06-04 100
 I just can't wait... PhoenixMons 02-05-04 77
   RE: I just can't wait... Loree 02-05-04 84
   You suck! udg 02-06-04 98
 Other good moments Angelfood 02-05-04 83
   RE: Other good moments Loree 02-05-04 85
   RE: Other good moments mookiemeister 02-06-04 88
   RE: Other good moments udg 02-06-04 99
 Mixed up scenes? Loree 02-05-04 86
   RE: Mixed up scenes? Get Bent 02-06-04 91

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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings
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02-05-04, 06:25 PM (EST)
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1. "Posting Early Due to Weather Trouble...."
Took me ten minutes to post this...

Weather here is freezing rain so cable system is cranky...

Posting whilst still able...

May not be here later...

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2. "RE: Posting Early Due to Weather Trouble...."
Hope all stays well with you. I am always glad when you get this thread up early, anyway. It starts the excitement biulding.
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3. "RE: *** S8 - EP2 East Coast Update Thread ***"
You know what makes me sad? I won't be able to post during the episode for the second time in a week!

Stupid emergency law review meetings.

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72. "RE: *** S8 - EP2 East Coast Update Thread ***"
The worst possible news for me and others who really enjoy your running commentary.

A law review meeting mmmmm yes sounds really exciting

Looking forward to your return

Cheers
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02-05-04, 06:53 PM (EST)
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4. "Excited!"
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LAST EDITED ON 02-05-04 AT 06:55 PM (EST)

Well, we are having heavy rain with flash flood watches and warnings! If I can be online, I will be here!

I'M SO EXCITED!

Why do I suddenly feel the urge to break out in song?

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5. "RE: Excited!"
you have the spontaneous singing gene. you'll have to come with us.
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8. "RE: Excited!"
I can do it!
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92. "RE: Excited!"
singing gene

My husband has that gene. Drives.Me.Freaking.Nuts.

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6. "RE: *** S8 - EP2 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Yippity dippity doo.

It was so great last season when the online feed was working fine, but it's been kaput for me since about mid-way through last season. Argh.

So I'll be sitting here waiting until 9pm Pacific to watch it on tape. Y'all suck!

-BbB

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7. "On ET"
Jeff P was on ET and he said we see the first betrayal tonight and it hurts. Sounds like Rupert betraying Rudy to me.
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9. "RE: On ET"
LAST EDITED ON 02-05-04 AT 07:51 PM (EST)

Woo Hoo! Now I am even more excited.

Somebody stop me...I can't sit still!

ETA: I can't wait to hear my favorite words...Previously on Survivor!

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10. "RE: On ET"
Ooh yeah!!! Better yet, Jerri screws over Jenna L. That'd be great television.

-BbB

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11. "RE: On ET"
i think the large majority of the population cheering for jerri is one of the signs of the apocalypse
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12. "RE: On ET"
No, it's just a sign that people are very willing to have their feelings manipulated by mass media. It's fantastic!

Maybe I'll start a Jerri Love thread.

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13. "RE: On ET"
Along with Johnny Fairplay appearing on ASS as well!
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14. "Previously on Survivor...."
Oh yes, I love that phrase. It's on....
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15. "Up First:"
Rupert talks about not having fire and shows them catching rain water in the pot! WOO HOO...at least they thought of that!

Saboga talking about their discomfort and Rudy is drinking the water! He is drinking a lot of it too!

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16. "which water"
The rainwater or the wellwater?
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32. "RE: which water"
Well water!
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17. "Mogo Mogo"
Lex finally thinks to drink the rain water. They are looking like animals never had anything to drink before.

Dique is nekkid! WOO HOO for bonus points!

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18. "Colby"
Says he ain't going nekkid !
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25. "RE: Colby"
It was funny watching Colby's eyes when Rich is standing there naked. Colby doesn't know where to look. LOL!
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19. "Reward Challenge"
sitting out are Tom and Jenna M.
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20. "RE: Reward Challenge"
And this is the ladder building event, right?
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23. "RE: Reward Challenge"
Yeah it is the ladder event
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21. "Reward"
All five swim out first...then four have to go...then three and so on..

Sabogo and Mogo get to second run first then Mogo chapera bringing up the rear!

Next round, Saboga has third log then Mogo with chapera last still...

Next round, saboga with big lead...mogo mogo is second with chapera last

Ehan in the water for last lap then rob m.!

Ethan wins it for Saboga!

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22. "RE: Reward"
I can't believe no one's helping you out Vols... What's the reward?
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27. "RE: Reward"
i ehard it was BLANKETS

BUT

they can trade that in for a POT, with a map to a clue to the key that is missing on their crate....and they get flint as well, BUT everyone gets it if they choose to, so Saboga chose the pot, so technically, everyone wins


so i guess thats how they get fire

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93. "RE: Reward"
Saboga chooses to trade their blankets for Fire for everyone. And, Rupert has another generosity-gasm.

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24. "RE: *** S8 - EP2 East Coast Update Thread ***"
LAST EDITED ON 02-05-04 AT 08:15 PM (EST)

YAY! Saboga finally wins one!

I'm glad I picked them for RC this week.

I watch Survivor selfishly

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26. "RE: *** S8 - EP2 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Saboga had two options as winners. They could take blankets and something else I missed it. OR

They could take their crate (which everyone gets) with a pot, flint and a clue to where the first key to the crate is (there are three locks). If Sabogo picks the crate and pots everyone gets them...that is what they choose so everyone has flint to make firee! Also, there is rice in the crate!

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28. "I knew they'd get food eventually..."
The last 4 weeks of S2 with its 'cast of the living dead' didn't make for good TV!
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33. "RE: I knew they'd get food eventually..."
"No Food!" (until they get enough keys to open the crate...)

"No fire!" (until after Day 3...)

Everything is in the fine print with Burnett...

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29. "Rob C."
says he thinks Tina is a phony and that he (Rob C.) doesn't have a million dollars...YET!

Tom is trying to build fire and Alicia wants to try because she thinks she can build fire! Rob M. and Tom are not happy...however they do build fire with help from her! Chapera has fire!

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30. "Jenna And Ethan"
Ethan and Jenna are discussing the fact that he (Ethan) is a huge target. Jenna is callin all the shots (we are to believe)!
They all gather round the site and they get fire!
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31. "Mogo Mogo"
Don't get fire before rain sets in. However they did try! Kathy and Shii Ann are talkin about not getting the fire made and it is night and they are freezing! Commercial!
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34. "Mogo...morning Day 5"
They build fire with help of Kathy! Kathy is soooo excited! Richard is reading the clue for the lock of the crate. They go looking in a small cave and on a rock cliff. Richard finds the key. WOW...Fire and a key in a manner of minutes. Richard is saying that is all nothing..has nothing to do with the game!
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35. "Rudy"
Rudy has something wrong with his feet and he is having trouble standing..off to immunity challenge
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36. "RE: Rudy"
LAST EDITED ON 02-05-04 AT 08:35 PM (EST)

Just want you to know how much I appreciate you doing this each week. Being a left-coaster, I so look forward to the East Coast Update Thresd.

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59. "RE: Rudy"
Thank you so much Puffy...I appreciate the nice words!
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37. "IC"
Just as we thought...the sunken boat race.

Sittin out are Alicia and Shii Ann..

The race starts on the platforms and it is raining...14 crates are in the boats and have to remove one by one. pull boat to platform...turn boat over and row to shore.

Rupert, Ethan, Tom, Rob M and Lex and Richard seem to be doing the most work.

Saboga's boat up first! Going back to platform.

Rob C. and Tom turn boat over in the water. Richard follows

Chapera now in second place and Mogo in last place. Chapera flipping boat! Saboga is bailing water rather than turning it over!

Mogo Got their boat to platform and flipped! Saboga still dippin water!

Chapera is ahead with Mogo in secodn...both are rowing to shore.

Saboga is still at platform! Mogo takin on water big time..

Chapera has it all together and the other two are struggling big time.

Chapera wins immunity as first team across....Mogo second to cross and wins immunity..

Saboga still in water!

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38. "Jenna L is frikkin useless..."
... but she'll be the first to beak about Rudy...
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42. "RE: Jenna L is frikkin useless..."
poor Saboga, first out but last to leave...they need to work as a team...

wow, Chapera is a force to be reckong with...

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43. "RE: Jenna L is frikkin useless..."
Funny they are the team without a former winner. Yet they are the best team when it comes to team work.
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39. "Apprentice starting..."
...time to start those VCR's folks
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61. "Canadian TV Schedule..."
I Global TV!

They have the Canadian rights for Friends, Survivor, and the Apprentice so they schedule as follows:

7:15 to 8:00 supersized 'Friends'

8:00 to 9:00 'Survivor'

9:00 to 10:15 supersized 'The Apprentice'

No VCR required!

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66. "RE: Canadian TV Schedule..."
Darn. I wish I knew that before I missed the first 15 minutes of Apprentice. Thanks, IceCat! I'll make sure I watch Global next time.


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40. "Next segment..."
Unless something major happens, I will not do a play by play but I will tell you the votes.
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41. "Geez, Saboga"
I was beginning to worry about the boot, until their genius strategy to bail out the water like that.

Kudos to Chapera. What an ASS whomping.

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44. "FYI - No Vidcaps Until Midnight (Eastern)"
Hey all... don't forget I'm on the west coast now. So I won't be able to cap the preview until it airs here in California. If you see anybody getting antsy or impatient, let 'em know I'll be here with caps ASAP, unless SB or somebody else brilliant does 'em first.
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48. "RE: FYI - No Vidcaps Until Midnight (Eastern)"
Thanks Bung, I'll try and get to them once the show ends here on the East Coast
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94. "RE: FYI - No Vidcaps Until Midnight (Eastern)"
Thank you, Bungler!

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45. "Fishing"
Ethan fished for some time...he comes to shore...Rupert goes fishing and in 5 mins...they have a fish!
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49. "RE: Fishing"
If I were the conspiracy type, I'd think that one of the camera crew threw a fish in into the water after Rupert went in, LOL
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46. "Ethan"
Interesting that Ethan wins the Africa Survivor where there was no water. Now he can't fish and can't find his niche.
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47. "anyone else..."
feel like kicking Ethan's candyass?

he's really learned how to whine since Africa, hasn't he?


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51. "RE: anyone else..."
No, I wanna kick Jenna L.'s ass...who died and made her god?
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64. "Excuse me....."
am I in the right line to kick Jenna L's ass?

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68. "RE: Excuse me....."
YES...but you will have to seconds...I get the first whack!
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103. "RE: anyone else..."
AS long as he does it with his shirt off ... its fine by me
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50. "Tribal Council Votes"
VOTES:

votes shown when voting:
Ethan votes Rudy
Rupert votes Ethan

Jiffy to tally the votes:
1st vote: Rudy
2nd vote: Ethan
3rd vote: Ethan
4th vote: Rudy
5th vote: Rudy

Bye Bye Rudy!

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53. "RE: Tribal Council Votes"
a very emotional tribal council

JERRI crying over Rudy

Jeff making some HUGE statement over Rudy's ouster and how HOW COULD YOU NOT LOVE A 75 year old man, HANGING OUT WITH KIDS 1/3 of his age etc...

at least they get to take their torches

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95. "RE: Tribal Council Votes"
HOW COULD YOU NOT LOVE A 75 year old man, HANGING OUT WITH KIDS 1/3 of his age etc...

I think there's a Michael Jackson joke in there somewhere...

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54. "FYI..."
It is Richard that goes up against the shark next week!
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52. "RE: *** S8 - EP2 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Someone buy Ethan a brain. This was the perfect chance to take out the ever useless, cockier by the day Jenna. I guess it's not so easy for him when three other people aren't playing the game for him.

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55. "RE: *** S8 - EP2 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Ethan does seem kind of lost without someone to tell him what to do, doesn't he?

Oooh! Rudy is going to send his friends after the girls for voting again him.

And Rupert and Jerri go up against each other. That should be interesting.

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56. "RE: *** S8 - EP2 East Coast Update Thread ***"
That goes without saying doesn't it?
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58. "Disagree"
Hi, Kokoro! I just dropped in to see how the show went. Uh, HOW would he take out Jenna? In the first episode, he tried to get Rupert and Rudy to vote out Jenna. They wouldn't. How would he swing their vote now?

Instead, Ethan apparently made a deal with Jenna and Jerri to vote out Rudy. Now, without Rudy, Rupert is as much of an outcast as Ethan is. If they lose a third challenge, he can target Jenna.

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65. "RE: Disagree"
LAST EDITED ON 02-05-04 AT 09:20 PM (EST)

He should've at least tried to make a last minute play for Rupert's morality. It seems like an easy point to catch him on. All he had to say was, "Look Rupert, you've promised to be loyal to Rudy. I can help you save him if you'll both vote for Jenna." Preferrably, this conversation would've taken place in front of Rudy, who would also be finding out at this point that Jenna and Jerri intend to vote him out. Looking at who Rupert is and how he presents himself, and adding in Ethan's strength (ie. It would be dumb to try to turn this strategy back on him and vote him out when they need him for challenges) how would he possibly get out of doing this (without looking like the scum of the earth)?

Also, Rudy is one of the biggest sheep ever. Just having him around guarantees a free vote. I'd protect him at all costs.

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96. "RE: Disagree"
I agree, but I think that Rupert knew that Rudy needed to go. The foot thing isn't going to help them out any in the challenges. He threw is vote to honor his alliance, but he allowed the Rudy vote, because he believed it to be best for the tribe. I suspect that he and Ethan did discuss voting out one of the girls instead.

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101. "RE: Disagree"
My thoughts exactly, udg. Rupert didn't want to stop the others from voting Rudy out, but since his vote wasn't needed he preferred to show his allegiance.


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57. "So Rupert..."
... did it not occur to you that it might be a good idea to maybe get Ethan on your side and that would be a better way to help your ally Rudy?

So now you are without an alliance Rupert...

Going back to that old 'provider for for the tribe' strategy?

Yeah... it worked so well last time, didn't it?!?

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60. "RE: So Rupert..."
MAN,

Rupert is alone, probably frustrated....

Jerri, NOOOO keep at your nice self...dont go back to that evil demon!!

Chapera was NON-EXISTENT this episode...weird...but at least i got to see more of MOGO MOGO

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62. "RE: So Rupert..."
If I'm Ethan, I'd probably have been pretty confident that Rudy was going -- heck, Jenna TC's comments made it pretty clear Ethan wasn't going, I doubt it was unclear before then.

...so working off of that premise -- that Ethan's already pretty sure he's NOT GOING, making an alliance that involves keeping Rudy into your tribe's final three (assuming it gets that far) is a recipe for continuing failure.

The bottom line is that now Rudy is gone, and Ethan STILL has the option of Rupert as an ally -- and Rupert still has the option Ethan as an ally.

Maybe its just me, but it was pretty clear to me that Rupert was saying he was agreeable to the idea of Rudy going -- he knew it was necessary for the long-term health of the tribe -- but couldn't break his alliance with him and vote for him

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63. "Is there an implied betrayal, though?"
Rupert knew that Rudy was targeted and knew that he was going if Ethan voted with the women. Rupert appears to have lead Rudy to the slaughter but refused to bloody his own hands.

Not much of an alliance methinks.

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67. "RE: Is there an implied betrayal, though?"
LAST EDITED ON 02-05-04 AT 09:29 PM (EST)


>Not much of an alliance methinks.

Not much of case methinks you have.

"Implied betrayal" -- that's the best you can come up with?

If Ethan had any clue that Jenna/Jerri were thinking of booting the injured 75-year-old man who'd been drinking bad water for six days and barely able to walk around the island (what an out-of-left-field idea that musta been!) then he would have been a fool to ally into a three-person alliance where one of the three people was the same above previously mentioned enormous liability.

Assuming the next challenge involved any type of running, keeping Rudy around would have virtually assured Ethan of being back at TC in another three days... and then, pending a merge, six more days later

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69. "RE: Is there an implied betrayal, though?"
Well said!
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70. "Rupert is the betrayor not Ethan..."
Rupert sold Rudy down the river...

Jenna could just as easily lose the next competition for them as Rudy might so Rupert's best choice for personal gain would have been to keep his alliance intact.

Rupert could have even bettered his position by extending an offer to Ethan. Rupert could have made strong allies out of Rudy and Ethan and picked off the other two before the merge.

Judging by Rudy's parting words, Rupert kept Rudy entirely in the dark about Jenna and Jerri's intentions. He let Rudy think that Ethan was next to go and let Rudy take one right in the back.

I think the 'lamb to slaughter' analogy is quite apt.

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73. "RE: Rupert is the betrayor not Ethan..."
Ice, why are you so sure Rupert DIDN'T approach Ethan -- and Ethan simply said no.

...how many times have we made comments like this after a vote only to later discover someone DID talk to someone but because it had no impact on the end result, it didn't get into the editing? I'm not Rupert's biggest fan, but I think you're really coming too harsh on him for this -- I think "mercy killing" is more accurate than "lamb to the slaughter"

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79. "I suppose it's the fact..."
... that Rudy was evidently surprised by Jerri and Jenna's votes that has me suspicious. But then that could be explained as just another patented Rudy 'I dunno' moment. Rupert could have very well explained the whole situation to Rudy and Rudy might have just gone into some sort of senile denial moment.

I still suspect Rupert lead Rudy into an ambush, though. Maybe that ultimately could be seen as a form of 'mercy' too... at least he didn't see it coming.

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89. "Senile denial, my foot"
Rudy's dumb like a fox. I'll guaran-damn-tee you that he KNEW he was going. They couldn't edit it like that without spoiling the boot, but I promise you Rudy knew he was going. You don't live 75 years and survive 20+ years as a SEAL without having the ability to figure out what is going on, and though somebody might have told Rudy a fib or 2 or at least not told him the whole truth, the old man probably knew before they ever showed up at TC that he was a goner.
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90. "Watch his final words..."
He looks pretty pissed off...

He started the TC looking quite happy...

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102. "RE: Senile denial, my foot"
They asked Rudy on The Early Show if he was surprised. He said he was surprised. He did not think he was going. He was under the impression Ethan was being voted out. He said he was angry at the girls at that moment and said some things. But he is not angry anymore. He said he understands they had to vote him out because he was holding them back. And he was touched by the tears when he left and he has to go and thank Jeff for the kind words.
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80. "Girls are betrayers?"
I agree. We can't make too many conclusions here.
I don't think Rupe is the strongest strategist, but in S7, after the merge, the yahoo extra scenes revealed that Rupe DID try to get Andrew, T, RyanO, into alliance, & Andrew answered too late. So, I bet it happened again.

I got the feeling from Rudy's last comments, that J&J told him they were voting for Ethan 2 hours before T.C., and they betrayed him. I'll watch again.

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81. "RE: Girls are betrayers?"
Watching Rupert sitting in the grass talking about how hard it was on HIM. I think he realized Rudy had to go to save the tribe from extinction. But Rupert didn't want to betray his word to Rudy. So he let everyone else do it without warning Rudy it was coming.
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87. "RE: Girls are betrayers?"

Rupert screwed over Rudy the minute he opened his big mouth, and told Jenna/Jerri that the two of them had a pact.

Jenna would have remained on her winners witch hunt, had it not been in her best interest to break up the Rupert/Rudy twosome. If they'd have voted out Ethan with the knowledge that it would be a 2-2 tie the next time they went to TC, it would have been moronic. (and with a gimpy RUdy, it would most likely be 3 days later)

Now Jenna probably thinks she has Ethan in her back pocket, and in her debt. She and Jerri can use either one of them to gang up on the other next time.

Rupert should have kept his big mouth shut about his alliance with Rudy.

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71. "Rob C's Money Quote"
Rob C's confessional when he was talking about Tina being booted first and how happy he was that the winners were being targeted and then he said "I don't have a million dollars----yet!"

This just leaped out at me as possibly being our million dollar quote. If all of our "spoiler" lists weren't proclaiming Boston Rob as final two, I would be inclined to think maybe Rob C. instead.

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74. "bloody hell"
i'm starting to like Jerri
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75. "HE!"
SNAP OUT OF IT!

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76. "RE: bloody hell"
>i'm starting to like Jerri

Don't worry, it's been six days -- she's not a good enough actress to be able to keep playing this role much longer

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78. "RE: bloody hell"
She has Jenna L. to do her b*tchin for her! Can Jenna L. be any more of a loser and whine as much as she is! WOWSA!
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82. "RE: bloody hell"
thank you webby, you have given me hope that this too shall pass
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97. "RE: bloody hell"
That's one thing that Jeff said in his interviews - a lot of people try to take on a different strategy this time around, but when the heat is on, the b****es all turn out to be b****es after all.

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100. "RE: bloody hell"
Isn't that the way it always is?


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77. "I just can't wait..."
for 12 EST to say how much the Robfaddah kicked butt tonight. He was the one who tipped over the boat underwater (or started it anyway) with 4 or 5 crates remaining, he was the one who drug the boat onto the platform to empty out all of the water before flipping it. He was hauling a$$ underwater throwing those crates out, too! I wasn't too big of a Rob M. fan in Marquesas (though I didn't hate him as much as most), but I'm starting to like the guy.

I can't figure out which team to root for! I like Chapera because of Alicia and because they seem to be living it up and just having fun but Lex, Kathy, Shii, Rich all on the same team...gotta go for Mogo Mogo.

Thanks volsfan for keeping us informed (and sorry I know there were others posting, too) tonight! I wish we had live feed and I could help again - oh well, at least I get to watch it only one hour later instead of 9!

YAY for being back in the states again!!!!!!

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84. "RE: I just can't wait..."
I liked RobM on Marquesas. And I still like him. But he seems stronger now. I think he really feels like the leader this time where before Hunter was taking that role and RobM was lazing around with Sean. So this is like the new improved RobM. Still cocky, but working harder. Maybe he needs to impress the fair Amber.
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98. "You suck!"
Which is my way of saying, I'm GREEN WITH ENVY that you get to watch it the day it airs now!

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02-05-04, 10:05 PM (EST)
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83. "Other good moments"
trying to read all these posts, hope I don't repeat too much.

Rob M called Jiffy "Pretty Boy Probst"
rob M (after getting fire) "No more having to rub 2 sticks together"
Alicia said that she knew how to do fire but rm and tom were trying to be so macho. When they finally followed her suggestions - viola! Fire!

Rupe moments: Rupe does the happy dance after they get their fire. Also, appears that Rupe & (ethan?) made a fishing spear. Wonder if the other tribes will follow suit.
He was so happy after catching his fish. Needs to be the provider again, after going against the girls in voting choice (even Jiffy pointed this out at TC). During Rupe's confessional, he said he would never write down Rudy's name and had some tears again (because the game was so hard).

Everyone cried after Rudy was voted out. Jiffy put some salt on that wound.

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85. "RE: Other good moments"
The look on Jenna M's face when she realized Tina was booted said alot. Rich also was surprised it was Tina and not Rudy. They know now they are targets along with Ethan.
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02-06-04, 00:16 AM (EST)
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88. "RE: Other good moments"

>Everyone cried after Rudy was voted
>out. Jiffy put some
>salt on that wound.

If Saboga was a little bit smarter during the IC, they wouldn't have to vote out Rudy. They had a big lead too. What a shame.


"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." - Einstein

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99. "RE: Other good moments"
Jiffy put some salt on that wound.

Maybe, but he'd have said something about whomever they voted out!

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86. "Mixed up scenes?"
Was I seeing things or did Saboga have the pot won with the riddle on it for the key. Before the RC? I was sure it was there when Rudy was drinking water out of his diving mask. That scene was shown before the RC. I wondered why they had 2 pots. Then I saw the RC pots. I haven't gone back and watched the tape yet. But I thought I saw that.
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91. "RE: Mixed up scenes?"
I missed taping the first 15 minutes (I had a volleyball game and watch it when I get home), but I understand that they do mix up the days of taping to what they show us. The order is mixed up, which of course helps to steer us in whatever direction they want. What did they say when they showed the extra pot? Does it change how we percieve it later?

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