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"SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time to Vote!"
Whew, we're getting close to the end! And with Rupert long since gone, haven't we all basically just been waiting for ASS to start, really? No matter. It's time to vote again.

The Rules

1. Please put the name of your choice for this week's bootee IN THE SUBJECT HEADING! This is really easy. Just erase the bit where it says "Re: SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time to Vote!" and replace with your vote, i.e., Rupert. This makes it easier to tally votes quickly and accurately. Oh, and btw... nicknames are tougher to tally unless they're REALLY obvious without actually reading your vote.

2. Reply ONLY to this post! Curves on women are good. Curves on vote threads are bad. The first part bears repeating: I like curves on women. Y'know, I'm not sure if I've been clear enough about this. Curves on women are really great things.

EXCEPTION TO RULE 2! VOTE CHANGES!

If it just so happens that you wanna change your vote for whatever reason, REPLY TO YOUR ORIGINAL POST! Your new post heading should read "VOTE CHANGE: Osten (or Whoever)". That said, there is not an exception to the fact that curves on women are good.

3. THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION THREAD! DO NOT TREAT IT AS SUCH! There are plenty of places on the Spoilers Forum to debate the merits of people's arguments. Let's keep it out of here, please.

4. No sig pics! It was suggested that because this can be such a long thread, sig pics make it really hard to load for folks with dial-up connections. So show some respect to your slower brethren (and sistren). And really, if I can refrain from flashing the mistletoe made by the lovely JSlice to 100+ posters, surely you can refrain just this once from extolling IceCat's animated glory, no?

You know you wanna follow the rules. You wouldn't wanna be on Santa's naughty list, would you?

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Darrah SherpaDave 12-09-03 1
 Burton I_AM_HE 12-09-03 2
 Lil Oscirus 12-09-03 3
 RE: SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time ... Dougbie 12-09-03 4
 Burton oddout 12-09-03 5
 Burton forehead 12-09-03 6
 Burton kary1371 12-09-03 7
 Jon Dalton... Goooey_Alley 12-09-03 8
 Burton Fishercat 12-09-03 9
 Burton bebekid 12-09-03 10
 Burton Loree 12-09-03 11
 Burton I_Got_Nutn 12-09-03 12
 Burton Holiday 12-09-03 13
 Burton Loquatrix 12-09-03 14
 Burton gizmo_ber 12-09-03 15
 Burton strid333 12-09-03 16
 Burton tribalwatcher 12-09-03 17
 Jon tinybubs 12-09-03 18
 Burton Roberts KObrien_fan 12-09-03 19
 Burton Ra_8secs 12-09-03 20
 Burton Tiggertramp 12-09-03 21
 Jon flygirl 12-09-03 22
 Burton buckeyegirl 12-09-03 23
 Burton survivorscott 12-09-03 24
 Burt'n tommiettop 12-09-03 25
 Jon volsfan 12-09-03 26
 sandra whoami 12-09-03 27
 Burton PelicanPete 12-09-03 28
 Burton Rolven 12-09-03 29
 Burton tig_ger 12-09-03 30
 Burton zzz 12-09-03 31
 Sandra Smooth23 12-09-03 32
 Burton LeftPinky 12-09-03 33
   " Burton" weecama 12-09-03 34
 Burton RudyRules 12-09-03 35
 Burton Chez 12-09-03 36
 Lill JazzyJax 12-09-03 37
 Burton Devious Weasel 12-09-03 38
 Johnny Hairball BrykMantra 12-09-03 39
 lil badger 12-09-03 40
 Burton Blow by Blow 12-09-03 41
 Burton Missing_Rupert 12-09-03 42
 Burton.... Tiger Lily 12-10-03 43
 Burton ivoryElephant 12-10-03 44
 Burton Joyful 12-10-03 45
 Burton frisky 12-10-03 46
 Burton! But his nickname is uh... B... TeamJoisey 12-10-03 47
 Vote Tally #1 strid333 12-10-03 48
 Burton sleeeve 12-10-03 49
 Burton redbeard103152 12-10-03 50
 Burton...or railfan 12-10-03 51
 Burton Ernie Draco Malfoy 12-10-03 52
 Burton VerucaSalt 12-10-03 53
 Burton Bebo 12-10-03 54
 Burton geg6 12-10-03 55
 Burton okaloosajohn 12-10-03 56
 Burton Rollover 12-10-03 57
 Burton queencityfan 12-10-03 58
 Burton... tamarama 12-10-03 59
 Burton Spanky68 12-10-03 60
   RE: Burton speedyforme 12-10-03 61
 Burton kelli_blue 12-10-03 62
 Burton again blacknwhitedog 12-10-03 63
 Burton atherella 12-10-03 64
 RE: SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time ... GuessItRains 12-10-03 65
 Burton DoodleBug 12-10-03 66
 Burton Jims02 12-10-03 67
 Burton DenverMom 12-10-03 68
 Burton. udg 12-10-03 69
 Burton Dominique 12-10-03 70
 Burton samboohoo 12-10-03 71
 Burton nailbone 12-10-03 72
 Burton Emily RugBurn 12-10-03 73
   RE: Burton d4emend 12-10-03 79
 Burton wendyp 12-10-03 74
 Burton mistofleas 12-10-03 75
 burton cellwrangler 12-10-03 76
 Burton Brownroach 12-10-03 77
 Burton a.k.a. "Burton" ElroyJetson 12-10-03 78
   Little Jonny Does'nt Play Fair Dalt... Flowerpower 12-10-03 87
       RE: vote change...Burton Ernie Flowerpower 12-11-03 128
 The last of the eye candy...Butt...... Sneezles 12-10-03 80
 Burton pinchy 12-10-03 81
 Sandra wildchickenhunter 12-10-03 82
 Burton URang 12-10-03 83
 Burton smrtNsassybnkr 12-10-03 84
 Sandra Ocymvio 12-10-03 85
 Burton PlumBlossom 12-10-03 86
 Burton bmwpow 12-10-03 88
 Burton joannie 12-10-03 89
 Burton wandacal 12-10-03 90
 Burton raven 12-10-03 91
 Burton oddglass2 12-10-03 92
 Burton NTK 12-10-03 93
 Burton - the women mop up!! pdragonfly 12-10-03 94
 Burton robindobindoodledoo 12-10-03 95
 Burton Steen 12-10-03 96
 Burton ExInterper 12-10-03 97
 Burton LolaLolaLola 12-10-03 98
 Vote Tally #2 ExInterper 12-10-03 99
 BURTON...Finally! psydergrl 12-10-03 100
 Burton Nash 12-10-03 101
 Burton bobstew617 12-10-03 102
 Burton greg2557 12-10-03 103
 Burton AyaK 12-10-03 104
 Burton esquire 12-10-03 105
 Darrah redphinn 12-10-03 106
 Burton Zeek 12-10-03 107
 Burton travelingbetty 12-10-03 108
 Burton lizzmac 12-10-03 109
 HEY BURTON... Round Robin 12-10-03 110
 Jon dabo 12-11-03 111
 Burton Thaibeach 12-11-03 112
 Burton Breezy 12-11-03 113
 Burton littlemisssmartypants 12-11-03 114
 Burton scante60a 12-11-03 115
 Bye Bye Burty! Scarlett O Hara 12-11-03 116
 Burton Monicanada 12-11-03 117
 Jon aethelstan 12-11-03 118
 Burton Former CBSer 12-11-03 119
 Jon angelworth29 12-11-03 120
 Refuse to vote bergdogg 12-11-03 121
 Burton Silvergirl1 12-11-03 122
 Burton Gerbees 12-11-03 123
 Barton moonbaby 12-11-03 124
 Burton Garfunkle 12-11-03 125
 burton anotherkim 12-11-03 126
 Burton munson 12-11-03 127
 Burton pancho 12-11-03 129
 Burton.. MDSkinner 12-11-03 130
 Burton TenPin 12-11-03 131
 Burton (Spanish for "The man with ... hrc2u 12-11-03 132
 RE: Burton anws 12-11-03 133
 Burton clemsonbeav 12-11-03 134
 burton emydi 12-11-03 135

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SherpaDave 8326 desperate attention whore postings
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12-09-03, 05:50 PM (EST)
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1. "Darrah"
*giggle* Hi, Bebe!
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12-09-03, 05:56 PM (EST)
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2. "Burton"
LAST EDITED ON 12-10-03 AT 11:58 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 12-10-03 AT 11:56 PM (EST)

it's either burton, jon, or darrah. i could see it going either way. i only know lill and sandra are safe.

so burton is my vote, with jon and darrah co-alternates

edit to add challenge pics and further spec:

RC: Burton wins car, takes Jon to feast.

Back at the ranch, suspicions brew in the back of Darrah's tiny brain and Lill's addled one. Still, Sandra is the intended boot, but her winning immunity

IC: Sandra

causes everyone to scramble. Lill remains an unthreatening, and therefore unthreatened, target. Which means Sandra can choose to side with the boys (and maybe Lill) against their alternate target, Darrah, or get Darrah and Lill on board to boot one of the boys. I agree with eee below, that Sandra will take this opportunity to make a final 2 pact - it could be with Lill or Jon either one, but most likely Lill. Sandra decides she can't pass up a second chance to boot Burton, and his weak answers to Lill re: alliance will lead to both she and Darrah being willing to boot out the only real challenge threat. Any of the remaining four can win the rest of the challenges equally and has a good chance at F3 and F2.

Boot: Burton

alternate - Darrah with a slight edge over Jon

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12-09-03, 06:02 PM (EST)
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3. "Lil"
The granny panties are evil and must go

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12-09-03, 06:06 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time to Vote!"
LAST EDITED ON 12-09-03 AT 06:08 PM (EST)

JON
Time for the “mutiny” to occur! (I can wish can't I)

Doug B,-->DougB,-->Dougbie

edited to add my pick because I am an idiot newbie

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12-09-03, 06:27 PM (EST)
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5. "Burton"
I am going with Burton. I want Jon around for the final ep.
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12-09-03, 06:40 PM (EST)
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6. "Burton"
LAST EDITED ON 12-10-03 AT 11:11 AM (EST)

Snewser had Christa & Burton thumbs down with two checkmarks for ep11 and ep12. Christa is gone ep11. There can only be one conclusion left (barring an update by Snewser, which I doubt).

For game logic, as always, I will rely on VerucaSalt's brilliance.

forehead

FWIW, two weeks ago I updated my PTTE in drich61's game to
Tijuana
Christa
Burton
Jon
Sandra
Lil
Darrah

And yes, my current interpretation of the bearded male finishing third is just that. As male as the third bootee was supposed to be male... Some spoilers pan out more than others...

ETA: Hi VerucaSalt nice job on deleting your pretty sig pic

I can tell we're equally excited to finally see a ghost leave!

While Sandra winning IC would certainly help in explaining a Burton boot, I especially agree with your last statement "I am presuming the women have their game brain working and don't really care about eating at this point." All it takes is working on the doubts Lil has concerning her final 2 pact with Burton...

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12-09-03, 06:44 PM (EST)
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7. "Burton"
At this point, I don't really care any more. The only one I like a little there is Sandra and since she's not supposed to win, well, I don't care no more!
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8. "Jon Dalton..."
the granny killer. I swear!
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12-09-03, 06:56 PM (EST)
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9. "Burton"
On my Top 9 list on another board (All people post-Outcast Twist), I am 4 for 4 so far, so let us make it 5 for 5.
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10. "Burton"
Hi Sherps!
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11. "Burton"
Bye Bye Burton...
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12. "Burton"
RC: Burton
IC: Darrah
Boot: Burton
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13. "Burton"
He wins the car and loses the vote.
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14. "Burton"
RC: Burton
IC: Sandra
Boot: Burton

Oscirus, as much as I'm with you that Lill needs to be banished from our sightlines, I fear we're to be subjected to plenty more glimpses of her voluminous undergarments this week.

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15. "Burton"
Definately one of the guys, i'm thinking Burton over Jon
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16. "Burton"
I think that he will be duped by Jon.
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17. "Burton"
It's him or Jon, and I think the girls finally figure out that Burton's almost as big an immunity challenge as Darrah, and much more of one than Jon.
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18. "Jon"
Its time for one of the guys to go. I think JFP is so upset in the promos because he know he's going and can't do anything about it.

RC: Burton
IC: Sandra
Boot: Jon

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19. "Burton Roberts"
Burton wins the RC and the XUV, he takes pal Johnny to a feast and they get all cocky and overconfident. Meanwhile back at camp there is a mutiny brewing as the girls form a strategy.

The IC is won by Johnny Fairplay (very unexpectedly), which is fine for the gals cause that means that they can boot Burton. Johnny swears on his dead grandma over and over and pleas and begs and tries to spare his buddy (gee Johnny, you like him that much, just give ole Burton the cutlass, come on, I dare you!) but to no avail.

Survivor Burton, welcome home.

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20. "Burton"
burton burton burton
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21. "Burton"
It has to be. Jon is too annoying for them to vote out, they need him for top 2, they are ALL thinking it, you know they are.
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22. "Jon"
Hopefully, the "mutiny" is directed at him! Goodriddance!
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23. "Burton"
All signs are pointing his way...alternate pick: Jon
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24. "Burton"
this time there is no coming back
Come in a stranger,leave a little stranger
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25. "Burt'n"
Tommie sez its Burt now, Jon later.

Bye bye Burtie

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26. "Jon"
I have said since last Thursday's show that the mutiny is against Jon and I stick by it! If I am right....YEAH ME! If not...DAMMIT!
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27. "sandra"
Why not?

WHOAMI
Just me being different.

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28. "Burton"
This was his scheduled place to go weeks ago; plus, Snewser and TDT have him exiting (for the second time) this week as well so that's good enough for me.

Jon or Sandra wouldn't be a bad "Surprise Boot" though!

-PP

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Burton
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31. "Burton"
Spoilers have been pointing in this direction for quite a while. The Mutiny title puts it away. Only immunity could save him (leaving Jon as alternate pick).
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Sandra, just think theres to much info pointing to everyone else.
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Because it has to be!
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Burton
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Bye Bye Burton!
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So glad to see no votes yet for Sandra!
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Hoping to be surprised by the annoying, indecisive one, but it's probably Burton.

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Has to be. And I, for one, will miss him.
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39. "Johnny Hairball"
Again: "I keep on wishin' ... hopin' ..."

Actually I'm beginning to hate Lil more than Jon. He's a lying weasel, but she's just a sniveling spineless wishy-washy whiner.

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40. "lil"
"mutiny" against the scout leader

alternate choice: darrah

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41. "Burton"
Yaaaawwwnnnn.....
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42. "Burton"
Burton
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43. "Burton...."
...of course.

although I wouldn't mind seeing Lil or Sandra go instead.

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44. "Burton"
Boot Burton
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45. "Burton"
LAST EDITED ON 12-10-03 AT 00:43 AM (EST)

I think Sandra wins immunity and although it would be smart to get rid of Jon I think she'll push for Burton's boot.

Edited to proclaim that I no longer endorse Blistex and have made it to the small screen Thank-you very much!

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46. "Burton"
Okay with me so long as he appears shirtless on the jury.
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47. "Burton! But his nickname is uh... Burton"
moo.
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48. "Vote Tally #1"
47 votes and this is post number 48.

Burton 35
Jon and I included Dougbie's (welcome to the boards) vote 6
Lil 3
Sandra 2
Darrah 1

Burton is in a very strong lead.

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49. "Burton"
Sandra will stir up enough trouble that all of Jon's lies will come to light... realizing that she has been lied to, Darrah will consider joining Sandra in an alliance

Lillian has basically been told that she MUST win the final IC in order to get to the finals... Sandra will offer her a final two pact, which will cause her to turn on Burton.

Sandra will win immunity causing Jon and Burton to rethink their boot order... they instruct Lillian to vote for Darrah, and try to convince Sandra to do so as well... When Darrah finds out (thanks to Sandra), the last shred of belief in Jon vanishes... she joins the women's alliance.

Despite everyone's hatred of Jon, even Sandra believes that it is more strategic to eliminate challenge threat, Burton (especially since he will win a car in the traditional superchallenge proving his challenge prowess).

Sandra, Darrah, and Lillian vote Burton.

Burton and Jon vote Darrah.

Summary for E12
RC: Burton
IC: Sandra
Boot: Burton

Long Term Outlook:
Sandra will offer a F2 alliance to Lillian (who she believes that she can beat, since Lill was previously booted from the game). Sandra KNOWS that she cannot beat Darrah in the F2 (Darrah would get votes from T, Rhyno, Lill, Jon, and probably Burton, too). Therefore, Sandra's plan is to vote out Jon with the women's alliance, and then to win IC (or pray that Lill miraculously wins) and take Lill to the finals.

Lill will be offered a F2 alliance with Sandra, and will take it over her current F3 alliance with Burton (who she is extremely unlikely to beat in the final IC). Lill is extremely unlikely to win any IC, but if she does, she will take Sandra to the finals, because she will honor the alliance.

Darrah will realize that Jon lied to her (especially when he votes for her at the E12 TC), and will join with Lill and Sandra in an alliance to eliminate the men. She plans to get rid of Jon and then she must win the final IC in order to get further in the game. If she wins the final IC, she wins the game... period (vs Sandra, see above; vs Lill, she gets votes from Rhyno, T, Rupert, and Christa for sure... she might also get votes from Burton (is he pissed at Lill's betrayal?), Jon (is he pissed at Darrah's betrayal?), and Sandra (is she pissed that Darrah eliminated her and not Lill?))

Jon will try to reconcile with Darrah, but his vote for her in the previous TC will show his true feelings. With no allies in the game, his only chance is to win both of the final ICs.

PTTE
Assuming that there are no shocking immunity upsets...
Burton is eliminated this episode
Jon is eliminated next
Darrah is eliminated when she doesn't win immunity (but if she does, then she wins the game, no matter who she takes to the finals... she probably takes Lillian since she could actually win 7-0 in that scenario, while she is only likely to win 5-2 vs. Sandra)

That leaves Sandra and Lillian in the finals.

Jury:
Rhyno: Sandra?? (Lill doesn't deserve it... she was eliminated before)
Rupert: Sandra (His strong ally)
T: Lill (Sandra's betrayal led to her elimination)
Christa: Sandra (Her strong ally)
Burton: Sandra?? (Is probably upset at Lill's betrayal)
Jon: Lill (dislike for Sandra forces him to vote for lesser of two evils)
Darrah: Sandra?? (Lill doesn't deserve it, but Sandra probably voted her out... it's 6 of one and half a dozen of another)

So... how does this match up with spoilers??? Depends on which ones you believe...

We have a spoiler that says that Lill (an older woman originally voted out of the game leaves and then returns...) makes the final two, but does not win. We have another spoiler that says that Darrah (a younger woman) wins (working on my best Foghorn Leghorn accent here?). We have a gambling site which suggests that Sandra wins.

All of these spoilers are consistent with the logical progression of gameplay outlined above... then it will just depend on whether or not Darrah wins the final IC.

If Darrah wins the final IC, she takes Lill and wins the game... If Sandra or Lill win the final IC, they take each other, and Sandra wins the game.

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50. "Burton"
Take the walk for the second time you IC and Reward hog you. The women finally wake up. Its about time.
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51. "Burton...or"
maybe Jon...I dunno ???????????????????????
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52. "Burton Ernie"
Baa. I'm getting a sense of deja vu here.
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53. "Burton"

Hi forehead (no sig pic for me this week lol)

I've been anxiously awaiting to say goodbye to a ghost. Though Sandra seems unlikely to win the IC, I can't imagine why she wouldn't be going then so I think she will handle this IC very delicately and emerge victorious.

At least Burton gets a nice black(maybe?) Envoy as a parting gift which should have gone to someone who didn't get booted in the first place.

Jon doesn't appear to be the typical bearded man for that description but I guess I am presuming the women have their game brain working and don't really care about eating at this point.

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54. "Burton"
We have confirmation of CBS Survivor parties this weekend in Lil and Darrah's areas (thanks Tapestry, for the Darrah info), which suggests at minimum that they both make the final 3. Therefore, they are safe. Burton and Jon are a tight alliance. Since Darrah and Lil survive this episode, Sandra must work with Darrah and Lil to get one of those two out.

Snewser had his checkmark up before E11, and at that time only had two people with a thumbs-down. One of those left E11, so that would suggest Burton is out in E12.

Is the unexpected that Jon wins IC? We have a foreshadowing comment about his poor performance in challenges that suggests he wins at least one when it counts. Think back to Jenna's "I can't win immunity challenges" comment not long after the merge in S6, and then remember how many IC's she did end up winning. Jonny Fairplay's scrambling to learn the plan would make sense if he had immunity but knew his F2 buddy was on the chopping block.

But even if Jon doesn't win immunity, Burton is the logical choice to target first. He has won ICs, and if he could mess up their plans if he started winning them again during the endgame. If they vote out one of the guys, preferably the stronger immunity threat, the women have the greatest likelihood of controlling the endgame.

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55. "Burton"
One of the guys has to go. Jon is my alternate, but I really wish it was Darrah. Don't like her or her gameplay and don't want her to win.
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56. "Burton"
I'd rather it be Jonnyboy, but I guess I'll just have to wait for him to get his...


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57. "Burton"
I picked Burton last week and will vote for him till he is gone.
The remaining Survivors must be unconcious unless they pick him.
Wait what do we have left:
A snake
A militant big mouth
A mumble mouth
A feble granny panties that has no direction
What a group of survivors. What ever happen to the Swiss family Robinsons?
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58. "Burton"
Hate to lose the only eye-candy left, but again it seems inevitable.
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59. "Burton..."
...because if those women don't FINALLY wake up & talk to each other, I'll....I'll....I'll be really frustrated.
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60. "Burton"
bubeye you outcast slug! You didn't deserve to be back from the Loser Lodge. Now you get sent there twice. This makes you the first Survivor ever to be booted twice. What a fitting tribute to your lack of skills and strategy.
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61. "RE: Burton"
Burton...

please please please SANDRA win immunity and
please please please SANDRA outlast Jon

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62. "Burton"
RC- Burton
IC- Sandra
Boot- Burton
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63. "Burton again"
I'm not naughty, I'm nice

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64. "Burton"
RC - Burton (take your car and go!!!)
IC - Sandra (you go girl!!)
Boot - Burton

*Backup boot - JON!!!!!!!!

LET THE MUTINY BEGIN!!!!

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65. "RE: SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time to Vote!"
LAST EDITED ON 12-10-03 AT 11:01 AM (EST)

Burton!

Jon and Burton think they have it in the bag, which means they probably don't. My guess: Jon starts to get worried about Darrah's immunity run, so he makes a "deal" with Sandra to target Darrah and save her butt. Sandra is done with Jon and tells Darrah, who agrees with her and Lillian (who also no longer trusts Jon/Burton) to form a Women's Final 3 Alliance. Then Darrah wins immunity, causing Jon to approach Sandra again and suggest voting out Lill. Sandra pays him no mind, causing Jon to panic "I swear on my grandmother, do you three have a plan?" Jon probably gets a clue from this conversation that he needs to jump ship and Burton gets voted out 4-1.

Edited because I'm NOT a newbie and I should know better than to violate the rules by failing to change the subject heading.

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66. "Burton"
Sandra is pissed because her buddy Christa is gone. She's sick of Jon's scheming and lying and is out for revenge.

Burton wins a car and takes Jon to celebrate in a feast. They become overconfident thinking they have the game sewed up. Meanwhile the ladies led by Sandra are cooking up a plan to get rid of the boys.

The boys plan to oust Sandra, but she wins immunity! Time to get rid of Burton once and for all.


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67. "Burton"
Easy approach:

Jon
Burton
Lil
Sandra
Darrah

Thanks to the Radio Promos, we can eliminate Jon and Sandra, based on the logic that they wouldn't include people who had already been voted out.

Lillian's hometown is having a party, so we can eliminate her too.

Darrah is rumored to be in the Final Two. Will she? We'll find out.

Boot: Burton
IC: Sandra
RC: Burton
Alternate: Darrah

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68. "Burton"
Liz Marvan
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69. "Burton."
Swoop.

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70. "Burton"
Burton
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71. "Burton"
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72. "Burton"
Wish it was Sandra, though!

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73. "Burton"
*Almost* echoing DoodleBug:

Sandra is pissed because her Big Bird has flown the coop. She's sick of Jon's scheming and lying and is out for revenge. (Jon will be made to look like the boot from the beginning of the show.)

Burton wins the wheels, and underestimating the scheming power of the remaining ladies, he takes Jon along to celebrate, and they spend the entire time patting each other on the back. (I thought of another euphemism for “patting each other on the back” but I chose not to use it!)

Meanwhile, back at the ranch... er, camp, the ladies recognize they have the numbers and they're not gonna sit back and let Tweedle-dumb and Tweedle-dumber pick them off. Sandra along with Darrah (who would rather have the guys gone too, cause really they’re the only one’s left who pose an immunity threat to her) want Lill to join their club. Lill is swayed to their side because a) she's ticked at Jon `cause he insulted her at the last reward, and b) Burton refused to confirm that they were still in an F2 pact AND he’s just taken Jon with him on the reward. As far as the ladies are concerned, Jon's a booted man. The boys plan to oust Sandra *thinking* they have Lil.

When the unexpected happens, everyone is sent scrambling.

Since CBS tends to exaggerate, no one really "scrambles" but the ladies’ plan cannot be followed through because, shock-of-all-shocks, Jon wins the IC.

So Burton goes instead - it's the smartest thing for the ladies to do anyway because they can't risk him winning any more ICs.

~ EmRB

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79. "RE: Burton"
I wonder who's dumber, the people who made it to Survivor and "survived" until near the end of the game. Or people like "Emily RugBurn," giving kilometric analysis, calling the players "dumb" while fantisizing to be cast in future editions of Survivor? I wonder? tsk tsk tsk...

Tweedle-dumb and Tweedle-dumber

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74. "Burton"
I think he gets to comfortable and pissed off the ladies.
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75. "Burton"
Take what I said last week and insert it here.

Oh and I think it's very nice of them to give Burton a car so he can attempt to drive it back to the states after he's booted.

mistofleas --dreams of owning a Mini Cooper

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76. "burton"
burton goes this week
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77. "Burton"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-03 AT 10:08 AM (EST)

Snewser's thumbs-down, early checkmark and no movement on the sites for two weeks. And it's to be expected anyway.

Too bad, he was the most clearheaded strategist. Up until now.

ETA challenge picks:

RC -- Burton, duh.

IC -- vacillating between Jon and Darrah, but leaning toward Darrah now. Burton's been paying attention: Christa's prediction about a Darrah IC run started to materialize last week, so I suspect he'll want her out next. Lill and maybe even Sandra would be pulled into this plan early on.

Then the boys get cocky thinking everything's sewn up for F2, Sandra gets annoyed, Darrah "unexpectedly" wins IC a THIRD time, Jon gets nervous, Sandra goes Christy on him ("I don't know how I'm gonna vote" -- but she does know).

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78. "Burton a.k.a. "Burton""
Buh bye outcast

EJ

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87. "Little Jonny Does'nt Play Fair Dalton"
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Going out on a limb here and going against the flow....but me thinks that since it is clear that Jonny is in control and is the lone leader and that a mutiny involves an overthrow of the "O Powerful One"........see ya Jon-boy......if perhaps you weezil an II than Burton is hist-o-reee!

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128. "RE: vote change...Burton Ernie"
Got to go with the flow now....bye bye burt
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80. "The last of the eye candy...Butt...oh, um...Burt."
blah, blah, blah, blah blah.
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81. "Burton"
FINALLY
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82. "Sandra"
My guess is that this week either - Burton, Jon, Sandra, Lil or Darrah have to go. If it is not Sandra then I would guess it will be one of the others.

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83. "Burton"
Again

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84. "Burton"
Alternate: Jon
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85. "Sandra"
Still don't think she'll make it to final 3
so I'm thinking it's this week.
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86. "Burton"
Though I wish it would be Jon.
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88. "Burton "
The Eco-warrior bites the dust again.
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89. "Burton"
I agree with KObrien_fan's synopsis. The "mutiny" refers to the girls wising up, comparing notes, and going after Jon and Burton, who think they are running the show.

RC = Burton
IC = Jon
Boot = Burton

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12-10-03, 05:04 PM (EST)
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90. "Burton"
Buh-bye Burton
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12-10-03, 05:58 PM (EST)
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91. "Burton"
the first survivor to be voted out twice.

poor Burton.

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12-10-03, 06:03 PM (EST)
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92. "Burton"
..although I'd love to see Lillian or Jon go!
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NTK 109 desperate attention whore postings
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12-10-03, 07:19 PM (EST)
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93. "Burton"
Going with the flow. Will be happy if it's Jon.
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pdragonfly 318 desperate attention whore postings
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12-10-03, 08:26 PM (EST)
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94. "Burton - the women mop up!!"

Hey Jon they take your suggestion and mop up the guys.

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robindobindoodledoo 69 desperate attention whore postings
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12-10-03, 08:34 PM (EST)
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95. "Burton"
for good this time
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Steen 1544 desperate attention whore postings
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12-10-03, 08:36 PM (EST)
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96. "Burton"
Burton
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ExInterper 3093 desperate attention whore postings
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12-10-03, 08:51 PM (EST)
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97. "Burton"
Baaaaaaah!
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LolaLolaLola 8 desperate attention whore postings
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12-10-03, 08:55 PM (EST)
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98. "Burton"
Finally, Burton!
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ExInterper 3093 desperate attention whore postings
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12-10-03, 08:57 PM (EST)
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99. "Vote Tally #2"
Burton - 82
Jon - 7
Sandra - 4
Lil - 3
Darrah - 1

Looks like bye bye Burton...again.

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12-10-03, 08:57 PM (EST)
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100. "BURTON...Finally!"
..
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Nash 437 desperate attention whore postings
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12-10-03, 09:07 PM (EST)
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101. "Burton"
This is the third week I've voted for Burton. This time I had better be right.
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12-10-03, 09:15 PM (EST)
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102. "Burton"
I'm such a lemming... based on Snewser and the title of this Ep, I can't see it going any other way.
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greg2557 166 desperate attention whore postings
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12-10-03, 09:18 PM (EST)
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103. "Burton"
The only survivor to get voted out twice.
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings
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12-10-03, 09:25 PM (EST)
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104. "Burton"
...because strategies revealed never work, and instead of seeing Lil or Darrah talk about their pacts with Jon and Burton (as we did with Ted and Helen in S5 -- but we never saw Brian talk about his THREE final-two pacts until the finale), we've seen Jon and Burton talking.
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esquire 1095 desperate attention whore postings
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12-10-03, 09:48 PM (EST)
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105. "Burton"
Lil and Darrah have CBS parties planned for them and should therefore be in the final 4. Sandra and Jon appear on the radio commercials and should therefore be in the final 4. That leaves Burton as the bootee
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106. "Darrah"
It's really just a feeling that I have. I going for the underdog. Go Darrah!! Just please don't let Jon win.
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12-10-03, 10:18 PM (EST)
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107. "Burton"
I would rather see Jon gone, but don't think that's going to happen.
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travelingbetty 296 desperate attention whore postings
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12-10-03, 11:10 PM (EST)
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108. "Burton"
dealing with slime makes you slimy. See ya!
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12-10-03, 11:23 PM (EST)
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109. "Burton"
Geez, I'm away from the board for a day and now look like a major sheep - doesn't matter, though, I think I'd have stuck with a Burton boot even if there was a string of Darrahs here instead... I'm starting to buy into the Jon-wins-a-challenge theory, and that maybe he is the initial target.

Lizzmac

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12-10-03, 11:57 PM (EST)
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110. "HEY BURTON..."
...it's time for you to go!
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12-11-03, 00:25 AM (EST)
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111. "Jon"
I just can't see anyone rooting for him if he falls on his face at the final three, per Jiffy's hyperbole. At the final five, well maybe, but not at the final three. Besides, the last IC usually involves if you slip just once you're out of it no mulligans!!! Ain't no rooting for someone to get up off the dirt at the final IC, once they're in the dirt it's all over.

Jon has clearly been running the show more and more the past couple of episodes, he's had a big build-up, and they've all got to know the granny-lad has sympathy playing in his favor on account of the big dumb lie, better to just get him out of the picture altogether.

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Thaibeach 872 desperate attention whore postings
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12-11-03, 07:10 AM (EST)
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112. "Burton"
that sick little monkey. But I really hope it's Jon or (snoooooze) Darrah.
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Breezy 18380 desperate attention whore postings
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12-11-03, 08:31 AM (EST)
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113. "Burton"
baaaaaaaaa
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12-11-03, 09:57 AM (EST)
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114. "Burton"
Just cause it's my first time voting with everyone (instead of just reading them, as I have been doing religiously every Thursday for the past 2 years), and I don't wanna be wrong!
Though, I wish it were Jon leaving. He needs a kick in the shins.
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scante60a 76 desperate attention whore postings
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12-11-03, 10:50 AM (EST)
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115. "Burton"
...just another sheep.
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12-11-03, 11:15 AM (EST)
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116. "Bye Bye Burty!"
Burton Blows!
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Monicanada 532 desperate attention whore postings
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12-11-03, 11:24 AM (EST)
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117. "Burton"
Burt, it's time to return to LL!
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12-11-03, 11:33 AM (EST)
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118. "Jon"
I just feel like being different. I wholly expect Burton.

RC: Burton
IC: Sandra (Jon falls into the water and must start over)

~aethelstan

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12-11-03, 01:05 PM (EST)
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119. "Burton"
The Tribe has spoken. I wish it was that little gay twerp Jon but his time will come.
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12-11-03, 01:17 PM (EST)
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120. "Jon"
I may be only dreaming.
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12-11-03, 01:41 PM (EST)
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121. "Refuse to vote"
I hope they all burn in hell.
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12-11-03, 02:00 PM (EST)
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122. "Burton"
Second choice: Jon
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12-11-03, 02:38 PM (EST)
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123. "Burton"
Gerbees
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124. "Barton"
Fink

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125. "Burton"
Long time reader. First time poster.
Burton go bye bye.
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12-11-03, 03:09 PM (EST)
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126. "burton"
bout.damn.time!
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munson 1314 desperate attention whore postings
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12-11-03, 03:25 PM (EST)
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127. "Burton"
Just making it official.
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pancho 82 desperate attention whore postings
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12-11-03, 03:53 PM (EST)
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129. "Burton"
How many tribal councils does it take to get rid of Burton? A one, a two ...
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12-11-03, 04:27 PM (EST)
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130. "Burton.."
The mutiny happens here.
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12-11-03, 05:06 PM (EST)
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131. "Burton"
ALL outcasts must die!

TenPin
"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intellegent, but the most responsive to change."
Charles Darwin

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hrc2u 146 desperate attention whore postings
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132. "Burton (Spanish for "The man with no power")"
Burton
Alt: should the inner earth explode: Jonnie Liar, Liar pants on fire.
hrc2u
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133. "RE: Burton"
It seems his time is up.
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12-11-03, 06:51 PM (EST)
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134. "Burton"
Free DAW!


Even when you can't see Him, God is there!

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135. "burton"
burton
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