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3. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
I think that every time we see skycam shots they're just using doubles. There are no other cameramen in sight but when the challenge is playing out they have plenty of close-up shots. Also, you'll notice that tower in the lower left of some of the caps - I think that's where the cameraman is standing to get close-up shots during the actual competition.
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12-08-03, 05:54 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
I made an animated gif of the air shot, but it is too big to upload.
Until the bandwidth is exceeded
I was unbelieving, now I am repentant.
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12-08-03, 02:29 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
It looks like each section of bridge will require a different "combination" to release it.
Jon and Darrah have canteens, (1,2,7,8) maybe they have to fill a counter-weight.
Lill looks like she is unlocking a padlock (15,16). I am sure there will be knots.
I think someone will win.
I think Darrah will win.
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12-08-03, 08:59 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
Alright, I am going to post this here because it deals with immunity but not the challenge. I was over at Survivor Phoenix and I am going to steal some photos from them if no one minds:
I was trying to figure out who wins immunity and I thought I was on to something when I noticed that TDT had pics of four (Burton, Darrah, Jon and Sandra) at tribal council with Lil missing from the previews. I was curious as to why she was missing...did she have the II? Well, I go over and start browsing at Survivor Phoenix and I have found pics of all 5 (the ones I have posted here)that were taken from the preview. These pics are straight from last weeks tribal council! I went back and watched it on my tape and I can practically stop my tape exactly where these stills are shot. These pics were taken right after Christa takes the walk of shame. So, none of the pics from tribal council are from this week or Sunday! They are all repeats! I know some people were speculating that Jon had the II around his neck in his pic. Well, the shirt he is wearing to TC last week had letters on it and was black around the top of it with grey mixed in...so it does look like the strap but it isn't!
OK...this is my longest post ever and I hope it makes sense!
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12-08-03, 10:03 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-08-03 AT 10:05 PM (EST)Nice job, Doc. And fwiw, I'm inclined to disagree with Misto and agree with Magic Fingers. It looks to me like a stage race. You must run across the planks to get to the next station. At that station, you need to perform a specific task (answer a question, raise a flag, open something, unlock something, retrieve something, who knows). If you fall into the water, you need to return to the most recently completed stage place in order to resume the competition. First one across, wins immunity. 
Another quality creation by JSlice
Edited to add. Actually, from pic 10, it looks like the planks are missing. So I think Magic has it all right.
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12-09-03, 11:24 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
And fwiw, I'm inclined to disagree with Misto and agree with Magic Fingers. It's because you found out I'm married isn't it? *pouts* Honestly though, I do see what Magic is saying about the straight relay and while I think that's probably a much stronger possibility than my scenario, I can't help but think it's not going to be that straight forward. Thus my thinking of the squares and the initialled canteens. It's happened before that I've been wrong. I know, you all are shocked, but it's true! *giggles* 
--hopes Astan will eventually forgive her
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18. "Darrah at TC" |
Scroll down and you'll see... the vid cap shown in this week's preview is Darrah in Episode 9.
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17. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
So, we have this pic of Jon at the IC:
Then we have this scene back at camp (Note Jon's hair/buff is the same as in IC. Jon: I swear on my grandmother, I swear, I swear, I swear. Now do you guys have a <bleeping> plan or not? 
Others have made note of Jon's desperation here. He's talking to Sandra, Darrah and Lil. Supposedly, the "unexpected" has just happened, and people are now scrambling. The unexpected is that Sandra has just won IC. She was the next obvious boot by B/J/D/L. Back at camp, Jon seems to be conspiring with the girls in Burton's absence. So, Jon is scrambling for a plan to oust Burton. If he were trying to hatch a plan against one of the other women, he wouldn't be approaching all the women, right? Sandra, seemingly, is in the driver's seat. She has said Jon is like a girl and so is not a challenge threat. She has felt that Burton is the biggest threat. Lil doesn't feel secure in her alliance with Burton because he was so wishy-washy when she asked him about their alliance. Darrah has said she will not vote against Burton and is not afraid to say so. Jon is desperate and will do anything at this point to save his own a$$. *Burton goes, 3-1. They agree to Darrah throwing her vote to keep her promise to Burton because they have the majority anyway. *Jiffy's prediction comes to pass: wishy-washiness leads to someone's downfall. If Lil still felt secure in their alliance, she wouldn't have voted for him, and at worst, there would have been a tie. *Sandra makes final four, contrary to Jon's key quote. *Snewser's "Jon makes a dramaqueen-esque performance at TC" sounds like a further-down-the-road event, like at F3 or final TC. Unfortunately, the obvious will happen this week: Burton goes. Sandra orchestrates a mutiny. 
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12-09-03, 11:35 AM (EST)
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22. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
Burton goes, 3-1. They agree to Darrah throwing her vote to keep her promise to Burton because they have the majority anyway.Ehhhh...I don't think so. My take is that Jon has figured out that the women are conspiring and is trying to get them to spill the beans. I maintain that Jon still wants Burton around because once Burton goes, Jon is next. If Darrah were adamantly not going to vote against Burton, she would vote with Burton and Jon, so Jon would have nothing to worry about (even if Lill appears to be caving). I don't see it. Mutiny = the women rebel against Jon. And unless Burton wins IC, he's gone. 
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12-09-03, 01:40 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
VS, It doesn't look as if anyone else is there during the Jon/Sandra discussion.
The shots pan right to left from Sandra to Jon with 2 quick frames in between.
   
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12-09-03, 12:19 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
I don't think Sandra is on the chopping block.
Darrah has just kicked butt on 2 ICs, making herself a threat.
There really is no J/B/L/D alliance. There was a J/B/L/D/T alliance for about 10 minutes, then they voted T off. I think that ended any loyalty that Darrah had to Burton and vice versa.
Jon formed his "alliance" with Darrah to keep her from Sandra.All of that to say, I think Darrah is the next target. But she wins immunity. Jon is controlling each of the other survivors individually now.
When Jon and Burton talk now, it is just the 2 of them.
Jon, not Burton, went to Lil prior to the last TC.
Jon had Darrah lie to Sandra and tell her that Lil was going and Jon was telling her now.
I believe in the Jon/Sandra secret alliance, but it is reaching the point where it has to break down.
Jon's concern right now is that if Sandra sucessfully rallies the women that they target Burton, not him. I can't wait until Jonny's dead granny jumps up and bites him on the a$$. As much of a jerk as he has been, who would want to go up against dead granny? I think Sandra is smart enough to get rid of Burton first, but next TC... Revenge of Dead Granny.
Man, am I rambling.
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12-09-03, 12:45 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
I've heard some speculation that the winner of the IC is Sandra and thats what gives the women the power for "mutiny" and the part that has players scrambling. I just don't see Sandra winning any kind of immunity that has to deal with physical strength, agility, and brains. One thing I have noticed about Johnny Fairplay, is that I think he has been pacing himself on challenges in the past (sandbagging to a certain degree). He doesn't want to call too much attention to himself, and he has used his weaseling to stay alive so far. During the keel hauling challenge, he was one of the top 2 in his heat, edging out Christa who is a pretty strong swimmer and strong overall. In the 2nd round, John knew he was no match for Burton AND Rupert, so he worked hard to see how close he could make it, and then pulled an Osten and gave up. I think he wanted to see how close he could come if he needed to beat them, yet he didn't want to start shining yet. This snake is laying in wait for his chance. Heck even Sandra has dubbed him like a "girl". I can see this as his overall plan in how to play the game. Help out at camp but don't be too helpful. Get into arguments with others about their contributions (ie: Sandra, Shawn) to deflect the eyes from being on him. Do just enough at challenges to help the tribe win, but look inept at anything physical. Same thing individually, as long as he feels he is safe, he doesn't have to try his best and can be kept around by others because he is a lying snake and not a challenge threat. I think Burton wins RC and takes John with him to feast. The ladies talk about mutiny in their absense and want to get rid of either John or Burton. I think the people with the best shot of winning IC is Burton, Darrah, John, Lill in that order, I see no way possible that Sandra would win this unless once the others fall in water they are completely eliminated from the challenge. Not quite sure what has them all scrambling, but I say John wins IC, and Burton gets the boot. 
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12-09-03, 01:09 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-09-03 AT 01:10 PM (EST)I just don't see Sandra winning any kind of immunity that has to deal with physical strength, agility, and brains. So what kind of immunity challenge do you think Sandra could win? You pretty much covered everything, LOL. Actually Jon winning IC is not a bad suggestion at all. The balance aspect of the IC would seem to favor the lighter weights of Jon and Darrah. And Jon has some kind of wrestling skills, however minimal, so he can't be completely inept. Jon winning IC would also explain his desperation to know what plans Sandra is making. He doesn't want Burton booted, but he can't transfer his immunity to Burton because then he'd get the boot if the women are aligning.
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12-09-03, 01:41 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
I really enjoy reading these threads. When it was speculated that Jon would tell everyone his grandma died, I thought, "wow, I bet that's it!" Awesome.
I think that Jon OR Sandra winning immunity would be unexpected.
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12-10-03, 02:35 PM (EST)
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42. "unexpected" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-10-03 AT 02:36 PM (EST)the unexpected could be:
1. Darrah wins her THIRD immunity
2. Jon wins immunity
3. Sandra wins an IC involving WATER (they've made a big deal about her dislike of water challenges) or 4. someone gives up their immunity (i think it's Sandra, because of the edits about Sandra's "fear" of water- very weak and typical of CBS)
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12-10-03, 02:56 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: unexpected" |
I'd have to agree that Sandra winning a water challenge would certainly qualify for the totally unexpected, especially after their highlighting her comments about water challenges last week. Of course, the Jon winning a challenge thing is also a main candidate, but perhaps the RC wins (even if they were gimme's) cancels that out.
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12-10-03, 03:20 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
I'd like to go back to the discussion of what the hell this challenge actually is again if ya'll don't mind. I've been looking at the vid caps and I think I've got at least the beginnings of what the thing might be.This pic:
 And this pic:
 Clearly show some sort of glass tube next to the posts. In this pic:
 you can see several of them. They're not short either, they're fairly long. There's another one below the "A" but I didn't circle it. Here's my thought, much like the coconut challenge ('member Thailand where they had to use coconut juice to fill the glass tubes to the top?) perhaps this one has them taking the canteens and filling the tubes with water. At the bottom of the tube is a key on a floaty thing. When the water fills the tube the floaty thing with the key...well floats to the top and they can retrieve the key, unlock the paddlock and release the plank to go on the the next one. So it's could be either a straight relay just getting across from one side to the other OR it's like I had speculated earlier up that they need to form squares and use their initialled canteens to make as many as possible. Am I seeing things or is this possible?
--thought she was seeing things with the piles of firewood under the crowsnest in the slingshot challenge too
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12-10-03, 03:36 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
I agree with you Misto, it certainly looks like that to me and would explain the canteen in the hand too. It looks like some twine/rope going up vertically and then across to the plank, and it looks like what could be a padlock hanging, that when unlocked allows the plank to be lowered. I also like the idea from earlier that if they lose balance and fall off, they have to go back to the beginning and retrace their steps.The next question would be, what are the rules for getting the water into the canteen? Do they need to go back to a trough thats filled, or a certain station to do so? I really don't see Sandra winning this, I know I said that above, but many people think Sandra wins IC. I think the shock is John winning it, and added to that is the misdirection of what looks like him losing his balance and falling in the screen shot above. Good eyes Misto!
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12-10-03, 04:18 PM (EST)
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53. "TDT has similar thoughts" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-10-03 AT 04:25 PM (EST)TDT has a similar theory on the jars and keys on his spoiler page. Additionally he points out that in this pic: 
Sandra can be seen bending over at bottom right; possibly she is filling her canteen with water from below. ETA: Actually that person might be Lillian though TDT says Sandra.
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12-10-03, 04:20 PM (EST)
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55. "Strange things in vidcaps" |
After STARING at these pictures for about 20 minutes now, here are my observations:
1) In cap #12, it appears that three people are shown over the "O-N", and one appears to be Jon. They are not visible in #11. I couldn't figure out what I was looking at.
2) In cap #5, you can see Sandra right behind Lill's head. It also appears that in #3 and #4 that Lill has released her first plank. You can see Jon has his key in the lock on #4, but not in #3 or #5. He could be taking off the chain or something in #5.
3) Where is the mystery splash coming from in #6? If you look at the direction the water is coming from, it appears that either he has dropped or broken his 'cup' of water, OR, it could be Sandra or someone that direction falling in the water. I thought about maybe being a plank, but the planks don't go into the water.
Any thoughts?
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12-10-03, 04:39 PM (EST)
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58. "RE: Strange things in vidcaps" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-10-03 AT 04:39 PM (EST)In cap #5, you can see Sandra right behind Lill's head. I thought that at first, but I believe that is the post with the rope around the top that is also visible between Lillian and Jon in cap 6, not Sandra's head. The splash seems rather large, too large to be someone dropping a glass tube or canteen. I'm thinking someone has fallen behind Lill as well.
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12-10-03, 06:06 PM (EST)
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64. "RE: Strange things in vidcaps" |
You are right as usual, BR! Upon further studying, I can clearly see that it is NOT Sandra's head but a pole! Thanks for clarifying! What about #12? Does it look like someone is shown above the 'O'? It actually looks like three people, but then again, I thought a pole was Sandra!
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12-10-03, 07:05 PM (EST)
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66. "RE: Strange things in vidcaps" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-10-03 AT 07:31 PM (EST)I'm not sure what that thing behind the O is. This is the picture, with True Dork Times' caption for it underneath.  - 12
Lill, Darrah, Burton with two planks down, Sandra lowering her second.
Now, I have to really stare at this to see how he figured that out, since the angles and perspective are confusing and virtually no one is visible. What appears to be a person's head above the point of the N would be Burton walking across his second plank; his third plank is still raised, extending toward the sand in the top right corner. The upraised plank just right of the N in SEASON would then be Darrah's third plank. I guess if her first two planks were still upraised the tops would be visible above the letters, hence the assumption that she also has two planks down. I don't know how he can tell where Sandra is at, since all her planks seem to be obscured by the lettering. The two planks that are visibly down near the bottom left (going toward and then under the FIN) should then be Lill's first two planks, but where is she in that case? Did she fall into the water? Her third plank is still up, just under the A in FINALE. The upraised plank in the right foreground should be her fourth plank. The upraised planks going up into the F and into the L of FINALE should then be Jon's third and fourth planks. I guess that's what he's seeing but I'm not sure.
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12-10-03, 08:09 PM (EST)
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71. "RE: Strange things in vidcaps" |
it might help to see it in motion.
Burton is seen over the "O" walking onto his second plank. Also, if you'll notice in the mess of letters that Sandra's second plank is in the motion of falling. As to Lil's whereabouts, If you notice where the "F" originates you can see a tan shirt/ dark shorts. I think thats a quick shot of Lil's backside, as she leans down to dip her canteen into the water.
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12-10-03, 07:11 PM (EST)
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67. "Lillian wins an immunity challenge" |
In the vidcaps above it looks like lillian is strapping on the immunity sword
She must win an ic somewhere in there. But which one?
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12-11-03, 10:28 AM (EST)
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76. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
This challenge not only requires balance but it may also require some strategy. Absolutely! Jon may actually have an advantage in this being a chess player. He was the one making the strategic moves in the chinese checker challenge that Drake "threw". And yes, I'm still trying to qualify those damned initialled canteens. It's possible that the canteens are already filled and spread out over the course. Each with their initial on it so you can only take one from each area. You negotiate the course, get a canteen go fill a tube, lower your plank, move to the next spot...go find another canteen...etc., etc. OR The canteens are NOT pre-filled. They have to go find a canteen, fill it, then go to the tube, fill that, lower the plank...etc., etc. OR I need to leave it alone and they each are given their own initalled canteen at the beginning. End of story. Damn it's hard being an obsessive compulsive Virgo sometimes!
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12-11-03, 11:31 AM (EST)
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81. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
New Pics at FEVER:
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83. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
Then, Burton has two planks down...butt is working behind the second plank not working at the same place Darrah isI think he's coming back from getting his canteen filled Vols. If you look at it in sequence, he's manuvering around the post to get to his next position. And is this Lil or Jon circled in red?
I ask because if it's Jon then possibilty it's Sandra who falls in? If it's Lil then it's Jon who falls in?
Maybe no one falls in?
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12-11-03, 11:49 AM (EST)
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85. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-03 AT 11:53 AM (EST)Misto...doesn't that have to be Lil in the corner of 9? I say that because in the first ones (pics)of Jon don't we see Lil in the background...meaning she is on his left? Is that how you see it? ETA: If you guys will look at the original pics (at the beginning of this thresd)...the ones of Darrah have to be towards the end of the challange or at least farther in the challenge. Her tube top has completely fallen...her skirt is sagging and she is wet. However, in the new pics...she is still fairly well in tack!
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89. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
what's the stand/tower for over Jiffy's left shoulder ==>?
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84. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
They probably have to start over if they fall off the plank
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12-11-03, 01:01 PM (EST)
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96. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-03 AT 01:25 PM (EST)Darrah appears to be working on her third plank. She may have already filled her canteen (?) Burton looks like he went to fill up his canteen to go back to work on his third plank. Sandra just lowered her second plank The shot of Darrah considering the background (there is another shot like this but you can see the flag in it) places Darrah near where Jeff would be then so the shot could be at any point after she perhaps filled her canteen or started the challenge(?) With the ariel view, looks like there are about five/six planks so at this point that we see the challenge could still be up for grabs anyway 
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99. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
If falling in the water eliminates you from the game, why would Lill/Jon be climbing back onto the platform at the challenge starting point? I'm thinking that if you fall in you have to swim back to the beginning and I'm also thinking that some people might choose to swim back to the start rather than walk back on balance beams.So who does this challenge favor? Here's what I think, in order from best to worst.
1. Burton - fast, agile, endurance, swimmer
2. Darrah - fast, agile, endurance?, swimmer
3. Jon - fast, agile, swimmer?
4. Sandra - totally sucks at everything
5. Lill - totally sucks at everything even worse than Sandra But! If falling in the water gets you eliminated, then I think Sandra's chances improve considerably because she's probably slow and cautious while Burton, Darrah, and Jon are all sprinters who might fall in. Guess we'll find out soon... -P
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mistofleas 8043 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-11-03, 02:47 PM (EST)
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103. "RE: Immunity Challenge S7 Episode 12" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-03 AT 02:48 PM (EST)ETA: SWOOP! Good job grasshoppa! You have learned much!
--is always happy when a friend swoops
edited to fix her words
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I didn't think he would rant with Darrah or Lillian there. Boy a lot would be solved if we knew when this was happening. If after the IC, I could see him slightly freaking if Burton won immunity and it was pretty clear he was up next to go.............
We really do have 
