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"SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time to Vote!"
Well, sorta. We don't really KNOW for sure that there's even going to BE a boot this week, what with the whole splitting of episode 7 into two weeks. But just in case, perhaps we should do this thing, huh.

The Rules

1. Please put the name of your choice for this week's bootee IN THE SUBJECT HEADING! This is really easy. Just erase the bit where it says "Re: SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time to Vote!" and replace with your vote, i.e., Rupert. This makes it easier to tally votes quickly and accurately. Oh, and btw... nicknames are tougher to tally unless they're REALLY obvious without actually reading your vote.

2. Reply ONLY to this post! Curves on women are good. Curves on vote threads are bad. The first part bears repeating: I like curves on women. Y'know, I'm not sure if I've been clear enough about this. Curves on women are really great things.

EXCEPTION TO RULE 2! VOTE CHANGES!

If it just so happens that you wanna change your vote for whatever reason, REPLY TO YOUR ORIGINAL POST! Your new post heading should read "VOTE CHANGE: Osten (or Whoever)". That said, there is not an exception to the fact that curves on women are good.

3. THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION THREAD! DO NOT TREAT IT AS SUCH! There are plenty of places on the Spoilers Forum to debate the merits of people's arguments. Let's keep it out of here, please. Or I keel.

4. No sig pics! It was suggested that because this can be such a long thread, sig pics make it really hard to load for folks with dial-up connections. So show some respect to your slower brethren (and sistren). And really, if I can refrain from flashing my beautiful greens and making people all swoony, surely you can refrain just this once from extolling IceCat's animated glory, no?

Somehow, this week has been completely shoutout-free. Perhaps that's an indicator that it will be boot-free as well? Hmm. Well, have fun anyway!

Criminals From the Neck UpThe Writers' Rendez-VousSmokeLong Quarterly

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Shawn / Ryan O. LozengeofLove 10-28-03 1
 Darrah SherpaDave 10-28-03 2
 Shawn tribalwatcher 10-28-03 3
 Ben Mulroney - (Seriously, though n... strid333 10-28-03 4
 Andrew oddout 10-28-03 5
 Ryan O. AND Shawn rose 10-28-03 6
 Osten quits 1unatic 10-28-03 7
   Vote Change: Osten and Shawn 1unatic 10-30-03 99
 Andrew Loquatrix 10-28-03 8
 No one ExInterper 10-28-03 9
   Osten buckeyegirl 10-28-03 11
   VOTE CHANGE: Osten & Shawn ExInterper 10-30-03 106
 Ep 7A Osten quits; Jon voted out Chez 10-28-03 10
 shawn & osten badger 10-28-03 12
 Ryan O. KeithFan 10-28-03 13
 Shawn and Rhino KObrien_fan 10-28-03 14
 Ryan O. and Shawn Krautboy 10-28-03 15
 Rhino AND Shawn cqvenus 10-28-03 16
 Shawn & Ryan O. I_Got_Nutn 10-29-03 17
 Ryan O & Rupert mavsfan 10-29-03 18
 Osten Silvergirl1 10-29-03 19
 Hey Shawn, it's time for you to go! Round Robin 10-29-03 20
 SHAWN and Osten benjapol 10-29-03 21
 Shawn and RyanO PepeLePew13 10-29-03 22
 Andrew SurvivorJoel 10-29-03 23
 No One Nash 10-29-03 24
   RE: Change - Shawn & Osten Nash 10-30-03 89
 Osten fakes injury - quits pmspml5 10-29-03 26
 Osten ousted ElroyJetson 10-29-03 27
 Shawn & Osten ejm92 10-29-03 28
 Osten/Rupert rnabring 10-29-03 29
 RyanO and Shawn scante60a 10-29-03 30
 Shawn & Rhino Jayzzzy 10-29-03 31
   Vote Tally #1 rose 10-29-03 32
 Shawn/Osten Breezy 10-29-03 33
 Shawn and Osten DeltMIA 10-29-03 34
 Oston/Jon hrc2u 10-29-03 35
 Shawn and Rhino Bebo 10-29-03 36
 RE: Shawn and Ryan O greg2557 10-29-03 37
 Ryan O. and Shawn jkokoj 10-29-03 38
 Shawn and Rhino NTK 10-29-03 39
 Ryan O and Shawn go; Lillian and Bu... AyaK 10-29-03 40
 Osten and Jon Spidey 10-29-03 41
 Shawn/Ryan O wendyp 10-29-03 42
 Tijuana and Sandra Oscirus 10-29-03 43
 RyanO & Jon pancho 10-29-03 44
 Ryan O/Shawn bobstew617 10-29-03 45
 Osten/Shawn Jims02 10-29-03 46
 Shawn & Rhino LeftPinky 10-29-03 47
 Andrew and Shawn aethelstan 10-29-03 48
 Ryan O and Shawn O2dawg 10-29-03 49
 Shawn and RyanO Blow by Blow 10-29-03 50
 Osten & Jon BrykMantra 10-29-03 51
 Shawn and Osten Devious Weasel 10-29-03 52
 RyanO and Jon lizzmac 10-29-03 53
 Shawn and Ryno Corvis 10-29-03 54
 Rhino/Shawn smrtNsassybnkr 10-29-03 55
 RyanO/Shawn redbeard103152 10-29-03 56
 Shawn and Rhino frisky 10-29-03 57
 No one but if....Osten RoxRen 10-29-03 58
 Shawn / Ryan O. mistofleas 10-29-03 59
   Jon and Andrew mindella29 10-29-03 61
 Ryan O dabo 10-29-03 60
   Vote Tally #2 rose 10-29-03 62
 tijanda bris 10-29-03 63
 Shawn/RyanO railfan 10-29-03 64
 Osten Steen 10-29-03 65
 Andrew and Jon Laurieish 10-29-03 66
 Osten & Jon PlumBlossom 10-29-03 67
 Shawn and Ryan O leave blacknwhitedog 10-29-03 68
 Rayn O. & Shawn whoami 10-29-03 69
 Jon & Osten moonbaby 10-29-03 70
 Osten bergdogg 10-29-03 71
 Shawn/Rhino IslandFever 10-29-03 72
 Osten quits joannie 10-29-03 73
 Shawn & Ryan O raven 10-30-03 74
 Rupert Yogi 10-30-03 75
 Shawn/Osten Draco Malfoy 10-30-03 76
 Osten and Shawn Thaibeach 10-30-03 77
 Ryan & Shawn queencityfan 10-30-03 78
 Jon janisella 10-30-03 79
 Shawn & Ryan O. macamrox 10-30-03 80
 Ryan O and Shawn DoodleBug 10-30-03 81
 Shawn and Ryan O. get voted out Brownroach 10-30-03 82
 Osten lroy 10-30-03 83
 Osten and Jon JazzyJax 10-30-03 84
 Andrew VerucaSalt 10-30-03 85
 Rupert Spanky68 10-30-03 86
 Osten texcanldy 10-30-03 87
 Shawn/Ryan O. okaloosajohn 10-30-03 88
 Osten... udg 10-30-03 90
 Shawn and Rhino FesterFan1 10-30-03 91
 Shawn/Osten cowboyroo 10-30-03 92
 Shawn/Osten volsfan 10-30-03 93
 Rupert and Osten maxnmb702 10-30-03 94
 Shawn/Osten zzz 10-30-03 95
   Lazy x 2 Shawn & Osten fishtank 10-30-03 96
 Nobody Loree 10-30-03 97
 SHAWN/RHINO wildchickenhunter 10-30-03 98
 Shawn/Osten bebekid 10-30-03 100
 Shawn/Ryan O zorrosurvives 10-30-03 102
 Andrew/Osten JLude 10-30-03 103
 Osten sleeeve 10-30-03 104
 Shawn/Osten travelingbetty 10-30-03 105
 Vote Tally #3 GuessItRains 10-30-03 107
 Osten MDSkinner 10-30-03 108
 Osten and Shawn LookeeLoo 10-30-03 109
 JON/OSTEN Dalton 10-30-03 110
 Shawn/Ryno mtopaz 10-30-03 111

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LozengeofLove 1060 desperate attention whore postings
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10-28-03, 07:05 PM (EST)
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1. "Shawn / Ryan O."
They both leave. Just 'cause I say so.
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10-28-03, 07:14 PM (EST)
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2. "Darrah"
The usual reasons.
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3. "Shawn"
I'm always wrong, so why stop now. I think Osten is gone too. And Lillian comes back, maybe Burton too.
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4. "Ben Mulroney - (Seriously, though non-elim week)"
On second thought, maybe I want him to remain in reality tv. I don’t want him to consider going into politics. His dad did a good enough job of royally #*%@ing with our country. If Ben goes into politics and is half as bad as his dad, we’re in trouble again. And all those pre-teen girls, cheering to find out if Ben was wearing boxers or briefs, would probably vote for him.

So I’ll change my vote to the useless waste of glittery skin, Julie Chen.

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5. "Andrew"
I think that with the Ghosties moving in that they will try to get rid of the so called leaders.

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6. "Ryan O. AND Shawn"
LAST EDITED ON 10-28-03 AT 07:42 PM (EST)

or maybe no one..

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7. "Osten quits"
no regular vote.
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99. "Vote Change: Osten and Shawn"
'Cause snewser said so
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8. "Andrew"
He's the victim of a coup orchestrated by Osten, who starts showing some gumption this week.
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9. "No one"
The more I think about it, and the more I pore over the various threads on the subject, the more I believe that no one gets bounced until next week.

Of course, for me the million dollar question now becomes how MB is going to milk the twist into a full hour of "compelling programing". But if anyone can, it's MB. Or it might just not be compelling. Eh.

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11. "Osten"
Please let it be so!!! No real reason, but one can only hope and pray that he finaly quits. I don't think I can stand hearing the promos every of other week of "A player may quit..."


"The purpose of life is to live it, to reach out eagerly and without fear for newer and richer experience."
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106. "VOTE CHANGE: Osten & Shawn"
Just call me a sheep.

DAMN YOU SNEWSER!!

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10-28-03, 08:31 PM (EST)
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10. "Ep 7A Osten quits; Jon voted out"
Lil and Burton return.
In Ep 7B, Ryan O is voted out
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12. "shawn & osten"
drake boots shawn (emphasis on jon in promos = misdirection)

morgan boots osten (andrew finally gets sick of him and/or osten's poor effort costs morgan the RC)

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13. "Ryan O."
This will be the infamous victem of the twist episode, somehow, someway, but nobody really knows how it will work.
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14. "Shawn and Rhino"
Shawn and Rhino get the boot, Lill and Burton resurrect and the tribes merge into Balboa.
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10-28-03, 11:18 PM (EST)
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15. "Ryan O. and Shawn"
EPISODE 7 – Part 1 (Day 19):

The previews for this week appear to be serving up another batch of double misdirection. Much like last week, we’ve been shown that Rupert will be upset with Jon and that Andrew is once again concerned about Osten “throwing in the towel”. Double misdirection.

The tribes will arrive for the challenge and be surprised by the return of the Ghost tribe. As the spoiling community has been speculating since the preseason, the Ghosties will compete for a chance to re-enter the game.

The nature of the challenge and the vidcap analysis both seem to suggest a Ghost Tribe victory, recently confirmed by a tip to Survivor Phoenix and TDT:

“As initially reported (see Ghost Tribe Competes), should the Ghost Tribe win, Drake and Morgan will have to vote out a player each. Since we have various spoilers of returning players, it is most likely that we will indeed see a Ghost Tribe win on Thursday.

We have also learned that if it wins the mega challenge, the Ghost Tribe will then vote 2 people back in to replace the newly booted players and that individual players cannot vote for themselves. With the Ghost Tribe comprised of an equal number of ex-Drakes and ex-Morgans, it is probable that the returning players will feature one from each tribe. Descriptions by various spoilers of returning players were said to fit best Lillian and Burton.”

Lillian’s return to the game as the “older woman” is supported by strong foreshadowing at the time of her boot, post boot interviews, and a reported 30 lb weight loss.

Burton’s return as the “dark-haired man” is supported by the MR411 spoiler of his participation in the family visit, and his curious disappearance from the game with almost no character development.

Apparently the Ghost tribe will win the challenge, after which Jeff will probably say, “See you all tonight at TC”. A few confessionals, a little talk about strategy and then it’s off to TC.

Since we've got all this voting to deal with, it seems logical that all three tribes go to a special TC where each tribe does their voting....

All three tribes arrive and take a place around the fire, with the Ghosts appearing last.

Jeff will explain that the Ghost tribe will vote two tribe members to return, and the Morgan and Drake must each vote to someone to the Ghost Tribe.

First the Ghosties vote who will return. Lillian and Burton make sense if the tribe members are not allowed to vote for themselves and they vote along tribal lines.

The Morgan Tribe will decide between Osten, the potential quitter, and Ryno, the post merge challenge threat who befriended Rupert. The VicVega spoiler, confessional analysis and misdirection for Osten, all point to Ryno as one of the new Ghosts.

The Drake Tribe will decide between Jon, who betrayed Rupert and Shawn, the lazy, unliked, outsider who is an untrustworthy challenge threat post-merge. The SNN scorecard, misdirection for Jon and game logic all point to Shawn as the other new Ghost.

The votes will be read, after which the Ghosts will symbolically relight their torches off those of the player they replace…because ”fire is life”. The Ghosts will take their place with their respective tribe, as Ryan and Shawn’s torches are extinguished…

“The tribe has spoken” and the new Ghost tribe disappears into the night…”to be continued”…


Episode 7 -- Part 2:

The game continues with the Marriage/Merge celebration the next day (Day 20), followed by the first Individual IC and TC on the third day (Day 21), when a “seventh person is voted off the islands”…


Krautboy

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16. "Rhino AND Shawn"
if 2 go in, 2 have to go out. not sure why they'd vote out rhino on morgan, but methinks somehow maybe the ghosties have a say and that might be the reason. methinks too that shawn would go b/c he was supposed to be burton's friend, and he kinda betrayed him so it shouldn't be too hard for burt to convince the ghosties that shawn should go instead of him. what i don't understand is why everyone is so hung up on betrayal when that's what the flippin game is all about!!!
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17. "Shawn & Ryan O."
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18. "Ryan O & Rupert"
Andrew's had enough of Osten, But he's not driving the Bus at Morgan, Tijuana is. I think she will be more confident of controlling Osten's voting that she will about controlling Ryan O so Ryan goes. This agrees with the spoiler that Ryan O was voted out because of a switch or something.

For all the bickering between Jon and Shawn I think it's all staged like WWF and that they are really in league together. If someone want's to vote Shawn out, they'll get Jon's help. If someone wants to get Jon out they will recruite Shawn. This allows them to see boot threats coming and to make contegency plans. Knowing Jon's neck is on the Block, The Big Lie occurs this week, and Jon needs to divide Rupert and the Girls, I think Jon tells a whale of a lie that gets Rupert voted out.

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19. "Osten"

Just want him gone.

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20. "Hey Shawn, it's time for you to go!"
And regardless of how the Twist works, you will go. But who goes with you if Drake loses somebody else, I haven't got figured out yet. But you're outta there for sure.
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10-29-03, 05:48 AM (EST)
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21. "SHAWN and Osten"
Shawn is a sure bet this week. Jon is safe because of the promo. Rupert,Christa,Sandra are the core alliance. Rupert is controlling Drake because he has Christa's ears. Shawn backstabbed so many people too early in the game. No one will trust him. Rupert has wanted Shawn gone from Day1 and he's always said he'd lie and cheat to win. So his alliance with Shawn is null. Plus I think Jon also has a secret alliance with Sandra, and maybe with Rupert or Christa as well.

TDT is sure two people are voted off this week. So for Morgan, Darrah is the obvious but Snewser has her as a final2 so she's somehow safe. Andrew and Tijuana are also super safe. And despite all the stupid unconfirmed spoilers, Rhino is safe as well. There's completely no reason for the Morgans to vote him off. Plus he has a one-on-one alliance with Andrew, the puppetmaster. Even if Lill votes at TC, it would be Osten anyway. Remember she wanted to vote for Osten when he wanted out.
And if Burton goes to Morgan, there's no need to keep Osten anymore. And Burton wouldn't vote for Rhino. He said in the chat that his first alliance choice would be Rhino. We've seen him ally with Shawn right away so why wouldn't he ally with Rhino?

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22. "Shawn and RyanO"
Yeah... what Krautboy said, makes the most sense of all.

There's simply too much spoiler evidence going out there for it to be anything other than a Shawn/RyanO exit and a Lillian/Burton entrance, and it makes a lot of sense it happens this way in the first part with an individual IC and a merged boot in part two.

Backup vote: Osten and Jon.

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23. "Andrew"
I'll stick to my speculation that GT will only compete in the reward challenges and I'm soooo hoping there won't be any returning LLLLLosers!

I hope to see a regular TC. Based on the VidCaps, the episode seems to focus more on Morgan, with Andrew and Osten as mainplayers. Osten's very wussy pefrormance has brought him far in the game. His alliances are not that obvious until now, and for sure he has (look, he lasted this long!!!). Andrew is seen complaining, once again, about Osten checking out. Reminds me of Trish complaining about how rupert had so much power.

Alternate: Ryan O.

P.S. I happen to vote for the two people I secretly hope would be F2. Oh well . . .

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24. "No One"
Don't know why - I guess 2 return. Osten may quit..may! Do we really believe that.
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89. "RE: Change - Shawn & Osten"
SNEWSER's posted and that's what he says and he says he's right too.
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26. "Osten fakes injury - quits"
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27. "Osten ousted"
EJ
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28. "Shawn & Osten"
Both guys voted out by their original tribes when the Ghosts win the challenge....Osten doesn't quit but asks to be booted.
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29. "Osten/Rupert"
They've been playing up the "wow...we have two strong guys left on each team" a bit too much for my liking. They must be leaving soon.
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30. "RyanO and Shawn"
I'm thinking that this is the twist that does in Ryan, and now that Drake has booted Trish, they'll go back to the original plan and toss Shawn.
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31. "Shawn & Rhino"
makes as much sense as anything .... this season has taught me not to overthink the picks...when I do, I am wrong.
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32. "Vote Tally #1"
LAST EDITED ON 10-29-03 AT 08:55 AM (EST)

There's two ways to look at this:

Combined votes:
Ryan O. & Shawn: 10
Darrah: 1
Shawn: 2
No One: 3
Andrew: 3
Osten Quits: 4
Osten Booted: 3
Jon: 1
Shawn & Osten: 2
Ryan O: 1
Ryan O & Rupert: 1
Osten & Rupert: 1

(total of 32 votes with the Osten quits; jon booted counting as two votes.)

Or, this way which is much easier:
Ryan O.-12
Shawn-14
Darrah-1
Andrew-3
Osten-10
Rupert-2
Jon-1
No Boot-3

(take into account many double votes, that's why numbers don't add up to posts.)


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33. "Shawn/Osten"
Using logic, instead of misdirection and all that stuff. Hope I'm right.
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34. "Shawn and Osten"
Lil and maybe Burton come back to replace them
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35. "Oston/Jon"
I think they will make a cute couple so, cut their ropes at the same time.
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36. "Shawn and Rhino"
Spoilers show the ghost tribe competing for the chance to come back. There are plenty of reports putting Lillian and Burton further in the game, so if we're staying even, two must leave.

Shawn - Obvious Drake choice. He's on the outside, even if he saved his neck last week. Jon is safe right now because he's absolutely perfect to keep around. After merge, he'll be the first Morgan target, since they hate him after his looting trip. This fits into Sandra's strategy of finding someone else to be the target. And besides, he would be a good final 2 buddy.

Rhino - We've been shown the critical comments by Andrew in Yahoo! insider to show their alliance isn't as strong as initially portrayed. Add me to the list who sees the Osten whining as misdirection. Why keep Osten around instead of Rhino? The same reason Drake keeps Jon around - to give the other tribe an obvious target after merge. Andrew knows he has a target on his back after his awesome performance in the last IC, since he showed his challenge strength. But with Osten still in the game, would the other tribe target the strong man who doesn't help around camp and whines all the time instead of him? Probably. So that means sacrificing Ryan.

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37. "RE: Shawn and Ryan O"
Krautboy makes sence, so I'll go with that this week.
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38. "Ryan O. and Shawn"
Curving women, I knew I *hearted* sherpa for a reason!
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39. "Shawn and Rhino"
Shawn because he is strong and basically unallied. Also, to make sure he does not reup with Burton or Michelle.

Rhino because Andrew, TJ, and Osten are close. Also, because he is close to Rupert and also strong. I could still see Osten quitting but he probably "decides" to stay once again.

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40. "Ryan O and Shawn go; Lillian and Burton return"
We've all known (right?) that Lillian was coming back. We had rumors of a Burton family visit. So ... that means at least two people would have to go in this episode.

We also think that there are still at least 10 players in the game because of Mark Burnett's decision to call this a 2-part episode. So ... that indicates a replacement, not a "vote off."

Two possibilities: 1. the tribe that finishes third is eliminated, bringing all the "ghosts" back and knocking out a whole group of people that we've come to know. VERY bad TV. *or* 2. each tribe dumps one "loner" if the ghosts win. Which makes more sense? Obviously 2.

And so, I vote with Krautboy for the not-at-all-obvious "obvious" solution. Rhino and Shawn get the boot. Why Shawn and not Jon? Heck, I don't know. Lillian and Burton return, simply because they are the two for whom we have evidence of a return. And everyone has to be happy. Yeah, that'll be easy when the dead return to life. Uh, shouldn't this the the "zombie" tribe or the "undead" instead of the "ghosts"?

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41. "Osten and Jon"

To make room for 2 Ghosties who will prolly be vote back in in Ep. 7B, Drake and Morgan each have to cut one of their own loose.

Osten either quits or threatens to and is tossed by his disgusted teammates. Spoilers be damned - why would Morgan get rid of RyanO instead of Polly Prissypants?

Maybe Shawn goes from Drake, but Jon is out there on his own and Shawn is a less threatening sheep. I'm guessing Jon.



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42. "Shawn/Ryan O"
Not sure this week, but agree with all the spoiler that it points to one person from each tribe. The only question is until the merger do the original Drake and morgan go to their same tribe or the other one?
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43. "Tijuana and Sandra"
The fiesty sisers go away and Ryan S and Michelle come back and then go on to have the first survivor baby ever


I cant believe how much i rule

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44. "RyanO & Jon"
I can't see the drakes voting out another stong guy if they think that they are still competing as a team. It's got to be Jon.
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45. "Ryan O/Shawn"
It will be sad for me to see Rhino go--he really grew on me, but I will go with the spoilers as it is typical for MB to misdirect us. Something may happen with Osten, but he will stay in the game--for now. (Yes, I think Lillian and Burton will be the returnees)

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46. "Osten/Shawn"
My only spoiling of the week. Hey, if I'm gonna take a break, it may as well be now.

Let's go through each castaway, one by one.

Let's start with the Family Reward spoilers. I am assuming that these must have been done AFTER the ghosties come back in. This way MB would know which to contact, and would still have enough time to fly them down.

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The flight reservations for Roberts, Waydo, Boneham and Bradley Williams were all made for the same dates coming and going. The only person that had a flight change was Laura and that ticket was purchased that day, so I doubt that it was a previous engagement, otherwise they would have booked the flight originally for that day, instead of for the 21st of July.

This covers Burton, Christa, Rupert, and Darrah as SAFE this week.

As posted by Veruca recently, this was also learned...

And as far as Lil getting back into the game, yes she does, her husband Lonnie flew with the rest of the loved ones. If you don't believe me, watch the show.........

That obviously means Lillian is SAFE.

This also means that Lil and Burton are our two returnees.

So, who does that leave?

Sandra is looking pretty good right now. She's in a major alliance, with Rupert as a shield.

Diagnosis: SAFE

Tijuana seems to be the person pulling the strings at Morgan IMO. I really don't see Osten, Andrew, Darrah, or Ryan O turning on her.

SAFE

Osten is suddenly very interesting... He suddenly was downgraded on Snewser's scorecard. Granted, that was two episodes ago, but I don't feel the situation has changed yet for the Morgan tribe. We were not shown how Ryan O wants to keep Darrah around.

One castaway makes a momentuous decision, right? I think this is basically Osten wanting to quit. Since we're coming into the merge, I can see Andrew wanting to finally get rid of the crybaby. He points that out to Darrah and Ryno, and the deal is done.

Would they tell Tijuana? Perhaps. It doesn't really matter.

TROUBLE

If Andrew wanted to boot Osten, it may very well backfire. Andrew tells Darrah, Darrah tells Tijuana, Tijuana tells Osten.

Darrah, Osten, Tijuana vote out Andrew.

TROUBLE

Lately, I haven't been buying into the Ryan O theory as much. The VicVega spoiler has already been wrong twice, and PM's spoiler wasn't rock solid either.

However, I can see a Ryan boot too. Andrew may be irked by Ryan's plot to keep Darrah and vote him off.

TROUBLE

Jon and Shawn are the biggest possibilities on Drake. It really depends on who Drake wants to get rid of. Jon seems like the obvious boot.

However, with Burton coming back into the game, why would they keep Shawn? Especially with the merge coming soon! If I found out that one of our boot candidate's ally is coming back, I'd vote off the potential threat.

Also, the Big Lie has definitely not happened yet, but I think it's coming VERY SOON (What The?). If Jon is the Big Liar, how could the lie be brilliant, if he gets voted off this week?

These reasons make me believe that Shawn and Osten will get the boot this week.

Quite ironic too (which I love!) since Shawn would be giving his fire to Burton and Osten would be giving it to Lil, who voted against him.

I might change my vote though to just one of them though. Didn't one of the previews say something about "another person is voted out of the tribe"?

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47. "Shawn & Rhino"
Ghost Tribe beats both Drake and Morgan, so get to vote in one Drake and one Morgan. (Lil & Burton return)

Drake and Morgan must each vote someone out after their Challenge loss... can't argue with KB's reasoning, so snuff your torches Rhino and Shawn...

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48. "Andrew and Shawn"
Something that JPro said about Osten's episode 7B being huge = he ain't going home in 7A. I think the Ryan spoilers have been largely discredited. I had the opinion that Andrew wasn't as much in control as he thinks he is and that Tijuana, seeing how much will power Andrew has (and thus the ability to win II) will get Darrah and Osten to vote with her to oust Andrew.

If the returning ghosts get to vote, too, then Andrew is even more likely to go

Jon hasn't shown himself to be overly squirrely yet so he must stay. That really only leaves Shawn. Unless Rupert loses it and hits someone.

And, if Mr411 is to be believed and he seems to be a reasonable source. Lillian and Burton return.

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49. "Ryan O and Shawn"
putting a few spoilers together, seems to be the most likely. Cant wait to see the outcome
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50. "Shawn and RyanO"
For exactly the reasons Krautboy spelled out in this thread and other places. (Ghosts win IC, two need to get booted, Andrew keeps Osten 'cause he's an idiot (big regret), Drakes ditch the last of the in-crowd because they all want to keep Jon as the guy who doesn't have a prayer in f2.)

I don't think the returning Ghosts will be determined in this episode (that's the hook to make us watch Ep.7b).

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51. "Osten & Jon"
Screw logic, this is who I *WANT* to go: Worse-Than-Useless Osten, and raging idiot Jon.

Walk tha plank, ya scurvy dogs!

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52. "Shawn and Osten"
Osten because he quits; Shawn because Jon is valuable as a F2 opponent.
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53. "RyanO and Jon"
I'm in the camp that thinks if the Ghosties win the challenge, BOTH tribes have to vote out someone. Andrew's irritation level with Ryan is rising, and he could get at least Osten and Tijuana to vote with him. My initial thought for the Drakes was Shawn, but even though he seems to be odd man out with everyone except Jon, I think the others will realize, with a possible merge an uncertainty because of the Big Twist, that they should hold onto his strength for a bit.

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54. "Shawn and Ryno"
The cage challenge seems to be in the same spot as a RC, right? So when you win a RC this season, you get to steal something from the other tribe. The Ghosts win and steal two torches - one from Morgan and one from Drake. Either it's random which torches are stolen or they choose specific ones. In any case, I am going with Shawn and Ryno getting knocked out.

Lil and Burton return (voted in by the ghosts or they win some sort of challenge).

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55. "Rhino/Shawn"
I don't think Osten will quit....although I wish he would.
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56. "RyanO/Shawn"
The ghosties win the RC and are allowed to vote two members back into the game. Lilian whos return was forshadowed in an earlier TC and Burton the former leader of the Drakes will be elected to return.By losing the RC to the Ghosties both Morgan and Drake will go to TC and each boot one member. In my opinion Ryan O will be the boot from Morgan as he is the victim of the twist. And Shawn will go from Drake because the rest of the members will not trust him as he keeps hopping back and forth between alliances.
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57. "Shawn and Rhino"
Because Krautboy explained it so well.
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58. "No one but if....Osten"
I am liking the idea that whoever loses to the ghost tribe votes off a player. In the event that both teams need to vote someone off...I think I like Shawn to go too.
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59. "Shawn / Ryan O."
I'm going with that the GT wins the IC (or whatever it's going to be called) and both Drake and Morgan vote out a member. Shawn is the logical vote on Drake. It should be Jon but Shawn is still odd man out (at least in my mind).

Morgan will vote out Ryan O because they still think they need Osten. (stoopid but true).

I can't tell if it's going to be 1 TC in 7A and another TC in 7B or both tomorrow night so I'm setting the vote up as Shawn and Ryan O. Whether all tomorrow or not.

mistofleas --doesn't like her reality messed with and that's what MB is doing

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61. "Jon and Andrew"
I think it will definately be shawn, but the other side is tricky. It is between Osten and Andrew in my opinion. Im sorry but I believe the casino scandal. So Osten the big baby remains.

I think the returning members get to choose who will take thier place in loser lodge. If it is Lillian she will take Andrew since she has bad feelings toward him, and feel that Osten is easier to beat in the end. If Burton returns he will take Jon out of the game since he was a big liar.

This would leave 10 people. I think there will be two imunity challenges in Episode # 7. I think they will have a second immunity challenge and the lsing tribe will vote off a member. Than there will be the right amount of people at the end of tommorows episode. The third boot could be Ryan O. who got switched to 3 former Drakes members.

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60. "Ryan O"
have had little time for spoiling, having been empanelled as a juror on a federal case, so just going with my gut here. Too many returnees would just roon the game, y'know.
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62. "Vote Tally #2"
I just did it on individual counts, the other way sucked..

Shawn:34
Ryan O.: 30
Osten: 17
Jon: 7
Andrew: 5
No Boot: 4
Rupert: 2
Tijuana: 1
Sandra: 1
Darrah: 1

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63. "tijanda"
i think the first 6 voted out choose someone to leave ryan o had no enemy either did lil or trish. Berton and Michelle i cant see them voting off shawn yet. I think NICOLE REALLY WILL GET HER REVENGE ON TIJANDA
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64. "Shawn/RyanO"
makes the most sense...M&D both lose and have to vote out one each. I think GT also votes in two this week(one for each tribe defeated in the challenge). Merge in ep 7B, then one more voted out of the merged tribe after an II. Don't have to guess on that until next week.
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65. "Osten"
LAST EDITED ON 10-29-03 AT 06:53 PM (EST)

Osten, or Jon, I hope.

I dont want my favorites leaving, but i have a feeling one of them will be gone

Edited b/c I accidentily left my sig pic in. Sorry!

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66. "Andrew and Jon"
Random Guessing
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67. "Osten & Jon"
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68. "Shawn and Ryan O leave"
Lil and Burton return
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69. "Rayn O. & Shawn"
2 go this week, 2 come in next week.

WHOAMI
If we just think about this we can figure it out.

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70. "Jon & Osten"
Make it so.

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71. "Osten"
Whiny bastard will take a hike.
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72. "Shawn/Rhino"
Last episode when Shawn voted for Trish he said,"the game is mine now." I think that was foreshadowing, setting him up for a fall. Osten and Andrew have uncompleted story lines with Miss Lillian so they stay. Osten wanting to leave is like Jenna last season, not gonna happen. Not yet anyway. And Burton comes back too with Miss Lil. Such an original idea. Not.
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73. "Osten quits"
According to another spoiler, SeeBS is promoting "the latest Survivor" (note singular) to be on Friday's Early Show, so I think someone has to leave this week. I don't think there will be a vote or a Tribal Council until Part 2.
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74. "Shawn & Ryan O"
Ghost Tribe Wins!! bye shawn...bye ryan O

Lillian, Ryan S, and Burton back in the game

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75. "Rupert"
Caught a glimpse of a late night commercial on Global TV (Toronto) that showed
Rupert getting his torch snuffed. I have no vidcaps for proof but in reality all
it proves is that Rupert does not win the game. I am thinking that a technician
played the wrong commercial as they have not replayed it.
I am guessing Rupert goes beserk over Jon's vote against him and 'regrets' his
behaviour as his tribe gives him the boot.
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76. "Shawn/Osten"
I'm going under the assumption that whoever returns will replace one member from each tribe. Or not. I don't know any more.

Alternates: Jon/Andrew

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77. "Osten and Shawn"
GT wins RC/IC/?C - both Morgan and Drake must vote someone out.

Osten, the wuss, finally quits. Jubilation ensues among S7 fans everywhere!! Osten has finally done something useful for the Morons; now they won't have to vote someone out. (...And by the way, Jiffy, if the Big Regret is that Wussy regrets wussing out and whines and cries afterward, you're a Big Doofus.)

Shawn is voted out of Drake 'cause he's untrustworthy, mealymouthed and just plain annoying. (Let's hope Jonny Fairplay follows him out the door shortly.)

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78. "Ryan & Shawn"
Wrong place and time for these two, although it's typical for strong men to be voted out before the merge, so even without any twists and turns it makes sense.
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79. "Jon"
I'm going to keep picking him until he goes (unless MB throws us an obvious bone otherwise)
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80. "Shawn & Ryan O."
DRAKE:

Ruppert + Christa + Sandra = solid alliance

Jon - is not a threat and will easily get picked off post-merge.

Shawn - most vulnerable. has better chance of winning individual immunity challenges. likely to join up with Morgan's voting block post-merge.

MORGAN:

Andrew + Tijuana = solid

Osten - liked by AT (in the cool cliche - like high school). vulnerable because he is lazy, worthless, and a complainer.

Darrah - has no choice but to go with the flow (AT). no known alliances. spoiler suggests she's around for awhile.

Ryan O. - AT may suspect he'd join Ruppert's voting block post-merge.

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81. "Ryan O and Shawn"
I don't have a clue....

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82. "Shawn and Ryan O. get voted out"
I don't feel overly secure about these picks. The "Ryan is victim of a switch" spoiler reminds me too much of the false "Alex is victim of a switch" spoiler in S6; and the lack of any post-game tips about Shawn had me wondering if he goes pretty far.

Still, I'm picking these two mostly because I can see reasons or evidence or misdirection why everyone else would NOT be leaving this week. I'd love to pick Osten, but with the previews, Eyemail and Jeff Probst all talking about him, I can't think MB is going to wave the boot in our faces for his precious Twist episode. Maybe he goes in Part 2.

And it's pretty clear that Lillian and Burton will be the returnees. I think we may not find that out until Part 2 though.

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83. "Osten "
I think he quits in 7A and the ghost tribe doesn't make their appearance until the end setting up the bringing back of the dead and the boot for 7B.

~lroy

(not touching the vote tally this week it scares me...)

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84. "Osten and Jon"
Just 'cuz I want them to go...

JJ

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85. "Andrew"
LAST EDITED ON 10-30-03 AT 11:51 AM (EST)

I'm actually enjoying this season so much more as I am actually guessing most of the time. I've made no bones on "tendencies be damned" I'm saying who I want to say.

Andrew told Lillian he'd get back to her. He is

ETA, I guess I should add a second boot if it is a combined TC. If Burton is the gentleman returning, I guess Shawn may pass his torch to him.

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86. "Rupert"
I don't spoil as well as most experts on these boards. I can't follow it all. But I have a gut feeling Rupert is canned somehow in this episode.
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87. "Osten"
I think it's time for him to go.
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88. "Shawn/Ryan O."
But I wish it were Osten and Jon...

Okaloosajohn

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90. "Osten..."
I think Osten is the next one out, but I think the vote might not happen until next episode.

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UDG

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91. "Shawn and Rhino"
LAST EDITED ON 10-30-03 AT 01:26 PM (EST)

The Ghosts come back and win, brak, brak, brak. Drake and Morgan have to vote someone out, brak, brak, brak.

For Drake the choice is between Jon and Shawn. Trish can yap all she wants about Sandra and Christa wanting Rupert out too, but not with the spectre of Burton on the horizon they don't. The combination of Burton possibly reuniting with old buddy Shawn and the fact that they all know that Morgan hates Jon's ass, thus making him a target for their merger boot, make this a no-brainer for them.

For Morgan the key is Jeff's little slip-up talking about how it's an interesting 3 days for Osten coming up. It's pretty much a forgone conclusion that the 2-part episode takes place over 3 days, meaning 7a likely only takes place on Day 19. Rhino and Osten are the targets. Andrew and Rhino will vote Osten (unless Andy sees he doesn't have the votes and throws Rhino under the bus) and Tijuana and Osten will vote Rhino. Does Darrah get Rhino's back like he got hers in E3? Nope. She's a follower and can read the writing on the wall. Better to stick with Tijuana and Osten than expose yourself a la Michelle.

The end of Osten's 3 days may see him on the short end of the merger stick, making him the ironic victim who wanted to quit, then had a change of heart, only to be voted out anyway...in 7b.

Fester

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92. "Shawn/Osten"
There are lots of different angles this could go, but Im taking the combo of info, and going with some reason.

There is no immunity idol at the Ghost tribe Challenge.

Still not sure if the competition is to come back into the game or just if the ghost tribe wins, they get to pick someone to be booted or participate in TC.

Possibly, Osten does finally quit and Trish being the last person booted gets to come back into the game.

Not sure how the Shawn/Burton stuff fits in though...

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93. "Shawn/Osten"
I can't decide between Osten and Ryan but I am going with Osten!

GO VOLS!

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94. "Rupert and Osten"
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95. "Shawn/Osten"
The weenie and the whiner--way to go.
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96. "Lazy x 2 Shawn & Osten"
Shawn & Osten
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97. "Nobody"
I'm going with the idea that it will be continued.... and we won't see who is going to be booted because of the ghost tribe.
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98. "SHAWN/RHINO"
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100. "Shawn/Osten"
Yes, the Spoiling Queen of the Universe waited for Snewser this week.
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102. "Shawn/Ryan O"
Ryan O because Tij holds the power and has least control over him. Shawn because Jon is easier to control.
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103. "Andrew/Osten"
Lillian comes back, gets to choose who she replaces:

Andrew.

Osten is voted out at TC after merge.

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104. "Osten"
Okay... I know that Snewser has already made his picks, but I had intended to vote that Osten was going to drop out before I read Snewser's picks, so I'm sticking with that as my vote.
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105. "Shawn/Osten"
I have voted for Shawn the past two weeks...third time's the charm. As for Osten, maybe after last week's IC, Andrew doesn't think Osten is the strongest link, but the weakest. Then again Andrew's logic is working here.
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107. "Vote Tally #3"
LAST EDITED ON 10-30-03 AT 05:40 PM (EST)

This is post #107, summarizing 104 votes, 1 vote change and 2 prior tallies. And no the numbers don't add up or make any sense because this episode isn't going to make any sense. Just go with it, ok?

Shawn..........56
Ryan...........43
Osten..........37
Jon............13
Andrew..........8
Rupert..........5
No Boot.........4
Tijuana.........2
Darrah..........1
Sandra..........1

Christa is under the radar.

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108. "Osten"
no good reason for it. Just a hunch more than anything.
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109. "Osten and Shawn"
Not much to say. Ruben will be mad at Jon for betraying him, but the women will overrule Ruben and want Shawn out.

No need to explain Osten, the whole world knows him...

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110. "JON/OSTEN"
Taking advantage of the Evil Pricks possibility of being able to
vote off not one but TWO of the worst contestants ever on Survivor...in the same episode.

JON for being rude, trashy, egotist, limp-pimp.

OSTEN for being a quitter, whiner, crybaby, animal-hating wussboy.

Dalton

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111. "Shawn/Ryno"
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