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"Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?"
bugaloo 215 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-20-06, 10:34 PM (EST)
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"Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
I thought she put him up for adoption when he was a baby. So why does she have all these pics of him as a boy? Also, I don't get why she calls him "her son" when I think the adopted mom would get to say that?
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JustBNMe 526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-20-06, 11:46 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
That's just it-nothing is ever enough for Cassie she always adds one more thing to the laundry list of things she wants from people. She should take the hint the kid wants nothing to do with her. If he did he would find her himself or pursue finding out what she allegedly died of, where she would have been buried etc. Cassie will never let go until the gets what she feels she is entitled to and that she wants. She is like a stalker. It would not surprise me if she went through Shelly's garbage hoping to find something that belongs to her son or that would lead her to him.
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Geewizz 5 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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03-22-06, 01:37 AM (EST)
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37. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
Reply to JustBNMe: Cassie is someone who is like a great black hole of need. No one or nothing will be enough to fill it up or fix it. It's like an ever-playing record. Why doesn't my son love me? The question she should be asking is "How could I expect him to love me when I can't even love myself - one must be worthy of a child's love - it is pure."
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JustBNMe 526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-22-06, 01:20 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
That's exactly what I have said before. Nothing will ever be enough. First she wants him to know she exists then it will be she wants to see him from afar so as not to be pushy, then it will be she wants to hug him etc, then she wants to take him to dinner, then she wants to have him come stay with her etc. No one else can make her happy either. She laments about not having any support but it's beciuse she is so needy and so silently demanding of people.
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123crafty456 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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03-23-06, 01:00 AM (EST)
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52. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
hey she may have chose the bottle over her son but then she figured out that was not the way to be and she changed adn she is doing good and doing the best she can to be the mother she was and is suppose to be she gave that baby up for a reason and everyone should be proud that she did give him up for adoption instead of throwing him in a dumpster or a trash can like some of these kids do now days i am way proud of cassie for who she si now and what she is doing now you keep going cassie i am proud of you no matter what these ppl say . love you crafty
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jndinc1 37 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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03-20-06, 10:42 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
I believe the pictures were given to her last season by Shelly, the adoptive dad's ex-wife. Shelly agreed to come to the SO house to meet with Cassie and fill her in as much as she could about her son's life. I believe that Shelly gave Cassie everything she had including some childhood art projects he had made.
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bugaloo 215 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-20-06, 10:55 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
Wow! So about the "son" why does she NEED to meet him and morover, why does he need to meet her? Maybe it will mess him up to have her turn up. he knows he's adopted, right? He could find her if HE wanted.
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bugaloo 215 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-21-06, 00:06 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
Why is SO encouragung her? Shouldn't she be learning that she made a tough decision by giving him up, be proud, and MOVE ON! Are they suggesting that birth mothers should be hunting out their birth children? Adopted families are fantastic and enough.
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bugaloo 215 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-21-06, 00:17 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Let's be careful here" |
I hear you. Thanks.
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SOHla 119 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-21-06, 01:33 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
Shame on SO/BM. I think leagally theywould need to have a signed waver from any person who's name...not to mention pictures, is flashed all over national tv.My god. This is a very private matter, and if the kids pictures (haven't seen todays episode) with his name is being aired for all to see, is INVADING HIS PRIVACY! Cassie gave him up! Her rights as a mom were OVER once the kid was handed over to adoptive parents. An addoptive kid should NEVER be hunted down like that period. not to mention on national TV. If she really loves him as she claims....she should respect his privacy and wait for HIM to come to her. SO must have a signed consent form from him or the parents and are dragging this out for the drama and ratings boost. I work in the industy, and I'm (almost certain) that you need to have a signed waiver or they could be sued. An example of that is when the HG share their stories and photo's, you will see some of the friends and family members blured out. (they have to do that if they don't sign a waiver) That is what makes me think they really do have signed wavers, and just edit it, to create all this drama. Who know's with these producers, they have led us to believe one thing when in reality it wasn't anything like that at all!
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sweet cheeks 130 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-21-06, 00:40 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
I have just been reading all of your answers . You people make me sick.You do not realize how unselfish Cassie was by giving her son up. I think he deserves to know he is adopted and that his Mom wants to meet him . If he does not choose to meet her. Then that will be the end of this whole thing. Cassie seems very caring to me. But I wonder how caring the rest of you people are. I think you people should stop and think about how far Cassie has come. Instead yall want to bash her. We found out last year his adoptive mom had never told him he was adopted.
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jovigroove 9 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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03-21-06, 03:46 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
He's not a kid anymore, he is an adult.
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Cygnus X1 7505 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-21-06, 09:16 AM (EST)
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16. "WARNING - sweet cheeks" |
You may be supportive of Cassie. Others may bash Cassie. You may not criticize them for doing so. That violates our guidelines, which I hope you've read. Also please read our new FAQ list.
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nikkidemus 186 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-21-06, 05:48 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
Actually Cassie is the one who makes me sick. I am a birth mother who put my son up for adoption in 1976. Yes I call him my son because that is what he is. Hes not a baby or an it. What should I call him? Anyways , I think Cassie is giving us birth moms a negative outlook. In thirty years I have never tried to hunt down my son or exploit him in any way. I am so grateful to people who can open up their hearts and homes and love these precious babies like they had given birth themselves. Cassie needs to cherish those pictures and move on. Some of us dont have pictures, booties, and even artwork of our babies, all we have are heartbreaking memories of handing over our little ones and hoping and praying that they are getting a loving, happy, and stable family.
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bugaloo 215 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-21-06, 08:31 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
nikkidemus, i really admire you for be so strong for your child. have you signed up at a state registry like the one in oregon? would you be open to meeting your son?
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nikkidemus 186 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-22-06, 05:48 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
Thanks bugaloo, it has taken a lot of strength to get me through the years. No I havent registered yet, actually I always thought that the adoptive parents would have whatever info that he would need to find us but now I realize that legally in order for him to contact me I would have to be registered. And yes I would be very open to it but I also will admit that I would be terrified. What if he just wanted to tell me how much he hated me, that I was a horrible monster etc.? That would damage me beyond repair. I guess we all fear rejection.
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sweet cheeks 130 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-22-06, 00:05 AM (EST)
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32. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
The problem is the adoptive parents of Cassie's son , Im not sure they were much better parents that she might have been. The adoptive Mom is on her third marriage. All those step moms and step dads. Seems kind of sad to me. They probably had a bad marriage when they adopted Cassie's son. Probably thought a child would help. I see it did'nt. My sister gave up a son also . 40years ago. She never talks about her son at all. I wonder if she ever thinks how he is and if he is well. I don't dare asking her.
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Geewizz 5 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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03-22-06, 02:03 AM (EST)
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39. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
BRAVO - BRAVA - You have spoken real words of love. You performed an act of faith without knowledge of the outcome - only your prayers and dreams let you know you made the right choice for your child.
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sweet cheeks 130 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-21-06, 00:29 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
Last year when Cassie was trying to connect with her son. She got in touch with one of his step Moms. She gave her the pictures. She thought she would like to have them. It was pictures of him growing up.
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jovigroove 9 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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03-21-06, 01:07 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
It's nice to see Cassie again! You can tell having those pictures mean the world to her. It's obvious enough that she regrets her past and all the choices she made when she was YOUNG! I'm willing to bet if her house were burning down, that album with her "sons" pictures would be the first thing she'd grab. I also think her return was much more of B/M ASKING HER back for ratings, rather than Cassie begging for more air-time.
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Cygnus X1 7505 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-22-06, 00:21 AM (EST)
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33. "Perhaps she just typoed - and a notice to all" |
I sometimes forget who the HG is in these threads.But now EVERYBODY . . . take a deep breath. Take another one. Let it out slowly. Now one more. Nerves are getting frayed unnecessarily in this thread, so everyone, just throttle back a bit. If you don't, this thread will have a lovely lock on it. Okay?
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bugaloo 215 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-21-06, 01:04 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
i think the pics only feed her obsession with trying to meet him. he is at an age that is challenging to parent/child relationships. i'm sure that he and his real parents have plenty to deal with right now without throwing cassie into the mix.
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SOWayz 179 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-21-06, 05:31 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
Cassie has the pictures, the letters, the bib and the blanket with her at all times because she has created a shrine that is always with her, always ready. The LC's are doing her a great disservice by allowing this obsession to continue.
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jonimoni 136 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-21-06, 06:20 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
Hey, maybe Rhonda should have her burn them the way she had Kim burn her little suitcase...... I would not have let her make me burn that either.
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bellyButton 171 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-21-06, 06:31 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
we really don't know the whole story. but cassie gave up a boy instead of taking terrible care of him. i'd want to see him also. i lost a child. no way i can see that child but if i could i would. i'm not the same kid i was at twenty. my dad didn't deserve me as his child..but after fifty yrs i'm getting the chance to have him as a dad instead of an abuser. he's changed and i want to know this new person he's become. i've done things when my grown children find out i hope they forgive me.
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JustBNMe 526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-21-06, 07:03 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
Exactly! She can cart all that crap around but can't bring a GED certificate to show people nor can she say what sort of job she has now or if she is even working. Sorry but IMO she is a stalker who is being aided and abbeted by SO. If I was Cassie's kid I would get a restraining order to keep her from getting near me and to keep her from showing my pictures to people. Cassie is so unstable and obsessed with her son that maybe he fears Cassie would be of the mindset of "If I can't have him no one will!" I wouldn't put it past her with how she acts and the look she gets in her eyes when someone challenges her pipedreams.
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beckettrep 814 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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03-21-06, 09:04 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
I thought Cassie only wants reassurance that her son is aware of the fact that he is indeed adopted (didn't adoptive mom at one time indicate she never told him?) Even if Cassie was totally out of the picture ANY adopted child should be told that they are adopted so the adoptive mom is totally out of line if she's withheld that from him all these years. IF all Cassie wants is for him to know that his birth mom is alive and well and willing to meet him (if HE wants to)then I see no problem with that - if however, she wants to insinuate herself into his life without his express permission then I would agree that would be totally wrong and selfish of her to do.
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shelley_sargent 73 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-21-06, 10:39 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
Okay, I can offer a little bit of a different perspective as I have just finalized an adoption of a beautiful little girl. She just turned 2. Anyway, I really like the way her birthparents handled the adoption. Basically they gave me their legal names, copies of their birth certificates, and their social security numbers and I will give them to my daughter when she turns 18 and tell her everything I know about the situation in which her mom and dad signed away their rights and then if and when SHE wants to, she can look them up and she has all the info she needs to find them. But until that point there is now contact and as a matter of fact we changed her name and social security number when she was adopted so that the parents CANT look her up, at least not easily. We want it to be something that she chooses to do on her own, we dont want her hunted. I personally dont agree with them publisizing his name and pictures. He may not want his peers to know that part of his history and I believe that it is only fair to let him choose who knows about his family situation. What if his parents really havent told him the truth, this could be traumatizing to him. I hope Cassie really thinks hard about what she is doing and the potential harm it could cause.
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SOWayz 179 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-22-06, 00:22 AM (EST)
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34. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
The lawyer felt that the document that was signed and notarized was valid because of the shared stamp. Justin knows he is adopted. Cassie has a VERY romanticized vision of the two of them running towards each other in a field of daisies and then walking arm in arm into the sunset. Creepy.
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Boots12565 195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-22-06, 00:35 AM (EST)
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35. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
This is DEFINITELY a HOT topic-BUT here goes-IMHO-I think its ok for cassie to have pictures of her son-Dont want to get on my high horse here -BUT-In reality-Its probably all she will EVER have of him-I feel SORRY for cassie-She had a ROTTEN life and it was made worse by addiction-The adoption lawyer pretty much spelled it out-It looks like Dustin actually signed the notarized letter-That has got to HURT!!I think shes a basically NICE person who screwed up-If all she has are a few photos and a baby bib to remind her of ALL that she lost-I think its OK-PEACE
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Geewizz 5 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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03-22-06, 01:29 AM (EST)
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36. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
Cassie's son was raise by two different women. One had him for his younger years and kept many items that a birth mother might want, in the event she surfaced. When it was found out she existed, she was invited to the Starting Over House and she brought those photos and clothing items with her for Cassie. The woman causing the problems for Cassie right now is his 2nd mother (sort-of).
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sillybear 84 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-22-06, 10:41 AM (EST)
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42. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
This seems to me to be more of an obsession for Cassie.I think her having the pictures of her son puts her further into her dreamworld of meeting him.I don't think the LCs should encourage this any further.
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bugaloo 215 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-22-06, 11:45 AM (EST)
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43. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
what was with rhonda yesterday? first she says you are not here to meet your son we havve done nothing. then a pre-arranged attorney walks in. then rhonda encourages cassie to realize there is still a good chance! that's not what i get from the son. he sounds like HE DOESN'T WANT TO MEET CASSIE! rhonda needs to snatch that photo album from cassie and hand her a real book to study for GED.
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Baxtera 923 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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03-22-06, 01:25 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
Wouldn't Cassie be in a better position to be meet her son if she got some job training, found a job, and actually had a job? Truthfully wouldn't she want to be in a position where she feels good about herself before she goes running off to meet him?
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JustBNMe 526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-22-06, 06:07 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
I agree and besides all that was addressed last season when Cassie was in the house. They should send her home with copies of the tapes of her stay in the house from last year so she can review them, refresh her memory and actually do something with all she was given last year.
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southern sam 47 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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03-22-06, 08:40 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
I personally think Cassie will stalk her abopted son. Cassie will say all I did for you, put you up for adopting to a good family, love, money, ect. Now SON you need to repay me for all I did for you.....birth, ect... The son need to wait till he in this 30's before he meets Cassie if ever....I believe she will be a real downer to him and his life, not bring him happiness.......I hope I am wrong but I do not think I am.
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bugaloo 215 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-23-06, 00:17 AM (EST)
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50. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
where is the birth father? doesn't he need pictures too? doesn't justin NEED him? if he NEEDS cassie then why not the dad?
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jovigroove 9 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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03-23-06, 00:40 AM (EST)
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51. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
Maybe the father doesn't give a Sh*t about him! At least Cassie cares. If I were him, I would be happy to know that my birth mother was so desperate to meet me. I would think Cassie was a piece of sh*t if she didn't care about him! Whether he chooses to accept her invitation to meet her, I don't care..But by now, I'm quite certain he must know she is on tv looking for him. I wouldn't think that would HURT him.
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kree 77 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-23-06, 11:58 AM (EST)
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56. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
I agree! And the fact that she's doing it in a controlled environment, not just literally standing outside his window is a good thing. Yes, it's a tv show and that is a little weird, but she's going through professionals and not just seeeking him out herself. I think the reason she hasn't let go of meeting her son is that she is such a nieve person who feels a lot and cares maybe too much, and really thought those adoptive parents were going to keep it open as they promised. Well, welcome to the real world Cassie, people are cruel and insecure and can't hold to a promise for anything. They don't care that he has your blood and skin, etc. They don't care that by denying you becuase you are "unforgiveable" they pretty much are saying, hey son, that means you can never be like that or we'll cut you off too. I can tell you as a woman who is pregnant for the second time and going through horrible all day nausea, that you do care about your child- and just because you gave them up doesn't mean you have no feelngs for them. If I had to give up a child, you bet your a** I would carry pictures around all the time and be a little crazy about it. I like Cassie, I think she is a kind, loving, yet too trusting, person. I wish her the best.
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shelley_sargent 73 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-23-06, 04:25 PM (EST)
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58. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
As I mentioned above, I just adopted a little girl through Child Protective Services. I can tell you that, even if a birth parent and adoptive parents come to the decision to make the adoption open, once the birth parent terminates their rights, the adoptive parents are not LEGALLY bound to continueing with open adoption. Legally that child is now theirs and they dont HAVE to do anything. In a way I think this can be very misleading for a lot of parents because they dont realize how final the termination of rights really is. Unfortunatly the birth parent rarely has a lawyer ( or at least a good one) to tell them these things, so they are happily giving their children to an adoptive family pretty much going on good faith (although most birthparents believe it is on legal faith) that the family will keep contact with them. With us, even though our situation is different in the fact that our child was removed from her birthparents custody because of neglect issues, WE chose to allow them pictures ( only because we can still sympathize with the fact that even if you deserved to have her removed at the same time, I know it must be hard to lose a child). However, if either tries to contact before she goes to them, then all ties are cut. In Cassies case, I think it is wonderful that she does have some pictures. Yes, she screwed up, yes, she didnt need to have him with her while she was drinking, but at the same time, he is still her birth child and regardless of her past mistakes and time and distance she is still going to think about him and miss him. I can only sympathize with her in that aspect. But, like I said, she needs to back off if he isnt ready to meet her. I only hope that my little girl's parents honor that request we have made. That is why we changed my daughters name and social security number, so that she will have the option of looking for them and not vis-versa. Regardless, it will be interesting ot see how things turn out with SO's influence.
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kree 77 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-23-06, 05:04 PM (EST)
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59. "RE: Why does Cassie hae so many pictures of "her son"?" |
My father was an alchoholic too, and used to manipulate us with pain both physically and mentally. I admit not wanting to have anything to do with him, and yet at my Grandmother's funeral I still went over and gave him a hug despite the past. He may not be the best person in my book, but he still deserves forgiveness and is still my father. In any case, on the real topic- I just don't think it's crazy for Cassie to have those pictures. The boy is part of her flesh- maybe pictures are alll she'll have. Thanks for listening.
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