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"Episode 13 "...And Then There Were Four""
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"Episode 13 "...And Then There Were Four"" |
Airdate: Sunday May 11
The ultimate survivor in the Amazon is crowned as the reality series wraps up its sixth edition. In the two-hour episode, the four remaining players are whittled down to two and the seven-person jury decides the winner. “It's a toss-up when we get to the final two,” reports host Jeff Probst. “It's not a sure thing. How people answered the questions at the final tribal council had an impact on whether they got a vote.” The big change this time, explains Probst, is that the concluding vote takes place immediately following the last immunity challenge. “There's no time to think about it,” he says. A reunion of all 16 castaways in New York City, which Probst also hosts, follows the finale.
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04-28-03, 01:25 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Episode 13 "...And Then There Were Four"" |
How does this affect the timeline? This is how the last ep would transpire for me:day 37 - F4 RC (?)
day 38 - F4 IC (?)
day 39 - F3 IC to determine F2, then the jury deliberation and voting If there is dead time, you would think they would fill the time with a reward challenge somewhere. Not that it's mandatory, but it would be more interesting for the viewers and the contestants. That would also mean that F3 would have to be Fallen Comrades again. This would also mean the "Journey of the Dead" would have to take place during the day of 39. How is the jury affected by this? Well, now they have to essentially think up 3 questions or at least think of the 3 possible scenarios before going into the jury. For the F3 contestants, it means they can't focus so much on how to win the last challenge, but they also have to think about how to approach the jury OR, if they think they will get booted, they have to wing their way through their own jury questions. How does this affect the F3 boot? Will they immediately vote against the person who just voted them off? I have to hand it to EPM - he is brilliant at keeping the game unpredictable.
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04-28-03, 01:34 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Episode 13 "...And Then There Were Four"" |
>That would also mean that F3 would have to be Fallen Comrades again. Not necessarily. They could have the outlast challenge then come to TC but just never leave after the F3 vote. The person voted off just goes to sit on the jury immediately. Does that mean that this person doesn't get any final words? Or will them send them off to do the final words then have them return. (I wouldn't want to be the one they sit next to.) >For the F3 contestants, it means they can't focus so much on how to win the last challenge, but they also have to think about how to approach the jury OR, if they think they will get booted, they have to wing their way through their own jury questions. That's assuming they are told what is to happen. I think it would be great for them to have a physically exhausting challenge, do the possibly emotionally exhausting F3 vote, then during what would normally be Jeff's closing comments, he could tell them, guess what guys, we are doing the final TC right now, start talking.
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04-28-03, 04:41 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Episode 13 "...And Then There Were Four"" |
<<That's assuming they are told what is to happen. I think it would be great for them to have a physically exhausting challenge, do the possibly emotionally exhausting F3 vote, then during what would normally be Jeff's closing comments, he could tell them, guess what guys, we are doing the final TC right now, start talking.>>So if you are on day 39, you have to know that it is day 39. It is the day that they have all been waiting for since day 1. If you have the F3 IC on day 39, you know something is coming. Otherwise, you finish the game on day 38, which may be necessary as hungry as those tribe members seem to be (as indicated by the elevated amounts of food given away at reward challenges as well as even giving food away at a team immunity challenge). So how do you have a F3 IC and the jury in the same day? From a logistical perspective, you have to have a game that you can control the length of time. If you do an endurance challenge, there is no saying how long the challenge will last. You have to have the jury ready, you have to have all the production people ready. However, you can go straight from a Fallen Comrades challenge into the F3 IC, and then right into the jury. Everything nice and wrapped up tight as a bow. Only thing to do is take it all to the editing room so you can tape Jeff's fake exit and then arrive miraculously into New York.
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04-28-03, 05:14 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Episode 13 "...And Then There Were Four"" |
What about dismantling the camp? That 's always an end-of-game ritual for the Final 2. The Final 3 would have do it before proceeding to the last IC.
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04-29-03, 04:36 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Episode 13 "...And Then There Were Four"" |
Brian and Clay did dismantle the camp in the fire in S5. Brian described the experience as a purging or a cleansing experience.
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04-29-03, 01:55 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: Episode 13 "...And Then There Were Four"" |
Well, aside from the final 2 dismantaling camp, all the sappy "remembering the game" yadda yadda happens with the final 3. That always felt like that should be the end to me, but then they just went on to show the remaining two lounging around on the last day. By going straight to final TC after immunity, I think this may be in part to help the episode flow better.
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04-28-03, 01:42 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Episode 13 "...And Then There Were Four"" |
Well, this definitely qualifies as a surprising final Tribal Council.
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04-28-03, 03:45 PM (EST)
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6. "5 Little Indians" |
Hmmmm... Smells like some Agatha Christie to me. It could be a clue, based on whether you've read the book.Five little Indian boys going out for law
One got in Chancery and then there were four This was the verse referring to Judge Wargrave's "death." He ended up being the murderer in the book. Maybe it is a link to Rob, who has backstabbed everyone so many times, is gone? I kind of wish that we didn't know the Final 4 order, because that title could start quite a bit of inquiry about Christy and Agatha Christie... That would be interesting.
In Honor of Summary Writers...
6. "Christy’s smile... one of the 1,612 defining moments" -TeamJoisey
7. "Christy wins the Jan Gentry “Aim High” Award" -Fester
8. "Heidi and Jenna are more Butch than Butch" -Draco
9. "Matthew: DINNER!" -Anotherkim
10. "Janet misplaces her granola bar. Granolagate!" -Swami
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04-28-03, 05:04 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: 5 Little Indians" |
Well I'm sure it has nothing to do with the Agatha Christie mystery, but nevertheless...Four little Indians going out to sea
A red herring swallowed one and then there were three. (Dr. Armstrong is pushed off a cliff and drowns at sea.) Three little Indians walking to the zoo
A big bear hugged one and then there were two. (Blore is crushed by a bear-shaped clock.) Two little Indians playing with a gun
One shot the other and then there was one. (Vera Claythorne shoots Philip Lombard.) One little Indian left all alone
He went and hanged himself and then there were none. (Vera Claythorne hangs herself. Judge Wargrave, the murderer, then places the chair she used back against the wall and commits suicide with the gun.) I don't see anything at all related to S6 in any of that. I would guess the title is just the generic "Four are left" title we usually see for the final episode.
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04-28-03, 10:40 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: 5 Little Indians" |
Were not all the Survivor shows 39 days except S2?? Why was it 42days?
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04-29-03, 09:05 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: 5 Little Indians" |
Thank you I did not know that. This is my first season reading the spoilers. I just found out this place was here. I am not slow, you only have to tell me 4 or 5 times befor I catch on. lol
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04-29-03, 09:32 AM (EST)
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20. "RE: 5 Little Indians" |
"Four little Indians going out to sea
A red herring swallowed one and then there were three."aRED HERRING swallowed one...interesting. 
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04-29-03, 10:40 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Episode 13 "...And Then There Were Four"" |
>"How people answered the questions at the final tribal council had an impact on whether they got a vote."This suggests that votes changed after the Q&A. We saw Clay shoot himself in the foot by lipping off during the Q&A. We saw Ethan win Kelly G.'s vote by sucking up during the Q&A. So which of CO's final two is more/less likely to suck up during the Q&A? Matt is supposedly clueless about the game, so he could very well not understand the value of workin' it during the Q&A. Jenna, on the other hand, is a self-centred stuck-up child who thinks the winner of Survivor should be the person who needs the money the most, not the person who played the game the best. She has also demonstrated that she does not guard her emotions well. Since I think Matt wins, I think that someone asks the classic: "WHY SHOULD I VOTE FOR YOU/WHY SHOULD YOU WIN?" And Jenna answers: "BECAUSE I NEED THE MONEY" Nothing, more than this statement, demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of the game. Matt will look like a genius sitting next to Jenna. The jury members will not want to lose to someone who doesn't have a clue about the game. All along, Jiffy has been fingering Matt as this clueless person, but I think Jenna appears clueless to the jury members and this is how she loses. Question is, when she collects her mere $100K, will she pay off her parents bills? Or will she take that trip to Italy?
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