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"Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated"
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11-13-02, 02:54 PM (EST)
 
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2. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
I starting to wonder if Nikki has an uncle cameraman?Lets examine his supposed predictions: Claim one:
Predicted TNT were booted because they were in NYC for the early show/Carolyn Rhea. Facts:
Predicted after TNT they were already eliminated. He missed his calling, he should be placing bets on the Breeders cup and making millions. Claim two:
Eve hooked up in the first couple weeks with either guns and hoses and now appears to be the first night in Mexico City. Facts" Sounds to me that your side job may be working for one of the porn sites featuring blacks and blondes. Claim three:
Long distance couple get booted. Facts: Opps you did not predict that very hard pick. It was probably one of four that put gas in the car instead of diesel. You did not like the 25% of being right? Claim four:
Damon and Andre are kidnapped in the cab. Facts: The fact that were delayed was in previews as early as the country music award and there plenty more about it so it a good guess. Actually in the most recent preview Guns say it says the local official comes up and we were delayed. Noting about cabs or any of this bull ##### about being give 1 1/2 hours and being kidnapped by cab. Lets face how crazy would it be for a cab driver to kidnapped 4 people with camera and cell phone? Of course you already said CBS was cover this fantastic story and not show it so if the time and the cab is not shown then you can claim a cover-up Guns and Hoses may well be eliminated and probably will be. However, at best you look at the previews and made a guess. Inside info? There is not shred of evidence to indicate you do. Lets face how could you have so much very specific information on guns and hose and not a clue about the long distance couple being eliminated? If either the cab driver pans out or the 1 1/2 time advanage actually show up, I will be the first to apologize. Hey I have not been right much in amazing race but I'm counting on this prediction. Xrunner
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xrunner 65 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-02, 03:47 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
I starting to get nervous because a CBS preview describes Morocco as exotic and DANGEROUS. Of course Nikki also claims the cab sequence is not shown.In any event, I have predicted John Vito and Jill win TAR solely on the basis that in the very beginning of week 1 Phil talks about who has best combination of brain braun and teamwork to win a million dollars and then they show John Vito and Jill. They also highight the statue of liberty and with its upraised torch seem to someone holding up a finger saying were #1. Xrunner
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xrunner 65 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-02, 04:34 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-13-02 AT 05:01 PM (EST)In reply to:
ps I NEVER claimed anything about Mike and Kathy That's the problem, the difficult pick you totally ignored. For this week first you say Guns and Hoses get 1 1/2 hour advanage but it does help and now you say your not totally sure whose eliminated you could have mixed up. What is it? You can claim about inside information all you want but until you come up with a bonafied spoiler that not part of public information you have no creditably. As I said when you prove yourself, I be the first to give you credit. Your lucky your not giving a deposition. Lawyers always ask the same question many ways and many times to see if the answers are consistent. If they not then the figure you lying. (of course lawyers are excellent at picking out liars because they they have so much experience in lying.)
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Esbea 7377 desperate attention whore postings
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11-14-02, 03:01 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
totally unconfirmable and superfluous...and how is that a test to see if they were gay anyway?
"I prefer the wicked to the foolish. The wicked sometimes rest."
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cmaybur 259 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-02, 05:31 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-13-02 AT 08:01 PM (EST)Claim one: Predicted TNT were booted because they were in NYC for the early show/Carolyn Rhea. Facts: Predicted after TNT they were already eliminated. Hold on... she predicted Tramel and Talicia's elimination before the episode aired! I believe this "spoiler" about André and Damon being detained by a taxicab driver. And I also believe that CBS will more than likely sweep this under the rug, because they will never want the audience to know that any of the teams were in genuine danger. It is possible that this supposed detainment by the police came about as a result of the taxicab incident, or because of a totally unrelated matter. If A/D were held up in their cab, it's likely the camera crew got it on tape, which they would of course have to turn over to the Moroccan police to prosecute the cab driver. This could be the detainment that would merit a time credit for "production delays", not the actual hold up, but the police involvement. Until Nikki gives us a reason to not trust her (ie. gives out a spoiler that turns out to be totally bogus), then I am going to give her the benefit of the doubt. Edited because I apparently can't spell worth a damn... Chris "Ten countries, four continents, forty-six thousand miles... Derek and Drew, you are the winners of The Amazing Race."
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xrunner 65 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-02, 08:29 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
Claim one: Predicted TNT were booted because they were in NYC for the early show/Carolyn Rhea. Facts: Predicted after TNT they were already eliminated. Nikii actual prediction was: "If these two aren't the next to be eliminated, then they will win the entire thing...NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!"
So what is it? They are eliminated or they win? I stand by my statements. The fact is Nikki greatly embellished about seeing them in NY after they were already eliminated. If she mentioned the NY sighting before the show aired I believe her too. The fact she (or he) desperately tried to gain credibility is another strike against her/him.
Heck TNT is the only pick I got right. I looked at the intro video with him talking on a cell phone while washing the car and then she threw soap suds at him. I figured with an intro video that bad they had to be next.
As I said before if any of her/him specific info pans out then I be the first to hail her/him.
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11-13-02, 10:15 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Keep Up the Good Work Amazing!" |
Time to remember that when the previews show a team in trouble, that team usually survives. We got so hung up on Insider's original elimination prediction that we assumed an obvious elim. That was a mistake we must learn from as the outcomes become less predictable down the road.Insider has some good info and seemed to backtrack late in the game this week. She hurt her credibility by denying the elimination prediction (it's in the subject, for pete's sake) but agree that we will pay attention to future inside info, we'll just have to be a little more critical in the analysis. I should be glad...911 is my PTTE winner (why, I ask myself now that we've seen them in action!), so I get a few more points, at least. By the way, you realize they would have finished second to the Bunkers if not for the incompetent cab driver. Anyway, we have the twins in Singapore and the Bunkers and Flozac on the plane, so all we have to do is figure the order of the other three out. Personally, I think K/G are out fourth, that leaves JVJ and 911 for next out. Expect an elim next week, non-elim T-giving week.
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11-14-02, 01:08 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
Ok guys,
Well, I guess I got my info crossed. I did know they would be eliminated and they were granted some time, but I was told that they were going to be eliminated but not until after next week. I assumed they were eliminated because of the kidnapping. So, that was my mistake to make that assumption. But, they will be eliminated next week, mark my words. And, I was right about the kidnapping wasn't I? So, they were driven far out in a taxi and "detained" by the "city official" just as I said. Just watch next week to see if they get eliminated and we'll see if I'm legit or not.
Thanks to all of you who have faith in my info and forget the rest of you critics. I know what I know and I try to give as much info as I can. What do you people want from me? I'm giving you all I've got (well except 2 things (the ending city and a hook up), but that will come later... I gotta keep my fame in small spurts ya know?
Sorry again for the mix up tonight
Nikki
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11-14-02, 01:19 AM (EST)
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18. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
> But,
>they will be eliminated next
>week, mark my words. Shouldn't next week be non-elimination? Weren't the first two races scheduled like this. > I'm giving
>you all I've got (well
>except 2 things (the ending
>city and a hook up),
>but that will come later...
>I gotta keep my fame
>in small spurts ya know? E-mail me all this info. I won't tell a soul, I promise  
(c) 2002 GeorgiaBelle Creations, Inc. All rights reserved
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11-14-02, 01:20 AM (EST)
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19. "Speculation..." |
First of all, I do believe that you have spoiler information.That said, based on how late Team 911 arrived at the pit stop, they're in trouble anyway (and their "alliance" with the band of brothers is long gone!) It's not a huge stretch to see Team 911 eliminated next... but thank you for continuing to share your info... I think that in the future, it would be more beneficial to all of us if you told us exactly what you know, and then let us reach the conclusions as a group. Based on what you have shared, I believe that I would have likely reached the same conclusion, but I think that you would have fewer "critics" if you shared the info that you got without any speculation mixed in (and then participate in the speculation with all of us... it's why we're here, and its 90% of the fun in this game!!) Thanks again for sharing info with us as you are able! 
You never know what might be up my sleeeve...
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11-14-02, 12:52 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Speculation..." |
I agree with sleeeve. I think it's great you have insider info - and it's obvious that you do. But, it's the method that is causing you some problems here. I, for one, would like it best if you just tell us what you know or heard. Spoiling works best as a group effort anyway and no one is gonna take credit for the info you bring to the table. We're glad to hear what you know - but it works best for everyone when we know for sure what is fact and what is speculation on your part. Maybe if we all hash out what it means as a group or how the separate peices of info you have fit together, it would work better for everyone.! That doesn't mean we want you to leave though. Anyone with inside info is always a keeper in my book! 
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11-14-02, 04:07 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-15-02 AT 01:44 AM (EST)My edits don't seem to be showing up... Anywho.. I am going to hazard a guess, for absolutely no reason whatsoever, that the big hookup is between Flo and Derek. Edit: Err.. yeah. I meant Drew. Damn twins! Ho
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11-14-02, 12:57 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
I think Flo hooked up with Drew coz Derek's married.Amazing_Insider, I appreciate your posting here but I'd really prefer it if you would word your posts more carefully in the future. Your post had CLEARLY stated that Guns and Hoses was going to be eliminated this episode and you had raised the credibility of the spoiler info a big notch by saying that they were given a 1 1/2 hour time credit even though it wasn't enough to save them from being eliminated. I was one of the many others who were suckered in by your post and I don't think that I would have fallen for it so whole-heartedly if you hadn't sounded so sure in your post. I think most posters, myself included, wouldn't have felt so sore about if you had said Guns and Hoses are gonna get kidnapped and YOU THINK that they'd be eliminated. It's a big difference when the "you think" part was left out. I do agree with some of the posters who said that most of your posts were not credible enough to be taken too seriously. The initial TnT prediction had been really vague because your first post looked more like a hunch than anything else. It's like me saying now, "I think Ken and Gerard are going to be eliminated next week or they're gonna make it to final three" then have me come back again next week saying, "I told ya so" only after the incident happened. The couple hook-up spoiler doesn't lend all that much credibility as well since there was no way for any of us to prove it and all the speculations can be gleaned from the website that Tramel is currently posting on. The same thing can be said about the flashing soccer moms spoiler. There is no way for us to check. It would do a world of difference if you could actually provide a spoiler information that could actually be proved. I thought you did that last week with the Andre/Damon elimination spoiler but your credibility goes down a whole lot when it didn't come true. You'd have to post some legit major spoiler informations now to make me a true believer. No more vague clues and no more "Jill was actually a man" type of unverifiable information. If you're holding some aces, you'd better show them now, buddy. I may not be your true believer but I'm all for freedom of speech. I think the posters here should be given the opportunity to decide for themselves as to whether or not to believe whatever spoiler information that you provide to them. As for me... I'm off to the market to purchase my sack of salt. 
Kathy O'Brien... The Sole Survivor! (I'd rather be delusional)
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cmaybur 259 desperate attention whore postings
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11-14-02, 06:48 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-14-02 AT 06:49 PM (EST)The same thing can be said about the flashing soccer moms spoiler. There is no way for us to check. Didn't Sylvia herself confirm this over at www.televisionwithoutpity.com? I don't understand why the AR contestants can't find their way over here once in a while. There are a bunch of AR contestants posting over there: Sylvia, Tramel and Talicia, Andrew, either André or Damon (don't know which one), plus numerous ones from the previous two races. Tramel has even commented on that big Heather/Eve diatribe we all read. Come on... we're "colorful characters" over here, too...
Chris
"Ten countries, four continents, forty-six thousand miles... Derek and Drew, you are the winners of The Amazing Race."
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Amazing_Insider 25 desperate attention whore postings
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11-14-02, 01:00 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
Even though you were quite rude, I'll go ahead and let you know that this guess is much more on point than that other Tramel and Eve trash that was guessed. That did NOT happen ever!
There was another hookup though w/ someone never seen on camera according to TAR3Tramel on TVwoP that I haven't got any info on.
Nikki
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11-14-02, 04:35 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
Nikki,Here's another example where you hint that you know something, refute someone's speculation, and then fail to deliver the accurate information. A spoiler board is not the place to be coy with your insider news. It only irritates the audience. As Sleeeve and others have pointed out: There would be a lot less bashing going on if you simply stated what you know, or what you have heard from insiders. I posted much the same weeks ago, and you seemed to take offense. As it stands now, you are the center of attention for a few minutes while posters argue about the validity of your info. If you were more forthright with your info, we'd be talking about that, and not you. YOU would be roundly praised for adding to the pool of information. And we'd get back to analyzing what you know. I mean these criticisms with all respect, because I appreciate any info about the race or the racers, and I appreciate your postings. But please, don't make me crazy any more. Thanks,
TJ 
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11-14-02, 09:50 AM (EST)
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25. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
Umm...not to be cynical, but I didn't see anywhere when Insider threatened to leave.
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11-14-02, 05:58 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
hahahahahahhahaha....they ARENT eliminated. I just love it. I was kinda torqued anyway that the topic line was written the way it was, and I nearly didnt watch, just because half of the fun is seeing if your speculation is right. I DO think you have some inside information, so I thought this was a spoiler. Im not gonna join the debate about your predictions, but Ill go along with whoever said that you might want to just post what you know and THEN speculate about it. AA are gone!!! its reason enough to party!
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11-15-02, 11:52 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
Well it seems that many of you are ungrateful for any clues I have tried to give you, so therefore I intend for this to be my last post. Sorry I can't give you guys all the info and that the info I tried to give you wasn't good enough. Did it every occur to any of you that if I say too much that I can get people in trouble with CBS, maybe even sued???? No, you people are all just greedy and selfish. It's a damn television show, get over it. I tried to tell you people to back off w/ your criticisms because I can only give as much info as I know and am allowed, but that just wasn't good enough. So, don't worry, I won't tell you anything else.
To all the people who stood up for me, thank you, but you can thank all the other jerks on this board for this being my last post.Nikki
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11-16-02, 08:29 AM (EST)
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41. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
Nikki, don't get your panties in a wad. You were right about a soccer mom flashing in a gay bar.
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11-16-02, 06:01 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
You can't claim insider knowledge then get all pissy when people question your information. Of course no one should attack you personally, but critiquing the validity of your posts is totally fair game. You seem to want us to just accept everything you say, and then tell you how right you were.My tendency, as well as that of most people on this board, is not to believe a supposed "insider" until there is a solid evidence to the contrary. Personally, I don't think you have met that burden of proof yet. But that is just my opinion about your information; it has nothing to do with you personally. You shouldn't go storming off with an "I'll take my ball and go home" attitude just because a few people don't believe you. Another reason I think people may be criticizing your info is because of the way you present it. Saying things like "I don't have to back up anything I say, all that matters is was that I was right!", "Man, I'm good!", and "I gotta keep my fame in small spurts ya know?" seriously detracts from your credibility. I apologize to you and the mods if you see this as an attack, but I tried to be as non-personal as possible while explaining what I think is going on here.  Strider
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11-16-02, 09:14 PM (EST)
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43. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
Aww Nikki, you're pouting....
How's abt pretty pretty please. The majority of TARsuckers appreciate your spoilers, and them moderators have also dropped in to say so. Just look away from the few "naysayers". The nature of this board is for everyone to have a say and no one to take things too seriously. If the tone of the ornery few came on strong, it's got more to do with the seasoned skeptic in them (reserved for major spoilers I might add) than anything personal against you.
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11-18-02, 12:59 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
This is DAWing at a whole new level. Double ditto to what the previous posters have said in reply to this. I for one, will also deny you what you seem to require here......having people beg you to stay. Youve had some interesting tidbits to add, but nothing earth shaking, and no one has the time to pat you on the back as much as you seem to want them to. Stay or go, but dont make a production of it.
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11-18-02, 04:20 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: Team 911 Kidnapped/ Eliminated" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-18-02 AT 04:40 PM (EST)Sorry I can't give you guys all the info and that the info I tried to give you wasn't good enough.
Nikki, it wasn't so much that the info you had provided us wasn't good enough. I think the majority of the posters here would have been more than happy if you had said that Andre/Damon were gonna be kidnapped before the CBS website preview was up. The thing that made a lot of people unhappy was you presenting your speculations as if it were factual information that was available to you. You must understand that we tend to get a little fanatical here since this is a TAR message board afterall and we take our spoiling game quite seriously. Some of us spend hours every day to read and analyze articles and vidcaps, so naturally we'd feel upset when the information that was presented as if it was a fact turned out to be false. Did it every occur to any of you that if I say too much that I can get people in trouble with CBS, maybe even sued???? No, you people are all just greedy and selfish.
And it's not so much that we're "greedy and selfish". Nobody here expects you to give us a list of the boots in the correct order. You can just tell us what insider information you know and leave it to us as to whether or not to believe you. Even God has His skeptics so you can't expect ALL of us to believe you especially when your information hasn't been 100% accurate. You have to understand that seasoned posters here are used to having the "Uncle Cameraman" spoilers where information was posted without much, if any, factual backing. We have these kinds of spoilers every other month and you don't have to look very far to see such thread as the one on the Survivor Spoiler board right now http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/3281.shtml You gotta have some facts to back up your claim. Everybody must in order to be regarded as a true spoiler. Sure you don't have to give us everything that you know but you need to give us something that can truely be verified and also something that can't be gleaned from the other TAR websites. I'm not implying that you have zero insider info and the fact that I had trusted you enough to influence my Anti Bootee picks should be sufficient proof that I held you in high regard. I just wish that you word your posts here more carefully in the future and separate the speculation from the facts. I really appreciate you posting here and hope you'll continue to do so. I don't think it's too late for you to prove your critics wrong if you could provide some informations that could later be verified as facts in the later episodes.
Kathy O'Brien... The Sole Survivor! (I'd rather be delusional)
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