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"The Road to the Final 4"
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1. "RE: The Road to the Final 4" |
The iffy nature of the CO spoiler and the minor inaccuracies in it that have already been revealed lead me to discount it unless additional convincing evidence surfaces to back it up. And I haven't seen any hard facts to amount to anything that would back it up, only other spoiler material. So I think any final 9 boot order is pretty speculative. Once we get these next 2 boots and the recrap behind us, we'll have a lot better idea who's gonna go when.
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04-03-03, 06:46 AM (EST)
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2. "Working 9 to 5" |
In response to RoundRobin:
The iffy nature of the CO spoiler and the minor inaccuracies in it that have already been revealed lead me to discount it unless additional convincing evidence surfaces to back it up And I haven't seen any hard facts to amount to anything that would back it up, only other spoiler material. So I think any final 9 boot order is pretty speculative. Once we get these next 2 boots and the recrap behind us, we'll have a lot better idea who's gonna go when. Round Robin, I do regard ChillOne and Milkshaky as providers of good intell.. It seems that some of what they have said is unclear, but the info is definitely there. It is our duty to remove the chaff from the nuggets of truth. Yes? and gawd forbid one of us speculates! Shheeesh! In response to KB: In my attempt to come up with the F9 through F5 positions I used CO and Milkshaky and JP and Contestants as guides, as we all do, I hope.
I have heard most of the outside intell this season. And a few things stick out.
Starting with CO we have JBC and Matt/Dave/Alex as F4.(JBC for sure)That leaves ...
Alex
Dave
Deena
Heidi
(Matt)
Rob
all as potential boots before then.
Add Milkshakys assertions that Heidi is 6th boot(6:00)
This may be shaky, but it is said that Rob and Jenna/Heidi plot to get rid of Alex. At a later time those said actions end up working against Rob as he is backstabbed by Heidi. So...from those I can gather that Alex and Rob both leave before Heidi.
So ...
9:00 (Alex)/
8:00 (Rob)/(Alex)
7:00 (Rob)
6:00 Heidi
5:00 _______
COF4 J B C (plus man) JP was also quoted as mentioning tribe dynamics when the group gets to 8 members. His comment was, as the tribe was split 5-3 one guy switches making it 4-4 at TC. Regardless of what the tribal dynamics are(cross aliances and all).There has to be some defineable line, for JP to make a comment. I know, Spidey's thinking this topic is dead. Follow me ... I believe that if you split up the tribes either by old team or new team(Jab vs. Tam), it would follow that "Old Jab" has 4 members as of right now, so does "New Tam". I think one of these people is in danger in Ep.8. Therefore, either Dave/ Heidi/ Butch/ Christy/ Jenna or Deena is getting the boot in Ep.8 to set up for the 5-3 split scenario in Ep.9. Since Butch, Christy, Jenna, and Heidi all are locks for later boots. It leaves Dave or Deena as the Ep.8(my 9:00) boot.
So ...
9:00 Dave/Deena
8:00 Alex
7:00 Rob
6:00 Heidi
5:00 Deena/Dave/(Matt)
COF4 B, C, J and M or Dave As far as Dave vs Matt for F4 spot, that's a hard one. Against Dave is his current position in the tribe. He would have to win IC's(a lot of them) in order to get that far. But if he did and he was with Heidi and Jenna you can bet that Christy would be nowhere close to F4. In order for her to get there Dave has to go earlier than F5.
Some of you out there think Deena is in the F4. Well she may be. So you all can replace Jenna's name with her's and viceversa. Yet do you really think that Jenna will get booted in this next episode(at9:00) or that C B M/D would keep Deena over Jenna for F4. Highly doubtful(unless Deena wins that crucial F5IC). My Final working schedule
9:00 Dave (Ep.8)
8:00 Alex (Ep.9)
7:00 Rob (Ep.10)
6:00 Heidi (Ep.11)
5:00 Deena (Ep.12)
COF4 BCJM (Ep.13)
As far as CO's F4 I have my own feelings on who will win. And it ain't Matt! or Jenna!
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04-03-03, 10:11 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Working 9 to 5" |
I still have not totally convinced myself that "Jenna" is not Deena from the CO camp (if it all pans out)I just think she is (as of right now) hooked up in so many ways, she should last, barring major fallout. I know, I know, huberus, stated strategies don't win, etc. But, on the other hand, MB did let us see all of the Roger getting booted stuff,and then Roger got booted. I know he loves irony, and R/D/B being clueless and so confident was good tv, but still, could this be a MB trick, allowing us to see Deena's strategy as obvious, and then that strategy wins. I can just see him twisting his mustache and saying "this is gonna drive the spoilers ape". And did we learn nothing of the PornoBrian victory. He said in the confessionals repeatedly that he was going to use people as needed and throw them away (Grandma, BigBlack, etc.), and that is what he did. I just have a sneaking suspicion that Deena may be the Brian of this year. (Albeit a much less sleazy one.) --Course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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04-03-03, 01:29 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Working 9 to 5" |
"And did we learn nothing of the PornoBrian victory."BNLF, I am in agreement with your sentiment. I can't believe how often I see the "strategies revealed do not succeed" creed in Survivor 6 spoiling, this was what led many astray for S5 spoiling of Brian. The creed was valuable for S4 and prior, but it should not be the major divining rod for future spoiling (I put it in the heap with "this person's story arc has come to completion" - something that has never worked prospectively, but always works retrospectively - for obvious reasons). In terms of MB's motives, I do not believe he thinks much about spoilers. I believe he focuses on the best angle to get ratings week to week coupled to season-long themes. In S5, the leadership/manipulation role of Brian was the most interesting focus. In prior Survivors, alternative drama to the winner's strategizing was more interesting. So, overall any strategies we see in S6 and beyond should not be viewed as misdirection, but as good TV - which does not help spoiling much because it may or may not be a strategy that helps them to the final two.
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04-03-03, 10:50 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: The Road to the Final 4" |
I don't know if it's the right time for this speculation yet.I mean, with what little proof we have this week, we need to figure out what everyone's true strategy is right now. It just depends if Dave gets booted or not. If Dave survives somehow, HE could be our "well built" man. 9. Alex
8. Deena
7. Rob
6. Heidi
5. Matthew
4. Christy
3. Butch
Dave/Jenna Or if Dave is booted, tribephyl's explanation would work. ...But then there's the idea that maybe Alex is our "well built" guy... Which gives ANOTHER possibility, which I don't want to get into. 
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Chez 777 desperate attention whore postings
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04-03-03, 01:11 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: The Road to the Final 4" |
There've been comments about new posters, that they aren't to be trusted, and I am a new poster this season - but a huge survivor fan since the very first season - just never knew about these sites till recently - so I am enjoying the board immensely - especially lurking, but also sticking my neck out there.I wanted to jump in on the matter of Chill One's accuracy. I'm mathematical by nature, and I deal in statistics and such a lot in my day to day job as an engineer. Therefore, I view his ability to "almost" correctly predict in a statistical sense, and I am convinced his information is highly reliable. People have expressed distrust in CO because he has gotten the boot order off by 1 position. However, this is great predicting! It is very unlikely anyone could predict boot orders this accurately (while making the predictions before the season even started) simply by chance. Here is the thinking: If CO were to predict the first person off the show, the % likelihood of actually choosing a person who went either 1st or 2nd SIMPLY BY CHANCE is 2/16 = 12.5%. Having made the first prediction successfully, if he goes on to predict the next person (to go in Ep 2), the % likelihood of choosing a person who goes in either Ep1, 2, or 3, SIMPLY BY CHANCE is 2/15 = 20%. Why 2/15, you ask? Well, you might think it is 3 because we are considering 3 episodes, but we already assumed he guessed someone from Ep 1 or 2 correctly, so his second choice can be the bootee from only 2 episodes. The 15 of course comes from the fact he can only choose from 15 remaining contestants. Maybe you think 12.5% or 20% are not such bad odds. BUT, we need to consider the likelihood CO does BOTH of these. Therefore we have to multiply the 2 numbers together. 12.5% x 20% = 2.5% This is the probability he guesses, before the season starts, the bootees from Ep 1 and 2, being off by no more than one Episode in each case. Yeah, yeah, I know he may have missed a choice, and his prediction did not exactly go this way. But I'm just trying to illustrate a principle. And I only mentioned two boots. In fact, he predicted several more than 2, and every time he made another prediction of a person, even with a margin of error of 1 episode, the compounded probability that he is doing all this by chance becomes vanishingly small very quickly. OK, enough math already. I just am trying to give an idea of why I really believe CO's predictions have proven out unbelievably already. Personally, I hate the idea of Jenna and Matt as the F2. Would so love it to be Deena and Rob. What a show that would be! But I am becoming resigned.
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04-03-03, 03:27 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: The Road to the Final 4" |
...but ChillOne isn't PREDICTING - he says that his source TOLD him who the final four were (as well as the first four boots that he got in the wrong order).
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04-03-03, 03:52 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: The Road to the Final 4" |
That's exactly what I'm trying to show - no doubt very clumsily. It's very unlikely he is predicting, as his success rate is far above what would be predicted by chance alone (I'm assuming that predictions before the show even airs would be based on chance alone). Therefore, my analysis is intended as "proof" or at least strong evidence that his "choices" are based on knowledge, not chance.
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04-03-03, 04:06 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: The Road to the Final 4" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-03-03 AT 05:31 PM (EST)Nine to Five Well with Snewser’s confirmation of Dave and the recent information confirming a Jenna / Matthew F2, we have additional confirmation of our assumptions. So, what have we got? The Deena bug-bite spoiler is looking more reliable all the time. It states that Deena makes the jury, but not too far beyond. (We should look for episode teasers that mention a dangerous bug-bite incident. Deena is said to have been in pain at the end of her time in the game). This spoiler also mentions that Deena can’t stand Rob…suggesting that Rob betrays their alliance. We can revisit the BostonGuy spoiler, which has lost a lot of credibility, but mentioned that Rob and Heidi and/or Jenna vote out Alex. Since they are all still in the game and Deena is not mentioned, we might speculate that Alex outlasts Deena, but not Rob or Heidi. We also have comments that Rob’s wheeling and dealing comes back to bite him… The editing of Deena and Rob’s confident comments will undoubtedly become irony. We have seen Rob berating Matthew in confessionals and in light of our knowledge that Matthew makes the F2, we know they come back to bite him. So, now the scenario: After Dave’s departure, the game will be shaken up and Deena will probably go next, betrayed by Rob. Rob will continue to plot with Heidi and Jenna and get support from those who see Alex as a challenge threat, and vote off Alex as per the Boston Guy spoiler. Rob betrays again, this time Heidi, when he works a deal with Butch and Christy. Jenna tries to save herself, seeing that she’s next, and promises to take Christy to the F2, and Butch goes along. Goodbye Rob.
Christy fails to win immunity and is betrayed by Jenna. Jenna wins immunity at F3 and takes Matthew with her to the F2 instead of the likeable Butch. Jenna who appears, to the ChillOne’s boatdriver, to be better liked, losses to Matthew because of her backstabbing. Matthew becomes the Ultimate Survivor.
Summary: TC 9: Deena
TC10: Alex
TC 11: Heidi
TC 12: Rob
TC 13A: Christy
TC 13B: Butch
F2: Jenna/ Matthew Ultimate Survivor: Matthew Edited to add Christy to the summary. 
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04-04-03, 02:36 AM (EST)
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22. "RE: The Road to the Final 4" |
Will it even take that long for the others to see how much of a backstabber Rob is? The guy is such an operator that it would not shock me at all to see him go at any time now. I think it would be hardly surprising that, with Dave now having gotten the old heave ho, the others will see through Rob and boot him as the biggest threat remaining, although his threatening power comes from conniving rather than IC winning. If the others are thinking logically, Rob's days have got to be numbered, and I think if Deena or Alex doesn't go next, Rob will.
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04-04-03, 11:59 AM (EST)
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28. "RE: The Road to the Final 4" |
"Isn't it interesting that Rob named his alliance of 5 and left out Matthew, Butch & Christy. These are 3 of the supposed final 4"
That's what I was thinking. This seems more indicative of Rob going next than anything else. I find next week hard to call. Deena is set up to go in terms of face time, comments, etc. But spoilers have erroneously indicated Alex as a likely boot week after week.
If the three people Rob has excluded change from 5-3 to 4-4, per comment JP made somewhere, then one person must join M/B/C and I have a hard time seeing who:
Rob-would completely contradict his statement above
Deena-unlikely, but she is clearly bonded to Christy.
Alex-maybe, he seems to be friendly to all, close to Matt.
Jenna-why? She is not connected to M/B/C in any way.
Heidi-she's not either, but is willing to switch her vote at the drop of a hat, apparently.
Would Rob completely abandon his entire alliance? Would Heidi abandon Jenna? My guess would be Alex jumps over. (But then, another spoiler says Jenna/Heidi/Rob get rid of Alex. So maybe it's Deena, then Alex, then Heidi, then Rob
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04-08-03, 11:17 AM (EST)
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38. "Source of Jenna betrays Heidi spec..." |
This post from Phoenix is the basis for the Jenna betrays Christy spec. While it could also be Butch or Matthew, Jenna seems more likely...deafdungeonmasterRIT
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(3/9/03 4:27:27 pm)
Reply Very interesting!
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Well, I got back from Gallaudet, and I get to talk with one of Christy Smith's sorority sisters, Delta Epsilon, and it is confirmed that not only Christy Smith made it to the jury, but was also "betrayed" by someone who promise her that she will be in the final two. Christy describe this game as "pioneering" experience.. It is also report that someone went on immunity win, ultimately sealing Christy Smith her fate. -------------------------------------------------------
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04-03-03, 05:11 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: The Road to the Final 4" |
After Dave’s departure, the game will be shaken up and Deena
will probably go next, betrayed by Rob.I agree. I predict that we see a *very* cocky and confident Deena again tonite. Now, after this twist in the game, a great time for the recap to leave the audience hanging. What's gonna happen now? Rob betrays again, this time Heidi, when he works a deal with Butch and Christy. We also have Ryan's chat which implies that Rob's double-dealing ways will come back to bite him. Finally, we know from Milkshaky that Heidi does not like Christie at all. Could a vote that leads to her eviction be additional fuel for the fire? Jenna tries to save herself, seeing that she’s next, and promises to take Christy to the F2, and Butch goes along. Goodbye Rob. Christy fails to win immunity and is betrayed by Jenna. Jenna wins immunity at F3 and takes Matthew with her to the F2 instead of the likeable Butch. Jenna who appears, to the ChillOne’s boatdriver, to be better liked, losses to Matthew because of her backstabbing. Matthew becomes the Ultimate Survivor. I'm most curious to see how the F4 plays out. It's easy to see Christie as a threat because of any sympathy votes to win. Butch will be viewed as the nice guy. Jenna will be the "player" and Matt, the outcast who got to the F2 because of others.
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04-03-03, 06:20 PM (EST)
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21. "May 11th - Final ep" |
ET announced today that Sunday, May 11th will be the final episode hosted from NYC by Jeff Probst.
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04-04-03, 10:21 AM (EST)
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24. "Pieces are Falling Into Place" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-04-03 AT 10:23 AM (EST)Geez... What more spoiling do we have to do? After a couple episodes, it looks pretty cut and dried. Here's what we have: 8. _____
7. _____
6. Heidi
5. _____
4. Christy
3. Butch
2/1. Matt and Jenna With Alex, Deena, and Rob as the blanks. Let's look at #8 first. In the previews we see Rob in a confessional, talking about how Deena and Alex both think they're in charge. But who's really in charge? Rob. First of all, Rob's a smart player. He sees that Deena and Alex have exposed themselves as the "leaders." And this comment says NOTHING about Rob being acknowledged as a leader by the tribe. Hence, I will assume that Rob STAYS OUT OF IT, which would be a logical move if you look at Rob's mentality. So, is Alex or Deena going to get the boot next? Deena has received a TON of face time already, and has been perceived as cocky, which is a bad, bad thing. Remember Brian from last season. The audience was sickened by the man's cockiness! MB couldn't afford to portray anyone who goes far as cocky. Plus, look at Deena's story arc: Deena is kind of bossy, which turns off her tribemates. Jeanne elects Deena leader. Deena, with her leadership position, alligns with Jenna and Heidi. At the swap, she alligns with Rob and boots Shawna. She becomes cocky, and bumps Roger and Dave at the merge. Gosh, I feel like I'm watching "Citizen Kane"... But who would vote against Deena? A. Butch- Yep. He'll vote for anyone to keep himself afloat. B. Alex- Yeah. He's obviously against Deena. But here's the problem. Who else would turn on Deena? I need some responses. The editing and story arc makes sense for a Deena boot, but Alex doesn't seem to have the numbers. Edit: Also, observe how close boots 8 and 7 are. Is it possible for Deena and Alex to fit both of these numbers? Could they really "declare sides" this week and vote one of them off, and then the following week vote off the other leader?
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3. "Survivor is turning into Playboy At The Rainforest" -AMAI
4. "Eat a sandwich and contemplate how shallow you are" -dajaki
5. "She’s deaf! She’s deaf! Oh God, the humanity, she’s deaf!" -TechNoir
6. "Christy’s smile... one of the 1,612 defining moments" -TeamJoisey
7. "Christy wins the Jan Gentry “Aim High” Award" -Fester
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25. "RE: Pieces are Falling Into Place" |
Warning: long post ahead.I'm coming to think more and more that Deena goes next, then Rob in Ep 10, then Alex in Ep 12. We might see JP's cryptic "5-3 becomes 4-4" this week. There is a stated alliance of 5 in Rob, Deena, Alex, Jenna and Heidi. Rob is stringing Matt along with them, but Matt is not really part of this group. I think Deena has been doing basically the same thing with Christy. So Matt, Christy and Butch are the 3 that are on the outside. The way I think this would turn into a 4 against 4 situation is not due to one person switching sides, but by a realignment back along gender lines. Butch should be the next target of the 5, but we have strong spoilers of Butch's longevity. Likewise we pretty much know where Heidi, Christy, Matt and Jenna will end up. It's clear from the preview that Rob is becoming unhappy with Deena and Alex to varying degrees, so one of them is going to be his target next week. Rob still has his alliance connection to Alex, he has Matt eating out of his hand, and Butch is now a free agent. He could probably round up those 3 to go against Deena. That's 4 people, i.e. the men. His other option is to get Deena, Jenna, Heidi (and by proximity Christy) to go against Alex. That's 5 people, i.e. the women + Rob. The latter choice certainly looks better in terms of numbers, but I think Rob still feels closer to Alex than to Deena. And I don't think Rob wants to feel manipulated by the women (note his comments about Jenna and Heidi this week), or give them a numerical advantage in the game at this point.
So I think he's more likely to go after Deena. That is a possible scenario. Deena may lose in a tie-break scenario, or she may be ousted in a different scenario, but I really think she is the next one to go -- not Alex, and not Rob. The reason I don't think Alex will go next week is because of his editing. He has in no way been set up for a boot, up through last night's episode. We don't know what his strategy is, we don't know what he thinks of people's actions, we don't know what people think of him. He doesn't seem to have rubbed anyone the wrong way thus far. He is the most UTR-edited player outside of Butch. This is apparently going to change for Alex next week, but every boot in S6 has gotten a "story" that spans several episodes. The alternate editing pattern would support a Deena boot next -- she's gotten a lot of face time in general, but especially in the Roger boot episode. This week she receded into the background just a bit as the Matt/Dave contest took center stage. It looks like next week she's back in the spotlight, and I think it's her exit spotlight. Now, to Rob: it struck me last night just how tired the Rob Show is getting. This guy seems to have had a ton more face time than any previous contestant at this stage of the game. There's no way MB can make Rob UTR now; he's going to be front-and-center until he gets booted. And Jiffy keeps trying to trip him up at TC. Are we really going to get four more episodes of the Rob show? My gut says no. But there's also this: if Rob lasts until Ep 12, that means he got rid of Deena, and probably had a hand in getting rid of Alex and Heidi -- three of his alliance members. It seems totally illogical that he would allow this to happen. He'd be losing jury votes, and for what? To try to get something new going with Butch and Christy? I think the battle for control next week will really be between Deena and Rob, not Deena and Alex. Once Rob gets Deena out, his cards will have been exposed. Jenna and Heidi won't trust him. A rift will probably have developed between Alex (who, we found out in Ep 3, knows that Rob is cagey) over "control" issues in Ep 9. Christy and Butch will have been observing the proceedings. It seems most likely to me that Rob will be ganged up on and booted in Ep 10. Alex will help get Heidi out in Ep 11 (at that point, everyone will see a need to break up Heidi and Jenna). Then Alex will get an "IC threat" boot in Ep 12. That's what it's looking like to me right now. Reserving the right to change my mind as often as I like, though. 
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04-04-03, 01:31 PM (EST)
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29. "Messy" |
Good discussion Loree and Brownroach! The biggest problem with a Deena boot is that I can't foresee it happening without it getting really messy and a bunch of "if" clauses. Here's the puzzler. We can have a bunch of combinations. Combo 1 8. Deena
7. Rob
6. Heidi
5. Alex -This theory would work the best if Deena/Rob/Heidi were a Pagonged alliance. The problem with this idea is how/why these three would get iced and Jenna's escape. Rob's got Matt on his side and Deena's got Christy. That's a majority. Combo 2 8. Deena
7. Alex
6. Heidi
5. Rob -This would only work if Deena still wanted to go after Butch, and Rob backstabs the lot of them. Another messy combination. It's so messy that I may just go with an Alex boot this week.
In Honor of Summary Writers...
3. "Survivor is turning into Playboy At The Rainforest" -AMAI
4. "Eat a sandwich and contemplate how shallow you are" -dajaki
5. "She’s deaf! She’s deaf! Oh God, the humanity, she’s deaf!" -TechNoir
6. "Christy’s smile... one of the 1,612 defining moments" -TeamJoisey
7. "Christy wins the Jan Gentry “Aim High” Award" -Fester
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30. "RE: Messy" |
BR I said the same thing in the teaser thread.Between Heidi's comment at TC last night and the overwhelming theme of men vs. women, this is EXACTLY where we will see the sexes split again. There is no reason for them not to. Butch and Christy are not aligned
Matt and the women are not aligned
Rob is aligned with Deena who is aligned with the other women
Deena is not aligned with the men
Heidi/Jenna are not aligned with any men
and so forth...
Deena and Rob brought this little band together and when they split up, so will this. The fact that it was said Deena dislikes Rob but doesn't mention anything about H/J tells me that H/J have nothing to do with Deena's departure but rather Rob does and she knows it. There is talk of B/C alliance or B/C/M alliance. Where??? These three are not the alliance makers, why start now? They go where they should, period. Nothing is going to change UNTIL those controlling the scenario are gone.
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings
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32. "RE: Messy" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-04-03 AT 03:51 PM (EST)BR I said the same thing in the teaser thread. Veruca, I know -- I responded to you there that I said the same thing here! To those who think a male would get the boot next, here's something else to ponder: Would not the women then stick together and vote out the rest of the men? Deena, Christy, and Jenna/Heidi may have reservations about each other as people, but they've all stuck together as women when the situation demanded. How apparent was this at the IC last night? I absolutely think they would follow that path. But we know that's not going to happen. So I think Deena has to go next, by whatever means.
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37. "RE: Messy" |
I would respectfully disagree with this. Though a Deena may very well go next, I really doubt it will be by gender lines. Primarily, I think this because Heidi has already crossed gender lines, as have all remaining men except Butch. Plus, there is that JP remark about 5-3 becoming 4-4 when someone switches, and there aren't currently gender-based groupings.
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34. "RE: Pieces are Falling Into Place" |
I keep wondering how Matt feels sitting at home watching this with his family and friends. He is being treated like the idiot and the wild crazy man. But then if he makes it to final 2 he is probably the one laughing while Rob and Deena are throwing things at the TV screen. It would be worse to be shown so sure of yourself only to be brought down by the others. Deena and Rob are the cocky ones.
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35. "RE: Pieces are Falling Into Place" |
I think all the storylines are converging to Deena's exit.I expect to see Rob and Jenna working to oust her soon. Jenna doesn't even seem to like Deena. Did you catch the look on her face when Dave picked Deena as his RC guest? She also said "screw you, fat pig" in her confessional. I think she's just hiding behind Deena for now to make herself appear UTR, and that she will join ranks with Rob and recruit others to dump Deena. Although I hate to give Jenna any credit for using her brain, I do think she understands the importance of staying UTR at the right time. She answered everything wrong in the IC until there were only a handful left, so as to not make herself an early target by chopping others down. Was that her strategy, or is she just plain stupid? "I haven't tuned my bugle for a couple of weeks" -- Rob
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04-04-03, 04:36 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: Pieces are Falling Into Place" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-04-03 AT 04:37 PM (EST)Did you catch the look on her face when Dave picked Deena as his RC guest? She also said "screw you, fat pig" in her confessional. Yes, that was charming. It occurred to me that Jenna or Heidi or both might be instrumental in Deena's boot. The resentment about the reward could dissipate, but then, Jenna did make sure Deena didn't win immunity. As far as Jenna's ability to answer questions, they may have edited out ten rounds of wrong answers from Heidi and Jenna before she won. I don't think she's that bright, but it could have been strategy. And I loved her coy, beauty pageant-winner smirk after Jiffy put the necklace on her.
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42. "RE: Pieces are Falling Into Place" |
Well I like hearing this. Because I think Deena goes this week and Rob next. And that Alex is the one that lasts till the final 5. I know everyone thinks Rob has to lose more weight. But I just think Rob goes before Heidi. The editing just seems better if Heidi turns on Rob and votes him out. The way he has been lusting after her. It would truly be a great moment. Especially if Rob is feeling all cocky for getting Deanna out the week before.
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04-08-03, 02:47 PM (EST)
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43. "RE: Pieces are Falling Into Place" |
Regarding the weight loss, this was posted in our own Rob thread, by someone who sounds as if he knows Rob. I'd responded, hoping he would come back with more info, but he never did. Maybe it means something, maybe not... tompassmore 2 desperate attention whore postings
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20. "RobShow.com and tightening rules"
CBS did infact contact Rob and tell him to shut down the web site because of well, sites like this and people like us. They also laid down or reminded him of some ground rules. One being contestants should not be photographed until after the show is over. And can absolutly not post any online. I can tell you he did lose a substantial amount of weight. But keep in mind the food once you get kicked out of the tribe is supposed to be not much better. So booted tribemates might have continued to lose weight in the off site holding location. In my opinion Rob is gonna be there for a while, but not make the final 4.
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings
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45. "RE: Pieces are Falling Into Place" |
Maybe, KB. But Deena just said in her chat that she lost 25 pounds in the game and 7 more pounds while on the jury. This poster seemed to imply that Rob did not gain back any weight although he might have spent time on the jury. We shall see.
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46. "Some Thoughts, Cause There's Not Much Else To Do" |
It just occurred to me, that we have been assuming with more or less absolute certainty that Heidi goes in Ep. 11. What if this isn’t the case? I’m not casting doubt on Milkshaky, who appears to be reporting what Heidi says fairly accurately, but what if it’s Heidi who is messing up? This is a woman who wrote “Gene” for Jeanne, “Denna” for Deena, and who in the recap complained about being “between a rock and a hard stone.” Also, given the problems with C1 in the first four boots, there might be some similar problems with his F4. Not enough to doubt the overall accuracy of what he claimed to find out, but enough to slightly throw things off. Just speculatin’
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