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"State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Please keep all spoilers in this thread so that West Coasters won't know how the administration is going to spend their paychecks until it's too late. Also, posters who yell "You lie!" will receive an automatic one-week appointment as a Blue Peep in the Jersey Shore forum. Finally, no sigpics, especially ones with dates in small font, should be used so that posters living in the 1990s can access the thread in a timely manner.

To help keep track of the speech, here is a scorecard:

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... samboohoo 01-27-10 1
   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Snidget 01-27-10 2
       RE: State of the Union East Coast T... mrc 01-27-10 3
           RE: State of the Union East Coast T... samboohoo 01-27-10 6
               RE: State of the Union East Coast T... mrc 01-27-10 8
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Max Headroom 01-27-10 4
   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... mrc 01-27-10 5
       RE: State of the Union East Coast T... AyaK 01-27-10 16
           RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Snidget 01-27-10 17
               RE: State of the Union East Coast T... AyaK 01-28-10 75
   Speaking of Mavricky Snidget 01-27-10 7
       RE: Speaking of Mavricky Max Headroom 01-27-10 10
           RE: Speaking of Mavricky Snidget 01-27-10 11
   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... HobbsofMI 01-27-10 9
       RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Brownroach 01-27-10 12
       RE: State of the Union East Coast T... mrc 01-27-10 13
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... bondt007 01-27-10 14
   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... mrc 01-27-10 15
       RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Tummy 01-27-10 18
           RE: State of the Union East Coast T... cahaya 01-27-10 29
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 19
   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... jbug 01-27-10 20
       RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Dakota 01-28-10 66
 At this point cahaya 01-27-10 21
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 22
   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 23
       RE: State of the Union East Coast T... jbug 01-27-10 25
           RE: State of the Union East Coast T... samboohoo 01-28-10 70
       RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 27
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... cahaya 01-27-10 24
   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Dakota 01-28-10 67
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... cahaya 01-27-10 26
   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 28
       RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Dakota 01-28-10 68
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 30
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 31
   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... cahaya 01-27-10 32
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 33
   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... samboohoo 01-28-10 71
       RE: State of the Union East Coast T... HistoryDetective 01-28-10 72
           RE: State of the Union East Coast T... samboohoo 01-28-10 73
               RE: State of the Union East Coast T... HistoryDetective 01-28-10 74
               RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Tummy 01-28-10 79
                   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... weltek 01-28-10 86
                   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... samboohoo 01-28-10 88
       RE: State of the Union East Coast T... jbug 01-28-10 80
           RE: State of the Union East Coast T... grit 01-28-10 81
               RE: State of the Union East Coast T... weltek 01-28-10 87
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... cahaya 01-27-10 34
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 35
   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 37
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... cahaya 01-27-10 36
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 38
   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... cahaya 01-27-10 39
       RE: State of the Union East Coast T... cahaya 01-27-10 40
           Zzzzzz... AyaK 01-27-10 42
               RE: Zzzzzz... cahaya 01-27-10 44
               RE: Zzzzzz... Denalio 01-27-10 46
                   RE: Zzzzzz... AyaK 01-28-10 76
                       RE: Zzzzzz... cahaya 01-28-10 77
                       RE: Zzzzzz... ginger 01-28-10 78
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 41
 "Let's try common sense" cahaya 01-27-10 43
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 45
   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... cahaya 01-27-10 48
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 47
   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... cahaya 01-27-10 52
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 49
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 50
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... foonermints 01-27-10 51
   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... cahaya 01-27-10 53
       RE: State of the Union East Coast T... cahaya 01-27-10 54
   RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 56
       RE: State of the Foonermint East Co... foonermints 01-27-10 63
           RE: State of the Foonermint East Co... Denalio 01-28-10 64
               RE: State of the Foonermint East Co... Denalio 01-28-10 65
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Denalio 01-27-10 55
 Now will there be a Republican rebu... Denalio 01-27-10 57
   The grade cahaya 01-27-10 58
       RE: The grade mrc 01-29-10 94
 Republican Response Denalio 01-27-10 59
   RE: Republican Response Denalio 01-27-10 60
   RE: Republican Response Denalio 01-27-10 61
       that's ok... Capn2patch 01-27-10 62
 RE: State of the Union East Coast T... Dakota 01-28-10 69
   BINGO! We have a weiner.. foonermints 01-28-10 90
       RE: BINGO! We have a weiner.. Dakota 01-29-10 92
 Alito mrc 01-28-10 82
   RE: Alito AyaK 01-28-10 89
       RE: Alito newsomewayne 01-29-10 91
           Correct AyaK 01-29-10 98
       RE: Alito mrc 01-29-10 93
       The Professor is in again HobbsofMI 01-29-10 95
           Sort of like this? mrc 01-29-10 96
               RE: Sort of like this? HobbsofMI 01-29-10 99
                   RE: Sort of like this? mrc 01-29-10 101
                       RE: Sort of like this? HobbsofMI 01-30-10 102
           RE: The Professor is in again AyaK 01-29-10 97
               RE: The Professor is in again HobbsofMI 01-29-10 100
 Fact check mrc 01-28-10 83
   RE: Fact check jbug 01-28-10 85
 Chris Matthews mrc 01-28-10 84

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samboohoo 17173 desperate attention whore postings
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01-27-10, 03:03 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
You know, I could give you the state of the union right now, and it would take me less than a minute. There would be no need to shift around other important programming like Modern Family and Cougar Town.

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01-27-10, 03:07 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Well if the Modern Family and Cougar Town peeps would fund their PACS like the Losties do you could have gotten the SOTU pushed into TAR's once all people playing sports anywhere in the world all drop dead slot on the TV schedule.
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01-27-10, 03:48 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Don't forget The Middle:

The State of the Union is for losers . . . losers.


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01-27-10, 04:03 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
I haven't seen that show - I missed it, and they don't carry the full season on ABC. I can't watch something unless I can start at the beginning. It's very Sheldon of me.


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01-27-10, 04:09 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Too bad. It's a lot of fun.

A PATCH of banana skin

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01-27-10, 03:50 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
You forgot to include "Maverick" and "You betcha" on the card.
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01-27-10, 03:57 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Those are being saved for the next administration. *shudders*
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01-27-10, 07:06 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
I'm quite confident that "you betcha" will not be the catch phrase for any administration within my lifetime. Of course, that might be because I'd blow my brains out if Palin were ever elected.
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01-27-10, 07:19 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
*opens calendar*
*makes note 11.6.2012 and 11.8.2016 set up suicide watch Ayak, if Palin*

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01-28-10, 08:48 AM (EST)
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75. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
I'm not losing sleep over the prospect. The far right loves Sarah Barracuda the same way that it loves Rush Limbaugh and that the far left loves Keith Obermeyer, but none will become president.
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01-27-10, 04:08 PM (EST)
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7. "Speaking of Mavricky"
Checked the listings.

NBC national listing says they are showing the address tonight.

Local affiliate?
Webpage, regular programming listed
DVR, regular programming listed
Zap2it, also has regular programming listed.

Have they
A) Stopped paying attention to NBC so long ago the don't bother to update when NBC said they were changing the schedule?
B) Making some sort of statement
C) Hiding under a rock until the Democrats are out of power
D) None of the above--please tell me why you think

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01-27-10, 04:28 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Speaking of Mavricky"
E) Airing a Jay Leno rerun.
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01-27-10, 04:59 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Speaking of Mavricky"
LAST EDITED ON 01-27-10 AT 09:08 PM (EST)

I think they have a L&O:SVU and Jay Leno reruns according to the DVR.

ETA: Local NBC affiliate just too lazy to change the webpage/send notice to the listings people.

They have the SOTU on.

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9. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
What about "you lie"?


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12. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
And we need to grade his speech patterns with:

"Absence of Negro Dialect"
- or -
"Negro Dialect Because He Wants To"


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13. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
It was disqualified b/c I used it in my post.
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14. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
...wait - is this a drinking scorecard?


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15. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Bingo, drinking, stripping--whatever floats your boat.
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18. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
I'll take "Drinking" for 1000.00 please.
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29. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
*bing bing bing bing!*

Double Jeopardy!

Now how much will you wager?

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19. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Reporting in -- watching CBS's coverage!

Printed out my Bingo card. Ready to roll...

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20. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Do all those women wear red cause they know they'll stand out?
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66. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Da Rulz say that if you're larger than anyone named Ringel you should wear yellow this week. The brighter the better.

Agman is the best-2010

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21. "At this point"
Talks serious, states core principles, gets a lot of applause, keeps talking, more applause, talking, applause, then he cracks a joke, laughing, serious talk, applause, joke, laugh, applause.

Yup.

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01-27-10, 09:25 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
So far I only marked off "Wall Street" and "Main Street".

At the beginning,he didn't say the "MY" -- just "Fellow Americans"

It's weird to see the Supreme Court Justices just sitting there never clapping or standing. Must be due to their proper decorum needs.

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01-27-10, 09:28 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Let's see if I can actually write something of substance...

1. Talked about how he he didn't like having to bail out the banks on wall street -- that no one liked it really, but it was needed to avoid the economy being even worse.

2. He wants the largest wall street companies who, since they can give themselves big bonuses, to give some of the taxpayers money back.

3. Talked about how there have been no increases in taxes, but in fact tax cuts for middle America

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25. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
I like his reddish tie

and? I believe he is wearing a flag pin!
camera needs to zoom in

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70. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
It's probably not a diamond-encrusted flag pin because that's apparently frowned upon.


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27. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Talked about:

4. additional tax breaks and proposals
(missed some details here)

5. the Jobs bill passed by the House. He wants a Jobs Bill on his desk soon.

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24. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
"Jobs is our number one priority for 2010."
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67. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
But, but it was our #1 priority LAST year. Time to get serious.

Agman is the best-2010

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26. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
"What some call the lost decade."
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28. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
I love the show Lost too, but it has not been on a whole decade!
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68. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
It's gonna blow!

Wait, didn't that phrase get this site started?

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30. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Real financial reform. Lobbyists are trying to kill it. We have to do this right!
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31. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Uh oh

He is talking about energy -- creating energy jobs, but also making "safe, clean nuclear energy plants"

and other stuff.

Clean energy incentives to make clean energy profitable in America.

-- oh year the word "bipartican" used.---

ohhs and ahhs when he mentions "climate change"....

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32. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
... acknowledges that the evidence is in dispute... but... but!
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33. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Increase exports.

Seek new markets

(Nancy Pelosi jumps up a lot - seems like a lot earlier/more than Biden does!)

EDUCATION

Schools stuff- "reward success", "support reform"

The best anti-povery program around is a world class education.
Revitalize the community colleges.

$10,00 tax credit for 4 years of college and increase pell grants.

No one should go broke because they go to college.

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71. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
I call Joe and Nancy the "Jancy in the Box."

Perhpas that should be a block on the next scorecard - one would however need ample notice in order to secure enough alcohol to cover it.


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72. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Just curious: Do Biden and Pelosi more often show approval by standing than their predecessors? Or do they jump up ad down as often as Dick and Denny did for W? Or do we only notice some elements of political theater when it's the other party sitting (or jumping out of) those seats?

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73. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Frankly, I think they all look like a bunch of idiots jumping up and down at almost every single thing said. Perhaps I notice it more because I've been watching it more during this administration or because maybe that's where the camera is more focussed. I think I tend to notice it more because of what I perceive as the smugness in the smiles on their face echoing the smugness and arrogance of the one speaking - especially when he speaks to and about the Republicans in what I perceive to be either a condenscending or appeasing way.



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74. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Perhaps I don't understand what you mean by "appeasing," but for months I have had the impression that Republicans wanted to be appeased, i.e. have the administration and Democrats in Congress bend to their will and take their ideas into account.

And, for what it's worth, I found W, Dick, and Denny pretty condescending, smug, and arrogant --- and rarely, if ever, willing to work with the opposition party in ways that could be classified as either cooperating or appeasing.

I guess that it's all in the eye of the beholder.

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79. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Those were my exact feeling when Bush was in office. I wanted to wipe the smugness and the arrogance off Cheney's face everytime he was on tv. I just wanted Bush to buy a clue most of the time, but I did hate his smirk.
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86. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Our local radio dj said this morning he missed Cheney sitting and stroking a white cat during the SOTU. *snort*

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88. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
See, I finally appreciate your pain.


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DH mentioned several times that Joe looked like he only got up cause Nancy did; I said well, he is older so it's hard to get up & down that many times; and besides every time he gets up, he has to hold his tie when he sits down and straighten his coat, so all that is just a pain in the **s.

(FTR? I have always thought those behind the one speaking looked like pop ups; regardless of party.)

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81. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
They need to install a seat belt for Nancy Pelosi before the next State of the Union address.

I agree, several times Joe got up only because Nancy did.

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87. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Or give her the pom poms she obviously desires.

-A Tribetastic Creation
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34. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
"We still need health insurance reform". (applause)

"We do."

Talks serious, jokes, serious, jokes again.

Here's a rare President since Lincoln who can actually joke. And not be one.

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35. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 01-27-10 AT 09:47 PM (EST)

economy/ mortgage talk


and now, he says we still need Health insurance reform!

"Now, let's clear a few things up.
I didn't chose to tackle this issue to get some issue under my belt or by now it should be clear I didn't do it because it was good politics. I did it because of the stories I heard." (Tells of people who have struggled/suffered).

Health issues

Michelle Obama is tackling the issue of childhood obesity.


edit - typo

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37. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
He basically just said he is trying to fix a serious problem with health care reform and if anyone has a better idea of how to accomplish various needs, let me know!

He urges congress not to walk away from this problem.

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36. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 01-27-10 AT 09:50 PM (EST)

"I will not walk away..."

"... both parties... let me know! Right now!"

Now that's prime Prez trash talk.

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38. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Deficit talk. How things were before he even walked through the door. Already a big deficit due to 2 wars, economy, prescription drug plan etc.

(My brain sometimes goes on "tilt" when people start talking about trillions/squizillions etc.)

Plan to freeze gov't spending for 3 years except - nat'l security/ medicare/ medicaid/ social security and I think one other mentioned - will not be affected.

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39. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
And plays the veto card. "I will."

Don't think he's totally bluffing.

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40. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
"I refuse to pass the problem on..."
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42. "Zzzzzz..."
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44. "RE: Zzzzzz..."
Just for that you don't get to grade the speech.
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46. "RE: Zzzzzz..."
You can snooze with the Supreme Court folks who get to just sit there looking bored.
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76. "RE: Zzzzzz..."
The Supreme Court justices were required by decorum to sit still; I was free to watch an ER rerun that I'd TiVoed.

No, cahaya, I can't grade the entire speech, just the part I saw, and it was a typical yawner, just like Bush's and Clinton's before him. The last State of the Union I remember was Bush 41's well-written "thousand points of light" speech ... which proved to be nothing more than the usual hollow rhetoric, despite the enduring phrase that arose from it.

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77. "RE: Zzzzzz..."
I thought it was a good speech delivered well. I tend to agree with you, though, I don't expect much to be delivered as a result of it.
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78. "RE: Zzzzzz..."
Not sure Scalia got the "sit still for decorum's sake" memo.



"If you believe that the right of a fetus to be born is more important than any right the woman carrying the child might have, but do not believe in making sure that every child has access to adequate health care, education, or any of the other basic needs an individual requires to become a functioning, capable, productive member of society, then you are NOT pro-life. You’re just pro-birth." -- Devious Weasel

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41. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Create a Bipartisan fiscal commission.

Has to be a real commission that will actually establish specific tasks and deadlines. Apparently the senate voted down creating this commission so Obama says he will use executive order-- he refuses to pass this problem on to the next administration.

The freeze will start next year.


(Correct me if I have totally misunderstood anything I have posted!)

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43. ""Let's try common sense""
"A novel concept."

True dat on the Hill.

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45. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 01-27-10 AT 10:28 PM (EST)

Talking about lobbyists now --

limit their contributions, show who they really are and who they are working for.


Obama does not agree with the recent Supreme Court ruling that lets corporations give whatever they want...

Does not think American policies/laws should be decided by the wealthiest or foreign companies.

Urges congress to pass a bill to correct some of these problems

Earmark requests have to be better managed, contatined and more transparent. Posted on a website for all to see how the money is being spent.

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48. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Yeah, if they can post the bills in a way more accessible to citizens on the Web (rather than political lawyers in thousand page tomes), I'm all for it.
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47. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 01-27-10 AT 10:30 PM (EST)

Obama: I am not naive. I knew when I got elected we could not just sit around and sing Kumbaya and all our problems would disappear
(I, denalio, am taking liberties with my summary here)

Obama: But, I still want to see what we can do together, what we CAN accomplish. We need to change to tone of American politics.


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52. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Alas, given the political realities and the long-entrenched forces influencing the lawmakers, this speech will give some cause for thought to joint action but a rare few to work together across established lines.
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49. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Throughout history, nothing has united us together more than security.

Lets not look back or try to blame anyone about how that good will or unity was lost or squandered, but lets continue to do what needs to be done.


(Is this correct?)
combat troops out of Iraq by August. Make no mistake. This war is ending and all of our troops are coming home.

gratitude and respect for troops - where they are at now and support when they come home.

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50. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Veterans support -

support military families. Building VA


Concerns about nuclear war/ arms control treaty.

April in Wash DC, a nuclear summit to secure nukes so they do not fall into the hands of terrorists.

Currently sanctions against N Korea. Isolation. Also looking at Iran.

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51. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"

bored out of the foonergourd©
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53. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
I'll put my chip on 'china'.
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54. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
Gets introspective about government and the people within it. Admits that many Americans may doubt that change can happen or that he can deliver.

Barack's sober side.

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56. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
I love this! Pants on the Ground! But you need to replace one of the "Paris Hiltons" with "the Soft Kitty Song"!
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63. "RE: State of the Foonermint East Coast Thread"


Handcrafted by RollDdice
What on Earth is"The Soft Kitty" Song?

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64. "RE: State of the Foonermint East Coast Thread"
Oh Fooner!

I thought you would know this! It's Sheldon's sick song from The Big Bang Theory!


First time Sheldon asks Penny to sing Soft Kitty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-qra604RbU

Penny sings Soft Kitty again to Sheldon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9DdiZBnpoQ


Sheldon and Penny sing Soft Kitty in a round
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Z5wQHGn5g

All are so enjoyable beyond belief!

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65. "RE: State of the Foonermint East Coast Thread"
Darth Vader sings Soft Kitty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oddxZb8fAFc

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55. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
shazzbot

I don't know why one of my posts didn't show up...I probably hit the reset button instead of post message.

but it said something like - he is summarizing up the big picture- economy, energy, security

mentions HIV/AIDS research and treatment

Haiti rebuilding

he said he will repeal the law that prohibits gays from serving in the military

He said if you abide by the law you should be protected by the law. If you follow common values, you should be __ uh something ...

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57. "Now will there be a Republican rebuttal?"
The Fooner bingo card will be perfect for that!
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58. "The grade"
B+.

Read: Barack Plus.

My wife commented on how he delivered the whole speech, serious, joking and all, without seeming to look at a script he already knew.

It remains to be seen how much impact his speech will have in action as well as thought within the lawmaking body.

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94. "RE: The grade"
WASHINGTON -- Just days after President Barack Obama endorsed a partial freeze on domestic spending, his Democratic allies in the Senate have rejected a plan attempting to do pretty much the same thing.

Old-school Democrats were the driving force in killing the bipartisan legislation, sponsored by Alabama Republican Jeff Sessions and Missouri Democrat Claire McCaskill. Their plan was slightly modified version of Obama's that would have permitted domestic agencies an increase of just about 1 percent, with slightly higher boosts for the Pentagon.

A 56-strong majority of senators supported the plan but it failed because 60 votes were required. The vote came the morning after Obama threatened to veto spending bills that would exceed a domestic spending freeze.

http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/national/story/309653.html

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59. "Republican Response"
Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell

Very very very enthusiastic crowd applauding McDonnell

The current government is trying to do too much.

We need to return to the proper role of government which is less government.

Look on facebook/twitter for information about republican ideas

Drilling off Virginia for oil.

Need a good education. More Charter schools.

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60. "RE: Republican Response"
applaud Obama deploying 30,000 more to Afghanistan

Not happy with Christmas day underpants bombing attempt and not liking that the terrorist was given same rights as citizens.

many are concerned with over-regulating car companies, banks, wall street. One size fits all does not work here.

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61. "RE: Republican Response"
oops i got a phone call. no longer tracking
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62. "that's ok..."
... refer to post 42.
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69. "RE: State of the Union East Coast Thread"
I didn't see the whole thing except for the bright yellow suit that made me cover my eyes. FYI, Comcast Sports Network reportedly got $300 million from the NBA to show sports. Or was that someone else? Anyway, I'm so glad I could come here instead of CNN.

Let me give some highlights that I didn't read above in sufficient detail. Some of you were out getting more beer.

We're getting serious about jobs and the economy now. Last year, the $787 billion, that apparently wasn't serious.

Jobs. People need them. Yes. That would be good. Oh, wait, you covered that.

We should be the first country on the planet to get this green thing right. We'll be rich. We'll lead the world.

He has not raised anyone's taxes. Yet. Of course, our grandchildren and 60% of the income they will eventually earn has already been promised to China.

It's ok if our bills oink. But we're going to post it online now. So there, nah nah.

The Bulls won.

Agman is the best-2010

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90. "BINGO! We have a weiner.."

Well, ObamaBingo.
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92. "RE: BINGO! We have a weiner.."
Is there pork in that weiner?
Agman is the best-2010

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82. "Alito"
In my time-honored tradition, I skipped the SotU address, preferring to read summaries.

I did see Alito's mouthing of "not true" during the speech on the 11:00 news, however. Not quite as outspoken as "You lie!" I guess--I haven't heard much uproar.

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89. "RE: Alito"
Well, it wasn't true. As a former law professor, Obama should have known better. Here's what Obama said:

"With all due deference to separation of powers, last week the Supreme Court reversed a century of law that I believe will open the floodgates for special interests--including foreign corporations--to spend without limit in our elections. I don't think American elections should be bankrolled by America's most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities. They should be decided by the American people. And I'd urge Democrats and Republicans to pass a bill that helps to correct some of these problems."

The history part is nonsense, and you can't "pass a bill" to change the Constitution.

Even far-left NYT legal writer Linda Greenhouse knows better:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/justice-alitos-reaction/

"The law that Congress enacted in the populist days of the early 20th century prohibited direct corporate contributions to political campaigns. That law was not at issue in the Citizens United case, and is still on the books. Rather, the court struck down a more complicated statute that barred corporations and unions from spending money directly from their treasuries--as opposed to their political action committees--on television advertising to urge a vote for or against a federal candidate in the period immediately before the election. It is true, though, that the majority wrote so broadly about corporate free speech rights as to call into question other limitations as well--although not necessarily the existing ban on direct contributions."

But despite what the far left sees as the majority "writing broadly", it did not strike down or even attempt to strike down other provisions of the laws regulating contributions to candidates. The law that was struck down was one of those laws that has been widely circumvented through the use of PACs, as those of us who complained about misleading PAC names in the recent Massachusetts special election know. The fact that the SEIU couldn't directly run advertising urging a vote for Coakley didn't stop three different SEIU PACs from running ads urging such a vote.

Basically, at this point, this is much ado about nothing. So far, however, I think the entire Obama presidency can be characterized that way.

From what I heard, the tenor of his speech was that he wasn't about to compromise one inch from his far-left beliefs. That's fine, if he doesn't want to pass any legislation. Jefferson wrote, "That government which governs least governs best," and that may well be a summary of the Obama years.

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91. "RE: Alito"
So in other words, current law says corporations can't make unlimited contributions to a candidate, but they can spend all they want on their own advertisements about a candidate. Correct?
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98. "Correct"
The hundred year old law to which Obama referred bans direct corporate contributions to a candidate. Despite Obama's assertions, that law remains unchanged.
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93. "RE: Alito"
A noted Supreme Court historian who “enthusiastically” voted for President Obama in November 2008 today called President Obama’s criticism of the Supreme Court in his State of the Union address last night “really unusual” and said he wouldn’t be surprised if no Supreme Court Justices attend the speech next year.

“It was really unusual in my mind to see the president going after the Supreme Court in such a forum,” said author and Law Professor Lucas Powe, the Anne Green Regents Chair in Law, and a Professor of Government at the University of Texas-Austin School of Law. “I’m willing to bet a lot of money there will be no Supreme Court justice at the next State of the Union speech.”

Added Professor Powe, who clerked for Supreme Court Justice William Douglas, “you don’t go to be insulted. I can’t see the Justices wanting to be there and be insulted by the president.” His opinion has nothing to do with animus towards the President, for whom Powe said he voted enthusiastically.

President Obama took the apparently unprecedented step of assailing a Supreme Court decision in his speech last night, saying, “with all due deference to separation of powers, last week the Supreme Court reversed a century of law to open the floodgates for special interests – including foreign corporations – to spend without limit in our elections. Well I don't think American elections should be bankrolled by America's most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities. They should be decided by the American people, and that's why I'd urge Democrats and Republicans to pass a bill that corrects some of these problems."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/01/supreme-court-historian-after-presidents-insult-wont-be-surprised-if-supreme-court-doesnt-attend-next-year.html

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95. "The Professor is in again"
Cameras Roll As Obama Schools GOP


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96. "Sort of like this?"
I wish I had teleprompters for my lectures:

Yes, I know it is for a news conference after speaking to the kiddos, but it still looks funny!

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99. "RE: Sort of like this?"
Please name a modern President that did not use one.


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101. "RE: Sort of like this?"
Our Rotary president doesn't, but he's a sucky speaker.
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102. "RE: Sort of like this?"
*snicker* good one.


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97. "RE: The Professor is in again"
I can see why the moonbats at the Puffington Host would think highly of a speech in which Obama called for Republicans to surrender to the inevitable and join his cult of personality.

It's obvious that Obama doesn't play well with others. He's a "my way or the highway" kind of guy. Pair that with the right-wingers who want to add an ideological purity test in the Republican Party, and you have a recipe for explosive dysfunction.

Instead of denying his inner ideologue, Obama should embrace it. Instead of fantasies such as universal health care will lower expenses, which everyone understands is preposterous, Obama should have been out there appealing to those worried that they'll lose their jobs and their health care too.

We need some adults in Washington, but this health care battle feels like a juvenile clique fight in high school. In that respect, nothing that happened today helps the US one bit.

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100. "RE: The Professor is in again"
I thought you would like it.

I have not seen it but I had those hopes for Obama but it seems like the Dems are their own worst enemy but if the Pubs keep playing the party of NO who knows what happens in 2010.


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83. "Fact check"
Per the usual for a SotU Address, some facts were massaged:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35112718/ns/politics-white_house/

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85. "RE: Fact check"
Well that was interesting
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84. "Chris Matthews"
I understand what Matthews was trying to say, but it was an awkward way to say it.

I was trying to think about who he was tonight. It's interesting: he is post-racial, by all appearances. I forgot he was black tonight for an hour. You know, he's gone a long way to become a leader of this country, and passed so much history, in just a year or two. I mean, it's something we don't even think about. I was watching, I said, wait a minute, he's an African-American guy in front of a bunch of other white people. And here he is president of the United States and we've completely forgotten that tonight — completely forgotten it. I think it was in the scope of his discussion. It was so broad-ranging, so in tune with so many problems, of aspects, and aspects of American life that you don't think in terms of the old tribalism, the old ethnicity. It was astounding in that regard. A very subtle fact. It's so hard to talk about. Maybe I shouldn't talk about it, but I am. I thought it was profound that way.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/28/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6150964.shtml

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