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"Brians Wife Arrested"
Not sure If I should have posted this in bashers, or here. But what does that say about how brian fares in the show, based on TDT predictions.

Here is the link.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/heidikabuse1.html

feel free to move the thread if necessary.


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 RE: Brians Wife Arrested Bungler 12-12-02 1
   RE: Brians Wife Arrested Q 12-12-02 2
   RE: Brians Wife Arrested katem 12-12-02 3
       RE: Brians Wife Arrested erikman 12-12-02 6
 RE: Brians Wife Arrested FesterFan1 12-12-02 4
   RE: Brians Wife Arrested frisky 12-12-02 9
   RE: Brians Wife Arrested ulalame 12-12-02 10
   RE: Brians Wife Arrested Chrissy gal 12-12-02 11
       RE: Brians Wife Arrested Bebo 12-12-02 14
       RE: Brians Wife Arrested AZ_Leo 12-12-02 16
           RE: Brians Wife Arrested Bebo 12-13-02 30
   RE: Brians Wife Arrested big idiot 12-12-02 13
 RE: Brians Wife Arrested Brownroach 12-12-02 5
   RE: Brians Wife Arrested Bebo 12-12-02 7
       RE: Brians Wife Arrested Brownroach 12-12-02 12
   RE: Brians Wife Arrested erikman 12-12-02 8
 RE: Brians Wife Arrested Loree 12-12-02 15
   RE: Brians Wife Arrested ivoryElephant 12-12-02 17
 RE: Brians Wife Arrested NorthOfBoston 12-12-02 18
 RE: Brians Wife Arrested Outfrontgirl 12-12-02 19
   Two thoughts AyaK 12-12-02 21
       RE: Two thoughts Outfrontgirl 12-13-02 23
           RE: Two thoughts SurvivinDawg 12-13-02 37
               However... AyaK 12-13-02 38
                   RE: However... SurvivinDawg 12-13-02 43
       RE: Two thoughts dekko 12-13-02 46
   RE: Brians Wife Arrested FSUGUY 12-12-02 22
       RE: Brians Wife Arrested timbo 12-13-02 24
           HI timbo! AyaK 12-13-02 25
           RE: Brians Wife Arrested FSUGUY 12-13-02 26
               RE: Brians Wife Arrested ulalame 12-13-02 28
               RE: Brians Wife Arrested timbo 12-13-02 29
                   RE: Brians Wife Arrested toddE 12-13-02 31
                       RE: Brians Wife Arrested Lilybet 12-13-02 32
                           RE: Brians Wife Arrested Q 12-13-02 33
                               RE: Brians Wife Arrested Lilybet 12-13-02 34
                                   RE: Brians Wife Arrested starshyn99 12-13-02 45
               RE: Brians Wife Arrested katem 12-13-02 35
                   Yep AyaK 12-13-02 40
                   RE: Brians Wife Arrested FSUGUY 12-13-02 41
           RE: Brians Wife Arrested pancho 12-13-02 42
 Yes Snoochie, there is a Santa Clau... snoocharoo 12-12-02 20
   RE: Yes Snoochie, there is a Santa ... katem 12-13-02 36
       RE: Yes Snoochie, there is a Santa ... snoocharoo 12-13-02 39
           RE: Yes Snoochie, there is a Santa ... Metria 12-16-02 48
 New Article on Yahoo Q 12-13-02 27
   RE: New Article on Yahoo katem 12-13-02 44
 article on ew.com I_AM_HE 12-15-02 47
   RE: article on ew.com waterbug 12-17-02 49
       RE: article on ew.com FSUGUY 12-17-02 50
           Strategy AyaK 12-17-02 51
           RE: article on ew.com Q 12-18-02 52
       RE: article on ew.com lionsroar 12-18-02 53
           RE: article on ew.com Q 12-18-02 54
               RE: article on ew.com mtopaz 12-18-02 60
           RE: article on ew.com AZ_Leo 12-18-02 55
           Woman Porned--errr Scorned FesterFan1 12-18-02 56
               RE: Woman Porned--errr Scorned AZ_Leo 12-18-02 57
               RE: Woman Porned--errr Scorned lionsroar 12-19-02 62
   Snewser's article says Brian has no... Sexishelly 12-18-02 58
       RE: Snewser's article says Brian ha... snoocharoo 12-18-02 59
 Maybe he's stepping back into chara... frisky 12-18-02 61

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12-12-02, 03:55 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
Wow, not sure what happened there, but I don't think it harms Brian's chances for winning the $1M. It might even boost his chances. He's left his job, and now his wife's gone. The King looks like he can live pretty high on that throne, and enjoy it however his little soft porn heiney likes.
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12-12-02, 04:04 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
Agree, could this mean he does win, or at least beleives he won the vote. Could they have fought over money, what she did in the first reward video Brian won, or would he not tell her what happened.

I think this adds to the other Spoilers out there pointing to Brian in the F2.


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3. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
>He's left his job, and
>now his wife's gone.
>The King looks like he
>can live pretty high on
>that throne, and enjoy it
>however his little soft porn
>heiney likes.

ROFLMAO Bungler

This does not affect the game in the very least. I think Brian might be relieved to be rid of her actually. I base this on the way he would look at her on the show, like a bit embarrassed. Maybe I just saw too much.

Interesting story though.


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6. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
wait she beat him up. to bad it looks like clay wins. man i love this cast. no normal people in this bunch
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4. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
Very interesting that this assault happened 3 days after E9, where Brian pretty much dissed his wife on national TV during the tapes from home segment.

Coincidence?

Fester

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9. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
LAST EDITED ON 12-12-02 AT 04:35 PM (EST)

He he...thanks Fester for dating the incident in relation to the show. I was wondering when I read the police report what episode had run on the prior Thursday. Looks like she stewed for a couple of days before she blew.

***edited for spelling

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10. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
No kidding! Between this and their porn past, it must be a barrel of laughs at the Heidik house.

Btw, anyone know what happened to the little kid that was in the video from home? Is that Brian and Cici's child, or just hers?

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11. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
Exactly what I was thinking FesterFan.

One thing about the $1M, California is a community property state, if Brian won (because the votes were cast in Thailand) then his wife is entitled to half since they were married at the time.

Did you notice that she was assigned a public defender? This would mean that the Heideks do not have very much money, or she would have gotten her own attorney.

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14. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
Did you notice that she was assigned a public defender? This would mean that the Heideks do not have very much money, or she would have gotten her own attorney.

Or the king controls the purse strings and didn't want her to have too good of an attorney. He may be planning his future strategy. Or they might have spent all of their money on stuff and not have the cash flow for a retainer.


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16. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
Keep in mind he doesn't have the money yet. The winner usually doesn't get the check until the Early Show after the finale (assuming that's the real thing). I don't know when the losers get their cash.
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30. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
>Keep in mind he doesn't have the money yet.

I was referring to all of the stuff we were shown during his home video (like his baby grand piano, cars, etc.). They are not hurting for stuff, even though they have not received Brian's prize winnings from the show yet.

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13. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
Fester, great point on the timing.

This could validate the TDT spoiler:
He starts out by teasing her that IF he loses the million then it is HER fault for that video. A couple days of cutting remarks and tempers rising and then Blam-o, she goes nutsy.
This may also explain the source of the TDT spoiler, she is obviously a loose canon, maybe she blabbed a bit too much in her social circles and that is how it got to TDT's source.

Of course, it could be seen the other way:
He was teasing her after that episode that it is that video she made that resulted in him NOT getting to the final two.

Bottom line is that he may be better at picking allies than wives...

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12-12-02, 04:23 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
I'd say this is a spoiler that Brian wins. Looks like he's trying to screw over ALL of his confidantes, in and out of the game!

Guess a certain bug-fearing, hip-shaking reward loser's not going to Fiji after all, LOL.

Gee, ya think maybe this is why Jeff Probst is hosting the reunion show? MB can rest assured JP would NEVER bring up Porno King's past career, his jailbird partner, Clay's deadbeat reputation, GDiva's sexual harassment....this is a FAMILY show after all.

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7. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
Gee, ya think maybe this is why Jeff Probst is hosting the reunion show? MB can rest assured JP would NEVER bring up Porno King's past career, his jailbird partner, Clay's deadbeat reputation, GDiva's sexual harassment....this is a FAMILY show
after all.

You could be on to something there. While most people in the non-spoiling community might not care who hosts, this is the best way for MB to control the questioning.


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12. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
I suspected something when I first read about JP hosting the finale.

I just looked back on the board and the CBS Press release about JP hosting came out on November 27th --- 10 days after this incident. Hmmm.

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8. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
they need to have jerry springer host the show. that reunion will be a hoot
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15. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
This is hilarious. I'll be thinking about it when I watch Brian tonight.
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17. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
I am glad to know she won't get his million if he wins.
That was the only reason I didn't want him to win.

It was bad enough that he was sleazy but that another sleazeball would get the money made me mad.

What a couple of great role models for their child.


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18. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
I have no spoiler information to add here (sorry!); I just want to add my two cents that this is the funniest thing to be related to this season's episodes, hands down!!

And how about that picture of the wife on the newsclip? Is she the poster child for air brushing or WHAT??!!

My guess is that Brian knew he was in the final two, watched the episode with his wife, then made some sort of comment about what a trashy wh*re she appeared to be on the video (like that's anything new) and told her something like "Why did you show all of our expensive belongings, moron? If they didn't vote for me to win the million, it's all your fault, you worthless porn b*tch!!" And then of course she blacked out for 3 days and then popped him in the mouth, breaking his nose and thus opening all sorts of franchise opportunities for Brian in Pinocchio-themed porn.

heeheeheehee actually that scenario is just for my amusement. I'll take it to bashers next time.

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19. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
Some clarifications and thoughts:

CC certainly will get at least half the money if Brian won the game last July. Any income produced while in the marriage is community property (and they may not divorce anyway).

No one on the show gets any money (or the vehicle) until after the Finale airs. The better to shut them up.

CC can switch to a better lawyer before the trial IF they think it will go to trial, if THEY can afford one and is entitled to draw on their funds, no matter if he controls the pursestrings.

He didn't press charges; the state did, and it was a punch in the nose, not a shooting. If he decides to say it was no big deal, the thing will probably go away without a trial and no need to waste money on a lawyer. We'll see how bitter he is.

Pastor John said how much Brian talked about his kid and how he looked at Survivor as a college fund. If they do divorce, or plan to, I imagine Brian will want custody and can use this to his advantage.

One thing worse than being married to a total bimbo is being married to an angry violent erratic bimbo.

OTOH, maybe he made one too many cracks about women's natural roles. Boy, what a mess for Brian.

However, as people pointed out, this has no effect whatsoever on who won the game because that was all decided months earlier.

Brian doesn't know who won, in all likelihood, although the questions at the last TC probably gave an indication of how the jurors felt.

Lastly, I would bet money that this was NOT the source for the TDT spoiler.

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21. "Two thoughts"
LAST EDITED ON 12-12-02 AT 09:42 PM (EST)

>CC certainly will get at least half the money if Brian
>won the game last July. Any income produced while
>in the marriage is community property (and they may not
>divorce anyway).

True. However ... a criminal charge would have great weight in a custody trial. Plus, if Brian got custody, he could end up with C.C. having to pay him child support out of the money. Thus, while C.C. would get half of the million, she might not get to keep it for very long.

Notice that, according to The Smoking Gun, C.C. had to sit in jail for two days before she got out. Sounds like Brian's pretty bitter to me!

>CC can switch to a better lawyer before the trial IF
>they think it will go to trial, if THEY can
>afford one and is entitled to draw on their funds,
>no matter if he controls the pursestrings.

True again ... although I don't know how a better lawyer will help her on this charge.

>If he decides to say it was no big deal, the thing
>will probably go away without a trial and no need
>to waste money on a lawyer. We'll see how bitter he is.

"Probably" is the operative word here. The state could choose to go forward even if Brian decided that he wanted the matter to drop -- but, as a practical matter, most prosecutors would follow the wishes of the victim.

However, I tend to doubt that Brian wants to drop the matter. My judgment here is based on former Cleveland Indians pitcher (and current St. Louis Cardinals pitcher) Chuck Finley, who was married to former porn queen Tawny Kitaen until this spring. Kitaen attacked Finley just before the start of the season -- he called 911 -- she was arrested -- and he went forward with both the charges and the divorce.

My general perception is that the only people who take abusers back are those who are frightened about their financial prospects. Since, in this country, men are still the main earners, most men don't have that fear ... and so, when they call 911, they're already planning the divorce.

>Pastor John said how much Brian talked about his kid and
>how he looked at Survivor as a college fund.
>If they do divorce, or plan to, I imagine Brian
>will want custody and can use this to his advantage.

Ah, this is what I get for posting before reading all of your post, OFG -- I made the same point earlier in my post.

>One thing worse than being married to a total bimbo is
>being married to an angry violent erratic bimbo.

>Lastly, I would bet money that this was NOT the source
>for the TDT spoiler.

I completely agree.

Edited to add that this post is called "Two Thoughts" because I was only going to respond to your first two points. I guess I'm too much of a DAW to stop once I got started.

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23. "RE: Two thoughts"
Like you ever had only two thoughts, AyaK <snicker>

You convinced me that Brian has no reason to take C.C. back. Good point about his decision to call 911! I do wonder if he will want a trial 3 days before the Finale. Sucky timing if he wins the game. As you said, he might not have a choice and he might want her convicted so he can use that in a custody proceeding.

Brian never looked happy to see C.C. on the show, and it seemed like more than just strategy. He may have been really weary of her when he signed up for the show. It's possible this was part of his original business trip plan--to become independent of her. So he has to split it: he still has enough to become a single parent and as AyaK says, she gets to pay child support out of her half.

OTOH, I can see how one might want to punch Brian...
"Honey, we DO still have an alliance, right?"

"Um, I'll have to check back with you, sure, yeah, maybe, I don't know how the others stand on it..."

"What others?"

Uh, business, nothing personal, gotta look out for myself, good luck, we'll see how the cookie crumbles ..."

WHAM!!!

*not condoning violence, just joking*

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37. "RE: Two thoughts"
To OFG and AyaK:
I agree with lots of what both of you say.

I'm not surprised that something like this happened, and I suspect that Brian is going to use this to get a divorce and get custody of the child. This is made clear by her having to use a Public Defender; she obviously cannot afford a lawyer on her own.


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38. "However..."
...as OFG points out, she will be able to use the marital assets to hire a lawyer for her trial, even if Brian doesn't want to allow her to do so.
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43. "RE: However..."
I totally agree with you and OFG on this item. I merely use it to point out Brian's intentions to be rid of this woman as his wife.

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46. "RE: Two thoughts"
Just to correct... Tawny Kitaen isn't a "porn queen." She's done plenty of nudity (most vividly in THE PERILS OF GWENDOLINE IN THE LAND OF THE YIK-YAK), but no porn. At least no more than Brian's done.

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22. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
Brian hasn't won anything yet. he's at zero until the end of the game. nobody else has been paid.

just like in lotto. i buy on wed - i don't win until it is officially resulted on sat.. same in horse racing. Don't pay until it's over. CC gets nothing!

maybe (MAYBE!) a good lawyer can part of the 2nd place 100K.

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24. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
>Brian hasn't won anything yet. he's
>at zero until the end
>of the game. nobody else
>has been paid.
>
>just like in lotto. i buy
>on wed - i don't
>win until it is officially
>resulted on sat.. same in
>horse racing. Don't pay until
>it's over. CC gets nothing!

Ok, I'm de-lurking for this point. I'm a lawyer, but not in california, and not in a community property state, either. If Brain and CC were to get a divorce, and even if it were to occur before it was announced he won (if he did), she would be entitled to half the money. The basis is when the money is earned. Assuming the voting took place before the divorce, and assuming that Brian won the vote and that it could not be changed, then Brian has already earned the money.

It would be similar to you completing a job on Jan. 31, but you get paid for it on Feb. 15. If in the meantime, you were able to complete some type of quicky divorce, the money from the job is still considered marital property.

The lottery would be different. If you buy a ticket on Wed., you have not earned the money, but bought a license to compete for the money. Once your number was called on Saturday, though, the money would be an "account receivable" and would be a marital asset.

Of course, the laws in your jurisdiction may vary, and you should not construe any of this as legal advice for your own personal situation. Sorry, I just had to throw that in there to CMA.

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25. "HI timbo!"
It's always nice to welcome another lawyer into our midst. You can never have too many lawyers ... unless they're billing you for their time.

Back in S1, we only had a few lawyers on board -- including myself and Dalton, who will be co-writing this week's S5 summary -- but, starting with shakes the clown, the size of our legal contingent has swelled since then!

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26. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
Interesting points.

Is this a job (business trip) or a game (outplay)?
If it's a job then i can see your point. But, I think it's a game and at the time of the seperation he has won nothing.

You do have me re-thnking this a little.

If he's 3 or 4 he has won a set amount already (using you job analogy). In the final 2 he has a 100K minimum. So i can see her trying to get that. But at this point he has not won the million(lotto analogy).

If he wins prior to a divorce, can she get it or is seperation the key date? there's no way he can get a divorce by then.

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28. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
My two cents. Although I am not a family law attorney, I am a lawyer in California (yes, another one!) and did have to study community property for the bar, and have worked on litigation matters where family law is an issue. I believe the rule is that until you are legally separated, all earnings are community property--and I think you need a technical declaration of the separation--filing for divorce is not enough. Often in dissolution actions you will see an entry of judgment that the marriage is over while the parties are still fighting over division of assets and custody. This is obtained by the party with the money, so he (usually) doesn't have to keep having his earnings considered part of the marital community. I highly doubt that Brian, even if he is contemplating divorce, would be able to obtain such a determination before next Thursday.
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29. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
>Interesting points.
>
>Is this a job (business trip)
>or a game (outplay)?
>If it's a job then i
>can see your point. But,
>I think it's a game
>and at the time of
>the seperation he has won
>nothing.
>
>You do have me re-thnking this
>a little.
>
>If he's 3 or 4 he
>has won a set amount
>already (using you job analogy).
>In the final 2 he
>has a 100K minimum. So
>i can see her trying
>to get that. But at
>this point he has not
>won the million(lotto analogy).
>
>If he wins prior to a
>divorce, can she get it
>or is seperation the key
>date? there's no way he
>can get a divorce by
>then.

Well, I was trying to show more the argument I would make, if I represented CC. There are arguments and counter-arguments either way.

The question about divorce vs. seperation depends on juridiction. In mine, (Mississippi) there is no clear-cut answer. Some cases have said you're married until the divorce decree, and others have said it's when you stop living as "man and wife". Since I believe California has a legally recognized status of "seperated," I would bet it's the seperation date there.

Usual disclaimers apply.


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31. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
I'm not a lawyer, but I am a divorced Californian, and believe me, CC might not get custody, but she will get half the money if he wins, regardless of when they separated, and she probably won't have to pay child support, unless she has her own income.


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32. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
I too am not a lawyer, but I work in child support. Most states do have guidelines that govern what kind of income can be used to pay child support. So, assuming that she does get 1/2 of the money and this is her only source of income a court can use that income to establish an amount that she would have to pay in support. I'm not sure what the guidelines say in CA but that is the way it is here in NC. Based on this Brian would still end up getting the money back, it would just take longer!!
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33. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
Another NC Poster.

Hello Lilybet. I am in Raleigh Here.


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34. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
I'm over in Hickory and celebrating the fact that we have power now!
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45. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
I'm in Rock Hill, let me second that YAY POWER!!
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35. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
LAST EDITED ON 12-13-02 AT 02:30 PM (EST)

>If he wins prior to a
>divorce, can she get it
>or is seperation the key
>date? there's no way he
>can get a divorce by
>then.

I AM a lawyer in CA, so let me tell you that SEPARATION is the key word here. When were they separated? They were separated a few weeks ago. The show was already being aired on CBS. The show had already been taped.

You say he has won nothing yet. But I disagree here. The votes were cast way back when. There is NOTHING he can do now. If he won, he won when the votes were cast.

As per CA C.P. laws, CC will be entitled to half the money. AND that's after Uncle Sam gets his share. This cash is not Brian's seperate property, it is a marital asset.


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40. "Yep"
So ... we have three lawyers who agree that the cash is a marital asset.

For you non-lawyers out there, any time you can get three lawyers to agree on anything when there's no financial incentive for them to do so, you've probably reached one of the few areas of the law that so clear-cut that we can't even disagree with each other just for fun.

For a few purposes, such as income taxes for a cash-basis taxpayer, it matters when Brian has a right to get paid. However, for community property purposes, all that matters is when all of the activity that leads to Brian earning the money was complete -- and that was complete back when the votes were cast, as katem points out.

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41. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
>You say he has won nothing
>yet. But I disagree here.
>The votes were cast way
>back when. There is NOTHING
>he can do now. If
>he won, he won when
>the votes were cast.


This is a game (or is it?).
Is the game really over?
Is part of the game to announce the winner?
Isn't a game over when the winner is declared?
Isn't part of the game to remain silent, promote CBS shows, etc... or forfeit your prize? or be sued.

I think the game is still on until they announce the winner.
(They haven't pulled out the ping pong balls yet)

Anybody got a copy of the rules/contracts? I would think the fine print would state that this is not over until the last show.
Do they get extra money for the promos? is this considered prize money or pay?

I'm trying to think of another game to compare this to....
tape delayed football game?

Have they really voted? (imagine that!)
what if CC spilled what she knew (or made it up)? talk about revenge! Maybe CBS comes out with a new SOAP - All my Porno Stars.

Some judge can have alot of fun with this one.

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42. "RE: Brians Wife Arrested"
We had a case in California a couple of years ago where a woman won the CA lottery. (Drawn twice a week.) She filed for divorce weeks after her ticket won and never told ex-hubby about the winnings. Used a totally different address to file the winning claim. She had use of that money for almost two years after she won without him knowing.
Hubby finally gets a letter (addressed to her at her old address) from some financial planner asking if he can help her invest her winnings.
Hubby files and the judge gives him half of the winnings.
So while I can't envision the spoiler value, CC would get half of the $$ because they were married when he won the money, even if he did not know how much at the time and had not received the check.
pancho
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20. "Yes Snoochie, there is a Santa Claus!!!!!!!"
HURRAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My DREAM HAS COME TRUE!!!!!!! It's like Christmas and my birthday all rolled into one. OMH, I might need a cold shower.

PornoBrian is MINE, MINE ALL MINE!!!!! hehehehehehe MINE!

**dream sequence**

Awwwwww...my poor baby Brian come here and tell Snoochie all about that horrible, wretched woman.

Snooch, she is just awful. She punched me in my perfect nose. Not like you Snooch, you're so kind, beautiful and sexy. How could I have been so stupid to be with her when I really need is you.

Let's just forget about that nasty skank, come a little closer and let me "give some medicine"

VILIFICATION AT LAST!!!!! I LOVE YOU Q, YOU HAVE MADE MY YEAR!



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36. "RE: Yes Snoochie, there is a Santa Claus!!!!!!!"

>PornoBrian is MINE, MINE ALL MINE!!!!!
>hehehehehehe MINE!

Ummm Snooch, honey. Last I heard you were still married yourself sugar


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39. "RE: Yes Snoochie, there is a Santa Claus!!!!!!!"
Oh yeah...I kinda fogot.

*sigh* Well a fat man can still dream about desert right?????


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48. "RE: Yes Snoochie, there is a Santa Claus!!!!!!!"
Luckily I am single and available. Here Brian Brian Brian!
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27. "New Article on Yahoo"
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=799&e=1&cid=797&u=/eo/20021212/en_tv_eo/10973

Yahoo has a story on this now. More descriptive. Happy Reading.


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44. "RE: New Article on Yahoo"
Even if Charmaine goes free, it's unlikely the feuding couple will reunite. At her arraignment last month, the 30-year-old was ordered to stay at least 100 yards away from her playboy-turned-used car salesman husband and, according to court documents, may not "own, use or possess any dangerous or deadly weapons."

This is good. He has cleaned house. Hasn't he?


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47. "article on ew.com"
don't know how similar this is to what Q posted a bit earlier, but here:
http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,399603~10~0~survivorssoft-porncouplesplits,00.html

Her next court date is Dec. 16, three days before her husband learns his fate in the ''Survivor'' finale.

Now, he wouldn't need to "learn" his fate unless he was in the final 2. So this could be a spoiler. On the other hand, its possibly just saying that he is in the final show, and is really saying before WE learn his fate. Of course most of us think he'll be in the finals anyway, so its not like it says anything new...

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49. "RE: article on ew.com"
>Her next court date is Dec. 16, three days before her
>husband learns his fate in the ''Survivor'' finale.

This was yesterday. Did anybody see any news updates today? If so, do tell!

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50. "RE: article on ew.com"
Brian was a no show.

got this from fever:

Charmaine Heidik made an appearance Monday morning in a California courtroom, facing misdemeanor charges for attacking her husband last month. But at Monday's hearing, Survivor contestant Brian Heidik was a no-show.

"The people are having a little trouble finding the victim in this case, Brian Heidik," says defense attorney Fredric Gagliardini.

The case was continued until Tuesday and even if authorities can't find him, “We all know where he's going to be Thursday,” says prosecutor Richard Quinones.

Prosecutors say if they have to, they'll try to contact Heidik when he appears at CBS for the “Survivor” finale Thursday night.


Interesting... Is he having second thoughts about CC?
what do our lawyers think he is doing?

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51. "Strategy"
What is he doing? Getting a continuance, of course. Why have to talk about C.C. on CBS This Morning when you want to be talking about yourself?

Brian's appearance at the hearing probably wasn't mandatory because he probably wasn't subpoenaed to appear. Thus, it isn't like he skipped out on his OWN court date. However, he'll be subpoenaed for Tuesday, so he'll have to show up then.

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52. "RE: article on ew.com"
Suprise Brian was a no-show. Good Point guys that he can now avoid Some of this topic in post show interviews now, he can also claim he was instructed not to comment by his lawyers, etc. etc.

It makes sense to me now why the Reunion show in in Cali and not NYC this time. Also why Jiffy is hosting. They have to have it in Cali since one of the F2 is due in court, etc. etc.

Well at least we can follow this survivor story long after the show ends.


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53. "RE: article on ew.com"
Still no news on where Brian is.

The most recent news is about WHY CC punched Brian in the nose. He was 'asleep' on the couch drunk, with their baby crying, when CC came home. So she walked over and punched him in the nose LMAO. These people need serious help LOL.

Here is a copy of the article.

'Survivor' wife makes deal
By Marci Wormser
Staff Writer
LANCASTER -- The wife of "Survivor: Thailand" finalist Brian Heidik agreed Tuesday to undergo 26 counseling sessions in return for the dismissal of a spouse-abuse charge against her, officials said.

The misdemeanor charge against Charmaine Heidik, 30, will be dropped if she completes the counseling sessions and does not commit any more violations, Deputy District Attorney Richard Quinones said.

Heidik was arrested Nov. 17 at the couple's home in Quartz Hill after Brian Heidik telephoned deputies and reported that his wife had punched him in the nose, officials said.

Charmaine Heidik told deputies she got angry when she returned home from shopping and found her husband drunk and their child crying, a sheriff's report said.

Charmaine Heidik has pleaded not guilty to the charge and did not admit guilt by agreeing to the settlement, officials said. She faced a maximum sentence of one year in jail and a $1,000 fine if convicted, officials said.

Brian Heidik did not show up for court Tuesday, when trial was scheduled to begin, Quinones said.

Prosecutors have not been able to contact Brian Heidik, Quinones said. Heidik's father, who answered the door at his son's Quartz Hill home, told officials he did not know where his son was, Quinones said.

"Without him, we don't have a victim to explain what happened," Quinones said.

Charmaine Heidik did not have a prior criminal record.

She will appear in court March 3 to give a report of her progress in counseling. On June 25, the charges will be dismissed if she fulfills the requirements, Quinones said.

If Charmaine Heidik fails to fulfill the requirements, the case will go to trial, he said.

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54. "RE: article on ew.com"
Thanks for the update lionsroar.

Hearing her side of the story clears thing up a little. Its like the Ted/Ghandia thing all over again, except now we have a child involved. Maybe Brians Sexist attitude on the show was not a joke after all. Maybe he was waiting for a "woman" to come home and do the "womans work". He was obviously too busy being drunk/hung over.

Yeah MB did a bang up job casting this season.


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60. "RE: article on ew.com"
>Yeah MB did a bang up job casting this season. >

ROFL! One can only hope that next season is vastly better - could it be much worse?

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55. "RE: article on ew.com"
I know this is completely off the wall speculation but what if Brian has actually disappeared for whatever reason (he freaked out and went on the run because of the publicity, CC did get her hands on a weapon, who knows, weirder things have happened). What happens if he doesn't show up on Thursday for the live finale? Does he forfeit his winnings and the other in the F2 gets it by default?
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56. "Woman Porned--errr Scorned"
Still no news on where Brian is.

He's obviously keeping a low profile before Thursday's finale. Ask yourself this question...Where would you be if you had to make a national TV appearance (and perhaps celebrate a $1M win) 3 days after your wife is answering to assault charges? I know I'd be anywhere but at my house.

The most recent news is about WHY CC punched Brian in the nose. He was 'asleep' on the couch drunk, with their baby crying, when CC came home. So she walked over and punched him in the nose LMAO. These people need serious help LOL.

Well, that's her side of it, anyway. You can bet it's not that simple. She's obviously doing damage control, herself. The press is having a field day painting her as Tawny II. She's the one facing assault charges, and, like she did with her hubby, she's prepared to come out swinging.

Could Brian be a louse? Sure. Am I going to buy it based on the ramblings of his bitter, community-service-doin' wife who just spent 2 days in jail while Brian, seemingly, was glad to see her there? Not in this lifetime.

This is a Lifetime Movie of the Week waiting to happen...

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57. "RE: Woman Porned--errr Scorned"
LAST EDITED ON 12-18-02 AT 03:50 PM (EST)

>
>This is a Lifetime Movie of
>the Week waiting to happen...
>
>

I think you just figured out what this whole thing is about. Maybe this means he doesn't make the finals and is looking for new sources of income.

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62. "RE: Woman Porned--errr Scorned"
Could there be more to this story than what CC claims? You better believe it. Do I believe that it is possible that Brian passed out drunk while he should've been watching his baby, hell yes 100% I do. I know this isn't bashers but those 2 are a bunch of f'n losers. Only one that is going to lose in this whole 'movie of the week' is that poor kid.
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58. "Snewser's article says Brian has not been working"
I am working on my HTML skills so please be patient.

According the SNEWSER article:

The prosecutor also visited Brian Heidik’s former employer, a valley car dealership where he worked as a used-car salesman. Co-workers said they hadn’t seen him in weeks, Quinones said.

Snewser Article


This indicates to me that Brian believes he has at least $100,000 in the bag and likely believes $1,000,000 confirming what we all know that Brian is definitely in the Final 2.


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59. "RE: Snewser's article says Brian has not been working"
This is too freakin unbelieveable.

In the article it says that the Heidicks plan yo stay married. CC says something to the effect of "Brian getting all the attention, he's that way I can't figure him out that is the beauty of it" HUH? WTF does THAT mean? Also why hasn't Brian been at work and WHY is he hiding? This is public record, he's going to have to comment on it whether he wins $1M or nothing. Hiding is doing nothing but making him look suspicious. This stinks to high heaven!!!!

Furthermore it states she came home from shopping and found him sleeping and drunk on the couch when he was supposed to be watching the baby. Allegedly he "towered over her and frightened her" so she punched him. Get real! I've come home many times to find my husband sleeping on the couch and the kid left to her own devices, it happens, that is life. However I've never gone over and punched Joe in the face for falling asleep.

There is waaaaaaay more to this story peeps. Conviently CC adds that she in a Steven Segal film (oh joy...more bad acting). Guess she won't be going to Fiji if she's busy filming huh?



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61. "Maybe he's stepping back into character"
Didn't CBS make Ethan go into hiding when he had to grow his beard back for the S3 finale??

I think Brian is missing because he CAN'T be seen in the days leading up to the finale for whatever reason. A clue of how the winner will be announced??

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