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bacon 2824 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 11-30-08, 11:20 PM (EST) "Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" This is in the most recent issue of the magazine. First off, Bob Dylan at #7? I have many Dylan records, and I even enjoy his voice in all of it's awfulness, but to actually list it so high on a greatest singers list is ridiculous. If I had to make a top 5 list out of the 100 RS mentioned I would have chosen the following: 1. Marvin Gaye-You could immediately indentify his songs by that ridiculously smooth voice. 2. Jeff Buckley-Some will argue that Buckley gets all these mentions because he died young. Those people clearly didn't listen to his one and only album, "Grace". He sung like a freaking angel. 3. Roy Orbison-Orbison is well loved, but seems to fall behind Elvis Presley in every "best of" list. I'm here to tell you that he's ten times more talented, and his voice is way better than Elvis' voice could have ever hoped to be. 4. Brian/Carl Wilson-Carl didn't make the list, but both should be included. Their work on "Pet Sounds" is the stuff of legends. 5. Art Garfunkel/Paul Simon-Simon also didn't make the list, but these two created some of the prettiest melodies folk music has ever produced. Now for the actual list. Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers of the Rock Era 1. Aretha Franklin 2. Ray Charles 3. Elvis Presley 4. Sam Cooke 5. John Lennon 6. Marvin Gaye 7. Bob Dylan 8. Otis Redding 9. Stevie Wonder 10. James Brown 11. Paul McCartney 12. Little Richard 13. Roy Orbison 14. Al Green 15. Robert Plant 16. Mick Jagger 17. Tina Turner 18. Freddie Mercury 19. Bob Marley 20. Smokey Robinson 21. Johnny Cash 22. Etta James 23. David Bowie 24. Van Morrison 25. Michael Jackson 26. Jackie Wilson 27. Hank Williams 28. Janis Joplin 29. Nina Simone 30. Prince 31. Howlin' Wolf 32. Bono 33. Steve Winwood 34. Whitney Houston 35. Dusty Springfield 36. Bruce Springsteen 37. Neil Young 38. Elton John 39. Jeff Buckley 40. Curtis Mayfield 41. Chuck Berry 42. Joni Mitchell 43. George Jones 44. Bobby "Blue" Bland 45. Kurt Cobain 46. Patsy Cline 47. Jim Morrison 48. Buddy Holly 49. Donny Hathaway 50. Bonnie Raitt 51. Gladys Knight 52. Brian Wilson 53. Muddy Waters 54. Luther Vandross 55. Paul Rodgers 56. Mavis Staples 57. Eric Bourdon 58. Christina Aguilera 59. Rod Stewart 60. Bjork 61. Roger Daltrey 62. Lou Reed 63. Dion 64. Axl Rose 65. David Ruffin 66. Thom Yorke 67. Jerry Lee Lewis 68. Wilson Pickett 69. Ronnie Spector 70. Gregg Allman 71. Toots Hibbert 72. John Fogerty 73. Dolly Parton 74. James Taylor 75. Iggy Pop 76. Steve Perry 77. Merle Haggard 78. Sly Stone 79. Mariah Carey 80. Frankie Valli 81. John Lee Hooker 82. Tom Waits 83. Patti Smith 84. Darlene Love 85. Sam Moore 86. Art Garfunkel 87. Don Henley 88. Willie Nelson 89. Solomon Burke 90. The Everly Brothers 91. Levon Helm 92. Morrissey 93. Annie Lennox 94. Karen Carpenter 95. Patti Labelle 96. B.B. King 97. Joe Cocker 98. Stevie Nicks 99. Steven Tyler 100. Mary J. Blige   Top

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kidflash212 5051 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-30-08, 11:42 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" LAST EDITED ON 11-30-08 AT 11:43 PM (EST) Lots of problems with this list - Prince higher than Gladys Knight (or even Whitney Houston)? John Lennon's placing seems very high. I admit I'm not a fan and always found him overrated but I think even his fans would say many others below him were far better vocally. David Bowie even making the list discredits the whole thing for me. And just where is Luther Vandross? He had an amazing voice - defintely should make top ten. ETA - 54th. Come on.   Top

MKitty 2976 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 12-02-08, 01:19 PM (EST) 29. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" Okay, smackdown with Kidflash and Kitty!! Don't be dissin' my Dave! Bowie has one of the most incredible unique voices in the world...and if Dylan and Waits are on this list..they are obviously going for "unique" over clear, etc.. Otherwise, Celine Dion would be on this list. Celine's voice could shatter glass with its strength and clarity..and I don't even like her music!! (but I have to give out kudos for the strength of her voice) Seasonal CATastic courtesy of Agman!   Top

Starshine 5033 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-02-08, 04:44 PM (EST) 31. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" I agree with you. Jimbo makes the point below about how Bono uses his voice as an instrument in some U2 songs. Well Bowie writes songs that fit his voice perfectly, I cannot imagine anyone else singing Diamond Dogs, Ashes to Ashes or Golden Years, so one has to say that as a singer he has the perfect voice for those songs. Although I have to admit Bauhaus do a much better version of Ziggy Stardust   Top

Max Headroom 10069 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-01-08, 08:00 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" Sam Cooke at #4? I've never even heard of him, and I listen to a broad variety of music. Robert Plant at #15? I like Led Zeppelin, but that seems awfully high for him. David Bowie at #23? Come on, is this a joke? Morrissey at #92? Nope, not buying it. He's better. Headbanger by IceCat, siggie by agman   Top

Starshine 5033 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-01-08, 08:40 AM (EST) 3. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" LAST EDITED ON 12-01-08 AT 08:45 AM (EST) Sam Cooke http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2KTFoMJi3uE Lvoe his voice, and wiki says http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Cooke Annie Lennox is only 93? No way! No Dr.John at all???? Oh and is 63 Celine Dion or Dion and the Belmonts?   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-01-08, 01:13 PM (EST) 15. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" LAST EDITED ON 12-01-08 AT 01:14 PM (EST) Sam Cooke -- "Chain Gang"? "You Send Me"? "Cupid"? You must have heard something by him at some point. I would rank Sam Cooke # 1 based on technical ability, expressiveness, musicality and versatility. Yes, I do think he's better than Aretha. But then this isn't really a list of Greatest Singers. It's a list of Favorite Solo Artists. Surfkitten Summer Sigshop 2008   Top

kingfish 20752 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-01-08, 08:43 AM (EST) 4. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" Dylan easily belongs in the top ten, unless one believes that a great singer has to have a trained voice and pure dulcet tones. But where is Louis Armstrong? And Joe Cocker is at the bottom of the list? Roy Orbison does deserve a higher spot. Stevie Nicks at the bottom too? Patsy Cline at 46? Arguably the best singer of all time? Michael Jackson is rated along with Van Morrison and Jackie Wilson? Blasphemy! Not having Joplin in the top ten is not believable. Levon Helm (near the bottom) is one of my favorites, as is Mavis Staples. She used to be (Still is?) with the Staples Singers along with her sister and 'Pops' Staples, and they could sing the whey out of a song. They are/were a Gospel group although they sang a lot of mainstream songs, and it was almost a religious experience (even for a heathen like me) to listen to them. Max, you’ve heard Sam Cooke's songs; I expect you just don't associate his name with them. Some of his songs are have become standards, "You Send Me" and "Bring it on Home to Me" used to permeate the airwaves. And they are very nice, his vocals are special. On what criteria was this list was based? If it's just the editor’s opinion, they shouldn't publish it. Everyone would have a different list and it's just non-information to publish anyone of our lists as "The Best".   Top

Starshine 5033 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-01-08, 09:04 AM (EST) 5. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" Seems to be a "Pop and Rock" list, hence no Louis Armstrong, believe me if it were a "Best singer who has had a chart hit" list I would be up with you. Oh and of course Ella Fitzgerald would be fighting it out for the number one spot.   Top

Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-01-08, 09:21 AM (EST) 6. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" "On what criteria was this list was based? If it's just the editor’s opinion, they shouldn't publish it. Everyone would have a different list and it's just non-information to publish anyone of our lists as "The Best"." Usually there is some sort of panel that does it *googles* http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/24161972/page/101 Rolling Stone asked artists, journalist and industry insiders. The ballots were weighted and tabulated by Ernst and Young. So it isn't just one editor (or the editorial board) of the magazine. Even if it is they can, IMO, compile and print a list that is their own opinion. No list like this is every some objective reality. Whether they state it or not I always know it is the subjective opinion of who they used to make the list. I mean you could say no one should ever rank anything subjective, but as long as they don't say it is the truth and you have to agree with it or else, I don't see the harm. 2005 Holiday Sig Shop. I've been Nutzed!   Top

kingfish 20752 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-01-08, 10:17 AM (EST) 10. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" LAST EDITED ON 12-01-08 AT 10:18 AM (EST) I don't vehemently disagree. I just sort of mildly disagree. Your points are valid. Opinions are published all the time, and no harm, some are even useful. And a "who is the best singer of all time" list has to be somewhat subjective. But this is Rolling Stone, and an otherwise dismissible list acquires a certain cachet by being in Rolling Stone which I think it doesn’t deserve even given the input mentioned. Now, and forever more, any artist on the list will be able to make the claim that they are better than a bunch of other artists 'according to Rolling Stone', when it maybe just a matter of style, or genre, or how old their music is, or who the judges are familiar with that sets them apart. Ranking them using subjective criteria (even compiled and audited criteria – Ernst and Young? Please!) could be looked on as a mild form of insult to the artists and to the artist’s fans. The ‘glass is half empty’ fans, anyway. Oh well, they thought it was important to present a ranking, and they and others do it all the time. I don't favor the practice, but so be it.   Top

Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-01-08, 09:45 AM (EST) 7. "Another country heard from." I checked with Simon. He said they're all atrocious and refused to welcome any of them to Hollywood.   Top

kingfish 20752 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-01-08, 09:50 AM (EST) 8. "RE: Another country heard from." Did Alvin and Theodore concur? I would expect them to agree with you, seeing as how they too were left off the list. Beware jealous chipmunks, unless you want to risk serious ankle bites and pierced eardrums.   Top

Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-01-08, 04:01 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Another country heard from." Which is also what you tend to get from angry American Idol contestants -- none of whom made the list.   Top

KeithFan 7422 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-01-08, 09:56 AM (EST) 9. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" A couple of people that were left off that should be on anyone's list: Ruth Brown Bruce Dickinson Annie Wilson Here's a page that I like to refer to: http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/music0.html   Top

Tahj 4136 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 12-01-08, 12:21 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" LAST EDITED ON 12-01-08 AT 12:22 PM (EST) I like your website Keithfan. Thanks. The RS list left off Linda Ronstadt, which is ridiculous. They also left off Barbra Streisand, even though I'm not a fan. She should be included on a list like this, though. Edited to add: And Bette Midler! What about Bette!! It's a Tribe!   Top

dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-01-08, 12:24 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" And Debby Harry, don't forget Debby Harry. Let's all say it together, Debby Harry! And Meat Loaf.   Top

byoffer 15947 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-01-08, 01:41 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" I would certainly agree with your suggestion of Meatloaf.   Top

cahaya 19891 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-01-08, 12:47 PM (EST) 14. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" I'll second the thanks for the link. There are some good guitarists/bassists/bands lists in there. Although I don't often agree with the ordering, I'm finding out what else I've been missing that might be worth checking out. Smurfy snowy holiday present by agman   Top

KeithFan 7422 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-01-08, 01:30 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" I don't always agree with them either. After about #5 you can take #6-20, jumble them up, and have legitimate arguments for the order on most of the lists. As it has been mentioned, it's very subjective; but it's so in depth and categorized that anyone not listed probably doesn't deserve to be there anyway.   Top

Tahj 4136 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 12-01-08, 12:30 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" Also, only 24 of the hundred are women. Nope, not biased at all. It's a Tribe!   Top

whimsey 4411 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 12-01-08, 03:03 PM (EST) 20. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" Good catch, Tahj. Well done.   Top

Gothmog 2886 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 12-01-08, 02:34 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" I'd love to see the criteria. And then meet the person who provided the drugs for whomever came up with this bogus list. Because that must have been some serious shit. Dylan doesn't belong on it. At. All. He belongs in the Hall of Fame as a songwriter. But he can't sing. His voice is cacophanous, grating and out of tune. On his better days. There are so many people on this list who have minimal talent as singers. Don't get me wrong; they're great musicians and song-writers. But they clearly are not capable singers. I wonder if the compilers were looking for distinctive voices, rather than necessarily talent. Kurt Cobain had a distinctive voice, but he screeched more than he sang. Mariah Carey is in another category: she can sing, but she substitutes technical tricks for heart. Doesn't belong on this list, either. Some glaring omissions: *Bobby McFerrin. Ok, technically, not a "rock singer" but he did have mainstream exposure, and his voice is an instrument of unequaled proportions. *I'll second whoever mentioned Annie Wilson. *Bradley Delp of Boston should be in the top 10: truly an amazing voice that is often hard to distinguish from a guitar in their songs. *Ian Gillan from Deep Purple and Black Sabbath (and the original Broadway recording of Jesus Christ Superstar) could sing rings around half this list. *And speaking of JCS, I recently saw Sebastian Bach pull off an amazing performance. Dude can flat-out kiss the sky with his voice. *Amy Lee. *Kate Pierson *Tommy Shaw And, no disrespect for Aretha Franklin, who is indeed very talented, but #1 should be Freddy Mercury. Again, I'd want to see the criteria.   Top

Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-01-08, 02:41 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" Here is the link I posted above http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/24161972/page/101 It has the list of people. They asked each of them for their top 20 and then weighted the results and made the list of 100. If they did it the usual way being #1 on several people's list counts more than being on more lists but at #20 for most of them. Funny how several of the people that are mentioned that should be on the list are actually people who were asked to make the list. I dunno if that effected being on the list or not. I assume that the list is an accurate reflection of what the people asked to provide their top 20 provided. You can look at the list and see if you think those people have any business judging singers. I do agree some people are on the list more because their music was influential in some way or they wrote good music rather than they had talented voices.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-01-08, 03:57 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" LAST EDITED ON 12-01-08 AT 04:00 PM (EST) I assume that the list is an accurate reflection of what the people asked to provide their top 20 provided. It probably is, but the thing is, they weren't asked to consider singing abilty. They were asked to name their 20 favorite vocalists from the rock era. You can like a performer despite the fact that he/she doesn't sing well, e.g. a Bob Dylan -- you like them for other reasons. So calling this a list of the 100 Greatest Singers really does not reflect what the people were asked to vote for. That is why the list is idiotic.   Top

geg6 14941 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-02-08, 08:39 AM (EST) 23. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" Well, if singing ability wasn't one of the main criteria (which seems likely if this list is to be believed), then that explains how ridiculous this list is. For one, no way should Etta James and Billie Holiday not be on a list of the 100 Greatest Singers. Hands down, no question in my mind, these two should be #1 and #2 on any list of greatest singers. And any list that doesn't include them in the top 5 is a list that means nothing. As you, BR, and many others here know, I am a John Lennon worshipper. That said, he's one of the greatest songwriters of all time (with or without McCartney, who, incidentally, is a much better singer), but would not even make my top 50 as a singer. I'd have Dylan as #1 on the songwriter list (with Lennon a close #2) but he, too, is an abomination on this list. Don't mistake me, I adore Dylan but he can't sing, even in the most primitive, untrained way. I've got plenty of his music in my collection and seen him several times (both when he was "on" and when he was "off") and I know of what I speak. And those who are bashing Bowie's inclusion? Have no idea what they are talking about. The man has range, control, and a distinctive sound. Experience a wide range of his work and not just what is played on the radio and you will know that. This list has some really great names (in mostly weird placements), but is obviously limited. "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony   Top

KeithFan 7422 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-02-08, 09:15 AM (EST) 25. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" I think way too many votes went to "performers" rather than singers, and people voted on what the music meant to them rather than the technical aspect.   Top

kingfish 20752 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-02-08, 09:12 AM (EST) 24. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" The thing is, it isn't hard to find people who are technically great singers. Every local music festival (I go to a number of bluegrass festivals a year) features a dozen or more, every choir has a number, every town has a few local bands with technically great vocalists. I would not be surprised in the least to find technically proficient vocalists among the people on these boards. I myself receive standing ovations from everyone within earshop whenever I launch into one of my operatic arias in the shower. Move over Parvotti! Which brings to mind the observation, if this were a rating list of technically proficient singers, operatic and stage talents would dominate the list. Great singers, and this is admittedly just my opinion, are not necessarily tone perfect, with three octave voices, and with perfect vocal and tempo control. For my money it's the vocalist who can impart rare feelings, emotions, and artistic displays. And being a great songwriter adds to this to the point where I think it's really rare to be considered a great singer if you aren't a great song writer. Presley and Holliday (and yeah, where is Holliday?) would be two exceptions, and there are more. I don't know if Tom Jones ever wrote a song, but man, can he render one. So, for me, Dylan is at the top of the ladder, along with Louis Armstrong, Joe Cocker, Lou Reed, Leonard Cohen (really? Cohen isn't on the list? All of Canada, yea, the whole free world, should picket Rolling Stone for this). Tom Jones? this guy is probably the greatest pop/whatever genre vocalist alive, where is he? Paul McCartney had a prettier, more universally acceptable voice than Lennon, but Lennon's songs and his singing had so much more depth. The man could render beautiful music. His last album, released just before he was shot, is especially nice.   Top

Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-02-08, 09:21 AM (EST) 26. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" Ah, that pretty much sums up all the arguments on AI, DWTS, SYTYCD, etc. Do you chose "best" based only on technical proficiency, or the ability of someone to express emotions and really touch you with the performance. It does seems rare when one is extremely good at both. Especially as really throwing oneself into the performance may mean you can't spend a lot of time analyzing every second of what you are doing to make sure it hits all the specs any given person considers important. Conversely spending every moment thinking about how you are doing something doesn't always let you connect to the emotion of the piece. A technically perfect performance can a lot of the time leave me feeling a bit cold. I hear the beauty, but it doesn't make me feel anything. Now there are lots of people (as the AI auditions coming up will adequately demonstrate) that have plenty of passion but can't stay on pitch at all. *starts training fingers for rapid fire mute button pushing*   Top

geg6 14941 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-02-08, 10:20 AM (EST) 27. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" Singers, great singers, have both technical virtuosity and emotional heft. Thus, there are only a few really, really great opera singers and many more in more accessible musical genres. Jazz is one area in which there are many with both, thus my picks of Etta James and Billie Holiday. "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony   Top

J I M B O 6839 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-02-08, 12:18 PM (EST) 28. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" Great singers, and this is admittedly just my opinion, are not necessarily tone perfect, with three octave voices, and with perfect vocal and tempo control. For my money it's the vocalist who can impart rare feelings, emotions, and artistic displays. It wasn't until I saw U2 in concert that I really understood what it is to use one's voice as an instrument. While I admit I'm pretty ignorant on a lot of music knowledge, I'd think Bono should be at least top 20.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-02-08, 04:31 PM (EST) 30. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" and yeah, where is Holliday?) I assume Billie Holiday did not get on there because "Each voter was asked to list his or her 20 favorite vocalists from the rock era, in order of their importance." Because, according to Rolling Stone, THE ROCK ERA equals ALL TIME.   Top

bondt007 3413 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 12-02-08, 05:38 PM (EST) 32. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" James Taylor at #74 and Bruce Springsteen at #36? Plant and Mercury not in the top 10? No Donald Fagen and Billy Joel? ...what a rag!   Top

J Slice 13166 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-02-08, 05:49 PM (EST) 33. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" LAST EDITED ON 12-02-08 AT 05:50 PM (EST) I love, love, love Fagen. His voice is definitely a unique one, but my love for Steely Dan is... well, everything. The musicians are so perfectly picked, everything is wonderfully clean (yes, I know they are totally a studio band), and the lyrics? Incredible. Where, oh where, is Michael McDonald on that list? One can say what they might of his music (I know that there are a lot of people who are ticked off with what he did with the Doobie Brothers), but his voice is nothing short of amazing. Saw him in concert with the Dan a couple years ago, and he absolutely blew me away. Did a hell of a vocal job on "Do It Again", too. I do it all the different ways.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-02-08, 05:59 PM (EST) 34. "RE: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers" I was rather surprised that Billy Joel is nowhere on the list, not even in the bottom 10. Also Chaka Khan. Ronnie Spector makes the cut but not Chaka? Puh-leeze. While I'm a huge Steely Dan fan I'm not sure I'd have included Donald Fagen myself.   Top

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