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LAST EDITED ON 08-15-02 AT 11:20 AM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 08-15-02 AT 11:16 AM (EST) LAST EDITED ON 08-15-02 AT 11:14 AM (EST) Looks like the buffs will be Purple and red/orange? 
If these are taken before a merge, then these two are NOT on the same starting team.
another purple buff
possible boy buff 
Would they possibly make and all girls and all guy team???? If they do the challanges right then they would have equal chances of winning. Thoughts? Cin 
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3. "Buff in first photo?" |
I don't see a buff in the first photo. If you are looking at the reddish orange thing on the pole in front of the guy in the cave, it is not a buff, it is an oriental mask. Looks kind of like a devil or something.
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23. "RE: Buff in first photo?" |
I am still puzzled over this and can't help but feel that the thing is a mask. If it isn't, then it has the most conveniently placed patterns and lumps since the man-in-the-moon.Easily visible is one horn, one eye, a lump of a nose, hideous mouth, and an angular chin. As I see it, the "mouth" could be a survivor logo, but I don't think the "eye" could be one since it is pretty small compared to the other logos we are seeing. In the final analysis, I doubt if it has any spoiler value as a mask, but since we are at the beginning of our speculation, it is something to look at...I guess I am starting to get into the spirit of spoiling agian!!!
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6. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
I'm finding lots of pictures with just boys together and lots of pictures with just girls together. I am gonna go with my initial theroy that it's boys against girls till I can find a man in a damn purple buff. Check out all these pics
http://survivorfever.net/vc-es-8-15.html
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7. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
If anyone wants to try to find clues in the video from The Early Show, here's the link.http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/earlyshow/main500202.shtml What I found interesting were the introductions. Jeff's voice-over is clearly different for Robb the bartender. Was it spliced in later??? Tumbler
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8. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
I noticed the same thing....girls in purple, boys in red...but some pics don't show any buffs at all. Do you think they had their first challenge to determine teams? (I do) I also think they didn't show pics of everyone intentionally to make it appear that it was going to be the battle of the sexes.....I don't think it will truly be men on one team and women on the other. If it is....I suspect the women will win!!!!!
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10. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
I agree with you smrtNsassybnkr, in that, I think the division of sexes with the buffs was done intentionally. I watched the Early Show clip several times (link above) and was only able to confirm four men wearing red/orange and four women wearing purple.red/orange buffs - Brian, Clay, John, and Ted.
purple buffs - Erin, Stephanie, Shi Ann, and Penny. I think we will have two tribes as usual. How they are determined, should be interesting. Tumbler
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12. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
You can also see that Jed and John are in the same team:
and if that doesn't convinve you, I think that Jed is in the same team as Clay (he's playin golf in this vidcap, he's the one with his back turned): 
If it's not Jed, then it's Robb. I don't think any other Survivor has the maleness or hairstyle to be the Mystery Golfer with His Back Turned. But anyway, this gives us 5 males on the same team...
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15. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
>I agree with you smrtNsassybnkr, in that, I think the division
>of sexes with the buffs was done intentionally. I watched
>the Early Show clip several times (link above) and was
>only able to confirm four men wearing red/orange and four
>women wearing purple.
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>red/orange buffs - Brian, Clay, John,
>and Ted.
>purple buffs - Erin, Stephanie, Shi
>Ann, and Penny.
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>I think we will have two tribes as usual. How they
>are determined, should be interesting. Who's John, do you mean Jake??? ...we have footage of Jeb talking with Jake and we have footage of Clay, Ted, and another guy playing golf. If you say you saw Brian, Clay, Jake, and Ted with red buffs, and we have a photo of Jeb and Jake, then that seem to put Brian, Clay, Jake, Ted, and Jeb in the same tribe. -SB
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22. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
Woops, for some reason I was thinging that guy's first name was Pastor and that there was no John this season. That said -- another damn John?!?!? Geez... well, I guess it's better than the alternative of having a Paschal one season and a Pastor the next...Ok, so we have: - John, Brian, Clay and Ted and with red buffs
- Jeb talking with Jake
- Clay, Ted, and another guy playing golf Has anyone seen Ken or Robb??? -SB
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19. "RE: off topic a sec ;)" |
Not on the internet, on the radio. 87.7 FM in Richmond, Virginia. I think it was on during Young & the Restless or Bold & the Beautiful -- I had to go into a meeting at 2 and it was before then.
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46. "RE: Division of Teams -- CBS Commercial" |
>Okay, I listen to the soaps
>on the radio on the
>CBS station and today there
>was a commercial for Survivor.
> In the commercial, Jeff
>makes a statement to the
>extent of: "Ladies on
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>left." I'm not sure
>of the exact quote, Here's the sounds: http://www.bigbrothercentral.com/s5promo1.rm There's vidcaps floatign around as well -- basically it looks like they paddle big boats to shore SPLIT INTO mixed gender 4/4 GROUPS, but then when they get to shore Jiffy has they separate into Men/Women. It's unclear what happens after that -- random buff selection, etc. but the paddle ashore to the same place and then SOMETHING happens, likely some type of swap -SB
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17. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
If there's one thing I've learned from trying to spoil this show, it's that what you see is usually what you get. In other words, the simplest explaination is usually the most accurate. From what I see in these pictures, it seems clear to me that we have a team of men and a team of women. Good catch Cin.Add that speculation with the knowledge that there are all NEW challenges, and it seems pretty likely that the twist to start the game is the makeup of the teams. What could be more different than dividing the teams by sex? And who knows, it may not stay that way for too long, since MB can employ the old switcheroo at any point in the game. Hmmm, should make the early going quite interesting.
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21. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-15-02 AT 03:51 PM (EST)I agree, a men versus women start wouldn't be that big a deal -- think about it, so you start men versus women, do three non-physical challenges, then you bring out The Switch after Episode 3 and things are mixed up and back to "normal." ...that still leaves another 9 days before the merge for male/female alliances to build and 30 days for flirting, etc. It's an interesting new take on the game -- for example, what would S4's Sarah's initial strategy have been in a All Female tribe??? Will the bond of sisterhood or brotherhood prove more enduring after the switch than S4's arbitary bond of tribal circumstances did??? All and I I'm not crazy about the idea, but I can envision why Burnett would try it, it's a whole new type of mindf*ck -- a Burnett speciality. -SB
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24. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
Once again, I have to say, that I think the REAL key is the people we are NOT seeing with buffs......Jed, Robb, Ken, Jake, Ghandia,Helen, Jan, and Tayna. By the way, John is the "pastor" If, in fact, Brian, Ted, Clay and John are on the same team, it would make sense for them NOT to show the others with their buffs....same for the girls. We COULD still have both sexes on each team, but they are alluding to the idea of having same sex teams. I'll be watching for clues!! If anyone has additional info....please add your two cents!
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25. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
I just read that Jan was seen riding on Robb's skateboard, and it looks like Pastor John has a purple buff in his back pocket while building a shelter. You can see these pics in the Survivor Fanatic forum......So much for Boys against Girls!
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26. "Fair challenges?" |
Hey Webby,What kinds of challenges (maybe some you have seen on past Survivors or other reality shows) would you say would be completely fair to both sexes? I think one would be hard-pressed to find one that doesn't favor one gender over the other. I like the idea of same sex teams. It would certainly be a new dynamic, one that wouldn't work for the entire game, but for the first 9-12 days it could be interesting. As for S4's Sarah, her boobs wouldn't have impressed the other 7 women of S4, and they would have tossed her out to sea to float at their first TC. bebe 
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29. "RE: Fair challenges?" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-15-02 AT 04:55 PM (EST)
>Hey Webby,
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>What kinds of challenges (maybe some you have seen on past
>Survivors or other reality shows) would you say would be
>completely fair to both sexes? I think one would
>be hard-pressed to find one that doesn't favor one gender
>over the other.
Well, a purple rock always works  Seriously, off the top of my head I'd say previous tribal challenges such as the "Tapestry Weave," and "Coconut Maze Race," "Distress Signal," and even the "Human Maze Race" tribal immunity challenges from S4 would fit And then of course there's always the "gross food" classic! That's 5 right there -- and S4 had all those as the tribal IC's for episodes 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 so it's not like non-physical tribal immunity challenges would exactly be like changing the rules. ...the only "unspoken rule" is the the Ep1 IC is usually very physical. But based on the above this might all be mute now... -SB
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62. "RE: Fair challenges?" |
I'd add to the list, quizzes about nature and different baord game concepts usually reserved for the last few episodes
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27. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
If you go to the CBS.com website they survivors are seperated per sex. Women introduced on the top row, men on the bottom row. In the past if the survivors were on the same tribe, then they were listed together as a tribe. Showing this on the website is a confirmation in my eyes that there is a battle of the sexes for the first part.
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34. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
when they were introduced on The CBS Morning show, they did so in alphabetical order. A forst time for that.
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31. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
By the WayGood Catch. I taped the early show, but I am at work, so I haven't seen it yet. at www.SurvivorThailand.com you can watch a lengthy slide show...perhaps this will help. I don't think anyone has seen a buff on Ken or Robb... By the way...CIN if you are out there, look at the subject "Sooner or Later Boys are with Girls" this may give us additional info. That subject is here in the Survivor Spoilers forum. I am not too computer savvy and I don't know how to list the link...sorry!
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36. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
Cin, I'd love to take the credit, but the purple buff was pointed out by someone else, not me. I'm certainly happy to pass on any info though....Happy spoiling!
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35. "More buff vidcaps" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-15-02 AT 05:27 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 08-15-02 AT 05:26 PM (EST) More to come... DEFINITIVE BUFFS
Brian... RED -- with lots of stubble. ...a post-TC1 image???
Penny... PURPLE
Erin... PURPLE
Shii Ann... PURPLE
Stephanie... PURPLE
INCONCLUSIVE BUFFS
Helen... PURPLE???
Jan... RED???
Clay.. RED???
Ted... RED???
John... RED??
CASTAWAY INTERACTION
Ted, Clay, and Brian
Ken and Jake
Jed and Jake
Shii Ann, Erin, and Stephanie
Erin and Penny
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37. "RE: More buff vidcaps" |
Cool, I see the stubble on brian, perhaps they ARE split by sex initially, and then intermixed after Tribal Council 1? I imagine we will be guessing until Sept 19!!!
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41. "RE: Un-ID'd vidcaps" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-15-02 AT 05:53 PM (EST)SB, In the first pic, from left to right, is Erin, Penny, and Shi Ann. (90% sure)
The second pic is definitely Erin. (100% sure) Tumbler Edited to add: In the "Sooner or later boys are with girls" thread, could they (Ken and Stephanie) be on top of the structure that is in your pic 1 (above)? If so, it's no raft.
Sorry, I don't know how to move the pictures to this thread. Tumbler
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51. "RE: Un-ID'd vidcaps" |
I just saw another clip and it's clear the woman in the black pants is Ghandia.
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69. "RE: Un-ID'd vidcaps" |
>personally, i think that's Erin, Jan, and PennyNo offense intended to Ghandia, but there's no way that's Erin's body, look at the two body types. Besides, as I mentioned before, you can't see it in the above vidcap. but when the scene plays live on TV you can see a split sec of blond tips in the hair. Also, as someone else pointed out, the polka dot is now clearly Tanya. 
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38. "Buff status" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-15-02 AT 06:05 PM (EST)
CURRENT CONCLUSIONSOK, then based on the above, we can definitely say: RED TRIBE:
Brian PURPLE TRIBE:
Penny, Erin, Shii, Stephanie SHOWN TOGETHER: Ted, Clay, and Brian
Ken and Jake
Jed and Jake
Shii, Erin, and Stephanie
Erin and Penny CURRENT CONCLUSIONS: GROUP A: Ted, Clay, Brian
GROUP B: Ken, Jake, Jed
GROUP C: Shii, Erin, Stephanie, Penny
- This means if ONE MORE GIRL out of the four remaining of Jan, Helen, Tanya, or Ghandia is seen with a PURPLE buff then we'd have a fifth girl the PURPLE TRIBE
- Currently we have INCONCLUSIVE images of Helen in PURPLE... but also of Jan in RED??? Possiblities: A) That's not a buff Jan is wearing, but a scrunchy (girls, how the hell do you spell those things??!?!), B) Helen's image is not PURPLE, C) that's not Jan. I believe Helen's buff is clearly PURPLE -- and having gotten one of these buffs myself at the S4 Live Finale, I think that thing in Jan's hair is way small to be a buff, they don't get that small. - Currently we have INCONCLUSIVE images of Clay, Ted, and John in RED. If this holds true, then we can add JOHN to "Group A" making "Group A" contain Clay, Ted, John, and Brian. This would mean if the tribes ARE NOT male/female, that ROBB would join Ken, Jake, and Jed in "Group B" - IF YOU BELIEVE HELEN'S BUFF IS PURPLE, THEN WE HAVE AT MINIMUM A FIVE FEMALE TRIBE. If you also don't believe that's Jan in a RED buff, then there is zero evidence of an women in the RED tribe with: A) FIVE women accounted for in PURPLE, FOUR men accounted for in RED, and the other 3 remaining women and 4 men unknown. This would create a scenario where either the tribes are "unbalanced" such as after in after S4's Switch, or a scenario where the tribes are split along sex, but there's no possiblity of a 4/4 even split if you believe that is a PURPLE buff that Helen is wearing (unless Burnett threw in some post-Switch images just to totally screw us up!)
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52. "RE: Buff status" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-15-02 AT 09:02 PM (EST)In light of the partial ID of the image in this URL: http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/2924.shtml#51 We can now add Group D -- Ghandia, Jan, and Mystery Polka Dot Girl. That brings us to: GROUP A: Ted, Clay, Brian
GROUP B: Ken, Jake, Jed
GROUP C: Shii, Erin, Stephanie, Penny
GROUP D: Ghandia, Jan, and Mystery Polka Dot Girl If you believe Helen is wearing a PURPLE buff ( and therefore part of Group C) then Polka Girl would likely have to be Tanya??? (assuming these images are all from the same time period) -SB
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56. "Ghandia is purple???" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-16-02 AT 10:34 AM (EST)I saw the following promo five minutes into CSI last evening -- and even taped it and vidcap'd it myself in case we needed caps -- but it wasn't until just now that I noticed the below (unfortunately my CBS station on my cable syystem seems to get interference from an over-the-air signal, so the quality of my CBS vidcaps aren't the best and I didn't notice the buff in my vidcaps) Is that a PURPLE buff? 
If so, combined with the below image, that would seem to put Group D's Ghandia, Jan, and Mystery Polka Dot Girl in the same PURPLE tribe as Group C's Shii, Erin, Stephanie, and Penny 
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39. "RE: More buff vidcaps" |
Based on this info and the 2 pics of the "raft" under construction that link Ken and Stephanie, and allowing for the possibility that some sort of swap occurs in E1, we're looking at the following:Purple Tribe:
Jake
Ken
Jed
Erin
Shii Ann
Stephanie
Penny Red Tribe:
Brian
Clay
Ted
John
Jan Not linked to either:
Robb
Ghandia
Helen
Tanya If they maintain the traditional 4 men, 4 women per tribe at the outset then Robb must be in the Purple Tribe and Ghandia, Helen, and Tanya in Red. Of course, that may not be the case.  Fester
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44. "RE: More buff vidcaps" |
>Based on this info and the
>2 pics of the "raft"
>under construction that link Ken
>and Stephanie, and allowing for
>the possibility that some sort
>of swap occurs in E1, If there's a swap, how do you know that both photos were taken either BEFORE or AFTER the swap??? (the raft or hut thing seems to show progress betweeen the photos) ...what if the photo of Ken is AFTER the swap and the photo of STEPHANIE is before the swap? ...and how about if the SWAP is that they SWAP CAMPS after Day One? (that sneaky Burnett) -SB
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45. "RE: More buff vidcaps" |
...and how about if the SWAP is that they SWAP CAMPS after Day One? (that sneaky Burnett)SB, Swapping camps after day one would be priceless! Thanks! Now I will be hoping that this happens...hehe. That would have been great for Africa. Tumbler
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42. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
if you go to www.survivorfever.net you will see the following conclusions:Purple tribe: Erin, Helen, Penny, Shii Ann, Stephanie, Jake, and Ken Red tribe: Ghandia, Jan, Brian, Clay, Jed, "Pastor" John, and Ted The only two who havent been associated with a colored buff, or tribe are Tanya and Robb My guess is that Robb is on Purple and Tanya on Red, just because of the sex factor. Purple is mostly women, and red, mostly men.....
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43. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
I'd like to see some explanation of the reasonong behind these conclusions
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47. "SOOK-JAI tribe is purple" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-15-02 AT 08:14 PM (EST)
I believe this is KEN..
and this is ROB with I believe HELEN (thats NELEH backwards..)in a red buff,(and clashing with her navy fatigues...ack)
Thanks to survivorfever.net edited to add...
Could you not conclude that with Ken on Sook-Jai (purple) and seen with Jake and Jake seen with Jed, that these 3 are on the same team?
KEN JAKE JED are Sook-Jai ROBB HELEN BRIAN are red team
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58. "RE: SOOK-JAI tribe is purple" |
uhm.... lost soul.. think ya got the wrong person there. The top pic is unmistakenly Ted, but the bottom pic isnt Jake. It is JAN, she wears the denim overall shorts (a big fashion mistake in my mind).
Just realized the similarity in names on this show, make it somewhat confusing. Ken, Jan, Jed, Ted, Jake, John, lets hope this isnt our F6.
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings
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08-23-02, 03:55 PM (EST)
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64. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
zzz, I do think it would be a neat twist if the initital tribes were all women and all men, the "men on one side, women on the other side" scene could relate to the initial tribal selection process in a different way. It could be something like there are eight disks for the women to randomly stand on, eight disks for the men to randomly stand on, four red and four purple buffs for each gender.
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08-23-02, 04:17 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: Buffs and teams" |
Rumor has it, that they are split men vs women, they paddle in those long boats to the island where they choose a pole that is stuck in the sand, Each pole has a bag containing a buff, thus determining teams. The teams seem to be split as follows:Purple: Shii Ann, Penny, Erin, Stephanie, John, Ken, Jed & Jake Red: Brian, Ted, Clay, Robb, Jan, Ghandia, Helen and Tanya
Again, this is speculation from what has been released! Most have been confirmed with still shots of the video releases thus far.....
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