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"Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
I saw this asked after S-II, so I'll ask it here:

What was your best spoiling moment of Survivor IV? And what was your worst moment?

Also, please elaborate on what new things, if anything, you learned about spoiling Survivor during the S4 series.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Not a lot of good moments, mostly b... JeffGator 05-30-02 1
 RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... jkokoj 05-31-02 2
   WORST=KATHY BaquaR13 06-08-02 18
 RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... Bebo 05-31-02 3
   RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... Survivor Freak 1987 05-31-02 5
       RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... Bebo 06-04-02 8
 RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... Survivor Freak 1987 05-31-02 4
 RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... Swami 06-03-02 6
 RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... SurvivinDawg 06-04-02 7
   RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... dabo 06-04-02 9
 RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... mistofleas 06-04-02 10
 RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... MakeItStop 06-04-02 11
 RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... samboohoo 06-04-02 12
   RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... Kokoro 06-04-02 13
       RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... ivoryElephant 06-04-02 14
           RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... Kokoro 06-04-02 16
 RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... janisella 06-04-02 15
 RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... s_man 06-06-02 17
 RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... ShowMeTheWinner 06-08-02 19
 RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... MattyMax 06-10-02 20
 RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... NightScribe 06-10-02 21
   RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling... Bebo 06-11-02 22

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05-30-02, 06:34 PM (EST)
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1. "Not a lot of good moments, mostly bad but..."
here is one of my few proud moments. I noticed in John's interview in "The Advocate" that he said that the coconut challenge was the beginning of "our" demise. He was referring to the Rotu 4 alliance. I speculated that this meant that Zoe, Robert, Tammy would be the next 3 voted off or else he would have said "my" demise.

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2. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
Barely any!!!LOL

When I read over at Survivorfever about Rob coaching in St. Louis and Jizzy went to meet him.

Calling Paschal's office and the Clerk's office to find out the court schedule. I think that gave us a little idea that he was sticking around.

Otherwise I had no shining moments. Hopefully someone from Columbus will be on next time so I can become a real sleuth!LOL

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18. "WORST=KATHY"
I must have voted for that girl at least 5 times, and of course i was wrong about her every time. I learned that Survivors are capable of game altering change.

The True Survivor Fox!!

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3. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
Best moment was when I was one of the people who figured out the hints CBS gave out that someone would get peed on. There were several of us who were posting about that within minutes of each other. That's one of the few instances where I was actually figuring things out instead of reacting to the vidcaps, research of others.

Worst moment actually was related to my biggest lesson: Don't vote on a bootee/challenge winner too early. My voting record was horrible this season because I jumped the gun and voted before I had full information, and didn't want to keep being a goober and going back to change my vote.

Even ruder and snottier as the years go by. Let's add mean, horrible, nasty witch while we're at it. Got it down to a science.

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5. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
How Did you figure that out?
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8. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
>How Did you figure that out?

The preview kept building up that we viewers would not believe what we had to see, plus all of the injuries. I am among the "Friends" defectors who remembered the beach episode where Monica got stung by a jellyfish and had to have the guys try and pee on her. Two of us posted about it at the same time, and turned out to be correct.

Even ruder and snottier as the years go by. Let's add mean, horrible, nasty witch while we're at it. Got it down to a science.

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4. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
Well, personaly, I think by far the worst momentS was anything to do with Tahiti Presse, it stunk.
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6. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
MB was very stingy with the content of his previews in S4, so vidcap pickings were pretty slim. However, I think, as a group, we did an excellent job of interpreting what we did see.

Personally, no biggies. I noticed Tammy's immunity necklace, but someone else posted that before I could. I figured out from the position of the sun (in the RC Pappy won for the boat trip) that the Survivors headed for shore as part of the challenge.

Shortly before Snewsers big Vee Wins! news hit the boards, I had a sinking feeling that MB might sneak in Vee as his UTR winner. At the time, I couldn't figure out why I thought this, and why his bombshell was so instantly believable to me. In retrospect, I have come up with this--I think Vee was in a preview for every ep of S4. Not featured, rarely talking, just there--usually in the background. I don't think this is true for any other player. In S5, I will try to keep an on-going log of who is/isn't in the previews of each episode. If someone UTR has a continuous preview exposure, I might expect them to go very far.


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7. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
My own high and low points:

High point: correctly picking Hunter. At the time, I did not even know of the existence of acmebraintrust or tdt.com. I started looking at Hunter as a possible bootee very early in the "week" (like Friday or Saturday), and became more convinced as time went on. I was in a distinct minority in choosing Hunter, but didn't let that deter me from a really good feeling in picking him.

honorable mention: knowing when to be a lemming. A few times, I allowed myself to be persuaded by others' arguments rather than going on some crazy scheme of my own.

I guess my low point would be not picking Sarah. For some reason, I went off on a brain tangent and decided the highly-advertised swap wouldn't happen, after all. Of course it did happen.

"Pappy didn't get voted off, he got stoned!" -- dabo

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9. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
Well, I too didn't believe the swap would happen that quickly, but I guess my absolute worst "moment" would have been wasting my time figuring out the bingo cards well enough to explain what they were saying, and then posting explanations. I didn't base any of my predictions on that stuff, it was a waste of time because the poster I was trying to help turned out to be uninterested in learning how to better himself. Well, that and thinking Zoe would break out with some kind of fascinating strategy.

Best moment? I think I was the first, or among the first, to identify Gabe as a nonplayer, which came from rereading his bio and reviewing segments of the show. I may even have been the first to call him a male Gretchen.

ARRRRRRR!!!!

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10. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
I know I didn't do tons of spoiling on my own. I just added my own 2 cents now and then. However I would like to say that my

BEST spoiler moment in S4 was:
Bonding with Shakes to help people realize that the Snewser information was something that you could take to the bank. That his "predictions" and his "inside information" were different things but something to trust. I bonded with Shakes in spoiling and came out unscathed.

WORST spoiling moment of S4:
Bonding with Shakes to help people realize that the Snewser information was something that you could take to the bank. That his "predictions" and his "inside information" were different things but something to trust. I bonded with Shakes in spoiling and came out unscathed.


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11. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
Well, I don't have many best moments. Usually, by the time I get over here someone has already said what I was thinking. But I do remember one:

BEST MOMENT
My best moment happened BEFORE the show even started. I was the FIRST person to notice how tall Peter was (he was by far, the tallest person in his tribe), and I used that info to declare GINA as the mystery person in the vidcap of Mara going to the IC in the second episode vidcap. Which meant that Peter was the first bootee.

WORST MOMENT
Whenever I voted wrong! DUH!

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12. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
Call me corny, but the absolute best moment was when I found the site and escaped from the losers in the CBS chat room!!!

Other best moment was when I picked a Rob boot based on Gina's early show interview and not being swayed by the spoiler talk blowing her interview off. (On the Early Show she talked about Rob playing a stupid game, but still being in the game.) You had to see the interview to really get it.

Worst spoiling moment was reading Snewser's prediction that Vee would in fact win it all and not believing it. I could have scored big points on fantasysurvivor4.com if I had just gone with the flow.

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13. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
<<Call me corny, but the absolute best moment was when I found the site and escaped from the losers in the CBS chat room!!!>>

lol that's so sweet - hey, remember during Survivor 2 when the people in the chat rooms on the CBS site actually used to talk about Survivor? ;)

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14. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
"<<Call me corny, but the absolute best moment was when I found the site and escaped from the losers in the CBS chat room!!!>>
lol that's so sweet - hey, remember during Survivor 2 when the people in the chat rooms on the CBS site actually used to talk about Survivor? ;)"

OMG, you guys went there too?
Do you remember all the Hackers and Clones? I never saw you guys in there. Those people are idiots. We can talk more on that later.

My best and worst spoiling moments

Best:
Predicting that Zoe would get booted on "the most unpredictable episode yet" by my own analyzing skills.

Worst:
Thinking Mark Burnett would edit the show to have an interesting outcome and writing a HUGE post on how kathy would win.


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16. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
<<I never saw you guys in there.>>

I've actually seen you in there IE (during S3 - I didn't bother with them during S4 ;)

I tend to go under many different names in those chats....

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15. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
Best moment (and it's pretty lame at that) - deciding to take the spoiler info of Zoe returning from Australia as evidence that she had to come back to do the Early Show and choosing her to be booted before Tammy or Robert.

Worst moment (there were soooooo many) - refusing to believe that Neleh and Vee would be the final two. It just seemed (and still does, actually) too stupid.

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17. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
Sounds like the place to toot my own horn:

My BEST spoiling was by far the initial "outing" of Patricia, news which, b/t/w, was right here in SBlows and refered to on all the other boards. Also, in talking with her a second time when she was NOT HAPPY about that fact.

My WORST spoiling was the pure speculation about the final 4. Although I got the final 2 rightr, I missed the order of all 3 final boots and had picked Neleh to win.

Here's to another great upcoming season (is it REALLY that far away?)

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19. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
Best: One of the first people to pick Hunter's boot and guessing most of the RC winners correctly.

Worst: Picking Nelly as the Survivor winner despite Snewser's spoiler and not checking the boards and missed out on Gabe's boot speculation.

Still a decent 36th place finish on my first complete Spoiler Island despite all the dumb mistakes (S3 didn't count coz I started in the middle of the season). Will hopefully do better on S5. Happy spoiling to everyone.


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20. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
BEST- Decoding the grammar of the 'Red Herrings' on CBS.com to predict outcome twice.
1. Guessing the John Boot from the red herring "Sean and Vee fight to survive", knowing that they either will or won't survive, and since they BOTH couldn't be booted, they would survive.
2. "Last minute deals" in the last episode pointed to Vee winning immunity, because if she didn't there would be no deals cut.

WORST - Relying on storyline evidence. I discounted Vee because her story didn't exist.


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21. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
Ironically, my best moment spoiling S4 was week 11 when I was so busy I couldn't even read the boards, so I just did some random picks and guessed everything right. LOL!

Worst moment: every ounce of energy wasted on Zoe.

I would like to take this opportunity to mention what I think was the best post of the season, and unfortunately it was virtually ignored.

I think it was week five or six -- anyway, Frau Hexe (who doesn't post much on spoilers) predicted that the males would bump each other off in a struggle for power, leaving the women to finish the endgame. Obviously, there was a lot more to it than that, and the post was so analytically sound that I used that theory to help me with my weekly picks. I didn't fair to badly either. Anyway, if you're interested in checking out the thread, it's titled "Power Can Only Be Granted -- But by whom?" It should be easy enough to find in the archives.

Even though she predicted that Zoe and Tammy would go far, I think the general analysis was right on target. Go Hexe!


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22. "RE: Best and Worst Moments Spoiling S4"
I would like to take this opportunity to mention what I think was the best post of the season, and unfortunately it was virtually ignored.

I kept Hexe's post in the back of my mind throughout the rest of the season, because she did make some excellent points. I think one reason it got lost was because of all the chart nonsense, etc. that kept pushing good material off of page 1. People would post ep titles as soon as they were known, but by the time the ep aired, that post would have ended up in the cobwebs of page 4. Sigh.

Rude, snotty, mean, horrible, nasty, witch, yadda yadda yadda...

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