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"SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time to Vote...."
Superman 3157 desperate attention whore postings
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"SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time to Vote...." |
Hey kids! Miss me? Yeah, well, I didn't miss you either.  Ok, after a week of tough spoiling and more locked threads than you can shake a stick at, are you really ready for this? Yeah? Ok, heeeeeeeeere goes.. THE RULES 1. Please put the name of your choice for this week's bootee IN THE SUBJECT HEADING! Simply replace the section of your post that reads, "Re:SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time to Vote!" with your pick. Maybe we should be clearer. Put the name. Cutesy titles that don't make the name obvious make tallying the votes a pain in the ass. Violators last week: none! Woo! 2. Reply ONLY to this post! Do not reply to the last post on this thread. Do not reply to any other post on this thread. After reading these rules on THIS post click on the "reply" button in the bottom right of THIS POST ONLY. Violators last week: BMH, King William, and a blatent violation by shakes the clown. Isn't this shakes second violation? I don't have the energy to go check, so here's a small flame just in case: Shakes, your vote thread display of whoredom did not go unnoticed...by you anyway. Hope that your ego is nice and full now and that you can get back to trying to invent that time machine to try and slow up your 15 minutes of fame. 3. THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION THREAD! DO NOT TREAT IT AS SUCH! When you make your post, feel free to give your reasoning and your theories in the message portion. BUT, for further discussion of said theories, take it outside. THE STRONGLY WORDED SUGGESTIONS 1. If you read the summary and didn't get a chance to thank the writer, now would be a great time to do so. This week's summary writer was Pepe. I think he just posted it today, go check it out! 2. Taunt previous violators of the rules at will upon their first violation. That'd be: BMH and King William. Also feel free to taunt shakes. Warning! Webby DOES have a no tolerence policy! So please, keep it at taunt level. (Yeah, I know I gave him a small flame, but I have amnesty in this situation, right?) And as always, Happy Voting! 
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C_Master 31 desperate attention whore postings
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04-23-02, 10:52 PM (EST)
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1. "Tammy" |
Seems pretty obvious if you think the necklace was a MB plant.
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BaquaR13 1336 desperate attention whore postings
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04-23-02, 10:58 PM (EST)
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2. "Robert" |
Yeah yeah yeah, we missed ya. Ok, so let's think about this. Tammy probably wins the IC, i guess you could say that MB would try to misdirect us but somehow i just dont buy it. Especially since he did show us last week, and he could have mislead us last week also. Some may say that he waited to mislead us this week because Tammy will go, but i dont beleive that. This episode is said to be shocking. Well i think that having Robert kicked off may be a shock to some people. Another thing: they mentioned last episode at least two times about how they would want to get rid of Tammy and John. Would they really hint at getting rid of Tammy if they were only going to kick her off the very next episode? They never once hinted at the departure of Robert, that is where the shock comes in. It might be hard for them to do it, but without the possibility of getting rid of Tammy, i only see Robert left.
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janisella 698 desperate attention whore postings
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04-23-02, 11:21 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Sean" |
With John gone, they don't need him anymore.
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drawde236 317 desperate attention whore postings
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04-23-02, 11:45 PM (EST)
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4. "Paschal" |
If it's shocking they're promising, it wouldn't get much more shocking than this.
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04-24-02, 00:41 AM (EST)
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5. "Tammy " |
I think that a picture is worth a thousand words. Now, seeing that pic of her with the immunity necklace, I believe that the pic of her and the General sitting next to each other with that look on Tammy's face says a lot. It say, "I am down and out."If you look at the photo of her with the necklace, and the photo of her and Robert sitting next to each other, you will see that she is wearing the same top!! Now in the immunity pic, she is wearing a swimsuit bottom, and in the Robert pic, she is wearing shorts. Can I safely assume that she wears the swimsuit to the challenge, and afterwards, puts on shorts? She is also MISSING the necklace in her pic with Robert, which says to me, she does NOT win immunity. My alternate pic is Zoe, because she gets booted for playing both sides. I will post my congrats to the summary on it's board when I read it. Oh, and one last thing: BOO THE VIOLATORS!!!! Hulkamania is STILL runnin' WILD!!!! Hulk STILL RULES, and he has the title to prove it!!
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smokedog 1885 desperate attention whore postings
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04-24-02, 02:05 AM (EST)
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7. "Neleh" |
It would be shocking and would dispose of someone you would not want to face in the final two.
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Naked 887 desperate attention whore postings
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04-24-02, 02:11 AM (EST)
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8. "Tammy" |
Last weeks shakeup couldn't have happened without a long range goal. That goal has to be getting rid of the new Rotu alliance...
Tammy's next
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Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings
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04-24-02, 03:30 AM (EST)
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9. "Robert" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-24-02 AT 03:33 AM (EST)Pepe, Thanks for a most excellent summary! Last Thursday night it all seemed so clear that Tammy or Robert had to be next. Then the IN muddied up the waters and got the speculation going. Then the tiebreaker discussions blew everything wide open and nothing seemed "unpredictable" anymore. So here I am again after coming full cicle right back where I started from... Game Logic still points to Tammy or Robert and here's evidence that I think supports it:
EP11: Marquesan Vacation:
This would be the “family visit” episode. Sean is rumored to stick around until the 2nd week in December, and Tammy’s fiancée was reported to have traveled to Tahiti.
Conclusion: Tammy and Sean are safe this week.
John’s Interview:
When John was interviewed by the Advocate he slipped and referred to “…OUR demise…”
Conclusion: Robert, Zoe, and Tammy aren’t far behind John.
Immunity Necklace:
Tammy is shown with the IN as the tribe returns to camp, as Robert and Tammy console each other. Robert alienated himself from the rest of the tribe by associating with John and Tammy. He is now the prime target. Robert may even win the IC and in an “unpredictable” move give it to Tammy!
Conclusion: Tammy is safe, Robert is not.
EP9 Web Teasers:
“One castaway forms a crafty new strategy and another can't believe that the tribe is falling for it.” Zoe rebuilds her alliance with Kathy, while Tammy, who feels betrayed, can’t believe it. Zoe abandons ship, while Tammy and the General are left alone to go down with it.
Conclusion: Tammy has the IN as a life preserver, Robert does not.
Asian Preview and Editing:
Last week MB used the previous weeks comments made by Kathy, to make it appear that Zoe and Kathy had unresolved issues. This week MB will use the Zoe vs. Tammy issues to set up a red herring showdown between Zoe and Tammy. In the end Zoe will be happily reunited with Kathy and Tammy will win immunity, to the surprise of the general viewing public, the majority of whom think Tammy gets the boot this week.
Conclusion: Tammy and Zoe are safe this week.
CBS Poll Theory: The CBS Poll is used to draw attention away from the weeks bootee. This week it asks… “ Now that John is gone, which Survivor is most likely to emerge as Soliantu's most powerful tribe member?”
Sean Rector 19.59%
Tammy Leitner 16.29%
Kathy Vavrick-O'Brien 64.11% Conclusion: Sean, Tammy and Kathy are safe this week.
The Religious Bond:
We have seen Neleh, Sean and Vee praying and we know that Pappy is also religious., but we have yet to see the religious issue influence the vote.
Conclusion: Paschal/Neleh and Sean /Vee vote together.
Protected by the Waterfall:
It has been speculated that MB uses the waterfall as symbolism for life , strength and rejuvination. This week we see Sean standing under the waterfall.
Conclusion: Sean is safe this week.
Four Alliances of Two:
Paschal and Neleh are voting together. Kathy and Zoe are voting with them. Tammy and Robert are voting against them. Vee could go either way. So it’s really up to Sean to decide if he wants to jump back into the fire and risk being the target in a tie breaker situation….or enjoy the next three days, basking in his “new found power” while deciding to vote off Tammy or Robert. Sean is basically lazy and will just wait. Paschal, who still wants to get rid of Sean, is a patient Judge and will wait before passing judgement on Sean.
Conclusion: Robert will be the target at TC, but Sean’s not too many episodes behind..
“Unpredictable” 45% of the general viewing audience is predicting a Tammy boot…. Tammy winning immunity would be “unpredictable”. Two members of the Rotu 4 alliance become bitter enemies as Tammy and Zoe have it out…”unpredictable”. During the RC something surprising happens to move the two winners to tears…unpredictable. Robert wins the IC and in an “unpredictable” move gives the IN to Tammy who wears it back to camp. Tammy was the target, but Robert chooses to protect his tribe mate, with a selfless act…unpredictable. Rather than Tammy , Zoe or Sean being voted off as the general viewing audience suspects…Robert is voted off after being featured in the Recap episode...likeable guy with character now rehabilitated, voted off at TC...”unpredictable”. We'll see if the Recap Show sheds any more light on the specualtion...
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04-24-02, 08:44 AM (EST)
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16. "Robert" |
I don't have a coherent theory, but my feeling is that Paschal was *seriously* upset by the coconut chopping last time. So it is 'personal' for him, and he will continue to push for chopping down the R4 in revenge even though strategically it might be better to go after Sean. This could change in a few days, but we have to keep in mind that only three days elapse between TCs for the contestants -- easy enough to carry a grudge that long. And I think Paschal's views are the key ones right now: Neleh will defer to him, Kathy knows they're a solid voting block and won't rock the boat so long as the pickee is any of her top 3 or 4 choices, Sean will be happy to have the only other young/strong male taken out of competition, Zoe will play 'good alliance member' with all her heart, V will continue to go with the flow until she sees her own turn on the block has come. As for why Robert vs. Tammy or Zoe, a bunch of factors: Zoe did jump ship, and may have had a stronger pre-swap relationship with Neleh/Paschal that she can revive enough to get out of the bulls-eye. I don't think the IN shot of Tammy in the preview is doctored. A change like that would just be blatantly obvious (in hindsight) to casual viewers, and such 'cheating' might well cause illwill and negatively affect the ratings. I think the hugging between R & T is in the context of R being a good sport: he knew either he or T was the likely target, and her winning the IC has changed his chances of being booted from 50% to 100%, and he's showing he doesn't resent her for it. With all the ground-pawing this group has lived with, there has to be a mindset by now that MEN ARE MORE IMPORTANT. There might be a bias to assume that Robert HAD to be the number two in that alliance, thus the second person to target. (This might be especially strong in Paschal's thinking -- older, more steeped in the MAMI due to longer working in a male dominated world.) Finally, Robert is big and strong -- always reasons to fear he can win ICs on you. Kill him at the first chance, the reasoning goes, because you might not get another.
And after all that, I will totally not be surprised if Robert doesn't go. :-D
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04-24-02, 09:51 AM (EST)
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17. "Tammy" |
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04-24-02, 10:37 AM (EST)
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19. "Tammy or General" |
It has to be one of these two, John's old alliance is history.
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cowboyroo 590 desperate attention whore postings
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04-24-02, 11:48 AM (EST)
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22. "Tammy" |
1) Immunity Necklace shots are Red Herring. I think the photo may be doctored. Bikini bottoms look fake.2) Tammy is obvious choice thus throw IN down our throats 2 weeks in a row. 3) TV Guide Flip-It game. Six Survivors not pictured (Vee, John, Peter, Zoe, Kathy, Paschal). I believe the six represent 1st booted, 1st jury memeber and Final Four. Us magazine had photos with a similar pattern the past two years. This would leave Robert, Tammy, Neleh and Sean as the next 4 if this is correct. 4) Jeff Varner predictions. I believe his six originals may be the first three booted and the last three booted. He was too on the money for it to be chance. This would put Robert as the last bootee before Final 4. 5) The other Survivors, even Kathy may not trust Zoe even though she voted with them. That would leave Old Rotu still 3 strong. One of them needs to go. 6) Oceanus spoiler may have some credibility. It got John right and Tammy is obvious choice. Possibly the person who leaked it and claimed it a hoax has been getting pressure from CBS for the leak. 7) John saying his alliance didn't fare well. 8) Spiked face time for Tammy 9) Asian previews with fights with Zoe. 10) LONGSHOT....The crafty strategy might be an agreement that whoever wins Immunity passes it along and in a gentlemanly manner, the other Survivors agree not to boot either. This way Tammy could try to save Robert and herself and make Zoe the target....Other Survivors may agree to it just so they can get Tammy to pass it along and boot her....The Old Rotu alliance lied so why not follow suit...it is a game after all...Tammy does win IN, passes it to Robert thinking they are both safe and gets booted anyway...This would definitely make the game interesting!
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04-24-02, 12:12 PM (EST)
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23. "Robert" |
Yeah, I know, we haven't heard his "story", but how well did we know Nick or Amber? Robert had been using John as a shield, now John is gone. Look out!Ok, violators, (BMH, King William, and Shakes) behave yourselves, especially Shakes! SG R.I.P. (Recreating In Paradise):
Peter Harkey: Alien from Uranus getting into the best shape of his life.
Patricia Jackson: Nacho Mama chillin' at the Loser Buffet.
Hunter Ellis: The Knuckleheads have spoken sending the Eagle to go scuba diving.
Sarah Jones: Miss No-nos begins her tropical vacation at last.
Gabriel Cade: The teddy bear hugger looks for a new commune where they don't play games.
Gina Crews: Happy trails to our nature guide as she and Hunter meet at the Lover's Lodge. Favorite buffet item: Watermelon
Rob Mariano: The Robfodder never caught a chicken and he ain't no friend of mine.
John Carroll: This isn't the crying game, dude. Take it like a man.
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MikeD 344 desperate attention whore postings
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04-24-02, 12:21 PM (EST)
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24. "ZOE" |
Get this liar out of the game already - I am tired of her antics...
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04-24-02, 12:25 PM (EST)
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25. "Pachcal" |
Tammy or Robert is too obvious.Kathy was getting pretty frustrated with Pachcal when she was trying to turn his vote last week. He was acting like a moron. If Tammy does win immunity, I don't think Pachcal will agree to vote for Robert. They seem pretty tight. He's going to insist on voting for Sean. This would be a surprise. It would show Kathy was thinking about who she wants to face in the final four. It would break up the only solid voting block on the show. And the old guys never make it that far.
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04-24-02, 01:20 PM (EST)
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27. "Tammy" |
She wins immunity but thinking she is safe and zoe is out, she hands it to robert. The most unpredictable episode ever comes about when she is voted off.El Tribu Ha Hablado
Es tiempo para tu ir.
"I know I don't know you, and you're probably not what you seem, but I sure would like to find out so why don't you climb down of that TV screen" Gina Crews, the Sole Survivor!
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gorudygo 51 desperate attention whore postings
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04-24-02, 01:30 PM (EST)
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28. "Tammy" |
Because of her bone-head comment about P/N/V/S/K being happy about being on the jury!PS What has sixteen legs, an IQ of 86, and smells really, really bad? You guessed it -- the remaining survivors!
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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings
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04-24-02, 02:41 PM (EST)
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30. "Zoe" |
Me thinks Zoe not only has it out with Tammy(in front or Robert). But is only using that as a catalyst to pull the wool over someones eyes. Unfortunately for her, everyone else in the tribe is also watching. And much like in the past, schemers are dealt with very quickly. I also believe that the whole episode will play out in pairs. With Tammy and her partner sharing immunity for one Ep. This seems odd even as I have mulled it over, and most likely will not happen, but somehow with the issue of the IN and the "unpredictability" hype, there is going to be more to the TC than just Tammy with IN, and everyone votes "General". But if Zoe allies with "PiNK'Z" and spearheads a Sean boot. The next thing you know Sean and Vee are headed back over to T/R and making it Rotu-4 vs Rotu 4 "2.0".
I really could be speaking out my @$$ come Thursday night, but at the moment, I'm speculatin' somethin' huge. Even if it doesn't turn out as a tie(or dualImmunity) Zoe will have made enough bad connections with people to warrant a reaction even if she tries to speak, let alone make waves.
Bye LobsterLady. And truthfully she will be missed by me.She is the last of my favorite picks for F2(Gina and John the others)
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04-24-02, 03:57 PM (EST)
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33. "ROBERT!" |
This is my 2nd vote of the season, and since I got last week right, I am going to play with fate again and see if I get it again. First of all, I really don't think N/P/K/V are going this week, that leaves Zoe, Robert, Sean and Tammy. Since Tammy had the immunity necklace on, and people talking about how she wins this weeks IC, I am going on with the conclusion that she DOES win and she DOES NOT give it to Robert. I don't see her giving up like that, she previously said in like a video or something that she would do anything to win the game, and I dont see her going back on her word to sacrifice herself for Robert. Robert will be the one to tell her not to give the IN to him. That leaves Zoe, Rober and Sean. I don't really think Sean is the "leader" of the temporary alliance, and I don't see him being targeted this week because they will vote out Robert and because of the family spoiler. That leaves Zoe and Robert. I can see both of these people going and both shows being unpredictable.First ZOE-
-Zoe and Tammy's argument/fight : Tammy will do anything in her power to get Zoe out, and bring Robert along for help.
-Ship Jumping : Jumping ship is places a BIG target on you (Brandon last year), it shows that you think your vulnerable and you will be next. You don't jump ship unless you have a GREAT plan. I don't think Zoe is smart enough to think of a big plan yet.
-Kathy made up with Zoe? : Well, thats a hard one. I remember seeing strings around both their arms, but I don't think its that strong of a bond yet. Kathy could easily find out that they did have an original idea of voting her off and then ask Zoe why she would lie to her. Big problem for Zoe. Now ROBERT-
-Last of the Rotu2 (minus Tammy) : Neleh says "beat them at their own game" instead of HER in which she would be talking about Tammy which is an obvious choice. She includes Robert in this because she seems them together. Even though they like eachother and whatnot, Robert was going to stab Neleh and Co. first, and honesty plays a big part.
-Tammy gives Immunity to Robert? : In a million years, Tammy would not give up her chance for that. Please.
-Stupid one like Amber, Lazy one like Nick : They both really FOLLOWED instead of lead, and Robert has never took control of ANYTHING, and sorry for his fans, but I don't see a story coming from him in any way shape or form. His story was following an alliance that would soon be gone.
-POWER SHIFT : They would not put that unless their wasnt, and if their wasn't, Robert woulnd't be in trouble. Of course it could be a big power shift back to Rotu, but come on, I don't see that at all. In conclusion, Robert is out this week for the reasons I have stated. Tammy is not out because well, it's too obvious. And Zoe is my alternate pick because of the reasons I stated.
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04-24-02, 04:15 PM (EST)
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35. "Robert" |
ALT Pick--Tammy After last week, K/P/N/S/V have the power to control and if they are smart will do it till the original "4" are GONE!
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04-24-02, 04:49 PM (EST)
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36. "Robert" |
Tammy is too obvious, but I think someone from the original Rotu 4 will have to go.
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04-24-02, 04:55 PM (EST)
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37. "Robert" |
Tammy is too predictable....although I don't think the SeeBS misdirection about unpredictablilty has to do with who gets voted off. Maybe Robert gives Tammy the IC necklace thinking he's safe and then gets axed. I am hoping it's Tammy so it will probably be Robert.
Alt: Zoe (no reason, just getting sick of her)
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04-24-02, 05:53 PM (EST)
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38. "Kathy" |
Gee....nobodys picked Kathy and while she seems to be the "bridge" that brought together the Vee/Sean and Paschal/Neleh votes I feel our dear friend Sean still wants to be the big cheese and will try to take her out. Let's see....
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04-24-02, 06:07 PM (EST)
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39. "Pascal" |
The roach is back bashers bash away
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04-24-02, 11:36 PM (EST)
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41. "Hey Zoe..." |
...it's time for you to go!
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04-25-02, 00:12 AM (EST)
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42. "Robert" |
Robert, then Tammy.
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43. "Zoe" |
Tammy and her fight. Robert will still vote with Tammy. Sean will find out how she backstabbed a former alliance mate and that will make him nervous, V will vote with Sean. 4-4 but I'm guessing somehow N/P get on board.
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04-25-02, 01:45 AM (EST)
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44. "Robert" |
Rule #1: if you're going to stage a revolution, kill the leader of the other side. The Underdogs followed that strategy last week ... except John wasn't the leader, Tammy was, but she was immune. And she'll be immune again this week. So the insurgents have to go after her last true follower: Robert.
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04-25-02, 01:50 AM (EST)
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45. "Vote Tally" |
This is Post #45, including 43 votes, 1 wishy washy half-vote, 1 prior vote tally, and no rules violations...Tammy: 15.5
Robert: 13.5
Zoe: 6
Paschal: 3
Sean: 2
Neleh: 1
Vee: 1
Kathy: 1 UTR--The pigs that can't find the trap! I've always wanted to do this! Wahoo!
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48. "Zoe" |
When I sign off for the evening I won't be back before the show has aired. If I felt better about my pick that would be ok, but I really don't know who is going yet (despite the amount of time I have tried to figure it out). I think Tammy would be the target, but she is immune. I don't see her giving up the IN for any reason. So Tammy is safe. I believe the Snewser Sean spoiler, so unless the RC involves a visit from home (which causes people to cry), I'm thinking he is safe too. I also think the game logic sucks for this to happen as well. So Sean is safe. If Sean is safe I can't see how Vee wouldn't be too. So Vee is safe. I think there are better targets than Neleh in the NuMu-5 alliance in Kathy or Paschal. So Neleh is safe. Which leaves us with Robert, Zoe, Kathy, and Paschal. The weakest argument and the least likely outcome (given what we don't know about ties) helps me elliminate Pappy. So Paschal is safe. Robert got a little new face time in the recap. Kathy was further redeemed from her past disgressions. Zoe was still invisible. I am 80% convinced it is one of them (although I really would like to add Sean) becuase the previews scream he should be next by touting him as head of the NuMu-5! (LMAO) Although I would like to see Kathy booted here, I'm starting to buy in a little to the fact she is in this thing for the long haul. When you add in her long term editing I think a case can be made that if she doesn't completely loose it, she is a strong candidate for at least final 2. Leaving us with Robert and Zoe. I can make good arguements on either side here, but in the end I don't think the trust will ever fully return between Zoe and the NuMu-5, and the NuMu-5 will last at least a round or two... so Zoe, the tribe has spoken it is time for you to go (and it's time for me to go, to bed  ) -ICB plus scissor's cut paper
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While some argue that Tammy being the obvious target of the New
Supermu, makes it too obvious; I would also argue that the vidcaps of Tammy with IN--two weeks in a row + the recap episode's preview of the Z/T fight; all appear to make Tammy look safe, and Zoe the next likely boot. While some would agree that the fact that Robert,
hasn't gotten enough of a story, is irrelevant, ala Nick and Amber; he has even gotten less.
However, I'll play Devil's advocate, anyway, and select Robert as the alternate pick (in case I'm wrong about T. not winning IC). Since I don't think J/T/R know about Zoe's vote for John,
and See-BS hardly foccuses on it; I think the T/Z fight, comes after the IC, when Tammy realises that Zoe is going to betray her and vote her off. The Brandon/Kelly Wigglesworth argument about Zoe; is half-baked IMO, No one save Kathy might know about Zoe's defection. It is not in the open, yet unlike B/K. K/N/P/S/V, would be crazy to vote for anyone other than Tammy and Robert--at least this week; so I think those 5 are safe for now. If Kathy know's about Zoe's defection; which IMHO, she does, se will let N/P/S/V, in on it. If she doesn't, Zoe will tell the truth for once, and tell them. This might not be a good reason, but since, the last 2 boots have been male; I'll guess a female is more likely to be the next boot. Eventhough Kathy doesn't exactly trust Zoe, she needs an alliance partner, like N/P, and S/V; if she wants to win.
I think that it's in Kathy's best interest to keep Zoe safe.
I beleive with Zoe's help, she convinces the others to go for T/R instead. Tammy knows what Zoe is up to, but no one believes her. Her overzealous efforts to convince the rest of the group, that Zoe can't be trusted, fall on deaf ears, and conspire to make her an even bigger target (than she already is) than Robert. 
Elenor Roosevelt: No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
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51. "Zoe" |
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54. "Robert" |
This vote would be Tammy if I had some doubt about her winning another immunity challenge...if she gives it away, she's gone.
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56. "Robert" |
First, I think Tammy wins immunity. This saves her from being voted out this week. Second, the Misfit Alliance will remain strong to vote off T/R. Third, We were "reintroduced" to Robert in the recap episode and I think we'll see more of him tonight. It really doesn't take more than an episode to develop a boring character such as himself. As a side note, I don't think we'll see a tie as speculated tonight. I do however think we'll see a tie in the final 4, therefore giving us no idea how it will be broken, and therefore no predictablity. I'm also grasping onto the SN Sean spoiler that he sticks around for a bit longer. Also, I'm still holding on to the weight loss spoilers for another few episodes. Although, as Shakes said, they are loosing their luster. Just for the heck of it, I may go give a shot at the PTTE now.
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57. "Tammy" |
The only two spoilers we have this week are
1) Sean wins the RC later so he can't go this week.
2) Cruise ship spoiler.
Both of these have had holes punched in them left and right lately - not to mention the retraction of the cruise ship.We have the IN pic, and nobody can decide when it happens, we have the foreign preview showing T and Z conflict, and we have speculation that K could be edited to go all the way. Could S/V see the writing on the wall and team up with R/T to force a tie vote and make it to F4? Would P/N team up with S/V to vote Z off and tell K/Z they are voting for R? Wow. Speculation abounds. We DO need to start over. I bet EPM is loving this! What do I think? I think the IN pic is a red herring. I think Zoe wins immunity and Tammy is the one to go. Why? Call it a gut feeling. I don't think V or S go yet. I see K being edited for some reason, but don't think she's being set up to go this week - I lean more towards her and Z being F2. Z is the only one we're shown in the IC because she wins. She then loses it just a bit, feeling cocky and sure of herself, resulting in the confrontation with T in the foreign preview. Z knows she's safe and T is the target. Pappy or Sweetpea going? I think this'd only happen IF S/V team up with R/T to wiggle into the F4 and target the (current) strongest alliance, then P/N lose whatever tie-breaker is in place. Alternate picks? N or P based on the tie-breaker thing being pushed this season. This is probably the most likely time for it and if it IS the jury casting tie-breaking votes, J would definately side with T/R and vote off P/N.
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59. "Robert" |
I'm taking the picture of Tammy wearing the IN at face value. She has immunity this week so the others send Robert to loser lodge. Tammy will join him (and John) next week and the three of them can now go get tattooed.
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60. "Robert" |
He's the general and that's that!
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61. "Robert" |
Eh...I'll credit Shakes for my decision
I can see Tammy (if by some odd reason she passes IN on) and Z going just as easily, but I think the general is misplaced in this soon to be girl slumber party.
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62. "Zoe" |
With a variation on the OFG theory, her spike in preview and face time - plus the fact that Robert has pretty much had zero face time - I'm picking Zzzz to go next. She seems to be the easy vote for everyone. Robert may be the bigger immunity threat, but I just don't see him going before he gets a story line.
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04-25-02, 12:26 PM (EST)
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63. "Robert" |
Going with Survivor News even though it's wishy washy this week.
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04-25-02, 01:06 PM (EST)
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65. "Zzzzzzzzoe" |
This will be her time to go. T will win immunity. They will jump on Zoe for her trying to jump on with the power shift alliance last week.
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66. "Tammy" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-25-02 AT 01:26 PM (EST)I have spent more time this week trying to spoil the bootee than any other week. And I am still clueless. here's my take: MB wants us to think Tammy gets and keeps IN, so we don't all pick her to go. But if she really does win the IC and keeps IN, wouldn't they HIDE any pic of her wearing the IN so that we guess she goes and are wrong? IMO, Robert CAN'T get the boot tonight b/c if we believe the Tammy IN pic, which is obviously from this ep. based on buff placement and clothing is the newest promo, Robert is logical and I don't believe we would be flat out "given" the less likely Robert boot. So I am back to the starting blocks and voting with my gut. Either Tammy doesn't win IC and this vidcap is somehow explainable on other grounds, or she wins it and gives it up for some strategic reason (S/V promise to vote with her and R if she gives up IN) and gets the boot anyway, via tie-breaker or an S/V ruse. It's all I got and I am going with it. **Edited to add: One more piece of logic, based on Teddy Bear's post (thanks!) The Tammy quote (Zoe's a beyotch) may very likely come after IC (based on Tammy buff placement and clothing) and she is NOT wearing the IN. Ok, enough justifying. Time to sit back and wait to look stoopid. 
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67. "Zoe" |
No logical reason for Zoe to go. It's just annoying to watch her play both sides- hoping they feel the same.
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68. "Robert" |
'nuff said.
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70. "Zoe" |
I've been twisting my brain into knots trying to decide if the picture of Tammy with the IN was a gimme or misdirection. I still can't convince myself either way, but the consensus seems to be that Tammy does in fact win the IC, so I'll go along with that conclusion. The only other people besides Tammy who I think are possible boots (for reasons given elsewhere by others) are Robert and Zoe. Both of these people are extremely boring. Therefore, neither will ever have much of a story to tell. If either of them has been given any kind of storyline at all, though, it has been Zoe and her apparent lying. We've seen in the past that alliance swapping, wishy-washiness, and perceived lying usually lead to a swift booting. So Zoe it is.
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73. "Robert" |
last week I would have said Tammy for sure! But I think she wins IC again. And I do not think the power will change this week, next week is a different story.
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04-25-02, 02:17 PM (EST)
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74. "Vee" |
If interested, see boot thread spec for reasons.
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04-25-02, 02:33 PM (EST)
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77. "Kathy" |
MB has promised us the "most shocking episode of survivor" this week. I think MB learned from his loss of audience during S3 and is delivering what he promises in the previews this time, unlike S3. The only boot I can think of that would shock me that much this week is Kathy. This season of survivor has had a running theme of; development of the villain, villian gains power, villain is voted out. (Rob, John, Kathy?, Sean?) I would normally expect Sean to be the next villain, but I believe the family visit spoiler. My final reason for choosing Kathy....It'll be fun to go out on a limb on this one. hee hee!
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04-25-02, 02:38 PM (EST)
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78. "Robert" |
Krautboy is on a roll. Thank you Krautboy for all your insight.
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81. "Robert" |
It's the most unpredictable episode ever!!!A new alliance of five has formed, but then Zoe switches, and before you know it, there are four alliances of 2. Will they switch sides??? Will they double cross each other??? Will S/V realize they are gone if they don't ally with T/R??? No. This is Survivor... there's no such thing as unpredictable. Bye bye Robert... since Tammy won the immunity it's your turn to be Pagonged by the alliance of 6. Stay tuned for next week when the Pagong show continues... or will it??? It's the most unpredictable season ever!!!! (pause for a moment to wipe that bad taste out of my mouth... there... much better) 
You never know what might be up my sleeeve... 
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84. "General Robert E Leeaving the game" |
As I stated on the boot spec thread, there are only two boot options this week, Robert and Zzzzzz. Tammy wins immunity, Sean is untouchable due to the Snewser spoiler.There are only TWO possible scenarios this week... Scenario #1 = P/N/S/V/K continue their mini-pagonging of Rotu and dispose of either Robert or Zzzzz, Tammy has immunity. Scenario #2 = R/T/S/V team up to force a tie vote with K/Z/P/N. In this scenario once again the only possible boot candidates are Zzzzz and Robert. Zzzz would definitely be OldRotu's target after the blowout with Tammy this ep and Robert would be the other target by process of elimination....Tammy wins IC, Sean is untoucable, Vee isn't even in the game.
OF these two scenarios I would say that scenario #1 has about a 90% probability rate and scenario #2 is about 10% probable. Sean and Vee may feel that they are on the outskirts of the SuperMu alliance, but I really don't think they are going to make a move that would most likely result in a tie vote at TC. For Sean and Vee to make a move it would have to be a sure thing, not a 50/50 chance. Also, a move such as this would require Sean to play both sides of the fence, something he prides himself in NOT doing.
So, that gives us our mini-pagoning.....this is where the "crafty strategy" comes in. CBS has done their best to make it seem that Zzzzz is still very much a part of the Rotu alliance when us astute spoilers know that she is not. Why are they doing this? So, when Tammy wins IC this week it CBS will still have two possible candidates to paint for the boot in Robert and Zzzzzz. Zzzz will use her crafty strategy to weasel her way out of the boot spotlight. Also, the ET preview further convinced me that Zzzz was safe....way way too much focus on Zzzzz being on the outs due to her Rotu affiliation. As for the "unpredictable" element, that is simple. We have two boot candidates tonight, Tammy and Zzzzzz. Zzzzz worms her way out of the boot by ass kissing and Tammy comes through with a huge IC victory leading to the previously unpredictable boot of Robert. I'm sure I could write several other reasons why I am leaning this way, but its already been addressed on the board as well as the usual stellar reasoning of the German kid in this thread. 
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85. "Robert" |
There goes The General, and that's that.
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04-25-02, 03:30 PM (EST)
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86. "Robert" |
I think the MooMoo alliance will continue to take out John's minions, and that Tammy is the real target but she'll get immunity.
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87. "Robert" |
Now that his shield (John) has been torn down, he's very vulnerable. I think the picture of Tammy wearing the IN is real, and she can't be voted off tonight. In regards to a Zoe boot? She just doesn't have enough of a story to go at this point. In fact, I'd say this is just the beginning for Zoe. The underdog alliance will hold until the final six IMO.RC: Zoe/Neleh
IC: Tammy
Boot: The General Gee, we hardley knew you. 
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04-25-02, 03:56 PM (EST)
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89. "Robert" |
If Zoe were going, SeeBS would be playing up her vote trying to make her seem like a potential part of the ruling alliance to make it that more shocking when she got the boot. Since that's not what they are doing, she is safe.It makes no sense for any of the NuMu5 to turn on each other at this point. Unlike John, Sean and Vee can do math. With 8 people left, you need 5 votes to control the game. Pare people from your ruling alliance only when it is safe to do so. So the NuMu5 are all safe. As for Tammy and Robert? Unpredictable to me means back and forth. So my guess is that the Tammy-Zoe thing will be played up, and (stick with me folks) Tammy will NOT win immunity. This will cause everyone, spoilers and casual fans alike, to assume that she is history. But for whatever reason (maybe Vee and Tammy bond at their RC victory? maybe Robert is still perceived as a bigger threat?) the NuMu5 surprise the viewers and take down their General instead. Pepe thanks for the summary. Violators, tsk tsk.
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90. "Big Robert" |
Spike in face-time in the recap episode. Plus he and Tammy were the ones who finished "outing" the jury boot order in IC8.Alt: Zoe (recently returned from Oz, but still there was a confirmed weight loss which means she may outlast the other two NeverMaraa's). boo hiss the rule-breakers! WTG, Pepelepew, that summary was sooooooo fine!  Cap'n Zoe Just YoHoHoee!
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91. "Robert" |
Cause it appears that Tammy wins IC
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04-25-02, 04:28 PM (EST)
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92. "RE: Gotta go with the Zoe Ho." |
I think Kathy has had enough and they take her down this week.
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93. "Robert" |
Going with the flow here. Tammy wins IC, making Tammy unavailable for dishonorable discharge, Robert is heir apparent to the boot, so... General gets a 6 gun TC salute. (1 vote for Zoe from Tammy)
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94. "Generalisimo Roberto Decanio is dead!" |
Tammy wins immunity and the blended alliance knocks off the next best choice, Robert.
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103. "Robert" |
I think Zoe stays despite the hype.Still confused about Tammy and the IN. So he is the only one left. Alternate: Tammy 
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104. "Tammy..." |
...or Robert.
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105. "Robert" |
Well--I tried to deny it, but I have been convinced that Tammy actually wins IC two weeks in a row--and MB leaked it both times. This is very strange behavior on MB's part, but the evidence finally forced me to admit what I really did not want to believe. So, with Tammy winning IC, the obvious boot is Robert, her right hand General.
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107. "Robert" |
Tammy and Robert are IMHO the main two to consider by anyone's reasoning, and have been all week.Unless Kathy does something to pi$$ everyone off, she's safe, due to the Hollow Theory.
Vee is safe by a process of elimination: She's on the right side of the alliance, and they'd go for Sean before her anyway. Her fence straddling will be an issue for the future, I suspect.
For Paschal to go would require an unusual set of circumstances that just aren't feasable.
For Neleh to go would require some serious betrayals that I don't think are gonna happen. (My theory is a Kathy-Zoe-Neleh secret alliance to the end, btw.) This leaves:
Zoe: outside possibility to be ganged up on, a'la Brandon in S-III. But she's being featured too much, and OFG Theory and Hollow Theory suggest that she's safe.
Tammy: Very strong possibility. I'm not convinced the I.N. isn't MB misdirection, but she'll be HIGHLY motivated to win so it's very plausible that she does win. The fight with Zoe also brings her into the realm of the OFG and Hollow Theories. Sean: The Hollow Theory is tugging at me on this guy, and I even posted a thresd showing why he CAN be the boot. But the evidence that he stays around is just a bit too strong. However, I am in fact so suspicious of the way Sean's been edited recently that I'm picking Sean as my alternate (and I WILL take that "tie" mark if he's the one  ). Robert: OFG Theory does envelop the General like a warm blanket, and he did get face time in the recrap episode. Certainly he's one of the two main choices by anyone's reasoning. I don't see him being crafty enough to weasel a deal with anyone, and I don't see Tammy giving him the necklace. I can think of reasons he'd give Tammy the necklace, however. ("I can't go on, Tammy, but you can win it all... win one for the General, Tammy!"). TC will look like Appomattox Court House tonight as the General's final stand comes to naught. PepeLePew13, come on in to Summary Lodge. If dabo does not corral you into a curling match, you can sit in front of the wide-screen TV, watch cartoons of yourself, sip a nice beverage, and contemplate on an OUTSTANDING SUMMARY! *** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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108. "Robert" |
Once again, thanks to Krautboy for summing everything up so perfectly and completely.Thanks to Pepe for the great summary! I must say, the thresd is looking great! Might we possibly have NO violators to taunt next week? Good to see you, Supes! bebe
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04-25-02, 05:32 PM (EST)
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109. "Tammy" |
The necklace pic is all smoke and mirrors...
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110. "Robert" |
The new gang has got to get in a few pagongs. Tammy would be their 1st target, but she gets immunity.The most unpredictable thing has to be something else. Nelah and Zoe win the RC. Lots of immunity threats left - in fact, Paschal and maybe Vee are the only one's who really aren't. Go Kathy! --Specie
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112. "Robert" |
Because he actually said, "Because I'm the general and that's that." He should have that inked into his fat belly.Seems like vidcaps have Tammy with the necklace. Friction between T and Z does not suggest a continuing strong Rotu3 bond. Z could be out, but misdirection shows her as threatened, therefore safe. Robert is next. Real men may not wear pink but apparently they enjoy Crying Wuss John's company. AMF
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04-25-02, 05:49 PM (EST)
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114. "Robert" |
I believe Tammy wins IC so he's the next logical choice.
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Wacko Jacko 2438 desperate attention whore postings
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04-25-02, 06:01 PM (EST)
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115. "Paschal" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-25-02 AT 06:07 PM (EST)Edited to further explain reasoning. I like to be different. They say a shockers coming and Paschal would be the most likely shocker. He seemed awfully grumpy last week. I think he sees all the bickering and he just gives up. He's a judge and doesn't need the money. How's that for far out there.
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travelingbetty 296 desperate attention whore postings
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04-25-02, 06:13 PM (EST)
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117. "Tammy" |
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04-25-02, 06:20 PM (EST)
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118. "ZOE" |
Spike in face time = likely bootee after Tammy wins immunity.
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04-25-02, 06:23 PM (EST)
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119. "Sean 100%" |
He's the one that cant believe they're buying it ...as said on the cbs front page. And the power shift is P/N/T/R/N
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oldham1992 1 desperate attention whore postings
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04-25-02, 06:31 PM (EST)
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124. "zoe" |
thanks
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Lisapooh 12664 desperate attention whore postings
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04-25-02, 06:32 PM (EST)
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125. "Tammy" |
n/m
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volmel 362 desperate attention whore postings
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04-25-02, 06:32 PM (EST)
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126. "Tammy" |
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04-25-02, 06:47 PM (EST)
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130. "Robert......" |
I believe that the picture of Tammy with the Necklace is from this immunity challenge, and since I believe that she would be the first choice to get the boot, Robert seems like the most logical second choice. Unless we see something that states otherwise I think that the group of N/P/K/S/V are going to vote together here and he should be gone.
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echogirl 2120 desperate attention whore postings
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04-25-02, 07:29 PM (EST)
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137. "Paschal" |
Okay I admit I often get sucked into all of MB's hype. He is promising us unpredictable and after last week I don't think a Tammy or Robert boot qualifies. Why hype this episode up so much if it indeed follows logic? He also plays up the Power Shift, but as we know, having power puts you in a precarious position. Ask John. Or Hunter. Or Rob. Two Peas In A Pod is MB's chance to put Neleh & Paschal into the spotlight & power position. Do they get cocky? Or stupid? My bet is on the later. Zoe's defection. Zoe convinces Paschal and Neleh she is trustworthy. Paschal, disliking Sean, believes he now has the numbers to eliminate him figuring Tammy & Robert will still target Sean. Sean catches wind of this and challenges Paschal. Vecepia stays loyal to Sean. Vecepia clues T/R to their plans. But we do not have a tie. Kathy, feeling left out, now views Paschal, not Tammy as the new power player. She sides with S/V/T/R to oust Paschal. This qualifies as unpredictable. It also qualifies as unlikely which is why I never spoil! 
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Solitaire 103 desperate attention whore postings
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04-25-02, 07:38 PM (EST)
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139. "Robert" |
Alternate: Tammy
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04-25-02, 07:40 PM (EST)
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140. "Tammy" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-25-02 AT 07:44 PM (EST)Alt. Paschal or Robert Most Unpredictable Survivor Episode Ever Unlike sleeeve, I am naive enough to believe something truly surprising will happen this episode. Unlike Ice Cat, I believe the IN cap is real, but I feel it must be misleading in some other way. I think it will involve a shift in alliances, but we had a big shift last week, so this must be more unpredictable than that-- 1) how about an alliance that has it made to the Final Five falling apart, and one of the people who seemed safest last week gets the axe? 2) How about a tie vote with a whole other consequence, per MB? 3) How about the IC winner transferring immunity and getting the boot? I know that all roads point to Robert, and quite possibly he will go, but if he does, how will that be unpredictable? Do I think he wins a stilt-walking contest? Nah. And if he did, and was falling on his sword for Tammy, would he immediately hang the necklace on her? Wouldn't he make the switch at the last minute? I eliminated Zoe and Kathy primarily based on John's dislike of them and on story arc (none and all, respectively). I eliminated Sean as safe until family reward AND very predictable for non-spoilers, and Vee because Sean is her shield.
I spent most of today convincing myself the tables get unpredictable turned on Paschal or Neleh, the two P's, who are both on John's friends' list. I ended up with a theory that Paschal and Sean have a parting of the ways, that Kathy and Zoe strike a deal with S/V for Final 4 and boot Pappy to prove their alliance. Pappy was very favorably highlighted in the recap with his flag and pilgrim hat, and he says "you never know what's going to happen" in the promos. Kathy is not that tight with P/N. They have never liked her that much. She told Sean she thought she could get them, but was it because they listen to Kathy? No. They were on their own path, and became aware of their danger. They had abandoned Kathy to sign up for places with what they thought was the Rotu 6. Kathy is playing the game hard. She surely knows Sean is the ideal person to face in the F2! Sean, Vee, and Zoe--what a great Final 4 for Kathy. Therefore, I was all set to vote for Paschal as surprise boot. However, John's comment about "our demise" takes me back to Tammy and Robert. So I am going with Tammy winning immunity and giving it up for some agreement that she believes gives her the edge (as otherwise she is doomed as soon as she loses IC). Then it backfires on her. I think there may be a tie. I expect to see either an immunity transfer or a tiebreaker under the unknown rules, or both, to fulfill the hype. CBS can't use that much hyperbole to conceal a little Pagonging or they will never be able to cry wolf again ... This is my least confident vote of the season, and it looks like Shakes will be taunting me on the Spoiler Island update tonight, so I don't really want to taunt him here. Pepe, I love your writing but have been too busy to get over to Bashers. My bad. I hope to read your summary soon! 
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04-25-02, 07:50 PM (EST)
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141. "TAMMY...." |
Reasons? Because EPB "gave us" a vid pic of Tammy wearing the Immunity Necklace; which means she is SAFE?? Humpft, too easy. Great Summary Pepe LePew!! Dalton
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