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"Re: Spoiler--a HOAX!!!"
Teddy_Bear 1675 desperate attention whore postings
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04-19-02, 07:06 AM (EST)
 
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"Re: Spoiler--a HOAX!!!" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-20-02 AT 02:59 AM (EST)According to Surviiivor.com,
"A SurvivorSucks poster, (who) claimed to have written the (Oceanus) spoiler, (is now calling it) a hoax." "However, many online fans still believe in it
because it also states that items from the set were being shipped to Manhattan, and CBS recently announced that MARQUESES' reunion show would take place there, not in Los Angelas . . ." Now that John's torch has been snuffed, and Tammy seems to be the next likely target
(unless, she wins immunity--or has it tranferred to her) --which would fit in perfectly with this "HOAX?"
--except (of course), for the boot order; what are we to believe? There are pictures of John and Tammy, next to each other, on a Cruise Ship. Could this just be mere co-incidence? Since this so-called hoax, had been perpertrated in February; why is the poster, who created it; suddenly refferring to it, as a hoax?
According to the article,
the poster-in-question; only starting doing this
"in the past few days,"--which would be about a week,or so, now. Was the said poster, lying in February; or is he/she lying now? Why create and maintain a "hoax," for over 3 months,
and (for no apparent reason) suddenly deny it? Hmmmm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . There is a thesd, titled "RUMOR ALERT," posted by jkokoj on the ARCHIVES, on pg. 108. It goes into more detail regarding this spoiler. *Note: edited becase I found more information about this topic in the spoiler archives. 
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shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings
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04-22-02, 03:36 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: I'm not so sure it's a Hoax" |
>But 8 & 9 makes perfect
>sense. Maybe they just
>messed the boot order up.
> You can't argue that
>on the surface either Tammy
>or Sean is going this
>week.
...what part of "CONFIRMED HOAX" does not make sense to you??? They didn't mess up any boot order or dates, they simply got lucky in that the spoiler was w/i two boots of being correct with John. And, the person who authored the spoiler came out and admitted it was a hoax even before last week's ep.....then, when that person saw that he actually got one somewhat right he tried to claim that maybe it wasn't a hoax after all.
> You can't argue that
>on the surface either Tammy
>or Sean is going this
>week.
....sure you can! Just like YOU told us we were all crazy for suggesting Gaybe was getting the boot when he did, and just like you came out saying that there is no way Rotu was breaking up last week. I think, based on your less than stellar spoiling record this season, maybe you need to be a little more open minded to ALL the possibilities for any given episode.
Also, I would argue that the two people you mentioned are the two SAFEST people this week, based on the vidcap evidence and teh SNewser spoiler. IMO the most likely candidates "on the surface" are Zzzzzz and Robert...but, of course I'm only 7-1 this season in predicting the boot so what do I know. 
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Wacko Jacko 2438 desperate attention whore postings
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04-23-02, 11:04 AM (EST)
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29. "It may or may not be. Here's my reasoning." |
LAST EDITED ON 04-23-02 AT 04:15 PM (EST)I believe that Burnett plants a lot of spoilers to get us all going. He plants some spoilers to make the actual spoilers seem more doubtful. I would bet that Burnett has people or even himself come on here and say stuff like this spoiler is a hoax or say things like "I was just at the airport and saw Kathy at JFK". I am not saying I buy the spoiler but I can't say I definately think it is a hoax. It could be true. John is gone and Tammy is a definate possiblity for the next boot. Yes, my record aint great but I don't live on this board like you. I am a casual observer. So what. I am sorry Shakes I am not as good as you. You are the "clown". I bow to you. How many hours a day are you on this site anyways?
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Kokoro 3899 desperate attention whore postings
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04-20-02, 12:34 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Re: Spoiler--a HOAX!!!" |
Would this be the picture of Asian Tammy with major breast enhancement surgery?And about the Gabe photo: We don't know where it was taken.
We don't know it was actually him.
We don't know when it was taken. ----------------------------------------
Now let us never speak of S3 again. Don't worry y'all, Gina and Bob will be back just in time for the final 3.  
Stop Discrimination Now
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Teddy_Bear 1675 desperate attention whore postings
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04-21-02, 06:32 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Re: Spoiler--a HOAX!!!" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-21-02 AT 06:41 AM (EST)On SurvivorFever.com, there are pictures of Tammy, Gabe, Peter, etc. The picture of Peter shows him chatting with Marquesian locals.
I believe it is him (among other reasons--see below) because, of his distinctive, goofy, smile. >Would this be the picture of
>Asian Tammy with major breast
>enhancement surgery? No  (see above). >And about the Gabe photo: I'm not exactly sure what relevance this has to this thresd;
however, An anonymous photographer (no connection, to the infamous Oceanus spoiler),
sent 2 pictures to SurvivorFever in eary February.
He/She alledges that these pictures are of Peter and Gabe. I believe, you are referring to the picture of Gabe, sailing. >We don't know where it was
>taken. The anonymous photographer, alledges it was somewhere in the Marquesas.
>We don't know it was actually
>him. I've compared this photo with other one's; both in Gabriel Cade's Photo Gallery
in SurvivorHunks.com,
and the pictures, in the photo gallery
in GabrielCadeOnline.com. IMHO, it certainly looks a lot like him.
>We don't know when it was
>taken. According to the anonymous photographer;
the picture of Gabe was shot, sometime in late November (2001).
This info. was on S\F's Website, long before Ep.5. According to the SF calender; Ep. 5--which Gabe was booted,
took place on the 26th of November;
which supports the anonymous source's claims. The poster {of the Cruise Ship, spoiler fame (--which has absolutely nothing to do with,
either Peter, Patricia, Hunter, Sarah, Gabe, nor Gina)},
who is now denying his/her own "spoiler,"
was predicting from early February (before, the show, even aired) until about approximately 2 weeks ago;
that John and Tammy got booted mid-game. I read the article on Surviivor.com a few days, before Ep. 8, aired; I'm mentioning it now due to the surprise, power shift. It would be an eerie co-incidence, IMO, if Tammy (does indeed) go next; don't you think?
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings
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04-21-02, 04:14 PM (EST)
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11. "Zoomed In..." |
I really don't think so.
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Cathy the Canadian 599 desperate attention whore postings
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04-22-02, 02:23 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Zoomed In..." |
yeah, I don't know why this picture is even significant, but the guy second from the right looks a little like Hunter.
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings
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04-21-02, 04:36 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Re: Spoiler--a HOAX!!!" |
I don't believe there is any picture of John and Tammy together on a cruise ship. There is the picture that is supposed to be Tammy. ( I don't think it is) There is the Cruise ship hoax (John and Tammy on a cruise ship) No picture of this exists, it is a hoax, and so are the pictures. What this has turned into is a huge game of telephone tag. The person that started this admits it was a HOAX. This person also claims to be behind the pictures (Tammy, Gabe, Peter) as well.Now, I have a question, the SNews Sean spoiler states "Sean was alive and kicking in the second week of December" http://www.survivornews.net/article?id=18 Nowhere does this SNews spoiler mention anything about Sean winning a challenge involving a visit from home. However, I continue to see posts stating that SNews says that Sean stays until he wins RC. Is there another SNews Sean spoiler that I haven't seen, that mentions a Sean RC win, or is this it? Then we have the TP article- One of the castaway won a "challenge" and one of his dreams will come true. The "Survivor producers" enabled his parents to fly all the way to the Marquesas islands. They will arrive thursday, December 13th. The castaway who won the "challenge" will leave "his tribe" for just one evening. He will be allowed to take a hot shower - the first shower in 33 days! - and will have dinner with his parents. It will certainly be an enormous dinner. The castaway will return friday to the Hakapaa valley and try to be the only castaway left at the end of the game. He would then win 1 million US$. This will allow him to get lots of hot showers and good meals http://www.claycritters.com/map/survivor_4_tahitipresse.htm#hot_shower This article does not mention Sean, it has been assumed that it's Sean do to the gender (which is questionable considering that it's been translated) and that its a parents visit. These are 2 separate spoilers from 2 different sources that have been lumped together. (another telephone tag type problem) If there is anything more about these Sean spoilers, I'd like to see a link. Anybody have one?
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True friends stab you in the front -Oscar Wilde
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erikman 324 desperate attention whore postings
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04-21-02, 07:34 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Re: Spoiler--a HOAX!!!" |
i think the person who saw tammy and john did not watch the show
and did not know of jury seperation and messed the date by 3 days. he got the set moving to newyork. so i'm voteing for tammy to go
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shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings
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04-21-02, 07:57 PM (EST)
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15. "hey smart guy..." |
>i think the person who saw
>tammy and john did not
>watch the show
>and did not know of jury
>seperation and messed the date
>by 3 days. he got
>the set moving to newyork. ....do you understand the meaning of the word "HOAX"? It means fake, that the story was made up....therefore, there was NO guy who saw Tammy and John, the story was a fake therefore the eyewitness is about as real as the Madhatter, Pinocchio, Dumbo, Woody & Buzz Lightyear or any other fairy tale character you would prefer. If you persist in believing this "spoiler" or any part thereof, even after it was admitted by its author to be a hoax, then you are simply an idiot. Good luck with that.
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings
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04-22-02, 02:01 AM (EST)
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17. "Just Asking" |
Does anyone know who the SurvivorSucks poster was and whether he/she was a relatively new poster? I only ask because of the curious timing where a newbie Blows poster claimed he had been perpetrating a hoax of some inexplicable sort. I always thought the "Oceanus" spoiler was dubious, frankly, but that's no reason to rule out Tammy as the next boot, only a reason to rule out the "Oceanus" spoiler as being in any way important.
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Teddy_Bear 1675 desperate attention whore postings
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04-22-02, 03:43 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Just Asking" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-22-02 AT 04:59 AM (EST)I totally agree, Dabo, and being new to spoiling (despite my DAW level),
I did not present my main speculation,
in a clear, understandable manner. I apologise to the posters for being, unintentionally confusing, and organizing my speculaton, in such a way that served to misdirected rather than clarify my argument. According to the article I quoted,
many people are not willing to give up on this spoiler
--despite incorrect room numbers, innaccuracy of boot order,
and even the claims of the author of this spoiler, that it is a hoax. I honestly believed, that I did see a picture,
several weeks ago of John and Tammy boarding a cruise ship;
since, no one can find this photo,
my memory must be playing tricks on me. The picture that Sweetpea was gracious enough to upload.
was not the picture that I thought I remembered. I am sincerely greatful for your post; however,
because, you seemed to be one the few people,
who has responded to me thus far;
that appears to understand my intention,
of starting this threasd. I never said that I considered the spoiler to be the Gospel truth--by any stretch of the imagination. My main reason for starting this threasd,
was to speculate on the merits--
or, as some of you would prefer to say, lack there of
--of this particular spoiler. As previously stated, I read the article (mentioned in my original post) a few days prior to Ep. 8, airing.
At the time, I took it at face value;
as it did not appear that John and Tammy
were going anywhere, anytime soon. Since the spoiler had correctly predicted John
being booted mid-game, and Tammy, likely being next
--barring her receiving immunity, of course;
I became obsessed with the obvious question:
what are the odds of someone perpetuating a hoax,
and it coming partially true? I am of the opinion--and still do--find it too co-incidental;
that this spoiler could have guessed so accuratly
--in early February (Yes, I know that the boot order is NOT accurate, but extremely close, nonetheless.)
that John would get voted off, mid-game. For the sake of argument, let's say
that the spoiler, did in fact, fabricate this whole theory,
as he/she has claimed, and it really is entirely a fluke
that the most basic essence of this spoiler,
just happens to co-incide with reality. Let's go as far as to claim, as many of you have stated;
that it is a hoax, and therefore, utter nonsense . . . The very fact that this spoiler correctly predicted
John and possibly Tammy's demise,
does not make this spoiler true. The point is hoax or not, he/she guessed correctly
that John would exit, mid-game before the show even aired.
If the cruise ship aspect of this spoiler has no validity; the spoiler, nevertheless, came to the right conclusion,
and if it is indeed a hoax; then, he/she arrived at it by different means, than the one originally stated. Thus, the methods, of which the speculation was based on,
could be a hoax, but not the underlying prediction. If Tammy hangs around for one more week;
then I will attribute this prediction to,
nothing more than a lucky guess. If she is in fact booted; then,
even if the spoiler is a hoax,
its author, would have to be, either clairavoyant,
or more likely, IMO, have an inside source.
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