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"Episode 10 Title: The Princess"
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brenda1234 24 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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04-16-02, 11:03 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Don't send her away!" |
I don't get it. Does that mean that the "spoiler" is saying Paschel is going this week and then Neleh??? That sucks!
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Tatina 112 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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04-16-02, 11:06 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Don't send her away!" |
Well, since there seems to be some people who speculate on Neleh being booted this week this would actually be good news to all the Neleh fans. If "The Princess" refered to her, she would be safe for at least two episodes and would actually make the final 7.
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Cathy the Canadian 599 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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04-16-02, 11:06 AM (EST)
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4. "John has Lex syndrome" |
While it seems Neleah is too obvious a choice as to who this title refers to, it does make sense.I think John has Lex syndrome, in that he's too paranoid. Did you see his face at t.c.? He smiled at the first vote against him, but he looked a little surprised at the second. I think when they get back, he has a talk with Sean about it, and Sean convinces him that he didn't do it. Who does that leave? Since he knows Kathy voted for Zoe, that leaves Pachcal and Neleah. I think John is the one that accuses Neleah of lying, thinking she voted for him, which leads to the teaser scene of her telling Pachcal that she's been nothing but honest. Who else would accuse her of lying? So, this would mean that: "The Jury's Out" is just about the jury being formed. "Two Peas in a Pod" has to be Neleah and Pachcal. "The Princess" has to be Neleah. Maybe this all seems too obvious, but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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steppingrazor42 283 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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04-16-02, 05:10 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: John has Lex syndrome" |
I agree with you 100% about what the episode titles mean.... if "2 Peas in a Pod" HAS TO refer to N&P, so then they would be safe this week.....who goes next? Kathy? Maybe John's Lex syndrone will back fire and people will turn against him. Although would they have 2 episode titles in a row refer to Neleh? Is it possible Vee starts getting cocky that she's made it to the final 7 and begins acting like the "princess" of the group? it's possible....
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Teddy_Bear 1675 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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04-17-02, 07:56 AM (EST)
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35. "RE: Sean (John has Lex syndrome)" |
If I'm not mistaken, I believe, I distinctly heard Sean yelling at John --something to the effect of (expletives deleted); "You dissed my boy, Rob." "We shared some moments . . ." "You hurt my feelings."IMO, while King John may have been surprised that another one of his minions had "betrayed" him; I'm sure, he figured out, it was Sean--who cast that 2nd vote. While, John my be a power-hungry, paranoid, and arrogant; he's not that stupid.
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Cathy the Canadian 599 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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04-16-02, 12:00 PM (EST)
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7. "I like it!" |
I like your thinking, but would this be too unpolitically correct for MB to try? Then again, he loves to stir it up and get people talking. Any press is good press right?
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mindysue 39 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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04-16-02, 01:26 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Longshot but..." |
The title would be "The Queen" for it to refer to John. I don't think even MB would be that unPC.
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heavymettle 57 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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04-17-02, 06:45 AM (EST)
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33. "RE: Longshot but..." |
He's far from a queen, mindysue. Being gay doesn't automatically qualify you as effeminate.
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bergdogg 380 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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04-16-02, 12:18 PM (EST)
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8. "It doesn't "HAVE" to mean they get voted off" |
One thing I find interesting about these titles is that the logical choices about them is that they concern Neleh and Pappy.I know this may just be me, but maybe in some impossible way, form, or fashion, Neleh and Pappy are able to take control of the game. Like let's say this episode, either Sean or Vee are iven their walking papers. Then when it is tied up, Neleh and Pappy do realize that they are dead meat without Kathy and the last Moo. They get them to side against teh evil alliance, and when the vote goes 4-4 at tribal counsel, and N/P/K/last Moo are able to beat one of J/R/T/Z in the tie breaker (more or likely this is where Zoe or John would take a hike). Then in "The Princess" episode, someone refers to Pappy as the king of the island, and Neleh as his princess. I just wanted to point out that the title of the episode doesn't necessarily mean that they are taking a hike on that episode. It is a real good way of figuring out that they last out, though. Will you please take "I would like to f**k Maralyn 'Mad Dog' Hershey" off of your profile.
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Kokoro 3899 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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04-16-02, 12:26 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Episode 10 Title: The Princess" |
Doesn't necessarily have to be Neleh....Tammy/Zoe/Kathy/Vee could be the princess.... And Neleh's the pea that's pissing her off? "The Princess and the Pea" ---------------------------------------- Now let us never speak of S3 again. Don't worry y'all, Gina and Bob will be back just in time for the final 3. Stop Discrimination Now
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PagongRatEater 12996 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-16-02, 01:14 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Episode 10 Title: The Princess" |
Interesting thought, but it may be a little obtuse for the general viewing public.
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Teddy_Bear 1675 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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04-17-02, 11:08 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: Episode 10 Title: The Princess" |
I agree. The speculation about Ep. 9 referring only to Neleh/Pashal, and Ep. 10 referring soley to Neleh, is just more See-BS Misdirectection by EPMB. I'm not saying that these titles have no relation to them; just that they're other possibilities. I agree with Kokoro, that these titles have more than one meaning, and refer to other contestants. In Ep. 7, Tammy was shown being massauged by Neleh, and having her hair braided by Vee--just like (a queen, Cleopatra, or) a princess. Since, a princess is considered to be a member of the Royal family--in this case, the Rotu 4; the likely "subject" of this title, IMHO, is Tammy.
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MikeD 344 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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04-16-02, 12:30 PM (EST)
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10. "THIS DOESNT HAVE TO DO WITH..." |
Tribal Council, I'll bet. I'll bet Neleh, Tammy, John or whoever is left wins the reward challenge and gets a night on a yacht or something like that and are treated like a princess.
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heavymettle 57 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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04-17-02, 06:50 AM (EST)
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34. "RE: THIS DOESNT HAVE TO DO WITH..." |
This is a really tough call this week. The JRTZ alliance is still holding up. It seems like Sean will side with whoever will keep him from having to think or work. Sister Vecepia, the Virgin of Marquesas, is also aligning herself with the perceived power brokers. After last week's scene with Zoe, Kathy and Rob and the tease for this week's show with Zoe and Kathy having a heart-to-heart, I think Zoe will get tired of the vibe and might put a hit out on Kathy among her alliance-mates.Paschal allows his loyalty to Neleh to keep him from playing the game and Neleh is only just now figuring out that her days are probably numbered. Neither of them cares one way or the other about Kathy now, so she's a woman without an island. This episode is called "Two Peas In A Pod." It's been shown in vidcaps that Tammy wins the IC. Prior to that, I think John wins the RC. He'll take Tammy with him on the underwater adventure to forge a new alliance -- they're the two peas. If I was immune like Tammy, I'd form a secret alliance with John. Then, I'd convince the rest of the JTRZ alliance that we should go after Paschal just to break up that voting block and to upset Neleh's confidence. That'd leave Vecepia, Sean, Kathy and Neleh all operating mostly as free agents. They'd all be prime pickins then to add to the JTRZ alliance to get rid of whoever's left over. Personally, after lopping of the head of Judge Paschal, I'd have Zoe pressure Neleh into joining the group. It's be fun to screw with her head and she's no competition when it comes to challenges. Then I guess I'd probably vote her off immediately and feed on Sean, then Kathy and then V. I'm just wondering what will happen if it comes down to the JRKT alliance having to feed on itself. I guess it always comes down to the ICs.
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-16-02, 12:33 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Episode 10 Title: The Princess" |
While y'all are going crazy trying to figure out what this title means, I'm going to throw out a very small bone to ya.These titles are NOT all that involved when trying to spoil the bootee. Rarely does a title directly reflect who the bootee is, and if it DOES reflect the bootee, it's in such a subtle way that you'll never guess it in advance AND such titles usually have a double meaning (like "the End of Innocence" meant not only Gabe's boot, but Rotu attending its first TC; also, Gina's boot as she was one of the "Underdogs", but there WERE more underdogs." I am willing to bet (a small sum, like a good shot of Scotch) that the IC is going to be one of JP's little stories. The contestants will go around, trying to find keys to locks and such (like when Colby beat Keith in S-II because Keith dropped a lock), or bandannas for their poles (like when Lex beat Frank in S-III), and whoever gets unlocked or all five bandannas will win IC. The story will be about some Polynesian Princess, ergo the title of the story. Any takers? *** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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MikeD 344 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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04-16-02, 12:35 PM (EST)
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12. "NACHO MAMA..." |
I dont think the "princess" pertains to the bootee Dawg, but this title clearly was about Patricia.
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GuessItRains 700 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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04-16-02, 12:43 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Episode 10 Title: The Princess" |
Well the initial spec seems to be the title refers to Neleh in some way. I agree that is most likely, but it might be helpful to go through logically to see if there are any other possibilities.* Clearly this does not refer to Pappy, Robert, or Sean. * John is a longshot, but you never know. Somebody in the game (most likely Sean) could refer to him as a princess making everybody else take directions. * I don't think either Zoe or Vee is likely to be thought of as a princess. We all know how Vee abhors drama and Zoe seems uncomfortable with confrontation. They are also a little old to be playing the princess role. * Kathy certainly has the dramatic flair to be a princess, but most likely she will be gone by E10. I doubt it's her. * Could it be Tammy? She's the second youngest player left and is widely rumored to win the E8 IC. If so, maybe she could go on an immunity streak winning her an RC sleeping on a feather bed or something (and perhaps an IC to boot). * Neleh of course acts like a sweet little princess much of the time. But even if the episode focuses on her, it doesn't mean she will necessarily get the boot. Indeed, if her Pappy has just been booted it's hard to see why she would act like a princess or change her attitude in some way.
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MeToo 158 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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04-16-02, 01:30 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Episode 10 Title: The Princess" |
To elaborate on some of these: > >* John is a longshot, but >you never know. Somebody in >the game (most likely Sean) >could refer to him as >a princess making everybody else >take directions. Rob already called him a girl. > >* I don't think either Zoe >or Vee is likely to >be thought of as a >princess. We all know how >Vee abhors drama and Zoe >seems uncomfortable with confrontation. Vee's manor of keeping her hands clean may give her a "princess" aura of sorts. I wouldn't rule her out - there are still 2 episodes before this airs. > >* Kathy certainly has the dramatic >flair to be a princess, >but most likely she will >be gone by E10. I >doubt it's her. If Sean goes this week, Paschal or Neleh next week, Kathy could be E10, though despite the dramatic flair, I still don't see her as a princess even in a sarcastic way. >* Neleh of course acts like >a sweet little princess much >of the time. But even >if the episode focuses on >her, it doesn't mean she >will necessarily get the boot. >Indeed, if her Pappy has >just been booted it's hard >to see why she would >act like a princess or >change her attitude in some >way. Wouldn't it be incredibly boring if the boot order went Sean, Pascal, Neleh (or K, P, N) in that order? If that's the case, MB would be smarter to highlight some other aspect of the show. The significance of this title will be clearer once we know who's booted off this week.
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-17-02, 06:38 AM (EST)
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31. "RE: Episode 10 Title: The Princess" |
Dawg, I like your thinking,So do I, thankyouverymuch! but IMO, I don't know if they would use a challenge to name an episode. Oh, this is something I absolutely think they would do. Innocuous title that spoilers will pull their hair out about. George O'Leary Rules Really? Can I see a copy of his resume?
*** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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bigdog 6 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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04-16-02, 03:01 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Episode 10 Title: The Princess" |
I know I was supposed to post this to the link about John's paranoia, but I'm new here. I really can't see John not trusting Neleh. Even if Sean is able to convince John that Neleh voted against him, you know John couldn't keep his mouth shut, and it would get back to Neleh. Neleh would probably break down in a teary mess, and Neleh doesn't seem the type of person to fake cry. Inturn, it could make John look really evil and create a whole other story line. I agree with up above that princess is probably a reward, but it would be hillarious if it did refer to John!
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Mokele Membe 11 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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04-16-02, 06:41 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Episode 10 Title: The Princess" |
Here's another angle of The Princess and the Pea - Starring Kathy:In the story, the Pricess was so sensitive that she could feel a pea placed under her mattress, it would keep her awake all night. Now, who is the most sensitive person in the merged tribe? -Kathy Then we've seen an upset Neleh, little Sweet-pea. Could Kathy get it in her head that Neleh is out to get her? Might Kathy take her lying inquisition to Nelah's doorstep? Much more likely than the Zoe scenario!
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weltek 16936 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-17-02, 04:52 PM (EST)
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38. "Good find" |
Hm, not sure how "up" MB & his staff are on this, but seeing as it is the media industry, sure, someone may have thought of this clever title for the episode. Frankly, I like your find!
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steppingrazor42 283 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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04-17-02, 06:13 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: from "Finding the Holy Grail"" |
I love it!!! I hope the episode IS focused on Zoe...man that would be pretty damn clever of the MB staff to come up with that one. Maybe her # will be up.........
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