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"Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities"
margox 13 desperate attention whore postings
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"Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
It has been so unfair on the other contestants that Romber are so recognized. They get all kinds of advantages. They were even showing their survivor series when they were in one country. Like Rob said the guy was really pumped just to be with them. If they win and they probably will, it will because of all the help they got from people who wanted to be photographed with them. They didn't have to do any work looking for the children's items for the orphanage. They have won one vacation after another. I hope Uch and her husband get some kind of recognition. They are the winners in my book. What a great couple.
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05-05-05, 11:12 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
I don't think Rob and Amber are obtaining help because of their celeberty status. Survivor is not shown world wide. I think that ROMBER can play the game!!! They are able to talk people into helping them. Maybe, other teams could learn from them!!!!! The reason that the # of viewers are up is because ROMBER is on the show!!!! I loved them in Survivor and watch TAR & because I like them.
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05-05-05, 11:24 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/User_files/41a4f96a236809ae.html
I totally agree with you.
R/A are the most strategic persons we ever had on TAR (Colin/Christie come in second). They use everything and everyone they possibly can and that's the way the game should be played.
R/K are good when following R/A.
U/J are good and nice people playing like Chip/Kim (easy going).
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nazzWord 60 desperate attention whore postings
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05-12-05, 09:45 PM (EST)
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91. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
Must agree with Cahaya. They even show it in India if I'm not mistaken hence explaining why it so easy to get help from locals there. But i think maybe there, its an exceptional case where they are overall are very helpful. I'm from KL too Cahaya.
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05-05-05, 03:09 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Cuts both ways" |
a legion of loyal fans Oh, please. That's certainly overstating it. Their celebrity may have helped them in some situations, but no more or less than they have in other countries where they haven't been recognized. In those countries, Rob and Amber still found help, and if no one had recognized them the entire time, if they were complete nobodies in terms of fame, then they -still- would have made connections with locals. You hate them, we get it, but let's stick to what really, honestly is true, and not made up stuff like "a legion" of Romber fans crawling out of the woodwork to help this beloved team. Please. 
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Ratboy 79 desperate attention whore postings
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05-06-05, 01:32 AM (EST)
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28. "RE: Cuts both ways" |
I'll try my best to answer your question Spidey, but first, I want to get some things out of the way.Farther down on the thread, a link was posted that listed other times when teams utilized help in completing tasks. That is not a good comparison in my book. When the teams used help riding the bikes, or rowing the boats, that was to complete a single task. Rob and Amber have used help to the extent that they have been chauffeured around Lima, Jo'Burg, Jodipur, and now London. Teams have always used local help, but never before to this level where the escort is doing more work than the racing team, most blatantly this last detour, which was called "Brains" and did not involve Rob or Amber using their brains one bit to complete the detour. Second, for some people like me, I don't watch TAR to cheer on a particular team. Only once in all seven seasons have I cheered for a team to win, and that was Kris and John. I've cheered against teams, but not really for them. I watch TAR to see the locations and to see how these Americans react to them. We don't get that from Rob and Amber. They don't react or adapt like the other teams. Watching Rob and Amber race, for me, has been extremely boring, and I am very happy that other teams do not follow that practice. Which brings me to my grand point. I consider getting this much outside help cheap and underhanded. I know it isn't against the rules, but I still think it's cheap. I liken it to stealing signs in baseball. Stealing signs is not against the rules, but it is considered cheap and is disrespected. For those of you who know baseball, you know the story of the 1960 World Series. Pittsburgh vs. the Yankees. Pittsburgh won the Series on a 9th inning, Game Seven, home run, and is considered one of the greatest moments in baseball history. Bill Mazeroski hit the home run to win it. Ever since he hit that home run, Pittsburgh players were accused of stealing signs and knowing what pitch was coming. A few years ago, when Mazeroski was elected to the Hall of Fame, he finally admitted that yes, he was tipped off to what pitch was coming by Pittsburgh stealing signs. In response to this, baseball purists, like me, just shook our heads and basically said, that really diminishes that accomplishment and takes away from that historical moment. I'm sure Pittsburgh fans didn't care, and maybe Mazeroski didn't either, but it was a big deal to baseball fans and historians. I get the same feeling when I watch Rob and Amber race. To their fans, just like Pittsburgh fans, I'm sure that they don't care, because they are successful doing it. But to TAR fans, we feel that they are taking something away from the race, a crucial element that makes this show so neat and exciting. Rob and Amber are great racers, but I can't help but feel that by getting so much help it has diminished their accomplishment and put a stain on them, whether it involves racing, or hitting a home run. So to answer your question, and your attempted response of "Because the other teams didn't think to do it." It's not that the other teams didn't think to do it, in my opinion, but that the other racers don't want to do it that way. They want to race on their own, and win or lose on their own. This season in particular I believe has been filled with teams who are fans of the show, such as Debbie and Bianca, Lynn and Alex, Uchenna and Joyce, and especially Gretchen and Meredith. And I think that is where the unforeseen level of contempt for another team has come from, this season directed at Rob and Amber. It seems that these teams didn't believe that Rob and Amber were here for the race, but for a different reason. And for the teams that I mentioned, if they don't win, I think they will still be happy. I don't think the same goes for Rob and Amber, (or at least, not even close to the extent of the other racers). So I just think it comes down to different goals for the different teams. Good talking to you again, Spidey. (And this time, I know you're female, so I won't be making that mistake again.) But I will leave you with this from Shakespeare, "Then with the losers let it sympathize. For nothing can seem foul to those that win." I think that sums up Rob and Amber (and their fans) very well. They win, so nothing they do seems bad. But there are others out there with a different view on the victors, and how it feels as if they have taken an element away from a show that we care very much about.
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Spidey 6259 desperate attention whore postings
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05-06-05, 10:33 AM (EST)
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32. "RE: Cuts both ways" |
Thank you for your answer. I can most certainly respect your opinion (as long as you donb't cry "CBS plant!"  ), but I must heartily disagree.I consider getting this much outside help cheap and underhanded. I think it's resourceful. I can't see how it is underhanded when they aren't hiding the fact of what they are doing and it's not as if the other teams couldn't do the same thing. Jonathan did it on at least on leg last season and he wasn't a "celebrity." Most of the people that help have no idea who Rob and Amber are and just want to be on tv, or be nice, or earn some cash, or have something to do for the day. This season in particular I believe has been filled with teams who are fans of the show ... It seems that these teams didn't believe that Rob and Amber were here for the race, but for a different reason. Rob & Amber are HUGE fans of the show. That's why they begged to be on it. Given their Suvivor history, they are both obviously adventurous, competetive and like being on reality shows. You have to admit they seem to be truly enjoying themselves on this race. Personally, I think they were peeved because they knew they had strong competition in both the race and for "star billing." Theya re all DAWs. Either that, or they were Lex fans. "Then with the losers let it sympathize. For nothing can seem foul to those that win." I think that sums up Rob and Amber (and their fans) very well. They win, so nothing they do seems bad. To me, it's a GAME. The point is to do your very best within the rules to win. There have been a LOT of contestants in TAR who were much nastier, unlikable people who did and said much worse than using all available resources to stay ahead. If Rob & Amber win, I will be thrilled. They have run the best race and have entertained me all season, so they deserve it in my book. I would also be happy with Uchenna and Joyce winning. While they are not the best racers, they seem to be terrific people who deserve to have good things happen to them. And I think you are wrong that Rob & Amber won't be happy if they don't win. Disappointed sure, but they had a great time on the race and have a bright future ahead of them. What's not to be happy about?   
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Ratboy 79 desperate attention whore postings
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43. "RE: Cuts both ways" |
>Thank you for your answer.
>I can most certainly respect
>your opinion (as long as
>you donb't cry "CBS plant!"
>), but I must heartily
>disagree.It is crazy to believe that the help Rob and Amber have received from strangers are plants by CBS.
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>I consider getting this much outside
>help cheap and underhanded.
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>I think it's resourceful. I
>can't see how it is
>underhanded when they aren't hiding
>the fact of what they
>are doing and it's not
>as if the other teams
>couldn't do the same thing.
> Jonathan did it on
>at least on leg last
>season and he wasn't a
>"celebrity." Underhanded was a bad word, and I take it back. It alludes to an act that is illegal or unethical, and Rob and Amber are not guilty of that. So I take back underhanded, but stand by my assertion that it is a cheap way to race. And also, I don't see the point of you pointing out of Jonathan doing the same practice. I didn't think much of him when he did it then, and I don't think much of Rob and Amber doing it. But I think Rob and Amber, and Jonathan, come from the same outlook of winning first, while other racers on that edition come from the different outlook of racing on their own for a sense of accomplishment. >Rob & Amber are HUGE fans
>of the show. That's
>why they begged to be
>on it. Given their
>Suvivor history, they are both
>obviously adventurous, competetive and like
>being on reality shows.
>You have to admit they
>seem to be truly enjoying
>themselves on this race. We only have Rob and Amber's word on this, and I doubt that they are HUGE fans. I am willing to bet that they have seen one or two other installments of the race. That's it. Also, I think they begged to be on it for more exposure, and also to have fun. And admittingly, I don't get the vibe that they are enjoying themselves. For the most part, they've seemed all business, and I can only remember two instances when either one of them seemed to just stop and take in the experience: in Botswana, and then in India. To me, it seems, win first, exposure second, and having fun a distant third.
>To me, it's a GAME.
>The point is to do
>your very best within the
>rules to win. There
>have been a LOT of
>contestants in TAR who were
>much nastier, unlikable people who
>did and said much worse
>than using all available resources
>to stay ahead. I don't dislike Rob and Amber. You can't compare Rob and Amber to past racers like Colin or Jonathan, because they were obnoxious and mean. Rob isn't either one of those. I am just viewing Rob and Amber through how I enjoy the race. I remember at the end of the last race when Phil was on the Early Show and talking about what he loves most about the race, and he said it was the racers interactions with where they go, and he singled out India especially. But how has Rob and Amber reacted and adapted to where they go? They get someone to tag along with them to handle their problems. Rob and Amber reacted to Lima, Peru and Jodipur, India the very same way, and to me, that's boring. In fact, Rob and Amber, in my opinion, rank right up there with David and Jeff from Season Four as the most boring team of racers to ever make it this far. There is just nothing appealing about them on the Race. So I guess Rob and Amber must have done something spectacular on Survivor to get such a large following, because I just don't see it on the Race. >If Rob & Amber win, I
>will be thrilled. They have
>run the best race and
>have entertained me all season,
>so they deserve it in
>my book. Well, I already talked about the entertaining aspect, so I'll quick talk about how they race. Undoubtedly, they have raced the best race so far this season. But what happened this last episode is what finally drove me to post. It was the detour and the help they received from Stewart. It was with his help that I feel they crossed the line between using outside help to complete a task faster (which I concede is a legitimate strategy) to using outside help just to complete a task. It may have been the first time in TAR history that a team finished a task without doing a single thing to complete it, and it smacked of sheer laziness on their part. They never even considered to attempt that task on their own. All what that task consisted of was getting a clue, being told where to find the next clue, and setting off to get that clue. They didn't need his help, but he led them around and they contributed nothing to the task. And that is where I am coming from by saying that they are boring to watch. They have raced so well, and shown that they can race well without help, but a sizable chunk of their accomplishments are the result of outside help and not their own hard work. And I think that is where a lot of the Anti-Rob contigent is coming from. For people who watch both TAR and Survivor, or who just started watching TAR because of Rob and Amber, you're going to love them. More power to you. But for those of us who love TAR and what it is, and have either no exposure to Rob and Amber or just don't care about them, a lot of us feel that Rob and Amber have taken away something from the race, and in the process, cheapened it by getting by while doing the least amount of work possible. We want them to work hard for their reward and earn it, and even considering how well they've raced, I just don't feel they've earned it.
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Jenna_F 310 desperate attention whore postings
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05-07-05, 01:06 AM (EST)
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44. "RE: Cuts both ways" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-07-05 AT 01:08 AM (EST)Quote:
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We only have Rob and Amber's word on this, and I doubt that they are HUGE fans. I am willing to bet that they have seen one or two other installments of the race. That's it. Also, I think they begged to be on it for more exposure, and also to have fun. And admittingly, I don't get the vibe that they are enjoying themselves. For the most part, they've seemed all business, and I can only remember two instances when either one of them seemed to just stop and take in the experience: in Botswana, and then in India. To me, it seems, win first, exposure second, and having fun a distant third.
_______________________________________________________________ Why are you willing to bet this? I think it's pretty stupid to bet money or property on random assumptions. Now I'm not saying that you have to beleive they are actually fans, but I don't see any reason to be sure enough that they arn't as to actually bet something. As for having fun, different people have different ideas of fun, they could well consider the "buisness" side of the race as fun.
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Lula 18 desperate attention whore postings
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05-06-05, 12:39 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: Cuts both ways" |
Rat Boy, I agree with you 100%. Something has been taken from the race. I don't like it at all. To me, Rob is the nastiest most unlikeable racer I seen.
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05-06-05, 04:19 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: Cuts both ways" |
To me, Rob is the nastiest most unlikeable racer I seen. Holey carp!! With all due respect, is this the first season you've watched TAR??? Cuz if it is, you've missed Colin, Jonathon, Kendra, Team Guido...who else...Flo, maybe? MANY racers in times past, and even Ray this time, have been WAY more unlikable. Rob is sneak, and cocky, but he's playful about it and has never been disrespectful to Amber or to the locals. Every other team this season has had times when they've yelled at each other. Jonathan even shoved Victoria.
 
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05-12-05, 12:25 PM (EST)
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89. "RE: Cuts both ways" |
I agree that Rob has never been nasty to Amber, but he is so disrespectful of the other teams not just at a competitive level at a downright mean level. I dont think he is the nastiest player ever but I do think he could learn a little more class than to insult a 66 year old woman who has injured herself, yet still had the endurance and faith to continue the race. I have also seen some questionable behavior in his treatment of the locals, I did not like the comment about Indian labor I thought it was disrespectful and distasteful I do not think he means it in that way I just think he is too kocky and self centered to realize how ignorant he is being.
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Ratboy 79 desperate attention whore postings
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05-07-05, 01:11 AM (EST)
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45. "RE: Cuts both ways" |
>LAST EDITED ON 05-06-05
>AT 12:45 PM (EST)
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>Stealing signs is as much a
>part of baseball as stealing
>home. Why do you
>think the catcher flashes a
>bunch of different signs when
>there is a man on
>second? So the guy
>doesn't steal the sign and
>tip off the batter.That's true. Because if they flashed one sign, it would be giving away the sign. But now, that player at second base is not attempting to steal signs, as the catcher is flashing up to eight different signs, and runners are not at second base long enough to decipher the sequence. But what the runner is signalling to the batter is the location of where the catcher is setting up, not what pitch is coming. The batter knows location, but not the pitch. And also, if a catcher or pitcher even suspect that a runner is trying to steal a sign, the next pitch will be a fastball at the batter's ear. Pitcher's do not stand for that. >As far as Romber taking the
>'guide' idea further than anyone
>else? Not even close.
> Jonathan and Victoria used
>guides every bit as much
>as Romber. You know, and everyone else knows, that is not true. Jonathan used a guide three times, two times in Senegal and then in Ethopia. Rob and Amber have used four guides, encompassing five legs, as Sanjay was used in two different legs in India. And also while on topic, let's not forget that Lena and Kristy used a guide for a while in Oslo. But hands down, Rob and Amber have used a guide way more than any other team of racers on TAR. It's a legit strategy, but I just feel that it takes away from their accomplishments. Cheers.
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trudy 171 desperate attention whore postings
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05-08-05, 11:30 PM (EST)
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61. "RE: Cuts both ways" |
I get it - so this "And also, if a catcher or pitcher even suspect that a runner is trying to steal a sign, the next pitch will be a fastball at the batter's ear. Pitcher's do not stand for that."
is ok.
and this -
"But hands down, Rob and Amber have used a guide way more than any other team" is distasteful? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Ratboy 79 desperate attention whore postings
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05-11-05, 01:19 AM (EST)
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78. "RE: Cuts both ways" |
>>Rob and Amber have used
>>four guides, encompassing five legs,
>>as Sanjay was used in
>>two different legs in India.
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>You know and everyone else knows,
>that is not true.
>Sanjay was used on one
>leg in Indai that encompassed
>two shows.YOU ARE WRONG! And here is the proof. There were three episodes in India. The first episode ended on the roof, with Phil handing a new clue to the teams on the mat. This episode was Sanjay-free. In the next episode, teams had to take a train to Jaipur, and upon arriving, Rob and Amber recruited Sanjay for assistance. That's one leg with Sanjay. This leg, (and episode) ended with Lynn and Alex's elimination. Current count: two episodes, one leg, one appearance of Sanjay. The next episode, and leg, began in Jaipur after a twelve-hour pit stop, and after leaving the pit stop, Sanjay was waiting for Rob and Amber and took them to a travel agent. He then took them to the airport, where Rob and Amber flew to Istanbul, and Sanjay remained in India. So, final count. Three episodes, two legs, two legs with Sanjay. I stand by my statement.
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anotherkim 14420 desperate attention whore postings
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05-07-05, 10:06 AM (EST)
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48. "RE: Cuts both ways" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-07-05 AT 10:07 AM (EST)But to TAR fans, we feel that they are taking something away from the race, a crucial element that makes this show so neat and exciting. Ah, there's the rub. You assume you speak for all TAR fans, but you clearly don't. I've watched TAR since day one and I love Rob and Amber. I know many other fans that do, too. YOU don't like them. You know some others that don't, but you certainly don't speak for ALL the fans of TAR. Anyone of the teams could ask for help, but they don't for whatever reason. It's their choice. I still haven't seen anyone complain when Meredith and Gretchen get help from others on their tasks. Where's the injustice there? And Ron and Kelly asked for help on the clues on the Sherlock task, too. They just asked different people on each step. It's not like they figured it out on their own, either. Does it some how make them smarter or more authentic TAR participants because they asked more people for answers? Also, you cannot possibly know that Rob and Amber aren't fans of TAR. How could you? Do you know them personally? There is a great amount of intermingling between the two shows. When I was at the wrap party for Survivor Amazon (and Rob was there), numerous people from TAR were there, including Phil. I don't see why it would be odd at all that they would be fans of the show. What are you basing your assumption on, anyway? It's a reality show. It's on CBS. It's popular. Why WOULDN'T they watch it seeing as they've been on popular CBS reality shows? 
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05-09-05, 01:08 PM (EST)
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68. "RE: Cuts both ways" |
Hi, Anotherkim,
I just saw that mentioned going to the Survivor Amazon wrap party. I'm sure you wrote all about it at the time but I'm pretty new to the boards and would love to know how you came to be there. Did you know someone on staff, win a contest, get invited because of your involvement on the Net, etc? Were a lot of the people who ended up on All-Stars there and if so, did you notice any interactions that gave you insights to relationships later? It must have been fun!
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RealityMom 560 desperate attention whore postings
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71. "RE: Cuts both ways" |
Thanks for the reply.
It sounds like you guys had a great time. Were there any people who really made an impression on you? One thing I keep wondering about is if Rob and Amber had a relationship before All-Stars. I'm pretty sure I read that it started there but the Survivors are all supposed to go to so many functions together that their relationships cut across all the seasons. Obviously, Rob and Amber wouldn't have wanted the other players to know, but at the minimum, I think Rob definitely went into All-Stars with his sights already set. Functions like the one you were lucky enough to go to, would have given him opportunity to see her up close and personal.
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TerriBlue 147 desperate attention whore postings
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79. "RE: Cuts both ways" |
Sweat excretes pheremones and scientific studies do show that some women were more attracted to certain men after smelling their sweat. So ya may be on to something
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RealityMom 560 desperate attention whore postings
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05-11-05, 02:42 AM (EST)
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80. "RE: Cuts both ways" |
Thanks for the info, Spidey and Terri,
If sweat and 30+ days are a turn-on, then from what Jeff said on Survivor, Ian must have been fighting them off like fleas. Silly me, thinking Gregg was the really hot one. (although I do think Ian seems very sweet)
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37. "RE: Cuts both ways" |
>But when that local goes with
>you from location to location,
>that's a bit much.
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>Why?
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My problem with it that what's going to prevent a team in future seasons from basically hiring a world traveler who speaks several different languages and helps them from city to city.
I know that's an extreme situation, but in an grey area such as this... Obviously, there's nothing in the rules against what Rob & Amber are doing, but they definitely found a loophole that TAR needs to tighten up.
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11. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
I agree that the Romber team is getting special treatment not fair to the other contestants. Dishonesty is not strategy. My big question is, tho, why are they the only couple who win a big prize trip if they come in #1? A bonus from CBS? If anyone deserved one, Ron & Kelly did or even Lynn & Alex who were given nothing. Sorry if this has been discussed - I'm new here.
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13. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
It has been discussed here. They are NOT the only ones that got a prize for coming in first. If you've watched the whole race, you'll remember that Debbie and Bianca got a bunch of cash for coming in first. And I think Ron and Kelly got a prize for winning leg #5 also.
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05-06-05, 11:41 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
Ron and Kelly got a prize worth $20,000 for picking the lucky gnome and they came in last in a non-elimination leg. How fair was that? They should have gone home.
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05-05-05, 03:25 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
They get all kinds of advantages.Lynn and Alex, Meredith and Gretchen, Rob and Amber, and Ron and Kelly all payed more than Uchenna and Joyce for a taxi in India. They had the advantage then. Meredith and Gretchen are so infirm apparently, that other team members feel compelled to help them. Lynn and Alex tried to get them into the "final three," Uchenna and Joyce gave them money and clothes, as did Ron and Kelly. Uchenna also wants to race against the older folks in the finale, and tried to help them push the boat. They have gotten information from lots of teams, solely becuase they have the "advantage" of being the weakest team, and therefore, are preferrable to actually racing against a capable team. (Rob and Amber, however, never tried to get the old folks into the finals to have easier competition. One of the few teams to not use the oldsters.) Every team, in some way, shape, or form, holds the advantage at times. A better fluency in the native language, more strength, physically appealing. Should we just clone one guy 24 times and send out 12 teams of the same exact person? Hardly. If they win and they probably will, it will because of all the help they got from people who wanted to be photographed with them. We must not be watching the same season, because I see Rob and Amber doing a lot of things that have helped further their position in the race other than seeking help from locals. LOTS of things. I hope Uch and her husband get some kind of recognition. They are the winners in my book. What a great couple. I agree with your sentiment, but why aren't Rob and Amber a "great couple" too? They are so great with one another, and they are the only team that hasn't fought with one another this season. THE. ONLY. TEAM. They care for one another, they are considerate, and they are polite to each other and to the people they have met on each leg. They clearly share the same goal, and both work actively towards acheiving it. How are they not "a great couple"?
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05-05-05, 03:42 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
Nicely Stated FEMME
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05-05-05, 05:44 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
There should be a "Rob Rule" from now on; for me personally it is SO boring to watch a team (mainly Rob & Amber) get assistance from some local who then ends up doing all the work for them. BORING. While other teams are working and figuring things out on their own especially. I hope the producers seriously consider implementing a new rule from now on limiting the assistance of locals. Point someone in the right direction - OK. But run the whole damn race with them?? NO. It's not fair and it's could hardly be called a "win".
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05-05-05, 05:58 PM (EST)
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20. "A super amazing link! For you!" |
Welcome to the boards, LisaE. It's nice to have you here.I must say, I am really lost on why everyone wants to call this non-existent rule "The Rob Rule." As I stated so eloquently here, that's not really fair or accurate. You would do well to click on that link. It's full of insight and wit, and lots of information about "little people," too! I guess I should just be upfront and let you know now that I am the smartest person on the boards here. Don't listen to anyone who might try to tell you differently. Pfft, Ayak Schmayak.
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05-07-05, 10:49 PM (EST)
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55. "RE: A super amazing link! For you!" |
I think the main hole in the argument that this is a bad way to race is just that it's never been done to this extent before. It's the same thing with Rob's Roadblock-quitting strategy. No one ever thought of doing it before, and Rob is obviously good enough at talking to people that he got 3 other teams to quit. He appears to be a very bright person, despite what his thick accent would imply. I think that his methods of racing are breathing fresh life into the race, especially with the overuse of bunching this season.
-Mo0cow--
I'm not stupid, just selectively ignorant.
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05-05-05, 11:07 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
The producers are out for one thing - ratings. The addition of Romber to TAR has brought many new fans to the show and the ratings are great. They are also probably the most interesting couple that has ever appeared on TAR. I do not think the producers will prevent semi-celebrity couples from racing in the future nor should they.
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05-06-05, 02:33 AM (EST)
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30. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
I think people should get used to the help people are seeing this season from Rob and Amber. Smart racing gets you ahead, and that's what Rob and Amber have in the first place. Using a local to help guide you puts you even further ahead as an advantage. Rob and Amber have used a local guide a grand total of 4 times, in 11 episodes. They're still getting ahead and placing first places even without a locals help. Rob and Amber have mastered the game because they are certainly outwitting, outthinking, and so far outlasting all other 8 teams. These teams, at least 4 of them were at Rob and Amber's throats from the get-go. If that's not a disadvantage already, I don't know what is. It certainly counters all the local help, which is smart racing, that Romber are getting.
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05-06-05, 11:46 AM (EST)
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33. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
It's amazing how no one said this last season with Allison.
Why- cause her and her Boy Toy stunk on the show, and it didn't help them.
Being a celeb isn't going to win you the race. Racing smart will.
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05-06-05, 02:10 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
Kyleman is right. Jonathan asked for help last season and had locals come along with them just as Rob did this season. As a matter of fact, I have often wondered if Rob got the idea for doing this from watching last season's shows! And what's wrong with it anyhow? If it was against the rules, they wouldn't be able to do it. The mistake most people make is that they think that Rob is dumb because of the way he talks. He is, in fact, a VERY bright guy. Also, their celebrity has also cost them. Remember when they stopped at the hospital in Africa for directions and they couldn't get out of the place because people were wanted autographs????????
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05-07-05, 10:12 AM (EST)
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49. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
Margox, that is just not true. Rob and Amber have commented many times on the amazing things they've seen and done. If you are so bored with the show, why are you watching it????
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05-07-05, 10:51 AM (EST)
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50. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
Because I want to see Uche win. Sure they thought the wild animals were cool. It was exciting. Amber may take time to look sometimes if she is allowed the time but his eye is always on the money.
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05-09-05, 05:19 AM (EST)
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63. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
Actually, I think Rob and Amber are finding fun and excitement in each of the countries that they've gone to. How can they not? It's not like we see every single second of their lives when we watch what they show us, it's all edited, so a lot of the extra parts that might not have anything to do with anything are cut out. They could definitely be having the time of their lives, I mean, this has to be better than being stuck on an island.
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05-08-05, 08:59 AM (EST)
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57. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
I am sorry Jenna this is the first time I have ever even looked at the boards and I have a lot to learn. I should have watched them for a while before using them.
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05-08-05, 05:51 PM (EST)
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59. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
well, it's okay if you didn't realize it matters which reply button you hit.
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05-08-05, 11:25 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
Wow, the first time I stumble out of bashers into Fanatics and I find a thread bashing R/A????????????
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05-09-05, 08:51 AM (EST)
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64. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
Thank you another kim i was replying to the wrong message. I will be more careful in future
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05-07-05, 12:10 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
Hi margox. I can see your point.However, it seems to me that DAWs around the world are attracted to cameras, like moths to light. Any of the teams could have asked for a guide or offered to pay for one. Seems to me some of them did, with success. Romber may have name and sight recognition, but it's the cameras themselves that even the playing field. Romber has simply run the better race. 
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
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05-08-05, 10:01 AM (EST)
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58. "Romber is the reason..." |
I am watching this season. I am loving it!  Silvergirl 
Robb has a good understanding of the rules, and it helps him to use that to his advantage. How would you keep people from getting local help, anyway? And where would you draw the line on how much help a team can receive?
Life is Good!
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05-09-05, 05:40 PM (EST)
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72. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
No rule changes or anything.Just change the title to The Amazing Assistance-from-other-people 
Are you familiar with the old robot saying, 'DOES NOT COMPUTE'?
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73. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
Yes! Well said Slice!
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75. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
I agree... they were in areas that "they were famous" in. NOT FAIR...
Rob can play the game...... but its not a game of moral and character...
Had Kelly concentrated on what she should be doing and less on what the others were doing......... it would have helped.
She spent the entired time putting down Ron and yet would speak of her love for him..... PLUEEEEEEEESE
Uch and his wife.. worked together.... they grew stronger as the game moved forward.
I am sorry Ron and Kelly lost........ because he was a POW for our country but not sorry for Kelly..
I am glad Uch and his wife won...... better than Rob and Amber
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05-11-05, 00:35 AM (EST)
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76. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
What total crap. So was it cheating when the midget got help because of her disability? Is it cheating when actractive women use their looks? How about when men use force to get what they want? The answer is NO! So who cares if R/A had recognizable faces! That took nothing away from the way the played the game!! Did you ever think that people helped them beacuse they ASKED?! Or maybe cause they we're nice?
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05-11-05, 07:29 AM (EST)
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84. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
I think there have been a couple of instances but usually Rob has to ask for help, as the other teams could have done.
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85. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
Agreed, Rob's method of play was no more different than your other examples. In fact, his play was smart and honed in to the tasks at hand. Amber, personally, was just a tag along, like in Survivor. She must not be too bright to be smitten watching him building the shelter in Survivor. She's a pretty girl, but, seriously needs to raise her standards.
With that said, it still doesn't change the fact that he's a smug, insufferable tool who thinks that everyone finds it funny when he talks bad about others behind their back. People like him usually get their butt kicked when the jig is up.
As I said, his play was smart, but, there are limits to how far you go. Deliberately screwing with others just for the sake of it is where ANYBODY with an OUNCE of integrity would refrain from. Asking U/J and the old couple (couple episodes ago) which flight they got when he knew there was only one was worthy of a pop in the mouth. Joke was on him when it turned out there actually was one. Pretending he was lost on the road (several episodes ago)to screw with the old couple behind him was disgusting. Not even pausing to make sure the brothers were ok at the wreck was inexusable. Lying about paying locals to keep quiet and then getting upset for being called out on it was spineless. These are the actions of someone without a shred of honor. We won't even go into what he did to Lex. In the end, fix or not, the questionable outcome was a direct correlation to the need to see someone with integrity win this thing and not someone who weasels his way around looking to get over on anyone and anything. One time was enough on Survivor. And anybody who likes Rob on this basis has issues. Funny thing is, in the end, it was not seeing Rob win that I loathed, but, watching Amber give us that wry smile as if to suggest she knew it all along. Get some brains girl and take a long look at what you are about to marry.
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05-11-05, 05:32 PM (EST)
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86. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
I agree no more celeb's. On most other shows where there is a prize, be it money or whatever, if you have been on another show by the same producers, production company or network you are not allowed on any others. Especially if you were a winner. And needless to say Rob/Amber were big winners on Survivor. The idea of the show was to watch average people cope with traveling around the world and figuring out how to over come the obstacles. I don't mind any team getting help from locals, but I don't like that the helpers follow them for most or all of a leg to the point of even going to the mat with them. And it's not fair to other teams to be able to get that help because your face is known from your celebrity status. If the people who recognized R/A had not been there they would have either not had the help which put them ahead at that time or they would have had to do what all the other teams do and ask for help. Gee, shame they might all be on a level playing field. Also, if you go the the TAR website and watch the videos from Phil and the producers they talk about them hoping that their decision to bring R/A on TAR would help boost ratings and bring Survivor viewers to TAR. It's the bottom line, money, but I don't think it's right. But at least they didn't win, that I am glad of. IMHO the best team won, U/J were never mean spirited to other teams and helped when ever they could. They helped M/G often and it's nice to see nice people win. I will always remember Rob's comment that he didn't think Gretchen really fell that Merideth pushed her to get sympthay. How pathetic!! But it does show the kind of person he really is.
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87. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
I agree completely. No i didn't know Rob had said Gretchen had been pushed but can believe he said it. I think the reason he was allowed on the plane when it was already closed was because he was recognized. Thank God they let Uch and Joyce on the same plane. It would have been awful if they had kept them off it after holding it for romber.
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90. "RE: Must learn lesson this season. No more celebrities" |
I too think UJ were a great couple and I am happy for them. However I say bring on the celebs if they can add the twists and turns that these two did. They made this show the best of all. They added another level and thought of things no one had in the past. Good on them for making this race one of the best yet. It was great that the rest of the teams hated them, added spice. Too bad none of them could outthink them. Hmmm maybe that is why they hated them. If you noticed they were the only ones who never blamed or picked on each other. They truly worked as a team.
Hey what about Richard Hatch and whomever he is sleeping with these days or beter yet his son. Now there would be some drama.
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