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"Proof that Rotu goes to TC."
tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-25-02, 02:53 PM (EST)
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"Proof that Rotu goes to TC." |
I'm not taking credit for this one, but someone at VO had posted a convincing argument for Rotu finally going to TC. It's based on shot's of Rob voting in Ep.1, while still on Maraamu, yet being shown with a blue buff. SurvivorNews & VO. For those who don't wanna go there here is text and photo's:While watching the first episode of Survivor: Marquesas (for no apparent reason other than being bored), I came across something that possibly tells us that Rotu goes to Tribal Council at least once. What I found happened at the first tribal council. As we all know when someone is shown voting we see three different shots: 1. The person walking up the confessional, 2. A top-view camera shot of the person beginning to write down a name. 3. (if their vote is not shown) the person folding up the vote and putting it in the jar. While watching the episode, I noticed that when Rob went up to vote he was clearly wearing a yellow buff around his wrist. But in Shot #2 when Rob is beginning to write down a name, the buff around his wrist is blue! At first, I thought it could have been the lighting, but after viewing it several times, I concluded that the buff is definitely blue. Hunter has his buff in the same place as Rob, and when they show him writing down a name, his buff is still clearly yellow. So this leads me to believe that Rotu will go to Tribal Council at least once in the next few weeks (which many people have already suspected, but this almost confirms it.) This could have been more helpful a few weeks ago, and we would have found out that Rob was switced to Rotu ahead of time. But it still does tells us that Rotu goes to Tribal Council (which isn't that big of a deal, we knew they had to go sooner or later!) There are a few questions that arise: Why would the editors slip in a a clip of Rob voting at TC #5 or 6, when he was voting at TC#1? Well, believe it or not, the editors have made this mistake before. In the very beginning of the series finale of Survivor: Africa, when the remaining contestants are supposed to be coming back from the TC in which Teresa was voted out, there is a quick clip of Kim Johnson wearing the immunity necklace and hugging Lex and Ethan! We all know that Kim J didn't have immunity until the TC in which Tom was voted out, 1 day later! These 2 place Rob with a yellow buff
Whereas these two show him with a blue buff
So now we can rest assured that MB shows us scenes out of context...Alllll the time! And Rob, as a Rotu, will indeed be going to TC. Whether in Ep.5 or 6, not sure, but definately in one of them, maybe even both. Thoughts? Anyone?
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Spidey 6259 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-25-02, 03:26 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Nope - hes got no facial hair" |
>Rob is missing his "attempt at >growing a moustache" Actually, we only catch the side of his face in the "blue buff" shots, so you can't tell if his lame moustache is there yet. But the side of his face DOES look pretty hairless. But don't the sleeves of the (same) shirt look rolled up farther in shots 3 & 4 than in the first 2? (Esp. the right arm, not so sure about the left) Looks to me like the right sleeve is rolled to his forearm in 1 & 2, and up to his elbow in the "blue buff" shots. Also, the yellow buff seems slightly higher up his arm, like the forearm, than the "blue" one, which is low on his wrist. For a second I also thought Rob's necklace wasn't in shots 1 & 2, but now I do think I see the necklace in at least shot 2. Not sure this is conclusive one was or another. Can anyone enhance shot 3 to further examine the facial hair issue?
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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-25-02, 04:33 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Nope - hes got no facial hair" |
With all respect Maraarotu, I think you missed the point. Or I didn't make it clear enough. Of course in pic's 1 and 2 Rob has no moustache they are from when Rob was a Maraamu, in Ep. 1. Whereas Rob, in Pic's 3 and 4, are while he is a Rotu. Rob has, as of yet, not been to tribal council as a Rotu. But, yet we were thrown shots of him in the blue buff during Ep.1. Besides, he is facing away from the camera. How are we to see his "Fuzztache" from that angle. The point is the buff color. OK it seems we could have used this info earlier, to guess that there was a switch coming. But I don't see why we can't use it now to assume that Rotu heads to TC, soon.
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I_AM_HE 6123 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-25-02, 04:59 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Proof that Rotu goes to TC." |
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-02 AT 05:01 PM (EST)Bebo, CBS sells the buffs in Light Blue, Magenta, and Lime. How lime can be interpreted as yellow, i don't know... but the caps there of Rob are definitely too blue to be magenta. however, they're too dark to be light blue either, regardless of lighting IMHO. i'm wondering if this is something entirely different that Rob brought to the island with him- a bandanna or something. otherwise, i can only think that it is digitally altered, though for what purpose, i have no idea
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-25-02, 05:17 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Proof that Rotu goes to TC." |
I'm not even sure that is a buff around his wrist. Do we have any other photos of Rob wearing anything around his wrist besides a buff? I just don't think there was a photo of Rob from the Rotu tribe voting in the first episode. It seems odd. It doesn't look like a light blue buff to me.
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Maraarotu 80 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-25-02, 05:17 PM (EST)
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8. "hat is on opposite as well" |
I reviewed the tape several times and the person (either rob or a double) have their hat on the proper way while wearing the blue buff on his wrist - Rob had his on backwards.
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GuessItRains 700 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-26-02, 09:08 AM (EST)
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18. "RE: hat is on opposite as well" |
It isn't 2 or 3. In those episodes Rob wore his dark tanktop not his green shirt to TC. And in the pic you can clearly see both a bluish buff and the sleeve of his green shirt, as well as that stupid Patriots hat on forward. Seems to me clear proof Rotu does go to TC sometime before the merge, although that doesn't mean they necessarily go in E5.
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-25-02, 09:21 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Proof that Rotu goes to TC." |
Okay I did some snooping around the web. I saw some photos of the Maraamus with their buffs on. The Survivor logo on the yellow buffs is a dark blue. Depending how they are wrapped around their arms sometimes only the dark blue is showing on the yellow buffs. They are wrapped so small that it is possible to not see the yellow on them.
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kdzgon 60 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-26-02, 07:26 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: Proof that Rotu goes to TC." |
While I believe that Rotu will go to TC at least once in the next two episodes, and I agree that this is an editing slip, I do have a question - didn't Brandon say that the color of his buff was edited in Survivor-Africa? I seem to recall reading this more than once. Therefore, we know they can change the color on an image, so this is either intentional foreshadowing, or a simple oversight, even if it is a stand-in in the photo. Either way, I don't believe you can just dismiss the appearance of the color. And, yes, it might have been more helpful earlier, but it still serves to confirm spoiling is possible, and MB's toying with us is highly probable.
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alleyb 98 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-26-02, 07:42 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Proof that Rotu goes to TC." |
Yes, we had vidcap evidence of just such a manipulation. Vidcaps were put side-by-side proving that the exact same shots were shown with two different buff colors. However, why would they intentionally put the wrong buff color in the very first episode? Previously instances of this were used to make the interviews reflect the current tribal make-up (regardless of how wrong the actual timing of the interviews were). But the shots of Rob wearning Rotu blue in the first episode seem like simple negligence to me. My big question for those who doubt--why wouldn't the editors color-correct to make the shot look like it really was from the first vote, rather than from Rob voting when on the Rotu tribe? They've proven they have the technology to believably change buff colors when they felt the need before.
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kdzgon 60 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-26-02, 12:49 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Proof that Rotu goes to TC." |
alleyb, I was agreeing with you, that I believe the color is blue (thus, an oversight or less likely, an intentional "hint" from MB), because we know they could change buff colors while editing. I was actually responding to an earlier post claiming it "couldn't be" blue. (and I know there were vidcaps, too, but didn't reference them 'cause I didn't want to search).
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-26-02, 02:42 PM (EST)
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20. "NEW THOUGHTS!!!" |
I have speculated in the past that the merge color will be in the dark red/crimson/magenta range. I base this on some of the little banner flags flying during water reward challenges: they were blue, yellow, and that dark red. It also makes sense based on some other factors and theories.Rob's buff is hard to see in that semi-darkness of firelight, and sometimes these vidcaps can distort the true color a little bit, especially in low light (my digital camera did that to my outdoor Christmas lights when I tried to take a pic). According to my poor eyesight, I don't think that buff in the lower pictures is light yellow OR light blue. It DOES look purplish to me. Rather than Rotu going to IC, do you think this might be an indicator of an EARLY MERGE?!?! *** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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