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"A cliffhanger coming our way?"
SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings
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03-14-02, 11:23 AM (EST)
 
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"A cliffhanger coming our way?" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-14-02 AT 11:23 AM (EST)Imagine, if you will, Maraamu losing a fourth straight Immunity Challenge. JP gathers the folks around as one group and says this: "Maraamu, you're going to Tribal Council again, and it would be pointless to continue in this fashion. So we're going to make a change. Tomorrow, either you will merge into one tribe, or be re-divided into two tribes of six at random. You should decide now what you're going to do." And at that point in time the television program ends (well, after TC...) and we are left wondering what the outcome will be until the next show. This idea does NOT conflict with several spoilers/info sources, to wit: Gina can still be voted off (Pat's interviews). Paschal standing right next to Rob. (See Bungler's recently posted pics of Ep.4 previews) The "Winds of Change" title... we're getting wind that the change is happening, but won't see it until next time. Varner-X. Kathy and/or Robert can still be voted off soon. And I've said before that Zoe might the the incorrect 1 of 6 in that list as Teresa was incorrect in Diane's Friends in S-III. Your thoughts? 
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MeToo 158 desperate attention whore postings
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03-14-02, 11:45 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: A cliffhanger coming our way?" |
Definite possibility and more interesting than a 3-2 switch. What about conflict with the Varner-friend's spoiler which indicates Kathy is the next bootee? Kathy is a reasonable choice in the event of a pre-TC switch, no matter what tribe she ends up on. I'm having a hard time thinking of any possible action (or inaction) MB can take that could even give the Moomoos a chance at this point. Even merging, switching and reshuffling leaves them at a total disadvantage and they haven't done anything to indicate that they may be smart enough on their own to help themselves. Their only chance is to win the next 3 immunities (w/o a switch) and I don't think they can win a fixed challenge. How the h*ll did they lose last night??? A cliffhanger would at least keep the show interesting during the completion of the tribicide. Perhaps the reason we don't see much of Rotu is because they will all be there after the merge. MeToo
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ulalame 778 desperate attention whore postings
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03-14-02, 12:44 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: A cliffhanger coming our way?" |
We are on the same wavelength. I have a feeling that, as usual, MB has successfully been misdirecting attention (reminiscent of S1 when every week we thought Richard was gonna go but it was always another Pagong) from the logical and obvious storyline. I think Maaramu loses soundly again and Gina goes next week. After that, I am sure there will be some kind of early merge or reshuffling of people. I still don't see how it will preclude a major Pagonging--after all, there will still be 8 true-Rotus to 4 Maaramus, however they are mixed up--it'll be like S3 when new Boran and new Samburu (generally) stuck by their tribal loyalties, leading to a final four all from one tribe.Unless, of course, Rob the "villian" does exceedingly well at persuasion, and builds a strong alliance post-twist. You gotta wonder at the editing on this one--all I've seen on every survivor board is, "geez how stupid could Maaramu be voting out wonderful Hunter," and, "that Rob is a real idiot." Anyone smell a little Richard-editing in all this?
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03-14-02, 02:29 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: A cliffhanger coming our way?" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-14-02 AT 02:30 PM (EST)>
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>And God am I tired of
>saying that Rob++ may have
>their own strategic reasons of
>voting Hunter off
Agreed. I have been thinking that voting Hunter off might not have been a bad idea for Rob and the gang. What Hunter said at TC (was it TC?) was key. He made the statement (I will paraphrase) that they needed teamwork to win challenges and that is where the tribe is falling apart. If you think about it at least half of the players complained about Hunter. Regardless if he was the strongest his attitude was different from the rest of the tribe's.
With that said a cliffhanger has to come in the next episode. And with the cliffhanger something is going to have to happen that is good for Maraamu and somehow saves Gina. Based on the previews and Bungler's vidcaps the members shown in Maraamu seem content, but the Rotu members seem devastated. I am still going with my original theory that "the winds change" has to be something good for Maraamu. And voting Hunter off, although he was strong, will pay off for Maraamu.
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03-14-02, 01:21 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: A cliffhanger coming our way?" |
About the only thing preventing a major pagonging is not a merge but a 3-way *split*: Maybe 2M/2R, 2M/2R and 4R. That way, Rotu will have these chances of losing a member:1) The All-Rotu's will come in 3rd on an IC and have to vote; 2) One of the two half-and-half teams will go to TC and the MuuMuu's will stand an even chance. Maybe this is even the reason that there's talk of prior TC votes not counting, because the MuuMuu's would be more likely to lose that way. This is ass-u-me-ing, of course, that EvilPrick is not so evil and wants to prevent a total pagonging. But then maybe he doesn't want that and will let nature take its course, and let the MuuMuu's fall where they may. ----------------------------- Homer: "But Marge -- if I catch this fish, I'll be a hero! " Marge: "A hero? ? ? To who? ? ? " Homer: "To the weirdos at the worm store! "
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ShowMeTheWinner 962 desperate attention whore postings
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03-14-02, 12:53 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: A cliffhanger coming our way?" |
Sounds great but I think it's more for a future Survivor editions. From the preview pics that Bungler posted, it'd seem that whatever big surprise that they have in episode 4 was announced during the day. TCs are usually done at night so the cliffhanger can't happen for episode 4. A pretty good idea for Survivor 5 though.
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03-14-02, 01:41 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: A cliffhanger coming our way?" |
Actually, the more I think about this, the more I like it: what if the "twist" is, there is no merge or a later merge? Episode 4, Maaramus lose again, voting Gina off, and we get the cliffhanger ("The Winds Change,") that in the next episode there's going to be a reallocation of players or a swap or something.E5 (The End of Innocence), the players are reallocated, either by a team-choosing, or Rotu being forced to give up two players to even things out. In any event, the teams end up being Rob/Sarah/Vee/Sean/Neleh and Paschal v. Zoe/Kathy/Robert/Gabe/Tammy/John. In E6, Rotu loses it's first immunity challenge, and has to vote out it's first player, who will be Kathy or Robert (per the VarnerX spoiler). The end of innocence has a double meaning for Rotu, as they both lose their innocent (Neleh) and their innocence, having to finally vote out a member. Things go downhill for Rotu after that. They lose IC in E7, and vote out Kathy/Robert (which ever one was not voted out in E6). E8 I'm still not totally clear on -- there could be a merge, but Rob has persuaded Neleh/Paschal to vote with his alliance and so the Pagonging of Rotu goes on and John or Tammy goes. Or, what if there is a later merge? No merge in E8, Maaramu wins immunity again, and Rotu is forced to vote out another player? In that scenario, John (or Tammy) would be the one to go as well. Once the Rob alliance has the power, I don't think there's anything to stop a final four of Rob/Vee/Sean and Sarah.
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ShowMeTheWinner 962 desperate attention whore postings
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03-14-02, 01:45 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: A cliffhanger coming our way?" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-14-02 AT 02:06 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 03-14-02 AT 02:00 PM (EST) Well sorry for the muddled explanations in the previous post (my bad) but what I meant was usually these kinds of big announcements would occur right after the TC boot and not after the IC because it'd be more dramatic that way and made for better TV. This announcement is so huge that announcing it right after the IC would undermine the suspense of that episode's bootee and would seem like an anti-climax. I just don't think cliffhangers would be announced in the middle of a show. They are indeed cliffhangers and the end of the show is the best time to announce it. I'd make more sense for JP to announce this after the TC, which is why I think the cliffhanger would not occur after the IC but after the TC itself. Edited to add:
someone (likely Gina) takes the Walk Of Shame with the well-lit surf in the background... and we're wondering "What are they going to do next time?!?!" If I understand you correctly, do you also mean that the TC will be held immediately after the challenge (with the well-lit surf in the background instead of in the night)? The usual Survivor editing usually give the Survivors sometime to think over their votes so I don't think MB would change this all of a sudden and make them vote immediately after the IC. Also, according to the Episode 4 preview thread set up by Bungler, it also seemed that there were Rotus present during the announcement. So I don't think the Gina boot would occur there and then. I'm not saying that the cliffhanger is impossible and frankly I think that MB should steal this cliffhanger idea from you for future Survivor editions. However I don't think the cliffhanger announcement you mentioned would occur during this episode due to the reasons mentioned above. PS: Further explanations to the replies to this post will be posted late coz my folks are coming to visit and I should haul my @$$ away from my computer. 
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03-14-02, 02:01 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: A cliffhanger coming our way?" |
Okay what if we look at it another way . . . they make the switch right after the IC. The comment "each contestent takes their own fate in their hands." What if this mean they have to pick out of a bowl what team they will be on. This could be the end of some one if they pick the team that is going to TC and they are out numbered by the other team. It would leave a cliff hanger to how will the teams work with each other in their new groups.
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03-14-02, 03:38 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: A cliffhanger coming our way?" |
That would be an easy choice for Rotu if they really want to get rid of a certain player. Kind of like new Boran throwing the IC so they could vote off Silas.
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03-16-02, 06:06 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: A cliffhanger coming our way?" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-16-02 AT 06:07 PM (EST)>LAST EDITED ON 03-14-02
>AT 11:23 AM (EST)
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>...>Paschal standing right next to Rob.
> (See Bungler's recently posted
>pics of Ep.4 previews)
>...>Your thoughts?
> I think that is Sean next to Rob, not Pascal. Sean has a white hat (worn at TC, Ep3) and a long-sleeved blue shirt that color (Ep 3, morning radio show). Pascal's hat is really an off-white or beige, not a white-white like this hat.
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03-16-02, 07:06 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: A cliffhanger coming our way?" |
If you have seen the promos for the next episode, you will know that the "twist" will happen within the first 10 minutes of the episode.
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03-18-02, 11:57 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: A cliffhanger coming our way?" |
Please go easy on me since I don't post much. Thanks
My thought is this. The promos say the survivors' world are turned upside down. I'm thinking both camps are forced to move, maybe due to a storm, and are merged for an episode, then split up again into two different tribes. Possibly the fate in their own hands is that the rewards challenge is actually a way to make up the new tribes. Just a thought.
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MeToo 158 desperate attention whore postings
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03-18-02, 01:17 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: A cliffhanger coming our way?" |
Also a great idea. The trouble this week is that we have so little to go on, it could be just about anything. Here's another thought. In S3, MB arranged the swap for obvious reasons: he knew darn well that Sambubu's could not win another challenge the way they were going and that it would be very boring television to watch the mallrats vote the geriatrics off week after week until they reached the merge. The situation is different this time. It is actually VERY interesting to watch the Godfather and the Mumu's self-destruct, at least for one more week (when things would be even). The way I see it, any switches or early merges are about increasing or at least saving the ratings. I think a switch/merge or any MB-orchestrated "twist" at this time would be more disappointing than anything. However, a weather or act-of-God (or even legal battle) related "twist" would be infinitely more interesting, regardless of how MB decides to deal with it. For this reason, I believe that's what will happen. As for a reward challenge picking your new tribe, that could work very well, depending on how it's laid out. In fact, the first 10 minutes of the show could be about the "weather" (or whatever event beyond everyone's control), followed by treemail hinting at the RC. Or I could be sadly mistaken. Just a thought.
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