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"Can you solve the mystery for Episode 3?"
redandwhite 22 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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03-08-02, 10:51 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Can you solve the mystery for Episode 3?" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-08-02 AT 10:52 AM (EST)I have a couple of theories about the "mystery". The two unlikely castaways could be Gabe and Kathy. They have been shown to have a wee bit of animosity towards one another, so they would be and unlikely pair; and they both seem to be the type of people to put aside differences and replace it with a grudging respect for one another. I think that the Godfather reference has to refer to Sean. He is the only one cocky enough to seem to think that he is in absolute control. Also, he seems to be a very entertainment savvy guy, and would enjoy being the very first african american godfather. Edited to say that this is in no way to be considered a racial slur.
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-08-02, 11:07 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Can you solve the mystery for Episode 3?" |
"Mutual admiration forms a close bond between two unlikely castaways". Neleh and Paschal-- they don't seem very unlikely and they're forever hugging each other in the background.Nevertheless, I think that it IS Neleh and Paschal that we're talking about here, to wit: Neleh is very young (the youngest of this group, I think?) and seemingly fragile (but she proved she was tough in the IC). Paschal is old (the oldest of this group, I think?) and seemingly unable to handle it (but as I posted in a spoiler, this might be MB misdirection as Paschal is in great shape). Neleh, being young, might be perceived as carefree, whereas Paschal is the staid old judge. What common interests or experiences could they possibly have? Apparently they've found some. It looks like Elisabeth/Rodger all over again. *** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-08-02, 12:07 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Can you solve the mystery for Episode 3?" |
>Here are the clues given for >next episode (episode 3): > >"Injuries plague a tribe, which employs >a remedy you won't believe". Well, if John and/or Robert are suffering from something like a jellyfish sting or such, maybe there's a chance they will reenact that famous 'Friends' down on the Jersey shore episode... OK, maybe not, but it would be something you'd have to see to believe. >"Mutual admiration forms a close bond >between two unlikely castaways". I think it's going to be two people who going into the game were unlikely FROM A DEMOGRAPHIC OR PERSONALITY stand point. ...not two people who were conflicting the first two episodes and suddenly decide to put things aside. Remember it says "mutual admiration" -- not "need to survive." People who were openly conflicting don't just overnight decide to mutually admire each other and form a close bond. Based on that, it would seem safe to eliminate just about all of Maraamu. I'd say Paschal and Neleh are a good bet, with the rest, there really isn't much for folks to admire yet. Neleh came up big in the challenge, and Paschal is showing he can kinda carry his own load. Robert has shown nothing to admire so far, nor have Zoe or Tammy. Another possibility might be John and Gabriel -- both seem to want to be in a position of leadership, and both seem willing to confront Kathy. >"One castaway dubs himself "the Godfather" >and works to proceed accordingly". >Sounds Italian to me. But >is it Rob or Robert? >How did he proceed accordingly? As others have suggested, Sean is a possibility, but my money is on Rob. Both Rob and Robert list The Godfather among their favorite movies -- and they are the only two to do so. My guess is Rob becomes cocky after Patricia's booting and figures Hunter now has to play by Rob's rules (remember, this is a guy who in his application video claims that he can play mind games with the best of them.) -SB
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-08-02, 12:08 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Can you solve the mystery for Episode 3?" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-08-02 AT 12:10 PM (EST)>"Injuries plague a tribe, which employs a remedy you won't believe". Anyone remember the episode of Friends years ago, when Monica got stung by a jellyfish and the guys peed on her leg to stop the sting? There's all sorts of interesting sea creatures out there... (edited to add: OMG, SB!!!!! We posted at the same time) >"Mutual admiration forms a close bond between two unlikely castaways". Neleh and Paschal could work, but the young/old bond is really not that unusual for Survivor (Lis/Rodger, Ethan/MamaKim) Could be John and Kathy, with Kathy lowering her aggressiveness once John shows off his nursing skills on the injuries. Could also be Sean and Hunter, who finally drop the alpha male battle and decide to work together to avoid tribal annihilation. A mutual dislike of Sarah could bring these two together. Right now, their tribe is split 2-2-2, and both could be trying to remove Sarah's influence from Rob by voting her off and getting Rob to make a threesome. (I won't edit that so that the dirty-minded folks can have a giggle.) >"One castaway dubs himself "the Godfather" and works to proceed accordingly". Sounds Italian to me. But is it Rob or Robert? Could be Rob. He spelled his strategy out quite well during the last episode, and he's still trying to decide whether to throw in with Hunter/Gina or Sean/Vee. He could be trying to figure out which pair deserves to get "an offer they can't refuse".
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esquire 1095 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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03-08-02, 04:37 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Hidden alliances" |
What indication is there that Vee is with Hunter. So far she has voted differently than him in both tribal counsels.
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whodat 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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03-08-02, 01:18 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Can you solve the mystery for Episode 3?" |
Long time lurker....first time poster. From the CBS survivor site in the "survivor skills" section on the Marquesas tour: "You can neutalize the poisonus bite of centipedes by applying urine to the bitten area." That's my vote for the "remedy you won't believe". Maybe Robert is bitten on the foot by a centipede and John not yet knowing if it is a sting or a bite is using the knife to look for a stinger. John's hand really looks like a burn ( I think) and doesn't that look like the fire pit behind him? My close bond vote is Gabe and Kathy. The snorkeling equipment swings the food hunting skills more toward skill (John) and away from dogged preseverance (Kathy), helping John in his bid to become "the provider". I think Kathy will try to hitch her wagon to the likable flower child. To me she is turning into a subtle manipulator....everybody gripes about how she harps on specific tasks...but then they get off their butts and do exactly the thing SHE wants. Godfather vote goes to Rob. I think he is the only one stupid enough to dub himself with a title like that.
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Alien Probe 11 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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03-08-02, 07:04 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Can you solve the mystery for Episode 3?" |
Urine can also be used to neutralize scorpion and sting ray poison and it's possible those critters exist on the island and in the ocean respectively. So I believe that urine could possibly be the unbelievable treatment.
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SurvivaBear 2634 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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03-08-02, 02:55 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Can you solve the mystery for Episode 3?" |
>"Injuries plague a tribe, which employs >a remedy you won't believe". I like the urinate on it theory. >"Mutual admiration forms a close bond >between two unlikely castaways". What about Rob and Sean? I see Sean's comments ("I won't tell you who to vote for.") as manipulative, implying that unlike Hunter, I will not force you to vote your girlfriend off. Perhaps, Rob comes to admire Sean's spirituality and Sean admires something about Rob that we do not know about yet. >"One castaway dubs himself "the Godfather" >and works to proceed accordingly". >Sounds Italian to me. But I say Rob does something in the next episode that not only gains him the admiration of Sean, but perhaps gets him dubbed the "Godfather". Leave it to Rob to believe his own hype. "Destined for Greatness!"
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cowboyroo 590 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-08-02, 05:01 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Can you solve the mystery for Episode 3?" |
I totally agree with the urinating for injury resolution. Not many things that would fit a 'you have to see to believe' scenario.I think the mutual admiration may be Vee and Gina with their mutual admiration for Hunter. But don't know if that fits "unlikely" or not. I don't think its Paschal/Neleh. We've seen them joining together already. Or maybe it is Gabriel/Kathy. He got her to open up so their mutual admiration could be in respecting their differences and learning from each other. The Godfather has to be Rob in my eyes. He feels a power surge from convincing Sean/Vee to vote out momma, the accent fits, adn the Godfather gets rid of people who aren't loyal.
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combatwombat 15 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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03-11-02, 10:02 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: bamboo spikes underneath the toenail" |
Shoving a piece of bamboo up a toe nail to make a 'drainage channel' for a blood-blister brings tears to my eyes!! (Robert would be screaming!)Surely a nurse and three years as an air-force medic - if we believe the bio - would have John heating the blade and using the hot point to 'melt' through the top/flat of the toenail to release the pressure. Maybe he's already done that and the 'juice' is still under there, hence the bamboo wedge. (Done both to lots of people, and once to myself - just ask any carpenter!) The limping around by Robert suggests a foot/toe injury. A blood blister is one thought; another thought is maybe John is trying to wiggle or pull out a bamboo splinter with the knife - but don't they have tweezers? (Also shoved a big splinter up my finger in freezing water and pulled it out with my teeth; but another post was dead on - it hurt like hell after the cold-numbness wore off, and did get infected). John ain't gonna be doing any serious running about soon in either event. Probably can't even walk hardly. Re: John's own injury. It looks like it is on the medial aspect of the palm -i.e. the meaty bit of the palm halfway between his pinkie and his wrist. It looks like little white bubbles, which suggests either an immediate 2nd or 3rd degree burn (cold water or pee on it quickly, mate). Else he has multiple bites from something, but they would be bright red rather than white, surely? No comment on the Godfather, except Robert probably wouldn't want to be labelled that (let alone 'TaxiDriver') unless the rest of the team calls him that out of kidding around. My 2 cents.
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shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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03-09-02, 03:00 AM (EST)
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17. "shame on you Java, shame on you" |
>Now, I never saw these movies, >so I don't really know >what the Godfather does in >the pics. ...Java, you should be too ashamed and embarrased to even admit that. I'm actually embarrassed for you right now. Your only plausible excuse is that you've never owned a TV, VCR or DVD player...or maybe you were in a coma for the past 25 years, or maybe you're in the Taliban and you have no care for anything that represents great Americana.
Either way, don't ever admit that again, for your own good and safety.
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NightScribe 761 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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03-09-02, 12:37 PM (EST)
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18. "still, she makes a good point" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-09-02 AT 12:39 PM (EST)Well, I've seen parts of the Godfather, and I think Java's query was a good one -- that is, what role does the Godfather take on? Figuring this out might help us locate the poser. So, from what I remember about The Godfather, Don Corleone has a couple of roles: 1) To bump of the guy in charge to gain power (G1), 2) to bring warring families together (G2), 3) To fullfill general Godfather duties, like granting permission for certain things, etc.. Assuming this is about Rob, not Robert (cus I can't see Robert, who's not helped his tribe much due to illness and injury, taking on this attitude) what would be his next logical role? To bump off (or depose) the HMFIC -- i.e. Hunter.
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shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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03-09-02, 02:44 PM (EST)
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19. "you too Scribe????" |
>Well, I've seen parts of the >Godfather, ....PARTS!?!??! Parts?! What the hell kind of crap is that. You too should hang your head in shame. You shouldn't be allowed to watch another movie for the rest of your sheltered wasted life until you go back and watch the whole friggen movie, and not just Part I but also Part II which features DiNero as a young Vito Corleone.
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-09-02, 03:26 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: you too Scribe????" |
I have to agree with shakes here...WHAT!! You haven't seen THE GODFATHER! I lock myself in and watch the whole thing at least once a year, by far the BEST movie of ALL TIME.Anyway, on to the subject of how it relates to the survivors. One of the main things the Godfather does is grant favors. Throughout the movie, people come to him to solve their problems. The catch is, by doing so, you become indebted to him. You WILL be asked to return the favor, and it won't always be easy. So, I think this could have to do with Rob going to Sean in an attempt to save Sarah. Sean sided with Rob, to save Robs voting partner (Sarah) and now Rob owes Sean. OR, Sean felt vulnerable at the last TC, and went to ROB and promised him something to save his skin by ousting Trisha. Could go either way. It is interesting that Rob listed this as his favorite movie, I don't think it will have anything to do with Rotu Robert. But I could see Rob comparing himself to The Godfather if he feels he granted Sean some big favor. It possibly could refer to a deal that Rob could strike with Hunter in this episode. I'm really not sure, but I would bet it has something to do with granting/owing favors, and not about bumping anybody off (lol, now THAT would be a ratings grabber) Either way, ya'll should be ashamed of yourselves for not seeing this brilliant film. RENT IT TODAY! (however, avoid part 3, it doesn't hold a candle to Parts 1 and 2..even though Andy Garcia is HOT) true True friends stab you in the front -Oscar Wilde
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TheWanderer 267 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-11-02, 03:06 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Can you solve the mystery for Episode 3?" |
... on the other hand.... Rob could go to Hunter and make him an offer he can't refuse.... Rob will vote with Hunter against Sean thereby protecting Sara. Rob tells Hunter he will convince Sara to vote off Sean as well. Therefore, at TC, you have Hunter, Rob, Gina and Sara vote against Sean. But the question is... would Hunter go for a deal like that at this point in the game? It would only make sense if they knew they were down to few enough members to force a merge. If they know about the swap (as MB indicated they knew), it may make sense, so as not to send a physically strong member over to the other team.
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katem 3315 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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03-11-02, 04:42 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: maybe" |
Java, just to add that Godfather 3 is not a bad movie, it is actually pretty good, it's just that compared to the other two, it just does not hold a candle to them, but it is still a great conclusion to the story.WATCH ALL THREE !!!!! As for the info on this thread. I think Sean is really the dumb one that wants Hunter gone, but I cannot count out Hunter just yet, he might make a deal with Rob to oust Sean. Anyway, I think the only safe person in Mumu this week is Vee, and only by default.
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-12-02, 06:55 PM (EST)
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34. "Hijack" |
...uh, Godfather 3 is a horrible movie based on what should have been a great idea (the Vatican-Mafia scandals and the rumor that Pope John Paul I was murdered because of them). Unfortunately, after his near-bankruptcy over Apocalypse Now, Francis Ford Coppola became unsure of himself as a director, and he ruined the story with a surprisingly ham-handed touch. Plus, Winona ("what should I shoplift next?") Ryder pulled out of the movie at the last minute. In her place as Michael's daughter, Francis cast his untalented daughter Sophia, exposing her to international ridicule.A great shame, because Coppola's Godfather 2 is, in my opinion, the best movie ever made, and Coppola's The Godfather is pretty darn good itself. Oh, and you should also see Coppola's ORIGINAL (NOT the reissue) Apocalypse Now and The Conversation, plus Patton (a Coppola Oscar-winning screenplay). After Apocalypse Now, the only Coppola product worth dealing with is the Niebaum~Coppola Winery wines, which are pricey but excellent.
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ShowMeTheWinner 962 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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03-10-02, 01:41 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Can you solve the mystery for Episode 3?" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-10-02 AT 06:48 AM (EST)Agree with you guys that the remedy's probably urine as indicated on the CBS website that urine is used to treat bites, etc. Think that "the Godfather" is probably Rob. He just sounds like the kind of guy who would say something like that and plus the fact that he pointed out Godfather as his favorite movie. "Proceed accordingly" sounds like his tribe is about to go to TC and he's gonna vote off Hunter. (dumb, dumb, dumb) I had a lot of trouble trying to make up my mind about the second clue until: It's Kathy and Robert!!! How unlikely can it get other than this???!!! Maybe those injuries create hallucinations or something ;) But seriously, maybe Kathy's nice and took good care of Robert when he was sick and he was touched by her gesture. Now we know, there won't be a unanimous vote to oust Kathy in future TC. It's up to Robert to see if he can save Kathy just like Rob saved B!tchney.
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mavsfan 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-11-02, 02:49 AM (EST)
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24. "Dead Weight" |
Robert has a foot injury. It could be from an insect such as a scorpion, or centipede. He could have twisted his ankle, or smashed his toe. I would expect any of these injurys to be a huge problem during the physical challenges over the next 3 days, maybe longer. In a physical challenge he's going to be Dead Weight. I am a firm believer that MB chooses challenges that favor one team over another so that they don't become too lopsided. Thus I expect the immunity challenge this week will be physical, and that Robert will have to compete. (Robert sat out the last time Rotu had to sit someone down). If Robert hasn't fully recovered and has to compete, it gives me a reasonable degree of confidence that Rotu will have to go to TC this week. -- The question then is does Rotu get rid of the injured Robert (as I expect), or the annoying Kathy (as we've been led to believe), or someone completely different?
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Wacko Jacko 2438 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model"
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03-11-02, 05:00 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Dead Weight" |
Exactly. And I think Rotu will have to put up with Kathy for one more week. Robert was also suffering from being sick last week. I think Robert is a goner.
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TheWanderer 267 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-11-02, 05:16 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Dead Weight" |
Although Robert has been "sick" , he seems to pull his weight in the challenges. John said the main reason Robert was sick was due to lack of (substantial) protein. That may be solved if they catch a pig, chicken or goat. Kathy's abrasiveness and non-involvement with the rest of her tribe members make her a bigger target in TC.What is more perplexing, is we've not really seen the alliances in the Rotu tribe. For argument's sake if Maraamu loses the IC in Ep3, they will then be down 8-5, so if the switch doesn't occur after the RC while Maraamu still has 6 members, it may occur next episode if Maraamu loses, if the switch occurs at all. Let's say the switch occurs after Maraamu loses the Ep 3 IC. How many members will be switched? The most you could switch and remain any semblance to your original tribe is 2 members. Maraamu would send (IMO) Sara and Sean; Rotu would send Kathy and Robert. If the switch occurs before the IC, here are a couple of permutations that pose some interesting scenarios: 1) Maraamu sends Sean, Sarah and Rob; Rotu sends Kathy, Robert and Paschal. We should see some interesting fireworks if that occurs. 2) Maraamu sends Hunter, Gina and Vee; Rotu sends Kathy, Robert and Paschal. If this scenario occurs, the new Rotu tribe would wipe the floor with the new Maraamu tribe. Do you think MB would let a combo like this occur?
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Wacko Jacko 2438 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model"
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03-11-02, 06:19 PM (EST)
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31. "Switch? What Switch?" |
If Maraamu is down any amount of members to Rotu switching just gives Rotu the game. That kills all the suspense. A switch only works when both tribes are even. In Africa, if you remember both tribes had 6 members left and it was already known to Burnett that the young Mall Rats were to vote out Frank and Teresa next. On the other side, Burnett knew (although) it was withheld from the tv audience that Ethan, Tom, Lex and Kim J had an alliance. Clarence and Kelly were next. He wanted to stir things up and make it more interesting. If Rotu is leading lets say 8 to 4 how does this get things stirred up by pulling the switch? The answer is they don't. Burnett will only use the switch to make the game more interesting. A switch in this instance will kill the game not make it better. Therefore Burnett would better be served by staging the challenges so that Maaramu wins one or two (ie SOS, puzzles, mazes).
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03-11-02, 10:32 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Can you solve the mystery for Episode 3?" |
I seem to recall that for some stings, scorpion maybe?, putting water as hot as possible on the sting helps neutralize venom...living in Canada home to many stinging creatures ( not) I may have dreamed this...
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