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PLEASE NOTE: The Reality TV World Message Boards are filled with desperate
attention-seekers pretending to be one big happy PG/PG13-rated family. Don't
be fooled. Trying to get everyone to agree with you is like herding cats,
but intolerance for other viewpoints is NOT welcome and respect for other
posters IS required at all times. Jump in and play, and you'll soon find out
how easy it is to fit in, but save your drama for your mama. All members are
encouraged to read the
complete guidelines.
As entertainment critic Roger
Ebert once said, "If you disagree with something I write, tell me so, argue
with me, correct me--but don't tell me to shut up. That's not the American way."
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"Reminder about Guidelines..."
sleeeve 3456 desperate attention whore postings
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02-26-02, 09:29 PM (EST)
 
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"Reminder about Guidelines..." |
For the S4 season, there are once again a few things that I'd like to make sure we're all aware of...First: The official vote thread will be started on Tuesday night by either SherpaDave or Superman. Any vote thread NOT started by one of those two will be locked and/or deleted... Starting it Tuesday night gives people a little less than 48 hours to cast their vote (which should be plenty of time).
The rules for the vote thread will be included each week in the initial post... it's easy... works the same as last season. Second: The official East Coast feed Thread will be started each week by IceCat. All play-by-play comments should be placed in that thread. Everyone should feel free to add their comments/observations/analysis to that thread... New threads that contain information about the show that are posted before .
This is to allow our West Coast members to use the spoiler board during the show, without having the actual episode ruined for them. It also allows spoiler access to any West Coasters that just can't wait another 3 hours (and keeps a summary in our archives, should we ever need one). West Coasters should be aware, however, that the mods can't be everywhere at once. Accessing the forum after 8pm EST should be done at your own risk. After each episode, posts like "I told you that Lindsey was next to go" should be kept to a minimum... Bragging is natural, but our goal each week is to spoil the next episode, not feed our egos. Finally: I'd like to remind everyone that this is a threaded community. The board features allow us to keep related information under the same heading. While we allow our members to start any threads that they want, we ask that your thread contribute in some way to the effort of the board. In other words, if you wish to comment on a subject addressed in another thread, do it in that thread. If you have something new to share, a new thread is appropriate. There is a lot of leeway on this, because it's hard to define what should be considered "related" and what should be considered "new" (since really every thread is striving to spoil the same aspects of the show)... obvious violations will be taken care of at the moderators' discretion, but our overall goal is to have fun. Additionally, it should be noted that we have forums for fanatics (praising the contestants) and bashers (making fun of the contestants). There's a lot of fun to be had in this forum (check out fanatics for two contests that begin this week-- a PTTE contest, and the anti-bootee contest). Since these forums are readily available, if your post has nothing to do with spoiling the show, you should consider posting it in one of those two locations. SB has traditionally been a community with minimal flaming and minimal policing by the moderators. The basic guideline should be to respect the members of the community and to try to spoil the show. If everyone strives for this, we'll have no problems at all in the coming season. If anyone has any questions/comments about these guidelines, feel free to post to this thread... we're open to suggestions... this is just how it's worked in the past... Also, if you think I left anything out that our new members should be aware of, add it!!! 
You never know what might be up my sleeeve... 
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Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings
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02-28-02, 10:08 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: 60 pixels in height" |
Sleeve:Is it pixel height or total "bytes" that matters? Why is it more important to limit height than width? I don't understand... You mean I have to shorten my cute little krautboy and make him a fat little krautboy? He's only a total 3661 bytes.(some are as large 19845 bytes  ) Isn't download speed a function of bytes per second? Can you tell I'm a little defensive about cute my little krautboy? How long does it take to download the little guy...1/10 of a second? Am I whining?  Krautboy (just 3661 bytes of cuteness!)
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings
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02-28-02, 10:53 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: 60 pixels in height" |
I like your sigpic just fine the way it is, Krautboy, you'll hear no complaints from me. I can't officially answer your question, though, but my greater concern is download time. When it comes to just using up space in a post, something like
seems perfectly fine to me, whereas a real monster can be cute once but you can get tired of scrolling through the thing, like this one.
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George Tirebiter 2982 desperate attention whore postings
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02-28-02, 03:19 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: 60 pixels in height" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-28-02 AT 03:55 PM (EST)Good grief, dabo! HERE! 
(Yes, I was getting a bit embarrassed by that HUGE birdie appearing over and over. . . I didn't think you were going to use him as a sig! Arrrrrrrrr) GT
 Edited to add: Krautboy, your little guy disappears if he's just shrunk. . .
But if you crop him, he's easier to see:
. . . and that was so forlorn-looking, it seems like he needs something to anchor him:
Use 'em or not, as you didn't request this (IceCat is the resident sig pix guy, if you can FIND him); some people just can't resist an opportunity to fart around with Photoshop, in an effort to ignore REAL work . . . Boy, couldn't you just go for a big plate of weinerschnitzel about now? Ach du lieber!
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings
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02-28-02, 03:45 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: 60 pixels in height" |
lol, GT, you know I can't resist a good fun-pokin' gag when it gufu's my way.  And thank you.
 SMILES ARE FREE
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings
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02-28-02, 03:57 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: 60 pixels in height" |
>Is it pixel height or total "bytes" that matters? Why is
>it more important to limit height than width? I don't
>understand... Since this is my rule and not EEE's, I'll answer this. Yes, in this case it's PIXEL HEIGHT that matters. While size is important, unless someone has some massive animated image, the image shouldn't be too big. I'm more concerned about size because personally I don't like to see a one sentence post fit up half the screen once a sig and sig image has been applied-- it just makes the threads look bad and make them difficult to read. This all all going to be likely become a mute point whenever I get around to modifying the latest release of our message board software and upgrading to it -- in that release sig images will be handled differently and sizes will be enforced by the software itself (sorry folks, that's just the way it is, the Wild West days of sig images are gonna be ending.) -SB
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George Tirebiter 2982 desperate attention whore postings
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02-28-02, 02:29 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: A question" |
Yep, I'm afraid that's the one I mean. My point is that I suspect I'm not the only one to suffer from tunnelvision and forgetting to go there--many of us bookmark the forums we frequent, and space off the rest. . . It just seems like the total votes cast there are never anywhere near as high as SB's registered users, and since you go to the trouble to include a clever little script to tally something every week, it ought to get noticed more. When you decide what the official SB call for the week is, I'm assuming you're weighing the results there, on the Spoilers vote thread, and your own gut, right?Not trying to complicate your life, just speaking up for my fellow airheads who might not even realize there IS a poll. And sometimes when you don't shake things up a bit, it gets easy to stop noticing all the little extras you've included here. . . I know I'm usually working on twelve different things on my desktop, and often don't see anything beyond changes to actual threads. . . GT
Hi, everyone. I'm GT and I have ADD. . .
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George Tirebiter 2982 desperate attention whore postings
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03-02-02, 02:41 AM (EST)
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20. "RE: Reminder about Guidelines..." |
LAST EDITED ON 03-02-02 AT 02:42 AM (EST)Mind if I BUMP this topic? Since sleeeve was kind enough to outline these general rules, I've seen increasing numbers of new users posting redundant threads instead of taking the time to read through what's already here. . . Not a good introduction, getting yourself a Clown smackdown or an abruptly locked thread and admonishment to think before you post. Besides, if you really have something important to say, best to do it where people are already thinking along the same lines and are in a good frame of mind to react thoughtfully to what you have to contribute! GT
Och. . . what times are these, when passing ruffians can say "Ni" at will to helpless old women. . . Edited cuz there were too many dogs in one place, even for me. . .
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NorthOfBoston 158 desperate attention whore postings
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03-04-02, 10:04 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Reminder about Guidelines..." |
LAST EDITED ON 03-04-02 AT 10:35 PM (EST)in response to: "Since sleeeve was kind enough to outline these general rules, I've seen increasing numbers of new users posting redundant threads instead of taking the time to read through what's already here. . . Not a good introduction, getting yourself a Clown smackdown or an abruptly locked thread and admonishment to think before you post. Besides, if you really have something important to say, best to do it where people are already thinking along the same lines and are in a good frame of mind to react thoughtfully to what you have to contribute!" I may not have 5000 desperate attention whore postings under my belt, George, but I have to say that when you so bitingly criticized me for MIS-posting a remark last week, I was a little taken aback. I hadn't been on-line since S3 ended, and with my horribly pathetic and slow server MSN, I didn't go searching through endless pages to see if the topic I wanted to comment on had already been posted. Perhaps I should have; however, your "Clown smackdown" wasn't particularly necessary. I was a devoted webcrawler on this site (though infrequent poster) during the last Survivor seasons, and now I feel like there's a Gestapo (sorry for the hyperbole)-like control over content. I'll stick to the other "non-spoiler" pages to post from now on, but I wanted to say that I do miss the open postings of S3. I think control-freak MB has finally tapped into your brain.
ps: (edited after realizing that I am taking this whole thing WAY too personally) Actually, I think I am more upset since I have seen some posters on this forum get bashed for expressing a few harmless comments here and there that do not squarely fit into the round holes of spoiler-dome. I liked the comments by RoseRed last season, for instance, and I read a flat "Clown smackdown" to one of her comments this season; I haven't seen much of her on the forum since. Personally, I'm just not a "Survivor Fanatic" kind of poster since I'm more interested in speculation over admiration, so I suppose there's really no good fit for where I should post if I do. Ah well, so be it.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings
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03-04-02, 11:20 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Reminder about Guidelines..." |
North... 1) Rose was a guy from NYC, 2) the problem with much of Rose's posting in the spoiler forum was that it certainly wasn't spoilers, and it wasn't even valid, well-thought out speculation. The majority of it was pure stream-of-conscienceness, posted-without-a-second-thought "diarrhea of the mouth" babbling -- something that I'm not saying doesn't have a place on this site (*cough* *cough* Off-topic *cough* *cough*  ), but that place isn't on the spoilers forum. ...and when you make a habit of making stuff like that the primary content of your reputed "spoiler" postings, of course your going to be flamed -- this is a place for spoilers and serious speculation, not for flippant and whimsical comments (or worse, the claims of "known facts" based on completely preposterous assumptions.) This spoiler community has always had a "no-nonsense, high quality" reputation (just ask around) -- and I personally am interested in keeping it that way. Do we maybe hold the bar higher than some other places -- absolutely, and I don't see the problem with that, I wouldn't have it any other way. -SB PS I hope all the OT folks realize I was joking above...
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings
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03-05-02, 01:32 AM (EST)
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25. "RE: Reminder about Guidelines..." |
>North... 1) Rose was a guy
>from NYC,(Gasp!) ... Does this mean ... that George is a woman from Florida!!!  hehehe! Without dwelling much on the RoseRed situation, that was a case of someone who kept trying and trying but who always took things personally, who made it personal. The situation continuously disintigrated because RR wasn't able to understand that it was the posts themselves, not his person, which were what were drawing the reactions. And, frankly, he was lucky shakes the clown never got around to really flaming one of his posts, especially since he never would have understood that it was the post that was the issue. >The majority of it was pure
>stream-of-conscienceness, posted-without-a-second-thought "diarrhea of the
>mouth" babbling -- something that
>I'm not saying doesn't have
>a place on this site
>(*cough* *cough* Off-topic *cough* *cough*
>), but that place isn't
>on the spoilers forum.
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>PS I hope all the OT
>folks realize I was joking
>above... That was supposed to be a joke? Hey, we're proud of our babbling on OT! SMILES ARE FREE
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George Tirebiter 2982 desperate attention whore postings
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03-05-02, 02:13 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Reminder about Guidelines..." |
North. . . I worked quite hard to word my post thoughtfully, and I don't see anything that any of half a dozen newbies responsible for it should find offensive. Please read it again. . . Is ". . . if you really have something important to say, best to do it where people are already thinking along the same lines and are in a good frame of mind to react thoughtfully to what you have to contribute!" REALLY such a slap in the face?Yes, I will readily admit to being quite anal--what I always liked about this place is the fact that from the beginning it has distinguished itself as a forum for SERIOUS discussion. I LIKE having rules, I like it when everyone abides by them without issue. Relevant discussions are normally maintained at/near the top of the first page, unlike other boards, where it's more important for people to see their names--resulting in an avalanche of disjointed posts, and the occasional pithy thought being lost on page four in a matter of hours. The fact that Neatness Counts here should not be a major stumbling block, unless one also has trouble dealing with the real world. Yes, there is a fine line between maintaining that order and keeping a welcome mat out to new posters, but I think it weeds out some necessary chaff. (FYI--there are longtime SB posters who STILL choose only to read this forum! And I agree--if your interest lies more within the less-than-substantive "ROFL" or pat on the back comments, then OT or Fanatics IS probably more your speed.) As for being part of shakes' smackdown patrol? Nope--I was simply trying to avoid the necessity for him to step in and REALLY offend you all. Believe me--when he flames you, you won't have to wonder who it's directed at or if you should take offense. Apparently I missed the mark in my attempt to clue people in--next time I see someone's missing the party, I'll just leave them talking nonsense to themselves in the bathroom. When you find yourself all alone on page two, you know it won't be for my lack of trying to save you the embarrassment. Nice to give us a reason to keep bumping sleeeve's post to the top, though--now if we could only get everyone to READ his original post and take it to heart! Move along, people--nothing to see here. . . BACK TO SPOILING! GT
(dabo--you're cracking me up here. . . )
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shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings
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03-02-02, 02:57 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Reminder about Guidelines..." |
>SB has traditionally been a community
>with minimal flaming.....are you challenging me E boy? Cause I can make this place burn with the fury of a thousand jihads if I so choose  
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George Tirebiter 2982 desperate attention whore postings
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03-11-02, 04:38 PM (EST)
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27. "Reminder TO READ the Guidelines..." |
Wish there was a way to bump the original post by its lonesome--or that there could be a way to keep it permanently at the top of the list, to serve as a beacon of sanity. . .Am I the only one getting frustrated that topics are getting so spread out and continually pushed down the page by new posts? PLEEEZE--if you have something to say about something that someone brought up a while ago, SEARCH for the thread and ADD to it! That way, no one has to repeat an answer they already gave, no one has to duplicate vid caps that Bungler has already posted, and important observations won't get lost in the shuffle! Seems like if we're getting much over a dozen topics a week in this forum, something is amiss. . . I realize that some of this is due to growing pains, but if seeing your name up there in lights is your main objective, take it to the OT or Fanatics, as Webby so eloquently stated above. A lot of these don't even need a response--they're just here to help in the final assessment! *sigh*
GT
Who--contrary to what the horrific DAW numbers may indicate--makes a concerted effort to post ONLY when she has something to add (especially in this forum)
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings
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03-12-02, 00:28 AM (EST)
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31. "RE: Threaded community" |
I would like to add something to maybe help new posters feel more comfortable yet also understand why it's not helpful to the community to start a new thread every time you have a question or theory. Maybe it won't help, but I mean well.I started posting here around the merge of S2; I think I only started one or two new threads the whole season and only because I had a topic that wasn't covered. Yet I was an active spoiler. I contributed by adding my ideas to existing conversations, and people were very nice to me. Meanwhile I noticed that people who started new threads once a day got flamed. Be treated nicely or be flamed--wasn't a hard choice for me to make. In S3 I think I started maybe 3 threads the whole season. I started some pre-season threads for S4, but I think I've started only one during the season (nothing major, posted the contents of Tricia's chat as it was happening). Why not start em at will? Because I like having the topics few and organized. That way I load the page and see all the important topics without having to scroll. Like: The bootee, the RC, the IC, the promo vidcaps, the written preview spec, all the interviews by any one player, real spoilers (if any), a good media article, and of course the SOTS. Krautboy had a Hindsight thread last season I really liked too. Now right there you have enough topics to fill a screen, and that's without alliance speculation or rules speculation. I am a serious spoiler but I do not spoil Survivor for hours a day. I don't have time. That's why I want to open up the board and see conversations on the various distinct areas of spoiling, and NOT see multiple threads speculating on the same thing where people have to say--"as I already posted on another thread"... Similarly, when I walk in a grocery store I think it's really nice to have produce, dairy, beer (very important) separated into sections! Can you imagine how much time it would take to shop if everything were just strewn at random around the store? The principle we ask for here is efficiency (and also respect of others' opinions and to think before you post). It's not a snob thing: a new person's opinion is no less valuable than someone with high DAW#s (and most of us HUGE Daws got our high numbers in other forums, believe me). On the other hand, when I arrived, I recognized that this board had some top spoilers who tended to start topics with very organized, well-presented arguments, and I felt more comfortable responding to those people than starting my own rather half-assed threads... A year and some 1700 Daws later, I still feel that unless I want to take the time to really work up a presentation, or unless I have a breaking topic, I refrain from pushing the POST button. IMHO, there's no glory in seeing your name on the screen to the righthand side of a topic. There's glory in getting it right and in contributing to a good thread in a well-reasoned fashion. Please folks, let's keep it organized. Plus you won't get people all grumpy at you... Remember, the REPLY button is your friend; the POST button can get you scorched!
OK, happy spoiling ALL!
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings
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03-14-02, 05:15 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Reminder about Guidelines..." |
bump
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TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings
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03-29-02, 11:49 AM (EST)
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35. "bump." |
cause it's time
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adjunkie 7 desperate attention whore postings
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04-01-02, 02:22 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: Reminder about Guidelines..." |
I just hate when this falls off of page one. I hope nobody minds a little bump.
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