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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings
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05-21-03, 09:47 PM (EST)
 
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3. "Update..." |
Did I hear them correctly when they said 1350 votes difference when the correction came in just before they announced the vote.
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings
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05-21-03, 09:48 PM (EST)
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4. "The winner was..." |
...Ruben.
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frisky 11695 desperate attention whore postings
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05-21-03, 11:51 PM (EST)
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18. "Using Ryan's numbers..." |
24,000,000 votes, 50.28%/49.72% split24,000,000 * 50.28% = 12,067,200
24,000,000 * 49.72% = 11,932,800
12,067,200 - 11,932,800 = 134,400 So, yeah, the vote difference would be ~130,000.
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LadyT 5567 desperate attention whore postings
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05-21-03, 10:05 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Spoiler Thread" |
ALl those worthless shots of them all playing and having fun were just plain stupid. And I want to know how much Coca Cola had to pay for the shot of it's logo behind Simon's head when we saw the judges on the couch.But I am happy Ruben won. He rocks  
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Schnookie Palookie 16822 desperate attention whore postings
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05-22-03, 00:12 AM (EST)
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20. "RE: Spoiler Thread" |
Well I for one was really ticked off at tonight's show. I wanted to see Clay win. When they announced that it was close (with the percentages), I was feeling bad for them. Then when he said it was a difference of 1300 votes, then Rueben wins, I stomped downstairs, cursing under my breath, and opened a bottle of wine. (DH was very amused ) DH said Clay was bushwacked hehehe. I figured if it was that close, then they both should be declared winners. Now that it's 130,000 votes, it eases the pain a little but not much. Oh well, Clay will do just fine I'm sure. Rueben ... blech ... I don't really care.Kelly ... double blech. She doesn't sound so good anymore. Oh well, on to the next AI. 
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katem 3315 desperate attention whore postings
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05-22-03, 00:51 AM (EST)
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22. "I hope you all forgive me ....." |
.... but I am going to be nasty now. I can't believe that ugly ass, hippo eating, sweat magnet, scratchy voiced slob won this sucker. The person the producers wanted to win won. He's a boring, one tone, and type of song singer and a really BAD performer. To hell with this "competition". I'm so mad  GO CLAY !!!!! THE REAL AMERICAN IDOL !!!!! As for the final show, it was soooooo underwhelming, very appropriate since that slob won. 
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I_AM_HE 6123 desperate attention whore postings
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05-22-03, 03:36 AM (EST)
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27. "RE: I hope you all forgive me ....." |
uh, no. he meant BOTH clay and ruben were talent, not image, and was glad america had made them the final 2. i don't think he really cared who won between the two.no offense, but y'all are starting to sound like the dearly departed banned ruben hater. don't get me wrong, i liked clay better, but ruben is a good winner too. it wasn't rigged, ruben edged him out. maybe if clay hadn't been rather mediocre last night he would have won. just saying. the above is not directed at any person, just the general sentiment. take a step back, take a deep breath. it'll be ok. clay and ruben will both be successful, because they are BOTH good. and if that still doesn't mollify you, you can take solace in the fact that its not near as bad as jenna winning survivor flame away if you will, but i think it had to be said 
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katem 3315 desperate attention whore postings
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05-22-03, 09:40 AM (EST)
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31. "RE: I hope you all forgive me ....." |
>no offense, but y'all are starting
>to sound like the dearly
>departed banned ruben hater. don't
>get me wrong, i liked
>clay better, but ruben is
>a good winner too. it
>wasn't rigged, ruben edged him
>out. maybe if clay hadn't
>been rather mediocre last night
>he would have won. just
>saying. >flame away if you will, but
>i think it had to
>be said I would never flame you HE, but the reason I am so upset is that I DON'T think Ruben is actually that great of a singer. He can sing, but then again a lot of other people can sing, that does not mean you have the talent to be an entertainer. He does NOT have that talent. Ruben is as dull as dry white toast. And it upsets me that the producers and the judges would always overpraise him, when it was obvious he did NOT deserve it. So in conclusion, I totally disagree with you, Ruben is NOT a good winner, at all. And Clay was great last night and the night before. At least soooooo much better than the "American Idol".
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GeorgiaBelle 2136 desperate attention whore postings
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05-22-03, 03:03 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: I hope you all forgive me ....." |
you can take solace in the fact that its not near as bad as jenna winning survivor flame away if you will, but i think it had to be said HE this is in no way a flame. But I disagree with you. The survivor thing did not upset me. We see just a few hours of actual game and are given only what editing wants us to see. Those people live with each other and know each other better. While I was NOT thrilled Jenna won, I was not mad. Now A.I. is different. This show is seen live and America is suppose to vote for the winner. What this is boiling down to is, who can get people to call in. When someone votes 200 or even 2 times it is not an equal or accurate vote. We here on spoiling boards realize how the system works and how the judges comments will lead America. Yes, this show is edited to led. One only has to look as far as when Ruben made the bottom two and a close up of Simon acting shocked and annoyed was seen, to prove the judges were "telling" America this was not right. Then the judges were always asked do you agree with this group at the bottom. Once again giving the opportunity to tell us how to vote. Let's face it America was told to vote for Ruben. I think it would be more fair to have one vote per phone line. Now, I will agree that Ruben has a strong voice but he is not the type of star I would pay to go see. I will not touch the weight issue but I will say Ruben can't dance well and he rarely moves on stage. This makes him boring. Not to mention all his songs sound similar to me in style and pitch.
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GeorgiaBelle 2136 desperate attention whore postings
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05-22-03, 04:41 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: I hope you all forgive me ....." |
i just said in the other thread that i disagree about the one vote per household. i think that's a very bad idea. it gives a vote of a person like me, who is not going to buy any of these people's CDs equal weight as the rabid fans who are willing to vote for 2 straight hours. HE, my only issue with the voting is I could understand it, if this rabid fan were to buy 200 CD's. Rarely does anyone buy tons of one title. Now, if it were a special occasion or a friend could not afford it I would buy more than one CD. If you are unwilling to buy several CD's then you should not have several votes. and i also disagree that someone has to dance around and act like a fool on stage to be a good performer I did not say they had to be a monkey but I am not about to pay the prices tickets go for to see someone wave their arm at me. It all boils down to personal taste. This is exactly WHY we have so many artist. I have been to country western, pop and heavy metal concerts and all were sooooo different but they all were entertaining. I liked each performer or I would not have been there. I just do not like Ruben's style for pop music. I love to hear Christian music and I do think he would do a killer job in that field. My .02 cents.
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GeorgiaBelle 2136 desperate attention whore postings
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05-22-03, 03:32 AM (EST)
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26. "What's to forgive....." |
Katem, I adore you and this is why, you speak your mind !!!!!Your assessment is sooooo correct. The more that man sweated, the more I became nauseated. There is no reason he should have won. It made me sick. I am really glad you asked me to watch the show. May I say for my first season of watching A.I., it was a HUGE disappointment to me to see how the judges did NOT really "judge" equally. But in fact pushed Ruben. I will not be buying a Ruben CD. I will get in line for the Clay's CD. He has the total package and worked hard as hell to sell himself. America really loves him and he will go far. I want to see him in concert or on the stage. Sugar, you are the best I know for play and movie reviews. You have NEVER let me down. Once again you were right on the money about Clay.
Georgia "The Vigilante" Belle
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CLAYAIKENLOVER Firstname::Bill
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05-24-03, 09:15 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: I hope you all forgive me ....." |
>.... but I am going to
>be nasty now. I can't
>believe that ugly ass, hippo
>eating, sweat magnet, scratchy voiced
>slob won this sucker. The
>person the producers wanted to
>win won.
>
>He's a boring, one tone, and
>type of song singer and
>a really BAD performer. To
>hell with this "competition". I'm
>so mad
>
>GO CLAY !!!!! THE REAL AMERICAN
>IDOL !!!!!
>
>As for the final show, it
>was soooooo underwhelming, very appropriate
>since that slob won.
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>
>(c) 2002, 03 IceCat Originals,
>Inc. All rights reserved. LMAO IM SORRY BUT I HAVE TO AGREE, MAN WAS I P****************D WHEN HE WON. IT BULLCRAP. I TRULY BELIEVE CLAY GOT MORE VOTES AND WON BUT THE PRODUCERS JUST SET IT UP SO THAT RUBEN WOULD WIN B/C HE WAS THE WON EVERYONE INCLUDING THE 3 JUDGES THOUGHT WAS THE MOST MARKETABLE AND PROMOTABLE AND CRAP . IT WAS TOTALLY FIXED. I DONT CARE WHAT THEY SAY. ANDTHEN TO HAVE STUPID RYAN SEACREST GIVE LIKE 50 MILLION (OVEREXAGERATING) DIFFERENT COUNTS OF VOTES BETWEEN THE TWO JUST ABOUT PROVES IT WAS FIXED SO W/E. WE ALLLLLLL KNOW THAT CLAY AIKEN IS THE TRUE WINNER AND THE TRUE AMERICAN IDOL W/ THE TRUE TALENT AND WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY BETTER VOICE THEN ANY OF THEM ON THERE AND BETTER THEN HALF THE SINGERS OUT THERE TODAY. MOST PEOPLE CANT EVEN COME CLOSE TO CLAYS TALENT. AND HE ALSO HAS CLASS, CHARM, MANNERS, AND IS A SWEATHEART AND A COMPLETE GENTLEMAN. I MEANI LIKE RUBEN ADN ALL BUT CLAY IS THE TRUE WINER AND HE DESERVED TO WIN ADN HIS VOICE IS A BILLION TIMES BETTER. SO W/E. BUT CLAY WILL PROVE TO EVERYONE HE IS THE TRUE AMERICAN IDOL WHEN HIS CD SELLS MILLLLLLLLLLIONSSSSSSSS AND RUBENS DOESNT SELL SH*T. SO THERE. GO CLAY AIKEN, I LOOOOOOOOOOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I LOVE MICHAEL JACKSON AND CLAY AIKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE TWO HOTTEST, SEXIEST, AND MOST TALENTED MEN ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OUR TRUE AMERICAN IDOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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MollyTV 480 desperate attention whore postings
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05-22-03, 02:29 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: Spoiler Thread" |
the vote thing is bugging me...of COURSE it was going to be 50/50...why? because they have X number of hours to call...they have X number of phone lines....and if all lines are jammed for the three hours straight.... then X + X =100 %
and the extra 1300 or 13000 votes? those were the people who got through the busy signal faster... the real contest? everyone gets one vote....then i would say wow about how close it is.
molly
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05-23-03, 07:35 PM (EST)
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38. "About the voting" |
I do and do not agree about the one vote per household. My husband and I were both Clay fans and if only one vote per household then only one of us could be heard. That wouldn't be fair either. It would be hard to make it fair but one thing has stood true. The dedication of the Clay fans. It did not surprise me one bit to see how shocked everyone was about Rubens win but anyone with eyes could see that Clay had more talent. Ruben (keep wanting to spell it Reuben) impressed me at first but as the weeks rolled on he never changed, or grew as an entertainer (well not grew like you would think) oops sorry, look at how Clay changed. Not only did he change his image but he proved to be an entertainer through and through. Reuben never changed his style or tone of singing and he really got to be boring. At the end he was even beginning to lose what talent he had.
I will end by saying I will never understand how the ONE contestant that NEVER went in the bottom 2 or 3 is the one who did not win. 
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