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"The Talk of Your Town"
This morning I snapped on the radio and the newscaster was discussing a current movement to have suicide barriers erected on the Golden Gate Bridge. Which is fine, except that this suicide barrier discussion has taken place for the past 25 years I've been living in SF. Similarly, we have been planning on revamping the Bay Bridge (poor stepbridge to the lofty Golden Gate, but a very pretty bridge, BTW, just not orange, and didn't handle the last major quake too well) for the past 25 years.

Where you live, what are the perennial debates? I don't mean the usual political bete noir, but the geographically-specific discussions that never really end...



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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: The Talk of Your Town Lisapooh 02-23-05 1
 RE: The Talk of Your Town Survivorerist 02-23-05 2
   beantown? cqvenus 02-23-05 4
 suicide barriers? cqvenus 02-23-05 3
   RE: suicide barriers? ginger 02-23-05 6
       RE: suicide barriers? thndrkttn 02-23-05 18
           RE: suicide barriers? ginger 02-23-05 21
   RE: suicide barriers? Immunegirl 02-23-05 63
   RE: suicide barriers? consise10 02-23-05 67
 RE: The Talk of Your Town nailbone 02-23-05 5
   RE: The Talk of Your Town ginger 02-23-05 7
       RE: The Talk of Your Town nailbone 02-23-05 10
           RE: The Talk of Your Town ginger 02-23-05 11
               RE: The Talk of Your Town nailbone 02-23-05 30
                   RE: The Talk of Your Town ginger 02-23-05 34
       RE: The Talk of Your Town Molaholic 02-23-05 65
 RE: The Talk of Your Town Seana 02-23-05 8
 RE: The Talk of Your Town anotherkim 02-23-05 9
   RE: The Talk of Your Town ginger 02-23-05 13
   RE: The Talk of Your Town Devious Weasel 02-23-05 15
       RE: The Talk of Your Town Lisapooh 02-23-05 26
           RE: The Talk of Your Town Devious Weasel 02-23-05 27
               RE: The Talk of Your Town Lisapooh 02-23-05 36
                   RE: The Talk of Your Town Devious Weasel 02-23-05 47
                       RE: The Talk of Your Town Lisapooh 02-23-05 49
                           RE: The Talk of Your Town Devious Weasel 02-23-05 50
                               RE: The Talk of Your Town Lisapooh 02-23-05 51
                                   RE: The Talk of Your Town Devious Weasel 02-23-05 53
                                       RE: The Talk of Your Town Lisapooh 02-23-05 55
           RE: The Talk of Your Town ginger 02-23-05 35
               RE: The Talk of Your Town Lisapooh 02-23-05 41
                   RE: The Talk of Your Town ginger 02-23-05 44
       RE: The Talk of Your Town anotherkim 02-23-05 38
   RE: The Talk of Your Town newsomewayne 02-23-05 28
       RE: The Talk of Your Town anotherkim 02-23-05 42
   IMPORTANT UPDATE! anotherkim 02-23-05 40
       RE: IMPORTANT UPDATE! ginger 02-23-05 46
 PSA cqvenus 02-23-05 12
   RE: PSA ginger 02-23-05 16
 RE: The Talk of Your Town Tahj 02-23-05 14
   RE: The Talk of Your Town Seana 02-23-05 31
 RE: The Talk of Your Town newsomewayne 02-23-05 17
   RE: The Talk of Your Town ginger 02-23-05 19
 Drip, drip, leak, leak! greenmonstah 02-23-05 20
   RE: Drip, drip, leak, leak! ginger 02-23-05 23
       RE: Drip, drip, leak, leak! greenmonstah 02-23-05 33
           RE: Drip, drip, leak, leak! ginger 02-23-05 37
           RE: Drip, drip, leak, leak! thndrkttn 02-23-05 43
 RE: The Talk of Your Town FarmBoy 02-23-05 22
   RE: The Talk of Your Town ginger 02-23-05 25
 OOOH cqvenus 02-23-05 24
   RE: OOOH ginger 02-23-05 29
 Three letters... FesterFan1 02-23-05 32
   RE: Three letters... ginger 02-23-05 39
   RE: Three letters... Cygnus X1 02-23-05 56
   RE: Three letters... landruajm 02-24-05 70
 RE: The Talk of Your Town Estee 02-23-05 45
   RE: The Talk of Your Town ginger 02-23-05 48
 RE: The Talk of Your Town Cygnus X1 02-23-05 52
   RE: The Talk of Your Town ginger 02-23-05 54
       I blame Ginger..... AugustGirl 02-23-05 59
           RE: I blame Ginger..... ginger 02-23-05 60
       RE: The Talk of Your Town Cygnus X1 02-23-05 62
 Stiltsville probably clueless 02-23-05 57
 RE: The Talk of Your Town Cygnus X1 02-23-05 58
   RE: The Talk of Your Town ginger 02-23-05 61
 RE: The Talk of Your Town Immunegirl 02-23-05 64
 the terrible roads moonbaby 02-23-05 66
   RE: the terrible roads thndrkttn 02-24-05 69
 RE: The Talk of Your Town Draco Malfoy 02-24-05 68

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1. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
where are we gonna build the new high school football stadium. Not to mention when they are gonna get done widening Eldorado Parkway. And is Taco Delite really going out of business?
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2. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
How about which road are we gonna dig up this summer and then kinda leave there for the next 3 years before finishing so we can dig it up again?


New year, new look, new Erist!

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4. "beantown?"

that has Big Dig written all over it.

~ cq

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3. "suicide barriers?"

that's hot. i mean, if you wanna die, you gotta really *earn* it. by climbing over a suicide barrier. the barrier that will undoubtedly deter few suicide attempts but likely encourage the most bottom-feeding of the DAWs. and also obstruct the view along the way. sweet deal all around, if you ask me.

in my area, well, there's not much that isn't political. so i'll pretend geography and politics are intertwined. hee. i make me laugh. anyway, there's the firing of a $70,000 a year chauffer for the superintendent of somethingsomething. okay. that wasn't very factual.

for real, though, in buffalo, they keep arguing about selling a bit of lakefront city to the seneca tribe so they can build a casino. rumored to bring in hundreds of jobs as well as tourists and of course money, people are protesting the uglification of the city of buffalo in this fashion. which, truth be told, consists of abandoned factories at the moment. people are protesting this casino, and some are encouraging. methinks there will never be a casino because the "city" of buffalo never seems to make decisions that could actually benefit its economy.

~ cq


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6. "RE: suicide barriers?"
We have the Indian casino debates raging here, too. I'm kind of NIMBE about it--feel like native Americans deserve pretty much any reparation we can make, and have no qualms with California's tax arrangements with the tribes to that effect--but don't relish the idea of slot machines and gamers and drinkers (face it, the two pretty frequently meet) in my suburban neighborhoods.

The suicide barrier debate boils down to: Fewer suicides versus Not Very Pretty. And tourists are our lifeblood, so Pretty is important here. There was a guy who filmed leapers all year, much to the City's chagrin, so I think that's why the debate is currently resurfacing.



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18. "RE: suicide barriers?"
but don't relish the idea of slot machines and gamers and drinkers

The Turning Stone Casino near me is owned by the Oneida's and they don't have a liquor license. For musical acts/shows, you can bring in coolers but there is no alcohol served.

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21. "RE: suicide barriers?"
Now, that's a good idea. Which would never in a million years fly in California slot casinos. But it's still a good idea.




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63. "RE: suicide barriers?"
People are protesting the uglification of Buffalo? Does that mean that Buffalo is aesthetically pleasing? Who knew?

Are you sure that the Seneca casino would benefit the economy? I'm not sure that Turning Stone (near my hometown) has been entirely beneficial. (The again, I have been out of the loop for a while and grew up in a town that was not so Pro-Oneidas, so I could be totally off base there.)


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67. "RE: suicide barriers?"
Speaking about suicide barriers and the lovely photo of cygnus being a tourist on the Sanfrancisco Bridge-I`ve just viewed,I want to add to your views about Casino culture and suicide from bridges in major cities,cqvenus.

I am from Melbourne Australia and our biggest bridge is called the Westgate in which many have suicided apparently due to casino related debts.While there are sturdy metal cages and barriers on the entire lenghth of this bridge it doesn`t seem to deter those seriously depressed people from jumping.

The other thing is in our local and national newspapers it never ever gets reported,because it`s seen as too gruesome to tell.You only tend to hear about it from people who know of people who frequent the casino.The Crown Casino has only been in operation here since 1994,i`m guessing,and it has only created an influx of crime within our city.We could honestly do without it as it has been and continues to only spell TROUBLE !!

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5. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
Water. Are we gonna run out? Where are we gona get it when we do? Why did we spend millions of dollars to run people out so we could expand a lake that's south and downhill from us that we can't POSSIBLY get water from?

Oh yeah, and revitalizing the downtown area, and now an area a bit farther out from downtown.


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7. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
Didn't Roman Polanski make a movie out of that?

We in Northern California resent every single drop of water we send Southern California. Southern California pretty much doesn't care what we think.

And when ARE you going to revitalize that downtown?



I mean, I know you're busy and all, but...

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10. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
Actually, there is a MASSIVE project (the largest in the US, so they say) to revitalize a neighborhood close to the university. I think it'll spill over into the downtown area eventually.


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11. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
But the important question is, Will This Be Good For The Boner Family?



I have a shared-solopsistic approach to local debate.

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02-23-05, 03:48 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
Eventually, in that round-about, good for the community kinda way.


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34. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
But don't forget the daughter-now-lives-at-huge-new-mall factor.



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65. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
>We in Northern California resent every single drop of water we send Southern California. Southern California pretty much doesn't care what we think.

So it was you who sent all this frellin rain!



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8. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
The Red Hill Creek Expressway. The lovely Red Hill Valley is being paved so that people can get through the city faster. Actually, they've been debating the expressway (loudly) since I was in high school, and planning since the 1950's.

Recently, environmentalists climbed the trees and stayed up there ŕ la Lisa Simpson, but the current mayor (who I did not vote for) had the completion of the expressway as part of his platform, so...well, there's still the court battles and appeals to the federal government. We'll see. Could still go on for years.

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9. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"

1. Are we going to close schools for 2 days due to flu? (please, please,please,please).

2. What is going in the old KMart building?

3. What kind of school should we build in Spring Hill?

4. WTF is going to happen with the Titans now?


number 1 is really all I care about

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13. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
Are there that many kids/teachers sick?



Troubled. Stephen King books start out like this.

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15. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
What is going on in the old K-Mart building?


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02-23-05, 03:44 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
you care about Kim's K-Mart and don't care about my taco Delite? It's a concern - we don't have hardly any restaurants in Little Elm.
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27. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
I care about the Taco Delite, but it just seems like your standard, everyday closing. Kim acts like something mysterious is going on in the old KMart building. I bet it involves UFOs and Reagan.


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36. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
I think you just choose to see intrigue and mystery with Kim while I am left to "standard, everyday" status. What's going in the K-mart only means what business is going in the K-mart.

Taco Delite can have clandestine meanings too you know. It's almost positively dirty.

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47. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
No, I just don't think the Taco Delite could house UFOs. The old KMart building, on the other hand, could.


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49. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
what if they were little tiny aliens – like from Mercury. Mercurians like jalepenoes and Taco Delite always has plenty of jalapenoes.
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50. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
Okay. I'll grant you the existence of the teeny-tiny, jalapeno lovin' aliens that live at Taco Delite. That explains why it's closing.


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51. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
thank you sneaky ferret for once again proving that stubbornly determined pretty pretty executive princesses will always win.
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53. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
You knew it was just a matter of time...


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55. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
I've found that relentless repetition of tedious and annoying factoids is a wonderful way to win an argument.
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35. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
Is Taco Delight like Chicken Delite? I used to lvoe that stuff.



Would you like us to help in an email campaign?

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41. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
I dunno - does chicken delite only higher corpulent teenagers that put too much fake cheese all over the nachos?
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44. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
Well, I'm sure they probably DID. Don't see too many of their famous revolving (but pre Colonel) buckets any more.

"Don't cook tonight!
Call Chicken Delite!"

You could buy us all lunch at the Taco Delight. That would increase their bottom line, at least today...




I'll be there in just a few minutes.

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38. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
Rumor has it that we may be getting a T.J. Maxx, but I won't believe it 'til I see it.

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28. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
What? 10-care isn't near the top of your list?

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42. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
TennCare will never die. Ever.

I could really go for some Taco Delight, though.

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40. "IMPORTANT UPDATE!"
School has been closed for the next two days! Hurrah!

One school had something like 80 out of 360 absent today. Another had 100 or so out. Our school's epidemic was last week, so hopefully I'll get a nice four-day weekend with my kiddos healthy. We haven't used any of our snow days, so this is a way to use up a couple of them. We still have three to burn before May.

I'm a very happy Kimp right now.


FTR, snow days that we don't use are days that I work for free. That is so wrong in my book.

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46. "RE: IMPORTANT UPDATE!"
That totally sucks! You should not have to pay for Acts of God.



Or the deity of your choice who is making snow.

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12. "PSA"

ginger, you have over twelve thousand posts. wow.

~ cq


that's all

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16. "RE: PSA"
I'm the fattest, D-ist, A-loving W in the woods!



Yes, I was calling me fat.

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14. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
One, in Colorado, is open space vs. rampant development. Guess which one is winning.

And, of course, water. Always water.


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31. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
Urban sprawl's nasty stuff.

I really like the idea of brownfield development. There's at least one company in our city that buys old run-down buildings and converts them to housing or whatever. In an interview, the owner said he's happy enough that everyone else is concentrating on (my words here) messing up the green spaces. More properties for him, and less expensive. There are so many dead warehouses around here (well, there...I'm at work in another city).


Now I want to go hiking. Except it's too frikkin' cold.

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17. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
Around here there's a huge environmental issue about air pollution from vehicles and how it's affecting the Great Smoky Mountains. Some call for stringent vehicle inspections of local vehicles. Some say we need to limit traffic into the park and surrounding areas. Of course, both of these would have major implications on the local, parially-tourist-driven economy.

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19. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
There's an interesting, sort of similar debate going on in nearby Santa Cruz, where a judge is ruling that mountain bikers cannot use this very popular mountain pass because of erosion. Which is sad; I mean, mountain bikers tend to be very environmentally "correct" and certainly the sport is supposed to be a fabulous way to enjoy the mountainside. Don't you hate it when you see both sides of an issue?



Ambivalence itches.

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20. "Drip, drip, leak, leak!"
Just a mini project that all of your tax dollars have contributed to, whether you know it or not. The Big Dig! That lovely public works project that reeks of mismanagement and corruption.


At least the whole new Fenway Park thing has been put to rest for a bit.

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23. "RE: Drip, drip, leak, leak!"
Okay, so 'splain. What's the Big Dig?



*sits down and prepares to take notes*

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33. "RE: Drip, drip, leak, leak!"
Once upon a time, there was an ugly looking, elevated six lane highway known as the Central Artery. It was constructed sometime in the 1950's with no consideration given to landscape, business or residents. The artery was a mistake from the begining...no breakdown lanes, too many points of congestion feeding into the city etc...Construction was halted in order to study how best to solve the problem. Eventually, the last leg of the artery was turned into a tunnel which choked things up even more.

The Central Artery/Tunnel Project (often dubbed The Big Dig) goal was to reconnect downtown Boston with its waterfronts and the hostoric North End. The majority of it is underground and underwater, leaving the cityscape more green, pedestrian friendly and open. The other big point was connecting I90 to the Ted Williams tunnel into Logan.

The only problem has been the complete lack of fiscal management and responsibility. (Enter your federal tax dollars) It is now the most expensive project in US history and oops! went billions of dollars over budget. Seems that project officials have withheld information about a billion dollar cost overrun, which in turn has caused congressional disdain and federal investigation.



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37. "RE: Drip, drip, leak, leak!"
Ah. Sounds like the same fine engineering/administrative team is working on your Dig as is working on the Bay Bridge here. (Remember, the GGate took about ten years to design, fund and build. This revamp of the Bay Bridge is INSANELY overbudget and in its third decade, with absolutely nothing achieved). Perhaps a civic exchange program is in order?



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43. "RE: Drip, drip, leak, leak!"
Seems that project officials have withheld information about a billion dollar cost overrun, which in turn has caused congressional disdain and federal investigation.

Just the thought of working on an investigation like that makes me thoroughly ill.

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22. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
What happened to the elevator reports?


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25. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
El took a vacation (leaving us with a mind-curdling autoloop of factoids and adverts) for about a month, but is now back; I quoted El quoting Woodrow Wilson on the Presidential Countdown thresd.



El also says "Hi!" and thanks you for asking!

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24. "OOOH"

in nyc (what i call hometown) they are going to put the nets in brooklyn? yes, that's a question.

~ cq


now, please, *some* of us have to go to school. and give cheez-its to our classmates.

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29. "RE: OOOH"
Hmm. Both BF and my father went to Brooklyn Tech High School, and neither of them mentioned this net thing.



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32. "Three letters..."
LAST EDITED ON 02-23-05 AT 04:00 PM (EST)

I. C. C.

Here's the latest noise from Kommissar Ehrlich. Read at your own risk. Pain reliever not included.

Fester
Another way to tell if you're a Merlinder. You know what those letters stand for...and just thinking about them gives you a headache.

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39. "RE: Three letters..."
I dunno. Anything that gets that many suits standing in that much muck...



But I.C.C. your point.

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56. "RE: Three letters..."
I'm for the ICC...in principle. But knowing the PTB, the bloody thing will be insufficient the moment it's opened. Whenever that is.

And why doesn't I-95 run through DC like it should?


If the Techway Bridge could then go into a 5-mile tunnel, I'd be for that too. But otherwise, the outer crossing would cause way too much development in Northern Montgomery County.

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70. "RE: Three letters..."
The ICC doesn't give me a headache. Nimby morons dredging up any bullsh!t argument they can find to oppose a badly needed road that's been on the master plan for forty freakin' years give me a headache. Idiots who think that a road through a highly developed area chock full of can't-get-there-from-here is going to cause more development give me a headache. Driving 15 miles south to get to the Beltway to drive 8 miles north to get to your house (both of us living in pretty well suburbanized areas) gives me a headache. Reflex treehuggers who don't think it should be relatively pain-free to get from my county to yours, or to your county of origin, give me a headache. Duck-loving wetlands freaks who haven't grasped that we live in a freakin' swamp give me a headache.

Because guess what? Ducks are smart enough to relocate out of the way of highway construction. Unlike the vapid legions who've been opposing the ICC for so long that they actually think the money targeted for ICC would go into extending the Metro to West Friendship.

Not that I love Fester any less.

This? Is a perfect example of why I voted for Bobby E.

Yeah, just kidding. But I mean it about the freakin' ICC.

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45. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
Regulating our car insurance rates to bring them into line with the rest of the country, not to mention reality. I mentioned on the dialect thread that the state sport was figuring out how to get your car insured somewhere else. Due to various stupid laws that no one ever touches, we pay more than anyone else in the Fifty, to the point where an experienced driver with a completely safe record is still looking at a four-digit bill and what Jerseyans like to call 'Your Fault Insurance': no matter how it happened, it's Your Fault and your rates will go up by fifty percent. You may have noticed that every car insurance commercial ends with 'Not Applicable In New Jersey'. Guess why. They have a license to gouge and they're taking it. Every politician promises to reform this and no one ever does.
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48. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
I'd blame Tony Soprano.



Sorry. That was a cheap Jersey shot.

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52. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
I'll get to the talk of my town septel. (that's government-ese for "in a separate message")

I've only had the privilege of coming to SF once. Still have the tie I bought in the GGB gift shop, where I was in a definite minority of English speakers. But I digress.

Yep, you've got to have the tourists like us who gawk at the GGB. Judging from the height above the water and the power of the current, I reckon most of those who want to end it all from the GGB, sadly, will succeed.

There's no easy answer here. Barriers would definitely detract from the esthetic quality of the GGB. But you don't want to ENcourage more people to jump, either. (The Sunshine Skyway in Tampa has put suicide hotline phones at the top of its span. To me, I wouldn't have considered the idea until seeing the phones. And folks occasionally jump off the Chesapeake Bay Bridge here.)

Analogous to this were the calls for barriers to be put up around Baltimore's Harborplace when someone in a wheelchair fell into the Inner Harbor and drowned, despite rescue attempts. But I agree that the water's edge is its own barrier. You don't want to go too close. With no disrespect to that person intended, we can't save everyone from everything, try as we might.


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54. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
Agree with all you say. Anyone who jumps of the GG Bridge is pretty serious--it is NOT a "cry for attention." There is no margin of error (although I actually knew a girl who jumped and survived, a bitter, miserable quadrapalegic for the rest of her life). The barriers would probably not prevent too many leapers. As I posted waaaaaaay at the top, I think we're considering the barriers, again, because of this creepy documentary.

People also leap of the "Hollywood" sign in Los Angeles but it would look pretty fecking stupid with barriers around it.

Hope you liked SF...I actually think it's a pretty sweet town.



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59. "I blame Ginger....."
Maryland had 3 earthquakes today. Certainly not on the "Tumble California into the Sea" magnitude, but earthquakes nonetheless.

I did not feel a thing.

Oh! The other thing we're talking about is the snow we're getting tomorrow (4-8 inches).

As to on going topics? I tune it out.


No, the earth did not move for Augie.

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60. "RE: I blame Ginger....."
See? No one ever comments when other states quake. One of the worst faults (also due to "go off" within the next half a century, BTW) lies beneath Louisiana. We are not the only foolhardy ones!




Trust me, quakes you can feel are kind of nauseating, if not downright scary.

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62. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
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SF is a gorgeous city. Coming across the Bay Bridge as dusk approached and the lights were coming up over the financial district (even on a Sunday) was a first impression I won't soon forget.

I won't bore you with a bunch of touristy stuff, save for this:

A cow-orker suggested DW and I check out Jack's for dinner. We'd been all around Pier 39, been to Alcatraz, etc., and were clad in sweatshirts and jeans. I noticed a doorman outside Jack's. I poked my head in the door and asked a maitre 'd if there was a dress code. He said no.

Well, maybe not...but we were the only ones there NOT in business clothing! I felt like a bucket under a bull. But it was a good meal! Guess they choose not to turn down tourists.


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57. "Stiltsville"

A classic waterbased communiity.

More here:
http://www.stiltsville.org


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58. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
  • Slots. The majority wants them, but enough legislators (including the State Speaker of the House) to gum up the works have prevented them so far. Opposition is small but vocal. Rationale for slots is to keep the money that goes 30 minutes away to Charles Town, WV (and to DE and, soon, PA) in MD instead. (Distribution of state license plates on cars in Charles Town's garage: 1. VA; 2. MD; 3. DC.)

  • Growth/Quality of life. Frederick County was the fastest-growing in the country for a couple years (a mantle now taken by Loudoun County, VA, our neighbor to the south). Longtime residents HATE that this has become a DC bedroom community, especially for those fleeing higher real estate prices to the south. If the old-timers could bulldoze new developments and keep this as agrarian an area as possible, they would. (Granted, that is part of the appeal of this area.) Growth as a result has slowed, but the tax base hasn't kept up.

  • Traffic. I-270 ("The Big Ugly") is murder because it's the only way to DC. Money is not there for a much-needed lane expansion, so toll lanes have been proposed. One county commissioner even proposed, to fund an I-270 intersection expansion, charging all drivers a dime at four different entry points. Welcome to the Garden State Parkway, Maryland Extension.

  • Water. A major drought in 2002, coupled with growth, has made water and where to get it a huge concern. A pipeline is being built to the Potomac River, but more sources may be needed, especially if growth continues.


    "Welcome to Frederick County. Now Stay Out."

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    61. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
    You know, this thresd is interesting, because we are all from all over the map and yet water and expansion are common themes. Particularly water.



    Kevin Costner may have the last laugh after all.

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    64. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
    Monsty already mentioned the Big Dig. Other than that, the main stuff concerns the Red Sox-both the prospects for the year and crazy ways to try and get tickets.

    In my more immediate vicinity, people are asking what's going to happen to Merck's new (empty) building (and also the company at large) and what (if anything) to do about Larry Summers.


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    66. "the terrible roads"
    and the overly aggressive people that drive them. Yep, periodically troopers are assigned to certain stretches of highway to give out tickets for overly aggressive driving. It really is almost overwhelming to drive on any highway or expressway around here.

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    69. "RE: the terrible roads"
    Driving in NYC is certainly an experience. Whenever I take my car into the city it is almost as though I have to put my game face on. You have to be completely aware of what's going on or your going to either run over something or be run over.

    I became pretty good at it when I was driving over there everyday but now I am out of practice. I could make it from Queens to Hoboken in 21 minutes at 6:00am. 34th was my own personal race track.

    - *sob* I miss New York

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    68. "RE: The Talk of Your Town"
    Well, right now Curtis Sliwa is trying to get a chapter of the Guardian Angels back in Dallas. That's kinda news I guess.


    I should really watch the news more.

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