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"05/18 Episode Discusion"
Let's chat it up! The flashbacks are all over the place not just one person.

Sawyer told Jack about drinking with his father in the bar!

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 *sniffle* moonbaby 05-18-05 1
 RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion BLefeb1781 05-18-05 2
   yes! moonbaby 05-18-05 4
       RE: yes! volsfan 05-18-05 5
           I taped it moonbaby 05-18-05 7
               RE: I taped it volsfan 05-18-05 8
       RE: yes! BLefeb1781 05-18-05 6
           RE: yes! JustLis 05-19-05 14
           RE: yes! dragonflies 05-19-05 19
 I admit it.... HobbsofMI 05-18-05 3
   The ship Chez 05-19-05 42
       RE: The ship chick 05-19-05 53
           RE: The ship Tahj 05-19-05 54
 RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion zombiebaby 05-18-05 9
   One more thing... zombiebaby 05-18-05 10
       RE: One more thing... JustLis 05-19-05 11
       RE: One more thing... J Slice 05-19-05 12
       Sayid's bag weltek 05-19-05 28
   RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion JustLis 05-19-05 13
       RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion Matrixman 05-20-05 75
   RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion batts 05-19-05 17
       RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion J Slice 05-19-05 37
           RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion Roo 05-19-05 40
   RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion AugustGirl 05-19-05 18
   Me too Breezy 05-19-05 21
       RE: Me too brvnkrz 05-19-05 23
           RE: Me too PepeLePew13 05-21-05 79
   Crying.... MDSkinner 05-19-05 39
 RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion Corvis 05-19-05 15
   RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion brvnkrz 05-19-05 24
       RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion Devious Weasel 05-19-05 30
           Originally they hoped for J I M B O 05-19-05 62
       RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion rjrabbit 05-19-05 65
           RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion J I M B O 05-19-05 66
           RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion brvnkrz 05-19-05 67
           OH.MY.HECK! volsfan 05-19-05 68
   Jin Devious Weasel 05-19-05 32
       RE: Jin TenPin 05-19-05 46
           RE: Jin zombiebaby 05-19-05 56
           RE: Jin Devious Weasel 05-19-05 59
               RE: Jin J I M B O 05-19-05 63
       RE: Jin weltek 05-19-05 57
       I dunno FesterFan1 05-19-05 58
           Obeying the rules Estee 05-19-05 61
 RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion calamityc 05-19-05 16
   RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion dragonflies 05-19-05 20
   RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion BLefeb1781 05-19-05 22
       the scratches moonbaby 05-19-05 29
       Locke didn't run Breezy 05-19-05 35
       RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion JustLis 05-21-05 78
 RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion Roo 05-19-05 25
 RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion jkokoj 05-19-05 26
   RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion brvnkrz 05-19-05 27
       RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion Pensha26 05-19-05 36
   RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion Devious Weasel 05-19-05 31
       But jkokoj 05-19-05 38
   RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion Risti 05-20-05 70
   RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion PepeLePew13 05-21-05 80
 RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion HistoryDetective 05-19-05 33
   RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion Devious Weasel 05-19-05 34
       RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion HistoryDetective 05-20-05 76
 RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion joannie 05-19-05 41
   RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion zombiebaby 05-19-05 43
       RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion J I M B O 05-19-05 64
 Chronic Addiction calamityc 05-19-05 44
 Missing scenes? RE: 05/18 Episode ... Roo 05-19-05 45
   RE: Missing scenes? RE: 05/18 Epis... TenPin 05-19-05 47
       RE: Missing scenes? RE: 05/18 Epis... calamityc 05-19-05 49
   OMH!!!! Breezy 05-19-05 48
       RE: OMH!!!! brvnkrz 05-19-05 50
           Good question Breezy 05-19-05 51
               RE: Good question Devious Weasel 05-19-05 60
                   RE: Good question HauntedOne 05-19-05 69
   Holy Crap! Canada Girl 05-19-05 55
 RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion blacknwhitedog 05-19-05 52
   RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion BLefeb1781 05-20-05 72
       RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion Canada Girl 05-20-05 73
 The Black Rock and the explosives AugustGirl 05-20-05 71
   RE: The Black Rock and the explosiv... Breezy 05-20-05 74
   RE: The Black Rock and the explosiv... realitycoholic 05-21-05 77
       RE: The Black Rock and the explosiv... AugustGirl 05-22-05 81
           RE: The Black Rock and the explosiv... realitycoholic 05-22-05 82
               RE: The Black Rock and the explosiv... pax 05-23-05 83
                   RE: The Black Rock and the explosiv... Lost 05-23-05 84
                       RE: The Black Rock and the explosiv... zombiebaby 05-23-05 85
                       RE: The Black Rock and the explosiv... volsfan 05-23-05 86
                           RE: The Black Rock and the explosiv... Lost 05-23-05 87
                           RE: The Black Rock and the explosiv... Lost 05-23-05 88
                               RE: The Black Rock and the explosiv... volsfan 05-23-05 89
                                   RE: The Black Rock and the explosiv... Lost 05-23-05 90
                                       RE: The Black Rock and the explosiv... zombiebaby 05-23-05 91
                                           RE: The Black Rock and the explosiv... volsfan 05-24-05 92
                                           RE: The Black Rock and the explosiv... Lost 05-24-05 93
                                               Estee's Link zombiebaby 05-24-05 95
                                                   RE: Estee's Link Lost 05-24-05 96
                       RE: The Black Rock and the explosiv... Roo 05-24-05 94

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1. "*sniffle*"
I'm too verklempt
Can't wait 'til next week!

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2. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
All I can say is WOW! Did they happen to show the preview for next week?? We in Canada did not get it.

~Brenda

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4. "yes!"
LAST EDITED ON 05-22-05 AT 09:43 PM (EST)

Here's what I remember: something shows up on the raft's radar at night, and Sawyer was shown diving into the water (I think that was in daylight). Trying to think what else...oh! Claire is shown with thet French woman who is asking if she can hold the baby. Following that is Claire screaming "She took my baby!"

Based on newer preview: It is Locke being dragged through the jungle into a kind of a hole and Jack is trying to keep him from being pulled in. Locke says he'll be ok. Then there's a snippet of Jack talking to Locke asking who brought them to the island. Locke says the island did. Also an explosion is shown. OOoooooEEEEEooooo!

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5. "RE: yes!"
I haven't gone back to watch the tape but I thought she said "She took my baby!" or "She killed my baby!" I hope it is took!
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7. "I taped it"
and just re-watched the preview. I'm not sure if Claire said he or she but it was definitely took.
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8. "RE: I taped it"
KEWL! Thanks!
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6. "RE: yes!"
Arrrrghhhh....I am soo jealous! I can't believe the "Black Rock" is a ship. Whats up with that????? What I didn't see was the monster...was it shown??? It totally sounds like a Dino.

~Brenda

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14. "RE: yes!"
I didn't see it at all, either.

But it was described as a security system for the island, but definitely had a different "sound" tonight. In earlier episodes, it did sound like some kind of dinosaur, definitely animal-like.... But tonight it definitely sounded mechanical, almost like a hugely oversized robot with a heavy stomping step to it....

Lis

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19. "RE: yes!"
Have we heard the name of the ship Danielle came on? Is this it?

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3. "I admit it...."
LAST EDITED ON 05-18-05 AT 09:09 PM (EST)

I think I cried two or three times...."Jamies" and Jack, Sun and Jin, Vincent and Walt....

Ok...now why is Jack not married....

Oh...nice boat they found....1600's....we should be able to find the year from the numbers.


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42. "The ship"
I'm guessing the ship could have become stranded there if a big volcano caused the island to be created just as the ship was passing nearby. I'm not sure if a few hundred years would be enough time for the geography to have developed the way it has, however.

Or as an alternative, a huge tidal wave (tsunami?) could have occurred and engulfed the island temporarily, sweeping the ship onto it. That theory may make more sense.

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53. "RE: The ship"
My hubby thinks the ship is Noah's Ark, and that's how the polar bear got there......
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54. "RE: The ship"
Lol.



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9. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
I sniffled when Walt gave Vincent to Shannon...

I sniffled when Sawyer told Jack about Daddy...

But I bawled when Sun and Jin had their moment. Just so unexpected and so touching. These two actors are tremendous and I hope they get recognized around awards time. They are hands down my favorite characters on not only Lost but on all of TV. Most.Interesting. Story.

I wonder if all the survivors were in rows that matched the lottery numbers?

I never loved a show so much and yet still wished the whole show was over so we can find out what is going on!!!! I felt they gave us answers tonight to stuff we wanted to know but in the end it turns out that is not that important, we have to go further back.


Is it Wednesday yet?

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10. "One more thing..."
Why would Sayid or anyone leave their bag unattended with someone in an airport post-911?

Makes me think we was trying to get taken off the flight on purpose. Was the CIA or FBI forcing him to go on this flight?


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11. "RE: One more thing..."
If I recall correctly, the CIA had bought him tickets for the same flight one day earlier, but he had demanded to stay the additional day to properly bury his friend.

My guess is that he's guilt-ridden; Nadia is at the other end of that flight, but the information to find her was ultimately bought with his friend's life. Maybe he felt guilty enough that he was prepared to give up everything.

Or maybe he just needed to go to the bathroom and trusted a pertty young lady to watch his bag.

Lis

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12. "RE: One more thing..."
If I recall, the CIA wanted Sayid outta there.


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28. "Sayid's bag"
SOMETHING was screwy about that. Sayid is a very smart man. He wouldn't have just left his bag there like that. It was a small bag he could've carried with him to the bathroom or a shop. He did it on purpose, although I'm not sure why.

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13. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
I wonder if all the survivors were in rows that matched the lottery numbers?

Jack was in 23 B.

Anna Lucille (sp?) was in 42 F.

It seemed that a great deal of the conversation went into pointing out she was in the tail section of the plane. I suspect this isn't the last we'll see of her -- giving even stronger indication more survivors will be discovered (maybe those who answered Boone's distress call?).

Lis

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75. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
I agree with Justlis on this. Also remember in the episode where Jack was talking with the black woman. She said she believes her husband is still out there and to have faith. I think they were split up on the plane and he was in the tail section as well. I remember her sitting next to Jack on the plane but he was not next to her. There will definitely be surivivors from the tail section.
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17. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
YOU CRIED TOO? I bawled like a baby when Sun and Jin were facing each other for the last time! OM gosh! What a moment!

Sooo the monster is a security system of some sort.... and eats pilots and who knows what else! A security system, to protect what? The hatch? The others? ..... what does it protect as a security system? The Black Rock ship thing? Every clue that pops up brings dozens more questions to mind......

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37. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
I was sniffing and bawling and hysterical with Jin and Sun. My favorites on the whole show... waaaaah... I hope he comes out alive!


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40. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
The "sensitive" Jin was amazingly attractive!!!


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18. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
I cried like a baby for most of the episode.

I am so ready for it to be next Wednesday, yet not ready for the summer break. I don't think I can wait until Fall for it to come back.

ARGH!!!!!


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21. "Me too"
Jin and Sun's scene was soooo moving. *snif* waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

The black rock is an old ship?!!?!?!?!


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23. "RE: Me too"
GF told me I was dead inside because the only time I shed a tear was when I thought the dog was going to drown. I did however have a bit of a lump in my throat when Sawyer told Jack about his Dad. We were yelling at the tv when Jack was leaving, "Sawyer,tell him about his dad!!!!"

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79. "RE: Me too"
Wow, I must be really dead inside... I didn't feel sad at any point in the show, just enjoyed the storylines weaving in and out throughout the episode.



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39. "Crying...."
I like to think I am a manly man, but I even welled up a bit when Vincent started swimming out to Walt. Tremendous episode.
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15. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
Great penultimate episode. Although it didn't feel complete, it definitely set up next week's season finale well.

I think Sawyer is going to die though. As soon as he told Jack about his father, I thought that was it, Sawyer is not going to survive the boat trip.

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24. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
We had the same thoughts at our house. We may have thought that maybe Jack was doomed but he was on a talk show yesterday and said that he had originally tried out for the part of Sawyer and then they cast him as Jack. In the original pilot, Jack was supposed to die. Based on the fact that they could have killed him off from the get go we realized that it wouldn't be Jack who died, that it would probably be Sawyer. Although I hope not. He makes me drool.

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30. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
That original death-in-the-pilot thing is somewhat overblown. The intent was to cast a big name star, someone who never did TV, publicize the hell out of the fact that big name star was in the cast, then kill him. They felt this would shock the audiences. That plan went out the door when they cast Matthew Fox. So, there was never any intent to kill Matthew Fox's Jack in the pilot episode.


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62. "Originally they hoped for"

this guy...but the flav wasn't available.

did i do it right mr. d.?

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65. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
Sawyer makes you drool? Me too! Although I've always had a thing for Matthew Fox since his Party of Five days.



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66. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"

so you'd be ok if the fox was after the rabbit?


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67. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
Where on earth have you been. *smooch*

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68. "OH.MY.HECK!"
so good to see ya! I agee with knockers...where the heck have u been!
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32. "Jin"
I think Sawyer makes it. I think Jin is the one in trouble. As soon as Sun asked him "Who's going to keep you safe" or whatever it was she said I felt "That's it - he's doomed."


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46. "RE: Jin"
I have to agree that Jin could be in real trouble. In spoiling survivor we have always looked at character redemption as the end of someone’s story line on the show. Sun and Jin kiss and make up just in time for him to go without leaving unresolved issues.

BUT, I really don’t think Michael is in the clear at all. Where else is his storyline going to go? He built the raft, and now it has set sail. Yes he is Walt’s father, but to me that seems like a good excuse to kill him off and force some kind of action on Walt’s part. Walt will then be forced to choose whom to align with or Michael’s death could open the door to more of Walt’s “powers”. Michael seems to be holding Walt back a little bit, and I could totally see Michael die to open up Walt’s story a whole lot more.


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56. "RE: Jin"
Plus he wears a red shirt


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59. "RE: Jin"
If Jin dies, then Michael and Sun have possibilities.


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63. "RE: Jin"

great point. i was about to agree on michael's story not going anywhere, but when you said that i thot of the awkward hug between he and sun.

i would like to see walt on his own though.

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57. "RE: Jin"
I agree that Jin may be in trouble. What was the spoiler quote-something about one of the hot raft guys being in trouble? We automatically assume that's Sawyer, but in all the interviews, Daniel Kim was always asked about being surprised about the number of women that think he's hot.

Plus, I don't think the language barrier makes him a good character to keep around. It's not like he's going to become fluent in English in a few months. The flashbacks are also difficult because of the language translation.

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58. "I dunno"
I think as narratives go, Michael makes more sense as the doomed raft guy. The Jin/Sun storyline is a really, really good one. It's complex. It's subtle. It's human. Watching Jin develop as a character holds a lot more intrigue than watching Michael. There's the language thing, the culture thing, the customs thing. With Michael it's just the parenting thing, and that's been done to death.

It would be a bit maudlin to have Walt lose both parents within a few months of each other, but if Michael died a heroic death, then that serves its own narrative goals. There would also be a lot to do surrounding Walt's growth as relates to the tribe as a whole.

I think Sawyer's absolutely safe. There are layers upon layers with this guy. Frankly, I'm glad they've cooled the Kate/Sawyer link, because that's the easy route with that character. He's got a lot to sort out. There are still some unanswered questions with him. Michael's story has pretty much been told.

Yeah, if I'm writing the story, Michael goes next.

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61. "Obeying the rules"
Plus the series is at least twenty-five percent horror and the fifth law of horror is 'Kill the black guy'.

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16. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
Fabulous episode! I was so riveted I hardly know what to think about first!
Sun and Jin: I love them, but I am afraid one of them is not going to make it to next season. It would make more of a twist if Sun doesn't survive whatever happens on the island and Jin has to come back off the raft to find her gone.
Sawyer: Who could think?? He had his shirt off for a quarter of the episode!
Jack: Maybe some closure since he knows his Dad didn't hate him. If they bring back the girl from the tail section, could be some rivalry with her and Kate.
Kate: we know how the toy plane got from the car seat to the bank box.
I am really wondering what they are going to let us know about the "others". Could they be a native tribe and has the baby Alex grown up with them? Until this episode I thought Danielle's baby was a boy.

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20. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
Sawyer: Who could think?? He had his shirt off for a quarter of the episode!
Glad to know I wasn't the only one 'distracted'

Did the Science Teacher see the monster/security system???

so many questions still left...

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22. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
I just thought of something which really didn't seem important last night. What was up with the scratches on Danielle's arm?? Lock seem to be pretty interested when he saw them. Could Danielle finally be infected with the same "sickness" that her team originally was?? Would it explain why after showing no interest in the other survivors before, she comes to warn them. Oh and why would she say that the "Others" were coming and they only had 3 choices (Run, Hide or Die). The "others" did not kill her team...she did. The only thing that they took was the baby. Wouldn't the only people in danger be the ones protecting Claire's baby???

Another thing. We know that Lock and the "monster" have come face to face. Why then would Lock run like the others did when it was coming?? Also Lock has said that he's seem the island's eye. To me that would centre around the "Black Rock". Shouldn't he have known where to get the TNT? Soo many questions....is it Wednesday yet??

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29. "the scratches"
looked person inflicted, I thought.

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35. "Locke didn't run"
He told Hurly to stay and they both just stood there.

And I agree with Moonie, I thought the scratches were self-inflicted.
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78. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
LAST EDITED ON 05-21-05 AT 01:08 AM (EST)

Could Danielle finally be infected with the same "sickness" that her team originally was?? Would it explain why after showing no interest in the other survivors before, she comes to warn them. Oh and why would she say that the "Others" were coming and they only had 3 choices (Run, Hide or Die). The "others" did not kill her team...she did. The only thing that they took was the baby. Wouldn't the only people in danger be the ones protecting Claire's baby???

Hmmmm.... I didn't think about this. Jin, Michael, and Sawyer left on the raft. Look at who went with her: Locke, Jack, Kate, Hurley.... She has taken all of the strongest defenders of the baby with her -- to a stash of unstable dynamite. Could Danielle, for whatever reason, now only be the DIVERSION, to allow "The Others" access to Claire's baby?

As pure speculation, is it possible she was captured and held by "The Others" (thus the scratches), and then offered her own Alex back (now that she's 16 and no longer a child) in return for helping them to capture the new child?

Edited to add: I just now read the discussion further down the thread, in which it looks like Danielle rescued Claire and her baby from Ethan.... I wonder if she first tried to avoid the same fate for Claire's child, but now may be trying to rescue her own.... Good catch on the scratches on Ethan and Danielle....

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25. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
Oh.my.heck. What a fantabulous episode with some incredible acting. The scene with Sawyer and Jack was so moving. I was crying when Jin and Sun said their goodbyes. I just love these two characters.

Things that made me say "whoa, dude":
1. The monster is a security system.
2. The Black Rock is a ship.
3. Locke telling Hurley to stay still when the monster approached. It reminded me of Jurassic Park, where if they remainded still, the T-Rex wouldn't be able to see them.
4. We know that Anna Lucia (?) was in the tail section, but we also know that she's going to be a new character. Methinks we'll be seeing even more survivors next season.



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26. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
Yes I cried, yes I was distracted by Sawyer sans shirt, yes I was more worried about Vincent than Walt and finally, WE NEED SUMMARY WRITERS FOR NEXT SEASON!!


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27. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
You couldn't be more right about the summary writers. That is a must.

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36. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
I second that, but I am a numbers guy not a writer.
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31. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
I'm in. On the other hand, ABC provides pretty complete summaries on their Web site.


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38. "But"
those ABC writers are not as entertaining and as good as you Weasel!


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70. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
If you don't mind a virgin summary writer, definately count me in.

I'm planning on doing a recap/commentary of Canadian Idol all summer long, so I should have my summary writing skills down by next season.

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80. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
Oh yeah, I wouldn't mind doing a summary as well! I know ABC has some good summaries on there, but we need SNARK from our people in these summaries.



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33. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
Sawyer told Jack about drinking with his father in the bar!

That? would have been the perfect opportunity for them to confess their love for each other and get some kissing action going on.


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34. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
Sawyer and Jack's father kissing? Ewww.


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76. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
I meant Sawyer and Jack.


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41. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
When I saw the scratches on Danielle's arm, I thought about the scratches on Ethan's face after Claire mysteriously escaped. Maybe Danielle was in cahoots with Ethan. Or maybe they both got "scratched" by the "monster."

We also learned during this episode that Alex is a 16-year old girl.

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43. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
...maybe Claire scratched them both?


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64. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"

maybe it was danielle who was responsible for claire 'escaping'...and maybe that was why she knew they would be coming again, or why she even cared enough to warn them.
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44. "Chronic Addiction"
This is a sad and sorry state of affairs, I went to sleep thinking about Lost and woke up still pondering. This is a testament to the actors and writers, because this has NEVER happened to me with a tv show. I enjoy certain ones and may post a drib or drab when something really gets my attention--but this one? Is KILLING me!!!
Number one on my mind was why the "others" want babies. I like some of the radiation theories that have been advanced, so to take that further, maybe the "others" can't reproduce, so they need the babies to keep the group going? I don't believe they are taking them and killing them. Also plays into psychic prediction that Claire must raise the baby or it will be evil.
And what did Danielle's team members do that was so horrifying she thought they had to be killed? Just what does the sickness do?
Walt is a secret weapon because he knows things he shouldn't know...but that means he has to return from the raft. I think he will make it back from the raft but Michael won't. So who will become his father figure? It would have been Locke until the last few episodes. I think Walt has seen something in Locke that has made him pull away.

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45. "Missing scenes? RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
I was reading the summary on abc.com, and there are 2 scenes there that I don't remember seeing last night.

From:
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/episodes/2004-05/23.html


Back at the beach, Claire asks Rousseau how she knows her. She can't place it, but she knows they have met before. But that's impossible, and Rousseau says as much. Claire tells her about Ethan kidnapping her, that she escaped, but she can't remember how. Rousseau ignores her and busies herself with the new hiking boots she has obviously liberated from the camp. Something seems to click inside Claire. "You saved me, didn't you? That's why I remember you, you saved me from him." Rousseau gives a quick look to Claire and then to the baby. "We have never met." And with that she walks away.

and

We FLASHBACK to the Sydney airport and see Sayid considering that same necktie on a rack with many others. A woman is helping him decide. She asks him what he will be using it for. "I'm going to see a woman." Sayid asks her to pick it for him and she points him towards the yellow one. As she rings it up she asks the girl's name and Sayid can't help but smile when he tells her. "Nadia." And as he is lost in the emotion of finally seeing his love again, the airport police arrive and ask him if he left a bag unattended earlier. He tries to tell them that he asked someone (Shannon) to watch it for him, but they aren't hearing it and tell him he needs to come with them. "Of course I do."


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47. "RE: Missing scenes? RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
WOW...

These seem a little too important to edit out. I also don't remember this:

Charlie and Claire watch Rousseau from a distance and worry. Charlie does his best to comfort the girl he cares so much for, but it's an uphill battle. Claire tells Charlie that, when she escaped from Ethan -- however she got away -- she knew they would come back for her. Charlie realizes something. "Is that why you haven't named the baby?" Claire's eyes fill with tears, but remain firmly fixed on Rousseau. She nods her answer.

It gives an ominous reason for Claire not naming the baby yet.

Maybe the episode was just too long, but the information seems pretty important to me.


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49. "RE: Missing scenes? RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
Wow is right! What a good catch Roo and TenPin. I didn't see those scenes either and was watching in a very focused state! Makes sense that someone had to help Claire escape.
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48. "OMH!!!!"
Danielle saving Claire would fit in to the one theory with the scratches.

So Sayid is detained by the airport police.

Why didn't we see these scenes last night? Will we see them next week?


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50. "RE: OMH!!!!"
I don't understand why they wouldn't show these scenes. I bet when the DVD comes out they will be included as deleted scenes.
Do you think they would release a DVD before the season picks up again or will we just get reruns? Are there any plans for a DVD?
I want a DVD dammnit!!!!

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51. "Good question"
How long will we have to wait for the DVD? I want it now!!!!
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60. "RE: Good question"
Early September, about a week before Season Two begins. They are going to repeat the entire season starting on Wednesday, June 1.


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69. "RE: Good question"
DVD release is September 6th. Can be pre-ordered now from several places. Amazon, Wal-Mart, etc.
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55. "Holy Crap!"
That's HUGE. I'm so glad you picked up on these extras.

DVDs can't come soon enough!

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52. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
Wow- read through the ABC summary here-
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/episodes/2004-05/23.html

There is A LOT in it that was not in the show last night.



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72. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
Did I fall asleep or something. I don't remember the French lady talking to Claire and Claire asking her if she (Dannielle)rescued her from Ethan?

As per the summary on ABC that happened.

Anyone see this?

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73. "RE: 05/18 Episode Discusion"
Nope, they didn't show it!

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71. "The Black Rock and the explosives"
Some questions:

Approximately how old is the Black Rock? 200 years? 300? Older? I know nothing about maritime history and have no idea what era the Black Rock sailed in from, so can anyone help? Any guesses?

Where did the explosives come from? In the preview the crates are clearly marked "Explosives" in black, modern era lettering. Ain't no way a 200 year old ship, much less a 300 year old ship had crates with that kind of lettering.

Can anyone provide screen shots? I thought I saw a faint name on the back of ship, but I can't be sure. My VCR is not that great and the slow mo is rather shaky, and the pause is just as crappy. However I am quite positive the lettering of the explosives is fairly recent. Could Danielle's research party brought the explosives? Why move it to the Black Rock?


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74. "RE: The Black Rock and the explosives"
I don't know how to do screen shots, but I still have the episode on my Tivo. I'll do some pausing and staring tonight. Oh yeah at the ship too. *grin*
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77. "RE: The Black Rock and the explosives"
August,

The name on the back of the ship was Black Rock...

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81. "RE: The Black Rock and the explosives"
That is what I thought, I just couldn't see it.


I really need to get TIVO. Or a better VCR. Or something.

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82. "RE: The Black Rock and the explosives"
August,

TiVo is a MUST for any serious reviewing! What did I ever do without it...

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83. "RE: The Black Rock and the explosives"
I'm thinking that all of the survivors have crossed paths sometime in the past, long before they got on the plane. What if there was either a series of linked incidents -- or one big incident -- where they all were together, but since none of them knew each other then, they wouldn't have known it or remembered it? Something that had supernatural roots/implications that perhaps created Walt's powers? It'd make a great scene: `hey, i once was here or there,' and someone else pipes up `Really? Me too.'

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84. "RE: The Black Rock and the explosives"
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New to this board. Like this thread and wanted to post some comments, thoughts and questions. Sorry if I repeat previous discussions.

The writing on the ship is Black Rock, Portsmouth.

It appears no one knew each other prior to the flight but several people have crossed paths with others. Jack dad and Sawyer for one which was played out last week. Kate's mother was at Jack's wedding. (screen shot on lost-media.com). I think that Jin may be aware of who Hurley (Hugo) is because he was on Japanese tv.

The scratches...Didn't Jack end up with scratches in the pilot eppi? When him, Kate and Charlie were running from the "monster" they got split up. When Kate and Charlie found Jack he seemed pretty calm for just being chased by that thing and saying he didn't see a thing he dove in the bushes or something like that. I think Jack saw it. Locke, Ethan and Danielle also have had scratches.

There is no proof that Danielle has been on the island for 16 years. It has only been stated the the transmission is 16 years old. She could have been on the island much longer before sending that transmission. With that her child Alex would be older that 16.

Spoiler info read about producers saying "it's all RELATIVE" makes me think that Alex is definitely alive and will appear in the last epi or next season. Maybe she's the she in "She took my Baby!" The preview is leading us to believe it's Danielle which we know the produces like to lead us down the wrong path in previews.

There is survivors from the tail section??? Ana Lucia was seated in the tail. So was Rose's husband. Boone heard "we are the survivors of flight 815"

The hatch....We know about the obvious one that Locke/Boone dup up. Do you remember the scene with Hurly and the big spike ball that he dives from? Prior to him diving in the bushes it shows him standing on what appears to be another hatch. The big spiky ball being a deterant from anyone who open's the hatch or anything that comes out of the hatch???? Also, when Ethan killed Scott someone said he must have come from the water. Another hatch???

I want to know why Sayid did not say anything to Shannon about the bag/airport episode. Clearly he looked at her and would remember her. Someone else also pointed out that Sayid being military would know better than to do that so what's in the bag?

I'm rambling, I'll stop now.


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85. "RE: The Black Rock and the explosives"
Hello Lost! Welcome to the boards. Too bad you found us so late in the season!

Great catch on Kate's mother being at Jack's wedding!

I wonder if those that have been "scratched" have a special purpose or are actually infected. Or they could even have an immunity from the "sickness".

Who knows? I just can't wait...2 more days!



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86. "RE: The Black Rock and the explosives"
Lost,

Lots of stuff you bring up and I must admit some of it I haven't seen but some I have.

Please refresh my memory on the part with Hurley and the spike ball. What is this? Also...are you speculating that the hatch isn't the thing Locke and Boone dug up or are you saying there may be more than one?

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87. "RE: The Black Rock and the explosives"
I'm saying there is more than one hatch. Three. I'm looking for the Hurley hatch pic. Will be back.
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88. "RE: The Black Rock and the explosives"
Here is the pic of Hurley standing on the hatch. From the "Numbers" epi

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=305&pos=267

Here is the pic of Kate's mom at Jack's wedding (reception?) Person at the far right of pic. There's a better one but I haven't found it yet, sorry.

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=331&pos=18

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89. "RE: The Black Rock and the explosives"
I think that is the same hatch as Locke and Boone dug up. Why do you think it is different?
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90. "RE: The Black Rock and the explosives"
The color of it and when Locke and Boone stumbled on the theirs no spiky ball came flying at them.

Another thought. If the numbers appear on a hatch (Locke's) why didn't Hurley or Danielle see them?

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91. "RE: The Black Rock and the explosives"
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Maybe what you are implying is that the hatches are almost like doors to a habitrail under the island. The others use them to attack the castaways from different areas by suddenly appearing? If there is one in the sea is that what was used to drown Joanna(the scuba diver) and to attack and kill Steve?

The spiked ball appeared near Danielle's hideaway right? Wasn;t her hideaway underground?

ETA: This sounds like a video game now...is this similar to the game that was playing in Sayid's second episode?


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92. "RE: The Black Rock and the explosives"
I really like the speculation but I have a feeling we are going to see something easily explained. I think this will something similar to things we see on Survivor...you know we always go into great detail but it is something so freakin simple. I can't wait till tomorrow!
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93. "RE: The Black Rock and the explosives"
>LAST EDITED ON 05-23-05
>AT 10:54 PM (EST)

>
>Maybe what you are implying is
>that the hatches are almost
>like doors to a habitrail
>under the island. The
>others use them to attack
>the castaways from different areas
>by suddenly appearing? If
>there is one in the
>sea is that what was
>used to drown Joanna(the scuba
>diver) and to attack and
>kill Steve?

Yes, exactly.
>
>The spiked ball appeared near Danielle's
>hideaway right? Wasn;t her
>hideaway underground?

I honestly am not sure where in the jungle this occured. Could have been near Danielle's hideaway since she did appear in that epi later on with Hurly talking about the numbers.
>
>ETA: This sounds like a
>video game now...is this similar
>to the game that was
>playing in Sayid's second episode?

I wish I had recorded these. I don't remember this game you mention.
>
>
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95. "Estee's Link"
Meant to do this last night but my connection went down!

http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/cgi-bin/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=170&forum=DCForumID77&omm=47

Here is the link to the thread where Estee described the video game Half Life.

After reading it again it looks to me like there are some clues here maybe!


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96. "RE: Estee's Link"
I agree. Lot of parallels. I like this better than the comic book connection because of the aliens. I strongly believe there is no alien connection. The island is a result of scientists and their god complexes. (Jurassic Park-Ian-"no one stopped to ask should we") and of course the Government will be involved.
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94. "RE: The Black Rock and the explosives"
Welcome to the boards, Lost. If the pic of Hurley standing on the hatch was in "Numbers", then you're right, it couldn't be the same hatch as the one being dug up by Locke and Boone (since that hatch was mostly uncovered at the end of the epi). Good catch.



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