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"American Idol 5: Results Show East Coast Discussion Thread"
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"American Idol 5: Results Show East Coast Discussion Thread" |
Please keep all discussion of tonight's Results show in this thread until 12:00 am EST for those in other time zones who wish to be surprised by tonight's results.Last night's theme, meh, unspired. Some were better than others, but no one 'hit it out of the ballpark'. As always, please delete your sigpics for the benefit of our dial-up folks. See you all after TAR.
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1. "RE: American Idol 5: Results Show East Coast Discussion Thread" |
recap of last night's show.
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04-05-06, 08:54 PM (EST)
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2. "Greetings from Ryan" |
Ryan asks us to greet the contestants and the judges.Highlights (?) from last night's show. Another shot of the scary visage of too-much surgery Kenny. So apparently Keith Urban songs clicked with the judges last night. Recap of Simon/Katherine exchange that he doesn't like country music. Extended recap of Simon's negative comments. Ryan welcomesm Kenny Rogers.
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04-05-06, 08:59 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Kenny Rogers" |
Travis Tritt is in da' house. All the finalists go up on stage to praise KR.
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5. "RE: Kenny Rogers" |
We get a Shakira ad, she sang last week...will we get a Kenny Rogers ad in next weeks show 
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6. "Obligatory Commercial" |
'Just One Look'. In a car garage, making over a vehicle. Some of them actually looked a little hot.
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04-05-06, 09:08 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Obligatory Commercial" |
A little hot? rowwwwr
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7. "RE: American Idol 5: Results Show East Coast Discussion Thread" |
Ryan confirms Queen theme next week.
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04-05-06, 09:04 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: American Idol 5: Results Show East Coast Discussion Thread" |
changing it up and putting them in 3 groups of three.
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oh.my.heck. Nice snippets. Idol producers must have read my blog. Or my thoughts.
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11. "Who Is Safe This Week?" |
Ryan -- will put together three groups of three, one will be bottom three group. Taylor starts first group of three. Mandisa, starts another group. Elliott, join Mandisa. Paris, join Mandisa and Elliott. Ace, start a new group. Kellie, join Taylor. Chris, join Taylor and Kellie. Katherine and Bucky, join Ace. Ryan spending a lot of time asking who will be bottom three. Taylor, Kellie and Chris are all safe. Who is leaving? Ryan finds it necessary to repeat the contestants' names (which he did 5 seconds ago) before we go to break.
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Bucky in with Ace is not a good thing 
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26. "RE: Who Is Safe This Week?" |
awww. *smooch* I'm sorry they worried you. That's what they wanted to do.
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12. "Taylor, Chris and Kellie" |
arethe group of three that is
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14. "Three Down, Six To Go" |
Ace, split the judges. Katherine, bluesy sexy and peculiar. Bucky, in your own element. Mandisa, Paula liked you, Simon thought was horrible. Elliott, judges thought fresh but lacked confidence. Paris, judges thought had tough time.What did America decide? Bucky, Katherine, Ace, are safe. Mandisa, Elliott and Paris are bottom three this week.
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16. "RE: Three Down, Six To Go" |
I know I shouldn't be surprised. But I actually am.
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04-05-06, 09:20 PM (EST)
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15. "So who is going home?" |
Mandisak, Elliott or Paris?Paris is safe. Person leaving tonight is Mandisa. Elliott is safe. TRAVESTY! Travesty I tell you. Girl has a fabulous voice. She will go far. I would have loved to hear her next week during 'American Classics' theme.
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04-05-06, 09:23 PM (EST)
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wow!! kudos to those who called the bottom three correctly! perhaps Barry Manilow will give Mandisa a job as he said he might, and she will have a happy future.
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04-05-06, 09:25 PM (EST)
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Wow. Although she's had two rough weeks (and a very sloppy lower register), I really don't think it was her time to go. But I'm not (too) shocked. Just a tad surprised. With that bottom three, I could've sworn that it would be Elliott leaving.
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33. "RE: So who is going home?" |
What about Elliott and Bucky? They are ugly as sin but still outlasted Lisa Tucker........
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04-06-06, 08:06 AM (EST)
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34. "RE: So who is going home?" |
Well -- lets face it -- Mandisa's performances were well below par for her over the past two weeks. And whoever is her fashion stylist should be fired! My goodness, horizontal stripes on a woman her size!?!?! What were they thinking... She sounded as bad as she looked. Perception is reality for most people. If we all had radios only, I am sure she would still be there. Archon "You can get more with a 2x4 and a kind word than with just a kind word." (Marcus, B5)
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Her performances were subpar the last two weeks, but even before that I found myself forgetting what she sang - just remembering I thought she was good. She got a little screamy, too. Probably not just her looks.
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44. "RE: So who is going home?" |
Anybody that goes home, especially from this point on, wil upset some group that thinks that person is better than the rest. All of them have talent, and all are "cute" to someone.
 
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04-06-06, 10:03 AM (EST)
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53. "RE: So who is going home?" |
AWESOME siggie, Glow, a true work of art. I agree with Glow and Boner. Also, America got it 100% right this week ALL 3 deserved to be in the bottom based on this week's performances. Mandisa has been less-than-stellar since week 2, with too much screaming & I think her comments last week were the main reason she is out this week (although her days were numbered.) She started the show strong & has fallen each week. I think she's great "backup singer" material. My advice to her, go work for Barry she'll learn and grow and we may see more of her with some of Barry's tutelage. Paris is the next one who is skating on really thin ice. She has been choosing bad songs showing her vocal weaknesses each week. I partly blame the Judges, because she is not getting any constructive criticism. IMO it's between her and Ace on who should go next. Ace may do better than her with Queen, we'll see. Like Nailbone said, all the contestants are really talented in their own way and there will be outrage each week. I'm guessing the next thing will be the rehashed "yearly" rumor that AI is racist. People get ugly & don't see the big picture. They all have their foot in the music & show business door at this point & it is up to them what they do with it. All the remaining contestants will be doing something after this. 
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04-05-06, 09:46 PM (EST)
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Yes I agree it was definately the wrong song and the worst topic title (country songs). I think that genre puts a lot of people out of there comfort zone. Mendisa was one of the best... how Bucky is still in there just plain amazes me.... you just have to vote people VOTE!!!!!!
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04-05-06, 09:52 PM (EST)
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22. "Mandisa should do fine" |
Mandisa will do fine out in the real world. American Idol I feel doesn't really judge those who make it in the music industry. Its because the American public votes for who they would like to win and not whose record they would buy. Don't get me wrong, the show is great entertainment and sometimes the person we want to see win is the person whose records we want to buy, but not always. Kevin Covais was someone that we all enjoyed (well most of us at least, but in reality I don't see too many people rushing out to buy a Kevin Covais record. Thats just my opinion. I wanted to see Mandisa win and I would love to own a Mandisa album. Even if she doesnt make a big splash in the major music industry she will be very popular in the Christian music circles.
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04-05-06, 11:58 PM (EST)
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Here's my 2 cents, for what it's worth. I think Mandisa PO'ed her primary voters with the whole homophobic thing. I think she had the Barbra Streisand vote locked up and it bit her in the butt. Heck yeh, she had one of the better voices and probably the best female pipes. You have to know your audience, she lost hers with her anti-gay views.
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04-06-06, 08:28 AM (EST)
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chickgigi...Can you please explain to me why Christianity = Homophobe? I dont think her spiritual views had anything to do with her leaving. Her song and clothing choices were horrible. And with sub-par vocals those two weeks -- she was her own downfall. I just do not get all the Christian-bashing I have been reading here the past few weeks. I thought we were her to pick on Kellie's fake persona and Elliot's bad hair... Archon "You can get more with a 2x4 and a kind word than with just a kind word." (Marcus, B5)
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04-06-06, 09:00 AM (EST)
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I did not see last night's show yet but, of course, reading this thread, I know how it turned out.When did Mandisa do anything homophobic? Was it last night? And when she sang last week, the preachy tone that some have mentioned did not jump out at me. I agree with others that have said primarily song choice has done her in...and wardrobe is right behind. I would love to know how song choice is handled--how limited are they in their selections due to the show needing to obtain rights to the songs, and how much are they 'steered' in the wardrobe area? Sadly, I think many people enjoyed Mandisa but fell into the enjoy-her-but-did-not-bother-to-vote for her mode. Hey, I am one of them because no one has motivated me enough to vote for weeks now.
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04-06-06, 09:49 AM (EST)
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Mandisa has listed in her bio that her favorite writer is Beth Moore. As I understand it, she is a Chrstian author that has written about homosexuality as a problem that can be overcome through faith. That coupled with Mandisa's lifestyle comments when she sang the gospel song is what people are referring to.
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Hmmmm...I would say the average fan would not know that but I could understand it if her bio inference got onto message boards where gays discuss who is and is not supportive.
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04-06-06, 10:20 AM (EST)
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58. "RE: Shock" |
no one is saying she's homophobic because she's Christian. People are saying she's homophobic because she listed a homophobic author as her personal American Idol. on her bio page.
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30. "RE: Shock" |
Shocked? No. But a little surprised. Let's face it . . . Mandisa has spent the past two weeks wandering in the valley of the mediocre after a brilliant week two performance (American Idol really should hire Barry Manilow away from Vegas and have him work with these contestants every week - the listeners would be mighty grateful  ) She certainly wasn't the worst on Tuesday - I disliked Paris, Elliot, Bucky, Katharine, and even Taylor more - but unless you're a prohibitive frontrunner (she's not, that's reserved for Taylor and Chris) or knock it out of the park (she didn't), you're always in danger. She was definitely felled before her time, but these past two weeks gave me serious doubts that she ever would have been a serious contender for the title.
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69. "RE: Shock" |
Hi, I'm new to this board, but felt like pointing out the obvious. People go home because they get the LOWEST NUMBER OF VOTES. That isn't to say they are the least popular. There are fans who are more than happy to dial 300 times. To me, when I call if it's busy, oh well. This speaks more to the persistence of some fans than to the talent or likability of the contestant. Personally, I enjoy "never knowing" exactly what can happen, it keeps it interesting. But I will be darned if I turn into a phone dialing maniac because that is how AI has chosen to set up the system. I am entirely too busy to sit and dial the phone for two hours. (like make posts about how I won't dial a phone???) Just my two cents.
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Hi Glow...I think you might be right -- her performance last week was not good (nor were the jeans). Big drop off there. Again, she went flat this week (and again, the jeans thing). Not enough fan base to recover from it this time. Its a shame, but losing AI is not the worst thing that can happen for your career... She'll find a place in the Christian music circle -- which is fine -- it's probably where she wants to be anyway... Archon "You can get more with a 2x4 and a kind word than with just a kind word." (Marcus, B5)
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39. "RE: Very much not shocked" |
I mean because of the preaching not the jeans.
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04-06-06, 01:49 PM (EST)
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79. "RE: Very much not shocked" |
Says who?!?!? And when have I EVER argued with you?!?!?
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I haven't read any of her books, but I am sure that the "sin" of homosexuality is not the sum and total of her message.She's not Fred Phelps or anything. However her books do bear such titles as "When Godly People Do Ungodly Things: Arming yourself in the age of Seduction" and "Breaking Free" so I also feel confident in saying that overcoming whatever she considers deviant sexuality is not a minor themeMaybe that in and of itself isn't homophobic, but it's (IMO anyway) offensive. Homosexuality isn't something that needs to be treated or overcome. She seems (from what i've been able to come up with a quick internet search) to focus primarily on women and women's devotionals. Of course, you don't agree with everything your favorite author says, but if you didn't relate to them or admire them a lot - would you list them out of all the people you know and/or admire as your personal American Idol? As I said to nailbone yesterday, if I said Mein Kampf was my favortiite book and Adolph Hitler was my favorite writer, it wouldn't mean I was definitely a Nazi, but it would tell you an awful lot about who I am. I have no way of knowing, or really any interest in knowing what Mandisa's views on homosexuality are. But I'm sure she's probably aware of what Beth Moore's are. Who knows if it effected her vote totals or not. I think that two sub-par performances probably had more to do with it. But this didn't help her any.I dont know how big of a deal this is anywhere other than AI and GL interest boards. It certainly changed my feelings toward Mandisa. But I wasn't voting for her anyway,
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38. "RE: Very much not shocked" |
Although i was convinced that Paris was going home (could it be because i WANTED her to go home...??) I was not completely shocked when it was Mandisa. I knew it wasn't Elliot...I'm bummed, but not "shocked". Going into the final 12, my two favorites were Taylor and Mandisa, both because they were not 'cookie cutter' stars, but they had the pipes and they brought a little something unique to the table. Now, already one of my favorites is out, and i'm convinced it was due to shoddy song selection. I have no problem with Mandisa praising Jesus for where she is today. I have absolutely no problem with her faith and beliefs. But, at the same time there is a large chunk of the voting community that does. So last week she sang a powerful, yet some could claim preachy, song. She sang it very well, but i think that was blow #1, the song itself. Now, this week she comes in with a song that is perhaps out of her league, although i've said many times she can sing anything. I think she proved me wrong. She cannot sing Shania's "Any Man Of Mine" very well. Perhaps the key was off, but ... it was a poor choice of songs. I'll miss you Mandisa and I wish you the best, but Taylor PLEASE take note as to what poor song selection results in. Count your blessings right now because i think your song selection was worse than Mandisa's. I remember singing that song in grade school music class. Its NOT an American Idol song. geekboy
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Another thing about the song choice - Any Man of Mine. To me, it had a "rap" feel to it. And I think that made it more off track. She tried to do something with the song that just didn't work.I too have no problems with bringing religion to it. I think she is very powerful, and I have liked her in the past. Sometimes I think her power gets away from her, and she does end up screaming or shouting - unneccessarily. I'm not shocked at all. I thought she would have gone further, but based on performances from Tuesday, this was the right decision.
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64. "RE: Very much not shocked" |
I didn't so much mean her singing gospel. I don't like it but if she can sing it, I could care less.
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Really...It would truly suck to be a broadway star and have hit running show for 4-5 years... Horrors... Broadway is perfect for a woman like her. Big voice, big presense, and pleasing to the eye. Not a bad fate... Archon "You can get more with a 2x4 and a kind word than with just a kind word." (Marcus, B5)
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04-06-06, 09:34 AM (EST)
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47. "RE: American Idol 5: Results Show East Coast Discussion Thread" |
Why do I constantly hear this knock on Broadway whenever I visit AI boards? Only the most talented singers, actors and performers in the entire world wind up on Broadway. It is as stupid to say a not good enough for AI contestant should try Broadway as it is to say a poor minor league baseball player should try the NY Yankees. It takes light years more talent to be on Broadway than it takes to be on AI.
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04-06-06, 09:52 AM (EST)
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50. "RE: American Idol 5: Results Show East Coast Discussion Thread" |
I agree. I don't understand the knocks on broadway either. I really don't think having a video and appearing in Us magazine every week ought to be the only arbiter of success or talent.
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04-06-06, 01:35 PM (EST)
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75. "RE: American Idol 5: Results Show East Coast Discussion Thread" |
unfortunately, is is so for me----not talent but success
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04-06-06, 10:22 AM (EST)
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59. "RE: American Idol 5: Results Show East Coast Discussion Thread" |
I know that.
Foreign actors who made it to broadway have been received by their countrymen as heroes. Look at Filipino Lea salonga of Miss Saigon.
But Would you rather be an A star on broadway or in Holywood?
Of Course Holywood as it commands more fame, money, and what-have-you.
What i was trying to say was she is not a Holywood material.
Her great talent will best suit her as a broadway or wedding/funeral/club singer.A decent job, nothing wrong.
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if it's not holywood, it's all the same to me.
what i was trying to say was---- she's not gonna be a mainstream singer.
wherever she will be, i dont know. but it wont be holywood.
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73. "RE: American Idol 5: Results Show East Coast Discussion Thread" |
>>It is as stupid to say a not good enough for AI contestant should try Broadway as it is to say a poor minor league baseball player should try the NY Yankees<<THANK YOU!!! This is an argument I have tried to make a few times before. Failing at AI IN NO WAY indicates that you are qualified to perform on Broadway. The very idea that Broadway may be thought of as a consolation prize infuriates me. My argument: Musical theater requires ACTING and SINGING at the same time. Musical theater on BROADWAY requires the BEST acting and singing at the same time. If someone is such a poor singer that they can't handle a pop tune, they have NO CHANCE with Sondheim, or Yestin, or - well, any other musical theater composer. If a singer is such a poor actor that they can't tell a story and look sincere and real for 60 seconds of pop singing, how on earth could they act an actual ROLE in a stage show?
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I think Lisa because i like her sweet voice.
You can call it shallow or painful. The point still remains that if you are pretty, you have better chances at it.
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didnt say there was anything wrong with that.
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91. "RE: American Idol 5: Results Show East Coast Discussion Thread" |
Or more recently, Queen Latifah.
Sig by Arkie!!
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92. "RE: American Idol 5: Results Show East Coast Discussion Thread" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-09-06 AT 02:30 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 04-09-06 AT 02:26 PM (EST) aretha and patti are past medical history. if they came out today for the first time with such humungousness, i dont think anybody
would pay attention. this is showbusiness and appearance definitely counts. do you think alicia keys and beyonce and britney would be as popular if they were not pretty? this sounds very harsh,sweetie, but the truth often does.
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