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"Am I the only Guido fan?"
kiki_k 1444 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-01, 01:42 PM (EST)
 
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1. "Maybe so " |
I, too, liked Richard Hatch and thought he deserved to win Survivor (unpopular view, I know, but he was FEEDING his tribe and was a big asset in the competitions) and I liked Mike the psycho pig killer BEFORE the fire incident (remember, everyone, even his own tribe, hated him until the accident, but the man was catching fish with ROPE for crissake). On these shows, I always seem to root for the person who I thnk is playing the game the best (which often makes them unlikable to the viewing audience). In that vein, I used to like the Guidos -- they knew their objectives and knew that they would have to "double cross" people to stay ahead (plus, they were funny as hell with their matching clothes, bottomless rucksacks and moist towelettes). However, the day they tried to block the other teams from catching their plane was the day the worm turned, imho. That was not "strategy" in the name of the game, that was sour grapes because the others got a better flight. Coupled with the reports by the others that Bert actually pushed the mom makes their actions completely and totally unjustifiable. I no longer want them to win and feel that they do not deserve to win. In fact, I want them gone soon (along with Momily -- the "these people are stupid" comment in New Dehli by Emily was just too offensive for me -- they don't deserve to win either.) So, yes, you may be the only Guido fan left. 
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heymikey 238 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-01, 01:44 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
I'm also a Guido fan. It's quite weird. I always liked contestants who people hate, such as Richard Hatch from Survivor 1, Jerri from Survivor 2, Lindsey and Brandon from Survivor 3, and Will and Nicole from BB2. I guess I just like people who are very competitive.
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PagongRatEater 12996 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-01, 02:00 PM (EST)
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3. "Competitive vs. Win at Any Cost" |
The reason most of us hate the Guidos is that they will do anything to win. Most people have an internal moral compass that dictates their actions and there are lines that they will not cross. With these people, nothing is beneath them - pushing an old lady, sending people off on the wrong train, whatever it takes. Remember what your Mom said, "it's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game." Perhaps Team Guido feels fine looking in the mirror after they played the game the way they have, but that just proves that they have no compunction. The bottom line for me is - They aren't decent people and I don't like them. Wanting to win is great, I am in sales and I LOVE to win, but I won't lie to my customers or sabotage the competition to get a deal. There is no question in my mind that these guys have no integrity and I would be disgusted if my children were to grow up and act like them on television. Tell me that any of you really think that they are making their parents, their community or their God proud.
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Vicdon 14 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-01, 02:50 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
I enjoy the Guidos, too. Don't know why, but they make my husabnd and I chuckle. It is a game and I don't take them seriously, even though they take themselves too seriously. They are a hoot and a holler. I was a big fan of Richard, but Jerri and especially Lindsey, get on my very last nerve.
Go Guidos - defeat Momily!
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L82LIFE 5333 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-01, 03:43 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
I will admit that I also liked Kristen from Small Town X. She stood up for herself when challenged. The Guidos are a different story. They are rude and condescending to the other people on the show, as well as the natives of the Countries they visit. I must admit to some entertainment value with the Guidos. They do make me laugh. Not because they're funny, but because they think they are so above everyone that they make themselves look like pompous asses.
There is a big difference between being competitive and being greedy. Their complete lack of morality makes this fan want to see the back of them.
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Hananosaintjuste 16 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-01, 04:54 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
<<Remember what your Mom said, "it's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game.>>For a million dollars, I'd push some hysterical woman too. No offense to Momily fans, but they get on my nerves. Too hysterical for me. I don't think how you act when you're vying for a million dollars means you're a jerk when you're not. It's a huge circumstance. If people hate Team Guido because they would, in SOME situation with SOME circumstance, push someone (and this is not murder, mind you) and play dirty, then I think you'd be very dissapointed with a large portion of humanity. I don't think you can judge someone from how they act on a reality TV show. It's just a game. I don't think ANYBODY on the show is being perfect, moral people. I guess I just feel like everybody who act not-so-honorably in SOME situation. Personally, I didn't like the Guidos BECAUSE they played dirty or because they "pushed" Momily. It just doesn't bother me. I'd push Momily too. x.x They annoy me. And I bet you guys would push Guido, so. :B I like Guido cause.. Alright, I think gay people are undershown on reality shows, so that drew me to them, but I like the fact that they speak several languages and travel and drink wine and have a cute dog. ;) I relate with that. The fact that they're ruthless or win at all costs, doesn't irritate me, or equal the reason I like them. It just doesn't change my opinion. The bottom line is, I relate with Guido for other reasons than why people hate them. I don't relate with anybody else on the show. Guido hangs out with themselves (and don't tell me that it's cause people alienate them, THEY like being solo and never cried over people disliking them), travel, speak several languages, have lived in foreign countries, are non-heterosexual (I'd like them if they weren't, but I think it's cute), and to me, present a "cultured" image. And, yea, I like arrogance.  I make no claims to their personality being magical or wonderful, but they're not strangling kittens, so it's good enough for me. ~The Obsessively Guido Fan?
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PagongRatEater 12996 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-01, 05:20 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
>I don't think how you act
>when you're vying for a
>million dollars means you're a
>jerk when you're not. It's
>a huge circumstance. I think how you act under stress is the best display of your character. You mean to say that it's OK for them to be jerk cause there's MONEY involved, but when they have nothing to lose be being good and decent they are wonderful human beings. That is BS - these guys have no integrity at all. When I play games or sports and they are just for FUN I learned about a little something called sportsmanship and that it was better to lose with honor than to win without it. Of course, if you have no honor.... >
>I like Guido cause.. Alright, I
>think gay people are undershown
>on reality shows, so that
>drew me to them, but
>I like the fact that
>they speak several languages and
>travel and drink wine and
>have a cute dog. ;)
>I relate with that. The
>fact that they're ruthless or
>win at all costs, doesn't
>irritate me, or equal the
>reason I like them. It
>just doesn't change my opinion.
>
They are so non-cultured that it is not even funny. So what if they have traveled and know French. The are far more pretentious than they have ANY right to be. There little dog thing is possibly the most annoying things about them and they have probably done as much to damage the image of homosexual people as anybody on television.
>I make no claims to
>their personality being magical or
>wonderful, but they're not strangling
>kittens, so it's good enough
>for me.
Well, I guess as long as you have such a high standard.
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samced 72 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-01, 06:19 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
Pagon & Cole You took the words right out of my mouth
typed them and took credit for them I wonder how many people see team Guido and think
Cultured= educated informed, enlightened, polish, well bred,genteel,elegant, couteous,intellectual, sophisticated, sensitive, intelligent.......NOT
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kiki_k 1444 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-01, 06:20 PM (EST)
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17. "Just to add my two cents (again)" |
First, let me just state that I am not trying to personally attack you. But, I take issue with some of the things you have stated in this post. ><<Remember what your Mom said, "it's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game.>>
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>For a million dollars, I'd push
>some hysterical woman too.
>
>No offense to Momily fans, but
>they get on my nerves.
>Too hysterical for me.
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>I don't think how you act
>when you're vying for a
>million dollars means you're a
>jerk when you're not. It's
>a huge circumstance. If people
>hate Team Guido because they
>would, in SOME situation with
>SOME circumstance, push someone (and
>this is not murder, mind
>you) and play dirty, then
>I think you'd be very
>dissapointed with a large portion
>of humanity. Well, you know what? I don't like people who, for whatever reason and in whatever circumstance, will push another human being. The fact that this is a GAME for MONEY makes it WORSE. I could understand pushing someone in a life or death situation (although still think it rude), but for MONEY? pfft! And yes, the sad fact is that most people in this world probably would push an older woman for a million dollars -- shame on them. The fact that most of the world is composed of jerks (according to your theory) does not mean the behavior is good. >
>I don't think you can judge
>someone from how they act
>on a reality TV show.
>It's just a game. I
>don't think ANYBODY on the
>show is being perfect, moral
>people. I thought this is what this site, message board, etc. and others like it are all about. They media whored themselves out, and I can surely judge them for it. >The bottom line is, I relate
>with Guido for other reasons
>than why people hate them.
>I don't relate with anybody
>else on the show. Guido
>hangs out with themselves (and
>don't tell me that it's
>cause people alienate them, THEY
>like being solo and never
>cried over people disliking them),
>travel, speak several languages, have
>lived in foreign countries, are
>non-heterosexual (I'd like them if
>they weren't, but I think
>it's cute), and to me,
>present a "cultured" image. And,
>yea, I like arrogance. They are not "cultured" -- I speak several languages myself and have lived in several other countries -- that does not make me cultured, nor does it make them cultured. It just makes me (and them) able to speak several languages and lucky enough to have lived in other countries (and, p.s. -- their french isn't that great). They are the typical ugly Americans -- arrogant and rude -- yelling at the security guy at the airport "I was here first," causing a ruckus at the airport, trying not to pay to get into the Taj Mahal (appalling), short Guido attempting to direct traffic in the New Dehli market because he was in a hurry -- yeah, thousands of people in New Dehli all waiting for that idiot to tell them where to go. The only couple (besides the grandparents, who were just way too classy for a reality tv show) who gives off a "cultured" image is Frank and Margaretta -- they know how to interact with the local cultures, have (or at least bother to inquire) about the cultures they are interacting in, and are respectful of the people in those countries. Arrogance is not culture.
>I make no claims to
>their personality being magical or
>wonderful, but they're not strangling
>kittens, so it's good enough
>for me. Which brings me back to my first point -- I find it quite distrubing that it is ok, in the name of money, to push another human being but it is not ok to strangle a kitten. If a million dollars was involved, would it then be ok to stangle the kitten? I just don't get the logic behind that one.
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samced 72 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-01, 06:57 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Just to add my two cents (again)" |
>>p.s. -- their french isn't
>that great). >. Italian? What italian!!!! The only
>couple (besides the grandparents, who
>were just way too classy
>for a reality tv show)
>who gives off a "cultured"
>image is Frank and Margaretta
>-- they know how to
>interact with the local cultures,
>have (or at least bother
>to inquire) about the cultures
>they are interacting in, and
>are respectful of the people
>in those countries. Arrogance is
>not culture. I hear you, and I agree with absolutely everything you said!
however Team Feaster gives it the old collage try, and do a very good job at it too. IMHO
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L82LIFE 5333 desperate attention whore postings
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11-14-01, 01:16 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
>I don't think they were rude
>to other people on the
>show. Especially, I don't
>think they have been rude
>to the natives of other
>countries.No, you're absolutely correct. Pushing Nancy, deliberately sending people to the wrong train, lying to Karyn; that's not being rude to the other teams at all. And as for the natives, how about standing up in the rickshaw screaming at the natives? Or trying to get in to the Taj without paying? How about the disrespect they showed to all the non-contestants at the airport? It wasn't just the other teams they made wait, it was everybody trying to get on an airplane. I'm just curious, what exactly do you consider rude???
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AmazingFan 121 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-01, 06:05 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
If you want to support the Guidos, go ahead, good for you. But you know what they say, "The cheese stands alone".At the end of the day, I want to see the team win that has played the game the best, on their own merits. I admire the teams who find clever and innovative ways to get through the race faster, within the rules. Intentionally sabotaging other teams, and acting in an offensive and disrespectful way to the people who live in the countries they are visiting (of which Momily would also be guilty) don't impress me. I guess I'd like to believe the Amazing Race is a true test of talent, and underneath all the slick tv production is basically about the love of travel and adventure and the exploring (very quickly) of other cultures. F/M exemplify this and the Festers have really come a long way; that's why I root for them. But I'm just a lowly tv viewer, slavishly caught up in the tv media juggernaut that is Jerry Bruckheimer.
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samced 72 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-01, 06:33 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
Fantastic post!!!!!!
>At the end of the day,
>I want to see the
>team win that has played
>the game the best>
me too!!!!
>But I'm just a lowly tv
>viewer, slavishly caught up in
>the tv media juggernaut that
>is Jerry Bruckheimer.
Me too, how sad that we are not and would NOT like to be as "cultured" as team guido.
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redtabby 9 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-01, 07:06 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
AmazingFan and some others have stated my feelings very well. I was totally rooting for the Grandparents and feel so cheated that they were eliminated because of money changing issues instead of because they were phsically slower or weren't able to complete the tasks. They were able to come back after trying for the FF and failing to get it, they still finished ahead of some of the younger teams. They treated each other and the other teams with respect. They played the game in a sportsmanlike manner. I seem to recall reading somewhere that sportsmanlike behavior is one of the rules of this game. Team Guido has not behaved in that manner, and they do not deserve to win. Money is not a valid reason for bad behavior. I am not bothered by them letting the other teams go to the wrong train, after all, there is not rule that says they need to help the other teams. But I was extremely bothered by them blocking the way at the airport and then lying about it.
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Hananosaintjuste 16 desperate attention whore postings
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11-13-01, 08:07 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
Alright, alright, this didn't turn out like I had hoped.x.x I guess I was just hoping people who liked Guido would respond. I know, everyone has a right to talk. I just didn't mean to turn this into an arguement. So, I'll stop posting. Sorry for creating an argument. :B I was feeling very alone in my Guidofanaticism, and was just curious if others liked them. It turned into an argument and I'm sorry. :\ ^^ Well, one person said they liked Guido, so it was ultimately productive. Signing off, Guido Maniac
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zahadumguy 68 desperate attention whore postings
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11-14-01, 09:48 AM (EST)
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28. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
I'm a Guido fan. I think they're playing the game the best out of all of the teams.
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11-14-01, 12:29 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
The Guidos are evil. If they were just competitive I could handle it. But they are mean. They are arrogant and seem to blame others for everything. They insult the others and feel no need to be polite and nice. I think we have seen their true nature and these are not people I would like to have any contact with outside the game. This is how they live their lives, not just play a game.
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gigigeorge 8 desperate attention whore postings
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11-14-01, 10:36 PM (EST)
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37. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
I think the Guido's are the ONLY ones who are intelligent enough to figure out the game... just to recap for those who are confused it began with 11 teams of 2 - thats 2 people per team - not 1 team of 22 or someother combination... while everyone else is worried about helping each other out and being 'friends' with everyone - the Guido's have played the game. (as a team of 2)As for the pushing of momily - all I have to say is watch that episode again..... once everyone missed their plane (which I think was pure genius on the part of the Guido's) the Fat Brothers TOLD everyone that the Guido's had pushed Momily... so I ask did it really happen ? of course we can only see what they choose to show us but I have watched over and over (yes I am obsessed) and I can not see where the Guido's were even close to the Momily's... The Fat Brothers keep talking about how they are such good people but then they make threats ... breaking legs etc... hello can someone say HOMOPHOBIC ???? I have to wonder why they are a 'team' ??? hmmmmmm.... In the end 1 team of 2 gets to cross the finish line, I have confidence that it will be the Guido's ... the rest are morons imho... the biggest Guido fan of all....
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Hananosaintjuste 16 desperate attention whore postings
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11-15-01, 03:24 AM (EST)
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38. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
Right on, GigiGeorge!! I agree 100 percent. I very much dislike the Festers, personally. I was offended in how they criticized the poverty or cultural things in India and the other countries. I felt (and as did my family, who are not particularly Guido fans, by the way, they watch it for the game as a whole) it represented Americans as that kind of "mean" stereotype a lot of countries have about us.
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AresMars 283 desperate attention whore postings
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11-20-01, 02:03 PM (EST)
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73. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-20-01 AT 02:06 PM (EST)Why can't Team A$$hole be evil just becuase they haven't started a world war and commited genocide? At what point can you call some one evil? Does murder have to be involved? How about depriving someone of freedom? What is your marker for allowing someone to be called evil? If it's okay to interfere with the other teams and block them then why aren't the other teams doing it? Because they're decent and have a basic understanding of the meaning of fair play which eludes the Team A$$hole. Evil to me is those who lie, cheat, and steal? Team A$$hole fits the bill. They've lied on numerous occasions, I consider the blocking at the airport cheating although it's technically not against the rules but how about when they took the cab when they knew they were supposed to take the train in Italia , and trying to sneak into the Taj makes them theives. Evil? You bet these boys are evil and they no it which is why the huddle away from the decent folk. They are hated now by the other teams becuase of the way they behaved. They made the choice to abuse the other teams and brought the hatred upon themselves. When I was little and played baseball I didn't have to be taught not to spike the basemen when I slid in. I'll give odds if Team A$$hole played ball not only would they spike but they'd sharpen their cleats first. Hey what the heck, it's only a game. Edited to say these guys are classless and have about as much culture as spoiled milk.
God Bless America
There are two types of people, predators and prey, and the sound you hear is the sharpening of my claws.
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11-15-01, 06:09 AM (EST)
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40. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
Okay, I'm with you. Seeing how today's show went, I thought they made up for their mistakes somehow.When they got their FF after their 3rd try or something, throwing 108 coins into the pots, they gave momily a sincere hug. After that, they told momily to take a boat ride to the temple of dawn and urged them to continue with the race. At the pitstop, when the Guidos knew momily had 'saved them'from losing the chance of getting the million, they did another bear hug. Its one up to the guidos, then again, perhaps the producers wanted to show the audience the non-guidoic side of them in this episode.
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11-15-01, 09:09 AM (EST)
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42. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan? Karyn wasn't" |
Dear Guido LOVERSWell put this in your pipe and smoke it.. This was taken from an interview. It exposes the guidos as EVIL. Karyn: Thanks for the respect. However, I think Team Guido really pushed Nancy. Those two were out to win at all costs. They made it clear that they were not there to be friendly or to make friends. Nancy would not have lied to me. To be fair, I felt the need to hear their side of the story. I did not expect them to be truthful, which is why I asked a camera crew to accompany me to go talk to them. They of course proved me right. They had lied so much in the past that you could never believe anything they said. I did not realize how much they lied to me until I watched it on television. They were scandalous!! Any come backs.. Muhahah No not likley
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Hananosaintjuste 16 desperate attention whore postings
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11-15-01, 03:15 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan? RE Karyn" |
<<Karyn: Thanks for the respect. However, I think Team Guido really pushed Nancy. Those two were out to win at all costs. They made it clear that they were not there to be friendly or to make friends. Nancy would not have lied to me. To be fair, I felt the need to hear their side of the story. I did not expect them to be truthful, which is why I asked a camera crew to accompany me to go talk to them. They of course proved me right. They had lied so much in the past that you could never believe anything they said. I did not realize how much they lied to me until I watched it on television. They were scandalous!! >>Uh.. That was supposed to be some big, shutting me up thing? Riiiiight. If you'll look at my OTHER POST. You'll notice that I do NOT DENY WHAT NANCY, EMILY, ROB, BRENAN, or the FESTERS SAY. What I have a problem with is if there was ACTUAL PUSHING. They did NOT show actual pushing. They showed them all in line but if it occured, they did not show that specific part. I think it's very likely they were pushed, but who knows if it was by the Guidos? It was a crammed line, and the Guidos were moving around. I think it's entirely more possible they A) Knocked into Momily by accident, B) Were knocked into by Momily by accident, C) Didn't even touch Momily, who was pushed by someone else in the line on accident. Until I see them pushing Momily for sure, I refuse to seriously say it happened. It was a crowded line. Too many things can happen. The scenario of deliberate pushing isn't necessarily the most likely one. I have to thank Momily for cheating. It made my Guidos win.  ! Thanks Momily!! Go Guido
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Hananosaintjuste 16 desperate attention whore postings
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11-15-01, 03:45 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan? RE Karyn" |
<<I guess you were (are) the kids who takes his ball and goes home when things don't go his way. Obviously their poor sportmanship doesn't bother you simple because you are gay. That's too bad that a persons preference rather than their character is how you judge them. I think that most people would call that discrimination. >>Uh, do NOT SAY GAY PEOPLE ARE POOR SPORTSMAN. That is SICKENING. And for the DAMN RECORD, I am NOT like that. Do NOT STEREOTYPE ME. You know NOTHING ABOUT ME. So cut it out. I don't cheat, lie, or steal. Just because I like someone on a TV show doesn't mean I'm a bad person. You're not a nice person because you like the other teams. You have no right to judge me AT ALL, unless you KNOW ME. And guess what? YOU DON'T. So don't even go there if you have no idea who you're talking about. I like a conniving, self-centered, ruthless team on a reality TV game show. You're an idiot if you think you can judge my PERSONALITY and my MORAL VALUES ON THAT.
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11-15-01, 03:48 PM (EST)
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49. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan? RE Karyn" |
>> Obviously their poor sportmanship doesn't bother you simple >> because you are gay. That's too bad that a persons preference >> rather than their character is how you judge them. I think >> that most people would call that discrimination.
I'm glad someone found the gentle way to point this out. I can't stomach those who bash Team Guido because they are gay, and I can't abide those who defend them because they identify with their homosexuality.
It's unfortunate that this is how we identify both the contestants and ourselves. I never once saw a post about Frank and Margarita, or Lenny and Karyn, being black and therefore too stupid to win, or being homies who can't lose in urban settings.
No one cared that they are black. As for Joe and Bill, I don't care if they are gay. I care if they deliberately sabotage the other teams. We are not here judging their sexuality, just their character. I couldn't root for my brother if he displayed the lack of character we've seen from Guido. Team Guido is arrogant and disrespectful of the other teams, which is irritating and misguided.
Their hubris should have, and may yet be, their downfall. And that will get a lot of people here cheering.
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Ruthless 281 desperate attention whore postings
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11-15-01, 09:47 PM (EST)
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58. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan? RE Karyn" |
I have seen every episode up to No. 8 - some of them twice, because it is on late at night and I tape it for my son and watch it again when he watches it.Remember the second Paris episode? The Guidos were nearly the last team to arrive at the road block where one member had to go through the sewers. And they weren't the first team to the pendulum either. Overconfidence about their knowledge of the city allowed them to become complacent.
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ozlifter 5 desperate attention whore postings
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11-17-01, 05:19 AM (EST)
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66. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan? RE Karyn" |
I also found your postings to be offensive.
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NightScribe 761 desperate attention whore postings
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11-15-01, 06:55 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
I don't know why I'm responding necessarily except to clarify a few things.
First, I have no problem saying this, I AM gay, and I can't stand team Guido. For my explanation why, check the archives under the heading "official team guido basher thread". In it, myself and others dicussed their despicable behavior and avoided any discussion of homosexuality because, quite frankly, it matters not. They do not act the way they do because they are gay, but rather because they are arrogant, pompous, people that think far more of themselves than anyone else does.I'd also like to point out that in addition to lying about the Tunisia Airport incident, they also compared themselves to battered women and the "cycle of violence". This is not only bullsh!t, but an insult to women who have actually suffered from abuse. Vicitimizing themselves in that manner was just a passive-aggressive attempt to throw the heat off of themselves and onto another team. It's disgusting. They are truly horrible representations of tens of thousands of decent, morally upstanding gay people in this country. Finally, this board does not tolerate gay bashing or any other kind of bashing that singles out groups of people for hate speech, and this includes overweight people. The people who stay around this place are those who avoid this mistake. I welcome all new posters to the board and hope you enjoy yourselves here, but never forget that there are real people out there reading this and some are gay and some are overweight. Offending other posters is a bad idea, so I suggest you calm down the tone of your posts in the future. 
Psssst... I was never here
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katem 3315 desperate attention whore postings
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11-15-01, 07:29 PM (EST)
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55. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
It's funny you even remember Kristen, from Murder in Small Town X. I do not think she was nasty at all, she seemed very nice, just loud and opinionated. I was rooting for her.The problem with the Guidos (of which I was a huuuuggee fan of in the beginning) has been outlined by many in this thread already, I can easily say that I agree with most of them. They have not been good sports at all and they have crossed all the lines that they should not have even looked at. But, lets all remember that most of these contestants have come out and said that they like the Guidos, now that the game is over. Even Nancy said she stayed with them for a month at their home (she said so in the Early Show), so lets not just judge a book by its television cover. By the way, I was just shocked to hear that Angel, the guy that actually WON Murder in Small Town X, was one of the firefighters that passed away 09/11. How is that for reality television. How sad.
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11-15-01, 09:23 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
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By the way, I was just shocked to hear that Angel, the guy that actually WON Murder in Small Town X, was one of the firefighters that passed away 09/11. How is that for reality television. How sad. >>That WAS sad. How sadly ironic. :\ For the record, to the entire board, I don't mind disagreeing about the Guidos. But I'm making a pleasant request to NOT make judging statements about me as a person without knowing me. It's really upsetting, because I don't think any person can be judged on what TV shows they watch and what characters on them they like. I know several caring people who work at rape crisis centers, who love villains on TV just because they make things interesting. I don't mind arguing about the Guidos or other people hating them.. But please don't judge someone you don't know, because they like some people you don't like.
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nyjames 3 desperate attention whore postings
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11-16-01, 12:08 PM (EST)
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59. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
I don't know why so many people hate Team Guido.Theam Guido is my favorite team so far and they play the game pretty well. They are calm, they don't scream, they don't yell
and I barely see them showing frustration. They try their best to win and they are smart. They know what they are doing in the race. Hello, none of them are coming to make friends in the race. You have to try your best to win. I see some teams helping each other or playing as a group or even sharing information, well, it is not right, it is cheating. It is totally unfair to the teams behind. Think about that, if the lawyers and fat boys are not in the lead, do you think they are still nice and generous ?
GO Team Guido!
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Cole 409 desperate attention whore postings
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11-16-01, 12:33 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
"They are calm, they don't scream, they don't yell
and I barely see them showing frustration."LOL, James, are you watching the same show everyone else is? Team Guido has been anything but calm and they scream and yell just as much if not more than everyone else. Does anyone else remember: 1) Blonde Guido screaming at the camel guy to hurry up and get him off the camel
2) Blonde Guido in the rickshaw screaming at the Indian locals and waving his hands to get them to move out of his way
3) Blonde Guido in the Tunisian market screaming at his driver to just go and run over Momily, who was standing in the square and thanking the young boys for being so nice.
4) The infamous Tunisian airport scene I am sure there are more incidents others remember. Yes, other teams have screamed and yelled, notably Karyn and Emily, but you seem to be putting the Guidos up for sainthood. They most definitely do not deserve it.
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Denyse 24 desperate attention whore postings
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11-17-01, 01:06 PM (EST)
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67. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
oh c'mon...
Guido is the most respectful team in the race...which other team knelt down when they received the clues from the wise man in india? not the fatties...they even made fun of him being old... not the other teams either..
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings
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11-17-01, 06:16 PM (EST)
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69. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
Yes the Guidos acted wonderful in India. Trying to sneak into the Taj Mahal without paying is really showing your class and dignity. LOL!
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Cole 409 desperate attention whore postings
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11-19-01, 01:31 PM (EST)
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72. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
Zahadum, I did not say that the Guidos were the only ones doing things like this in India. I was responding to the poster who said that the Guidos do not scream or yell. I was trying to point out that they're just as bad as everyone else.While the Guidos do not yell much at each other, they have certainly yelled at locals, blonde Guido in particular. There is no reason why he had to yell at the camel guy. I pay waitresses to bring me my food, just because I am paying for my food does not give me the right to scream and yell and treat her with disrespect. As far as the taxi in Tunisia, I clearly saw Momily standing in front of their cab, and blonde Guido repeatedly yelled, just go just go just go. It was obvious there was nowhere to go until the people in front moved out of the way, and I think his urging "just go" was intended to convince them to move out of the way. Of course my TV does not have better sound, there's no reason for you to be so snippy. Regarding the airport, I was talking about their behavior towards not only the locals but the other teams. To make such a scene in an international airport is not bright, particularly since it was done with such malicious intent. I read somewhere that armed guards had to come on the scene and straighten things out. I am surprised that the Guidos were not taken away and interrogated, surely that would be in the case if they were to do that now. In sum, let's all try to get along here. This thread is becoming quite caustic. We all have our favorite teams, we can agree to disagree.
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TeamJoisey 3558 desperate attention whore postings
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11-18-01, 02:22 AM (EST)
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70. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
Can we clarify the language a little then?
You don't "like" Joe and Bill. You yourself have pointed out that we don't know them. We can't like them, or hate them.
You enjoy watching the Guidos because their behavior is entertaining. And I agree with you there. They bring huge entertainment value to the show.
Many others feel their actions have been immoral and despicable.
And I agree with them as well. Can we agree on this: Immoral despicable behavior makes great television, but I wouldn't invite them home for dinner. TJ
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11-18-01, 07:31 PM (EST)
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71. "RE: Am I the only Guido fan?" |
I can't believe some of the post I have read in this thread.I must say this... Those who Judge others condem themselves. I'm sure if we placed a television camera crew that the crew would capture all your dishonest dealings. Who amoungst us hasn't cheated lied. The Guidos are no different to anyone in this world.. It just goes to show what kind of world we live in today.
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