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"American Idol - The First Eight"
Wow......I certainly thought that none of the Idols were at their best tonight. The show was horrible for all of the contestants except maybe one or two....and the judging really wasn't as on key as it had been. The family member bit wasn't great, the song selections by the contestants was (to steal a line from Simon) absolutely dreadful....maybe the only good thing from tonight was the piano player, he was pretty good...and the stage looked nice. But overall, a horrible show....who does everyone think will make it to the final 10? Here's my opinion...

Kimberly C. - Definately through to the next round...if the fans don't like her, the judges like her enough to keep her in.

Patrick F. - Things are looking dismal for him. Without a lot of Simon suppourt, he probably won't get a judge vote. His only hope is if the fans really hate Kimberly and vote him in....he probably won't make it, though.

JD Adams - He's probably out....he blew it with the song choice, and won't get the judge's pick...and his chances with America are slim since he had some better performances around him.

Treynce - She did really well, but due to limited exposure so far, she won't have as much support.....she probably could hold her own in the finals, but I'm saying she won't be in them.

Meosha - Blew it...she's out, no question.

Bettis - Blew it as well...he's out, unless America is feeling reeeeaally sorry for him.

Charles - I really liked him...again, limited exposure probably will be tough luck for him...but he has a better chance than most...

Julia - I'm pretty sure she's through, she'll probably get a fan vote in due to all of the exposure we've had, they really have edited her in a good light. The judges will save her if need be.

And based on tonight's performances, I was surprised that JD blew it...I picked him to do well, but he's probably gone...I think my picks before the episode, Kim and Julia, will get the fan votes tonight.


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 RE: American Idol - The First Eight Femme 02-04-03 1
 RE: American Idol - The First Eight Spidey 02-04-03 2
 RE: American Idol - The First Eight katem 02-05-03 3
 RE: American Idol - The First Eight johnthemod 02-05-03 4
 VOTE KIM AND JD!! BaquaR13 02-05-03 5
 American I-Dull... Draco Malfoy 02-05-03 6
   RE: American I-Dull... katem 02-05-03 8
 RE: American Idol - The First Eight Ahtumbreez 02-05-03 7
   RE: American Idol - The First Eight SurvivorOverlord 02-05-03 9
 RE: American Idol - The First Eight Bebo 02-05-03 10
 RE: American Idol - The First Eight munson 02-05-03 11
   RE: American Idol - The First Eight weltek 02-05-03 12
       RE: American Idol - The First Eight jase 02-05-03 13
 RE: American Idol - The First Eight ejm92 02-05-03 14
   RE: American Idol - The First Eight PagongRatEater 02-05-03 15
       RE: American Idol - The First Eight Draco Malfoy 02-05-03 17
       observations MollyTV 02-06-03 28
   RE: American Idol - The First Eight Draco Malfoy 02-05-03 16
       RE: American Idol - The First Eight katem 02-06-03 18
   RE: American Idol - The First Eight Bebo 02-06-03 19
       RE: American Idol - The First Eight SurvivorOverlord 02-06-03 20
           RE: American Idol - The First Eight Bebo 02-06-03 21
               RE: American Idol - The First Eight SurvivorOverlord 02-06-03 22
 RE: American Idol - The First Eight munson 02-06-03 23
   RE: American Idol - The First Eight trshtvjnky 02-06-03 24
   RE: American Idol - The First Eight Bebo 02-06-03 25
       RE: American Idol - The First Eight managerr 02-06-03 26
           RE: American Idol - The First Eight ejm92 02-06-03 27
               RE: American Idol - The First Eight SurvivorOverlord 02-06-03 29
           RE: American Idol - The First Eight katem 02-06-03 30
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1. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
Those that I liked:

Kim - though I hate to admit it. I was prepared to hate her for being so juvenile, but she can sing. She looks like Brittney/Christina/Jessica/Mandy to me though. Boring.

Julia - I liked her. Sympathy for her character aside, i think she has a delightful voice and a very nice style. She's hip without being over the top. Pretty pissed at the judges, though, for wasting her time with catfight business instead of offering her good solid constuctive criticism.

Charles - I really liked him a ton, and he's a Cleveland boy. I think he was a little weak on the Stevie song, adn like Paula said, should have projected more, but I really really like his voice.

Trenyce - I liked her voice a lot, but she seems like a carbon copy. I won't be devastated if she doesn't go on, but I still liked her. She has me wondering what else she's got going on. Can she handle other types of songs? Can she sing slower and more controlled?

Those I didn't like so much:

Meosha - she had such a pretty voice, but really not a very good singer. I liked her song choice, but she was too halting and rigid. Not into it at all.

JD - I didn't like him from the start. I didn't think he sang well enough to make it into the competition to being with, but with others supporting him so much, I think I had my expectations way up on him. i was very disappointed.

Patrick - I don't think his outfit was so bad, though it certainly wasn't great. His voice was okay, but not very confident and strong. He was lukewarm and a little high.

Bettis - I really liked this kid from the auditions and was pulling for him to do well. I'm bummed that he didn't, but not surprised. he has a good talent. My friend says he's the one most likely to make it, but probably as a backup singer in a boy band or a choreographer for other singers.


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2. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
Actually, the piano player was my least favorite part. But I guess maybe it is because all of the contestants were singing ahead of him, or behind him. What do I know? I couldn't carry a tune in a backpack. If I had only been in NYC when that guy was looking for someone worse than him ... I coulda had my 15 minutes.

I can't pick a top two, but if I could pick 4 to go on, it would be Kimberly, Julia, Trenyce and Charles. In my humble, tone-deaf opinion, any of them deserve it. The rest - eh, so-so and not so good. The judges might save Bettis with their selections only because they obviously think he is great, but probably not. JD might get a wildcard, just so Simon can have the pleasure of berating presidential blood when the world realizes that his "total package" is missing one thing - great voice. He's ok, but no better than RJ and look what Simon put that poor kid through!

Memo to Trenyce:

Girlfriend, what's with the name change? I like it, but too good for Leshondra now? And even if you are, didn't you have enough confidence in yourself to change it BEFORE the auditions, so people don't think you are too big a DAW for your britches and vote your heiny home? Well, hopefully it won't hurt you. It didn't hurt Tiffany Montgomery - Ryan Starr, and her new name is way worse. I mean, come on, Starr? I think you sang great.



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3. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"

Here's my opinion...

Kimberly Caldwell. She was the best one tonight. I think the public will do the right thing and vote her in. If not the judges will be invite her back for the wildcards.

Patrick F. - His outfit was horrible and he sounded almost as bad. He's out of here. His father going out to squable with the judges was sooooo Mama Rose. Dreadful.

JD Adams. Shocker of the night. He was not bad, but he was not good either. He didn't even look cute. He's not going to make it. He might get a repreive from the judges and get invited to the wildcards, but I doubt it.

Treynce. Loved her. I think she will take the second spot from the public. If not, she FOR SURE, will be invited to the wildcards by the judges. She's alive.

Meosha. She was mediocre. She's out of it.

Bettis. Ditto, see Meosha.

Charles. He was good, not great. He will most definitely will get an invite to the wildcards. The only way he gets the public vote is that they hate Trenyce or Kimberly or Julia.

>Julia. I liked her. She has sounded better in other episodes, but she was good. The public vote is between Kimberly, Trenyce and her. She would get a wildcard invite.

My vote for tonight: Kimberly (first) and Trenyce (second). Julia or Charles could steal one of these places, but definitely the two that don't make it, will be in the wildcard show.


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4. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
My rankings:

1. Julia - she just was sooo much more of an American Idol than any of the rest of them. You NEED a personality to be a pop star. A dynamic personality. This was lacking in all the other performances tonight. DEFINITELY in.

2. JD Adams - I hate to say it, but I'm basing this on the fact that I want the only two hot guys in the final 32 to go to the finals (though singing wise...hmm....at least the other one has that to back him up more (CLAY))

3. Charles - the second best performance...HOWEVER, he looked like a twelve year old wearing his brother's clothes...granted the mix and match jeans thing was kinda cool...all in all, MUCH better than I thought he'd be

4. Kimberly C - she was decent, and she's got that pop star look, but I don't think she's enough of a ##### to make an interesting villain, and I think she's too bland to be the next blonde superstar

5. Trenyce - not bad overall...good energy, decent voice...but I just don't think she has enough personality to pull this through...and her mouth was really bothering me...and she was a little throaty

6. Meosha - now starts the march of the losers...no WAY these final three are going to make it...now to give her credit, the pianist was a little off on her song...but she was just so damn boring and forgettable..no way

7. Bettis - bad hair, BAD shirt, bad song, mediocre voice. Nice dancing though...maybe he should go for backup somewhere.

8. Patrick F - oh dear god. He looked like he was constipated or in some kind of intense pain the entire time he was singing, the outfit was not pop star material, he's not attractive (in any sense of the word) and didn't seem to have a remotely dynamic personality....his dad coming onstage was just the icing on the cake, how did this guy make the final 32??? ALTHOUGH, if I had closed my eyes and just listened, I might have enjoyed it...might.

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5. "VOTE KIM AND JD!!"
Too busy voting to give input, but for all you out there vote 1 and 3, kim and jd!!

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6. "American I-Dull..."
LAST EDITED ON 02-05-03 AT 07:22 AM (EST)

Inexcusable. I can understand the kids having no energy after doing this for several week. But there is NO reason for the first competitive week to be this bleh.

General notes before I rip into the contestants: Ryan does SO much better solo. The-Ex-Host-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named really brought the show down... At first, I thought having the parents there was a really cool idea, but as soon as I saw Patrick's father stand up, I did a complete 180. It ended up hurting Patrick, as now he looks like a big wuss who needs his daddy to stand up for him... Coca-Cola needs to get "real" and stop showing us these obviously forced moments like the kids sitting around singing badly... It is WAAAAAAY too early for these kids to be trying to pull off the "one-name" bit. All it does is make the kids come off as cocky and IMO, makes me think they better pull it off or look worse... The show runs a lot smoother with only 8 singers, I think. Trying to fit 10 singers in just seemed too cramped... WHY WAS EVAN ON THE SHOW? Is he trolling for new blood already?

Now the individual ripping.

Kimberly- I would have expected someone who is such a veteran of this type of show to do better. But she was one of the top of tonight's show, and she will probably make it through, either through fan voting or wildcard.

Patrick- And I so wanted him to do well. I was really pulling for all the "plus-size" Idols to go on to the final 10. He wasn't bad, but his dad killed any chance he had, IMO. I really wish the judges had said a little more about his singing than his wardrobe. Hell, I liked it.

Shrub Adams- Ah yes, another Presidential progeny blowing it under a national spotlight. It wasn't really bad or really good, it was worse. It was completely forgettable. By the time the show ended, I'd completely forgotten about him.

The Artist Formerly Known As LaShondra Cobbins- Did she make up her new name out of the blue? Anyways, she's not my cup of tea really, she growled a little much, but she was definitely one of the best of a bad bunch. If she doesn't make the audience vote, she's got a very good shot at the wild card.

Moesha... er, Meosha- Bleh. Suck suck suck. Go back home, kiddo.

Bettis- The last of the no-last-name brigade for tonight, hopefully for the entire competition. Another guy who just didn't have it, and a HORRIBLE song choice didn't help him any. Whose idea was it to take a song with very tight 4-part harmony and make it a solo? Without the other parts, it just sounded boring. He's got good energy, but song choice really killed his chances.

Charles- Had an odd look for someone singing a Stevie Wonder song, but he wasn't horrible, I guess. If a guy is going to make it from tonight's show, it will be him.

Julia- Wasn't bad, but don't know if she really should make it or not. But she will because she's a VERY well known face by now. This is one case where the editing has given an edge to a talent who might not have gotten in otherwise.

My picks for tonight's vote: Julia and Trenyce, with Kimberly getting a wildcard slot.

Here's hoping it goes up from here.


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8. "RE: American I-Dull..."

>General notes before I rip into
>the contestants: Ryan does
>SO much better solo.
>The-Ex-Host-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named really brought the show
>down...

I was going to comment on this in the other thread. You are soooooo right Draco, Ryan has become fun and keeps things running smoothly.

>At first, I thought
>having the parents there was
>a really cool idea, but
>as soon as I saw
>Patrick's father stand up, I
>did a complete 180.

As soon as I saw this, I said "Oh no, they will try to manipulate the audience again", anyone remember dear 'ol Jimmy and his hearing impaired parents? Or the Nikki's son gives her a flower after a horrible performance?

This sucks, the show does not need this kind of crap. When Bettis's sister was going ballistic saying to the judges, that THEY (the judges) were the ones that had picked the 32 and were now ripping them, I just thought to myself, if Bettis gets in because of his idiot sister, I'm not watching again.

Then Simon, of course the voice of reason, said that they had believed in all of these kids, but that most had disappointed and let them down, I just went THANK GOD FOR SIMON !!!!! He was right, of course.

In some ways the producers learned their lesson (no more Dunk.... um sorry Draco, The ex-co-host who shall NOT be named, the improved sets) and in others they did not (the families, all those silly Coke moments).

BTW, what happened to Kristin Holt?

> WHY WAS EVAN
>ON THE SHOW? Is
>he trolling for new blood
>already?

Cause his show is almost over and he is a DAW and is trying to milk all the free publicity he can, before vanishing (thank goodness) from all of our lives.


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7. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
First of all I think Draco is right and Ryan is so much better solo. Simon was too nice last night, come on Simon even I would have ripped more.

My take on the singers:

Kimberly: The best of the night, but she hits me as too plastic. Barbie meets Barbarella. But I think she will make it through.

JD: I think he will make it though, just because of all the tweenage girls that burnt up the phonelines last night. I think he was weak, and I was really disappointed. Pick a better song boy.

Patrick: Such a nice kid, okay singer, but no idol. Daddy let the kid grow up.

Trenyce: Not bad, depending on the next 16 I think she may get a judges pick.

Meosha: Umm, don't remember her, have slept since then.

Bettis: He'll do something in the industry but it won't be singing single.

Charles: Sounded good, looked good, but the sound and the look did not go together. Just didn't click with me.

Julia: First definite wildcard pick I think. She looked better before, sounded fine not great but better than most of the rest.

I was waiting for Evan to go out and belt one out for Simon. Go home Evan, you big gorilla man.


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9. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
I also like Ryan solo....things just flowed much better. Okay...we understand already that Coca~Cola is a major sponsor...but geez did they have to try and get the name in every damn shot that didn't involve singing????? And even one that did...come on these kids need to be working on thier own stuff not singing badly as a group into coke bottle microphones!! And one last rant before I rate the performers(if you want to call some of them that) WTF is up with all the damn name changes and dropping last names....so you made it to the final 32....big friggin whoop....the last minute name change just means that the audience can more readily forget who you are when you get your ass booted after last night because not only did you forget your damn names....you forgot how to sing!!!! Now on to the performances

Kimberly C - IMHO she was far and away the best of the night, really the only one that the judges didn't have something bad to say about. She looked and sounded the most confident and proffesional...She's a shoe-in to the next round.

Patrick - Didn't think the outfit was that bad, but the choice of song was...come on a big guy doing Toni Braxton! And daddy coming to the rescue put the final nail in your coffin...I just figured out what the parents are there for..........to give the losers a ride home!!!

JD - I don't think he looked that great and he damn sure didn't sing that great...once again I hated the choice of song...the only way he is in is if all the little teenage girls drolled on the phone all night to vote him there (which could happen unfortunately)

Trenyce - Not bad..I think the name change hurts her in the public eye....just makes her look cocky already...plus it makes it easy to forget what we've seen of her in the past. Might get a wildcard

Meosha - SUCKED....ruined a really great song....Bah BYE

Bettis - stick to Choreography...you seem to have some talent there, but you can't sing.

Charles - Also not bad, but not great either and no real stage presence at all...just keep moving his left arm and staring into space....outfit and song didn't match...and not having alot of focus on him in previous episodes hurts him in a public vote.....could also get a wild card

Julia - the second best performance of the night...she lost it a little bit, but it is obvious that her and Kimberly are the most comfortable being on stage in this situation...Plus all the previous focus on her about how she was almost left out of the group audition gives her some sympathy votes from the publice....She's through to the next round

And was it just me or did Evan look worse than normal.....go back to the bulldozer already!


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10. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
Kimberly - Did a nice job, has a good look - should go on.

Patrick - Mr. Bebo and I were wishing he had picked a different song. He didn't do well with the one he had.

JD - Whoa, what a disappointment! I will be so bummed if he gets one of the spots just because he's cute. Picked the wrong song and didn't do anything with it.

Trenyce - Loved her energy, and she saved me from falling asleep before 24 (which would have been a crime to miss). She was one of the 4 performances I liked. The one name thing seemed ridiculous when three of them in a row did it.

Meosha - Picked the wrong song and sang it poorly. Sorry, bye.

Bettis - Liked his sister's support, but that will not change my opinion that it was a substandard performance. And I had been cheering for him, since he had been stuck with the party boys in an earlier round and I didn't want them bringing him down. This time, he did that.

Charles - One of the better performances. Image is an issue, and since his song was mellow, he may have underwhelmed the audience.

Julia - Bummer, she didn't do as well as in prior rounds, but still better than most of the folks. Hopefully, folks will remember her past ones and keep her. Or the judges may give her a wildcard.

I quickly narrowed my choices down to Kimberly, Trenyce, Charles, and Julia. If I were voting for two? Kimberly and Julia.


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11. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
Kimberly - OK. I've seen Melissa. I love Melissa. Kimberly is NO Melissa. "Come to My Window" will not work with a piano. Bad song choice and she didn't sing it all that well. HUGE disappointment for me. Simon and the cats dig the look so she's all good for now.

Patrick - Didn't notice the clothes until they pointed it out but tend to agree with Randy and Simon. Something about the pitch of his voice and lack of breath control (audible gulping!) left me unimpressed.

JD - Not even up to EJ, RJ or AJ's level. Simon's great white hope didn't bring his A game. Get thyself to a boy band!

Treynce - Growled her way through. Me thinks the affectations cover some flaws in the voice. OK.

Meosha - Guess I'm the only one that liked her performance. Of course, once she started in on the country Diva standard, I closed my eyes to see if it could approach the Faith Hill/LeAnn Rimes takes and she did it pretty well. No stage presence, that's for sure, but good pitch, one kinda major misstep on the high note but, all in all, pretty good job.

Bettis - My pick for worst performance of the evening and that's something considering JD was in the field! He was just annoying. A bad song choice performed poorly - a deadly combination.

Charles - A surprise and even more impressive because I don't remember seeing him at all prior to last night. Not wowwed. Closest to the "Aw, shucks," Kelly Clarkson reaction...and that's a good thing.

Julia - Very good song choice and very good performance but something is off here. Not sure what it is - she seems too old to be in the competition altho she's only 23. Diva attitude, look, aura but not the Diva voice.

If, for some reason either Kimberly or Julia don't make it through to the next round by vote, both are good choices for judge's picks. If Kimberly gets through, I look for MUCH better performances in the future.

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12. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
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Wow, ditto munson. I completely agree with everything you said.

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13. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
I think Kim and Charles will move on. They gave the best performances out of the group and everyone else was either okay or very bad. I'm hoping the next group picks a song that they can sing well and matches up with their voice when it's performed on the piano. The pianist was almost as bad as Bettis last night.

As far as stuff like the "Coca-Cola Red Room" and other product placements go, I could care less. They underwrite the show (along with Ford and AT&T) and they have a right to make some money just like eveyone else involved. It's not that big of a deal to me what they do or how they do it. Plus, the new set is awesome.

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14. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
Whoa!!! I was pleasently shocked with America tonight.....go USA!!!! To quote a line from Scream, "BAM!, B*tch went down!"....but then again, she's probably still going to get love from the judges, because she does deserve to be in the final ten. I really liked Charlie last night, but I didn't think he had the exposure...but last night's show did it...I guess I'll do a thread for the second eight later tonight, so we can kinda judge on them. Even though I didn't like Kimberly's "catty" personality, I wish she would have made it and not Charles, because Kimberly is almost a lock for the wildcard...and next week's show is going to be upsetting for me, because Ruben, Clay, Jacob John and Kimberley Locke are all on the same show!

But come on...I just have to watch that tape over and over...Kimberly was so cocky and so positive that she was in...and then BOOM!


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15. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
I was very pleasantly surprised myself. Along with kicking Kimberly's and her fake smile to the curb, they also went with substance over image in leaving JD and sending Charles on.

This is my first season of this show and was wondering if they actually reveal the vote count. Anybody know?

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17. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
Nope. Allows for "creative license" if necessary. There's something in the contract that says that the producers have the ultimate call. And I was so afraid they would use it to have Justin win last year.


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28. "observations"
i was totally thrilled that kimberly was EXECUTED! she was making me sick the WHOLE time....running up to congratulate all the singers after she was given a judges "thumbs up" and they weren't. playing cheerleader...then the LIVE night she was SOOOO sure of herself...i kept saying...she is so expecting it...but i was glad to see i wan't the only one who didn't want her in.

why does julia look like she is in so much PAIN? someone is going to have to tell her to smile!

why was PAUL BUNYAN aka....evan marriott around? can he sing? hm

oh one last thing...as for allowing kimberly to have the mic and the LAST song and to be acting like she was the STAR??! ...did julia and charles look intimidated or what...it was like the "gang of losers" from FAME were taking over....wow....

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16. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
A pleasant surprise, IMO, that Kimberly didn't get the fan vote. Shows me that America, at least, isn't buying it totally. Charles didn't totally surprise me, as I figured if any guy made it, he would be the one.

"BAM! Superb!tch!"

Next week should be interesting... I'll be pulling for Clay, even if he does look like one of those blasted Weasleys, and Kimberly.


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18. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
>A pleasant surprise, IMO, that Kimberly
>didn't get the fan vote.
> Shows me that America,
>at least, isn't buying it
>totally. Charles didn't totally
>surprise me, as I figured
>if any guy made it,
>he would be the one.

I did not doubt that the audience felt she was evil, cause frankly she is. She is totally fake.

That said, she WAS the best singer last night and she earned her place in the finals. The judges will put her there.

Of the others, I think only Trenyce has a chance to make the wildcard show along with Kimberly.

Charles will not last long in the finals, his voice is nice but NOT very strong and I hate his look. Julia will go far.

>Next week should be interesting... I'll
>be pulling for Clay, even
>if he does look like
>one of those blasted Weasleys,
>and Kimberly.

I think right now, we can expect a showdown between Ruben, Clay and Kimberley, the others are more likely filler. It should be good.


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19. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
Mr. Bebo and I were tickled. I got nervous when it went down between Charles and JD for the last spot...would the public vote for eye candy or talent? I was pleased when it was Charles.

I thought the denim outfit might turn people off, but I'm glad to see him in the next round. And what a pleasant surprise to see Kimberly not get it.

Bummed to see Kimberly, Ruben, and Clay in the same mix, but after the judges' comments last night, it sounds like there's only one spot taken in the wildcard show (Kimberly C.), so there's room for all three. But I'll be cheering for those three! Especially Clay, since he's the local guy.


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20. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
I was amazed at the results from last night....it went down to the three that I figured it would.....but was shocked that Kimberly didn't make it.

I know she is a "Superbitch" and all that, but I don't think too many people can honstely say that she didn't have the best performance out of the eight that she was up against....even the Judges had nothing but praise for her performance.

One thing is for sure......One of the wildcards spots already has her name written on it....so that means there is only one left between the remaining 24 hopefulls......it's gonna get ugly!


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21. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
One thing is for sure......One of the wildcards spots already has her name written on it....

I'm not so sure about that. Yeah, she was excellent compared to the others that night, but the judges made it clear that they thought the group as a whole was weak. Before the results were even announced, Simon was on them about how none of them had given their best performance and whichever two moved forward would have to work much, much harder.

I think she might be penciled in at this point, but I don't see her as a rock-solid wildcard.


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22. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
But remember....all 3 judges thought that Kimberly was a "lock" for the Top Ten....if you go back and look at last night show, when Kimberly started to sing her song you could see the 3 judges huddled up in the background shaking thier heads in agreement.

And speaking of judges....WTF was up with Paula?????? Did she have a collagen treatment done to her lips yesterday or what...she looked like #####!

And if you listen close when Ryan introduced her you can here Simon saying "your smile looks different tonight" and then laughing......He doesn't cut anybody any slack...not even the other judges!


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23. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
Must be something wrong with the sound on my TV because looks like I'm the only one who thought Kimberly sounded only marginally OK on Tuesday and was dreadful last night. I was cringing as she sang her song trying to find one right note throughout. Why does she speak, instead of sing, the first verse? Arrrgh. Why she gotta ruin Melissa? I was convinced that her freestylin at the end was so bad that she was endangering her wildcard spot.

I really do like her voice. She rocked "Superstition." Bad, bad, song choice.

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24. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
I totally agree with you munson -- my friend and I were talking last night how she ruined that song (which is one of my top ten of all times). She was way ahead of the piano and sounded like she couldn't hit a few notes.

And btw I also agree with you on your other post that the song should not be accompanied by a piano!!

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25. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
I agree that she was much worse last night. On the long notes (on "anyway") she was so flat that Mr. Bebo and I were cringing.


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26. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
Remember that the judges are not picking both wildcards. Like last year, the judges are only picking one wildcard. The fans are picking the other. So if there is enough of an anti-Kimberly Caldwell contingent out there, she will have to rely on the judges wildcard.
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27. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
That is sick...they pump up the judges for being such a big part of the show, and then give them almost no control. I think the judges should have at least 25%, if not 50% of the power when it comes to eliminations....Nikki would've been out much sooner if they would've fixed that problem.


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29. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
I agree...the judges shouldn't just be there for thier remarks...they should score each performer as well...Hell, even Star Search with Ass-holio Hall is combining judge and fan votes in some fashion!


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30. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
>Remember that the judges are not
>picking both wildcards. Like
>last year, the judges are
>only picking one wildcard.
>The fans are picking the
>other. So if there
>is enough of an anti-Kimberly
>Caldwell contingent out there, she
>will have to rely on
>the judges wildcard.

managerr, how do you know that the public will choose one of the wildcards and the judges the other? I thought the judges chose both wildcards.

Where did you get this info?


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31. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"
This is the first confirmation I've found of how the 2 wildcards will be picked:

"Eight more will compete each of the next three Tuesdays for six more spots; the judges and viewers each will pick one wild-card winner during the week of March 3."
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2003-02-05-idol-trista_x.htm

So, I am assuming this means that in the week of March 3, 8 performers will be chosen from the rejects to compete one more time, the audience will vote for one of them, and the judges will choose one more to round out the final 10. Now...how will they select the 8? The people who got the 3rd and 4th most votes each week? (Judging by Simon's comments, it seems like it will be up to the judges/producers).

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32. "RE: American Idol - The First Eight"

> Now...how will they
>select the 8? The
>people who got the 3rd
>and 4th most votes each
>week? (Judging by Simon's
>comments, it seems like it
>will be up to the
>judges/producers).

Thanks for the info alleyb. Remember that last season, the judges selected 5 losers for the wildcard show. I believe they decided this based how much they liked each performer and if that performer had a chance of actually winning the title.

I remember Simon telling them, that the one they selected as the wildcard, the judges hoped would not be the first eliminated in the finals.

They got there wish, RJ ended in fifth place.


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