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"If you hate George Bush but love great music...."
LAST EDITED ON 10-13-04 AT 01:22 PM (EST)

...then you must go out TODAY and buy Green Day's new album, American Idiot.


It's actually being called a punk-opera because the whole album tells an interweaving story from one song to the next. Its easily the best story album since Pink Floyd's Dark Side or The Wall or Radiohead's OK Computer.

Each song plays right into the next..and there are a couple of songs that have 5 different sub songs built into them bringing the total length of the song to about 9 minutes.

An absolutely great album, basically about how much Bush and today's version of America svcks.

My rating = 4 stars out of 4


So don't take the simple fact that I think Shakes is godlike to mean that I think he isn't an ass. -Samiam 10/12/04

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 RE: If you hate George Bush but lov... TeamJoisey 10-13-04 1
 But what if mrc 10-13-04 2
   RE: But what if miamicatt 10-13-04 4
   RE: But what if Lasann 10-13-04 9
   RE: But what if desert_rhino 10-13-04 31
 RE: If you hate George Bush but lov... cqvenus 10-13-04 3
   hey Cq shakes the clown 10-13-04 5
       RE: hey Cq cqvenus 10-13-04 6
           you just lost all credibility shakes the clown 10-13-04 8
               RE: you just lost all credibility bondt007 10-13-04 21
               RE: you just lost all credibility cqvenus 10-13-04 32
 RE: If you hate George Bush but lov... bondt007 10-13-04 7
   RE: If you hate George Bush but lov... seahorse 10-13-04 11
 Green Day should- KeithFan 10-13-04 10
   RE: Green Day should- Skiver 10-13-04 12
       RE: Green Day should- J Slice 10-13-04 13
           RE: Green Day should- nailbone 10-13-04 14
           RE: Green Day should- Skiver 10-13-04 26
       RE: Green Day should- KeithFan 10-13-04 16
           RE: Green Day should- J Slice 10-13-04 17
               RE: Green Day should- KeithFan 10-13-04 22
                   RE: Green Day should- J Slice 10-13-04 24
                       RE: Green Day should- KeithFan 10-13-04 30
   RE: Green Day should- FesterFan1 10-13-04 15
       RE: Green Day should- KeithFan 10-13-04 18
           RE: Green Day should- FesterFan1 10-13-04 19
               RE: Green Day should- KeithFan 10-13-04 23
                   RE: Green Day should- FesterFan1 10-13-04 25
                       RE: Green Day should- true 10-13-04 33
                           RE: Green Day should- FesterFan1 10-13-04 34
                               RE: Green Day should- true 10-13-04 35
                                   RE: Green Day should- FesterFan1 10-13-04 36
                                       RE: Green Day should- true 10-13-04 37
                                           RE: Green Day should- FesterFan1 10-13-04 38
                                               RE: Green Day should- true 10-13-04 39
                                                   RE: Green Day should- FesterFan1 10-13-04 40
   RE: Green Day should- PagongRatEater 10-13-04 27
       RE: Green Day should- KeithFan 10-13-04 29
 Word, Shakes geg6 10-13-04 20
 RE: If you hate George Bush but lov... Jims02 10-13-04 28
 RE: If you hate George Bush but lov... Draco Malfoy 10-14-04 41
   RE: If you hate George Bush but lov... Drive My Car 10-14-04 42
       RE: If you hate George Bush but lov... Draco Malfoy 10-14-04 43
           RE: If you hate George Bush but lov... Drive My Car 10-14-04 44
               RE: If you hate George Bush but lov... Draco Malfoy 10-14-04 47
                   RE: If you hate George Bush but lov... Drive My Car 10-14-04 49
                       RE: If you hate George Bush but lov... Draco Malfoy 10-14-04 50
                           RE: If you hate George Bush but lov... Drive My Car 10-14-04 51
                               RE: If you hate George Bush but lov... Draco Malfoy 10-14-04 52
           RE: If you hate George Bush but lov... true 10-14-04 45
               RE: If you hate George Bush but lov... Drive My Car 10-14-04 46
                   RE: If you hate George Bush but lov... Draco Malfoy 10-14-04 48

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1. "RE: If you hate George Bush but love great music...."

I'm agreeing wit da clown. Green Day... American Idiot. Buy it.


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2. "But what if"
one loves George W. and hates great music? What is your recommendation?

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4. "RE: But what if"
Then see Bacon's thread. I think.

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9. "RE: But what if"
Is this Jeb?

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31. "RE: But what if"
Yellowcard "Ocean Avenue"
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3. "RE: If you hate George Bush but love great music...."

i call this a concept album. which, nearly by definition, sucks.

tells a story? the wall tells a story. tommy tells a story. this? does not tell a story. it tells that green day feels they are Too Big now and can do whatever (read: whatever sh!t) they want.

i'm not a bush lover. i'm a bush hater. but? i hate concept albums.

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5. "hey Cq"
...have you even heard the album?

I'm not alone in my praise, Rolling Stone called it the best political album of the year.

And yes, it clearly does tell a story.


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6. "RE: hey Cq"

not in its entirety, to be completely honest. i have read the lyrics in their entirety. and i've heard snippets of music samples. and i think it's dookie.

and? wtf does that mean, best political album of the year? how many were in the running, exactly?

sorry i just hate when big name bands try to use their big name to make a stupid political statement. and that they expect me to pay $20 to listen to it.

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8. "you just lost all credibility"
and
>that they expect me to
>pay $20 to listen to
>it.
>

....anyone who would still pay $20 for an album since the invention of Best Buy clearly has lost touch with reality and should therefore not be counted on to render a useful opinion on such a topic.


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So don't take the simple fact that I think Shakes is godlike to mean that I think he isn't an ass. -Samiam 10/12/04

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21. "RE: you just lost all credibility"

And this album has what to do with reality?

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32. "RE: you just lost all credibility"

sorry. best buy. $13.99. plus tax. that's over $15. not quite $20, but still a lot, if you ask me. and not worth it. not that NO CD is worth $15. but that it is never worth $15 to listen to some washed-up schmucks who can't think of new material "make a statement."

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7. "RE: If you hate George Bush but love great music...."

Oops... thought is was about Michael Moore...

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...my bad...

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11. "RE: If you hate George Bush but love great music...."
I thought the same thing.

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10. "Green Day should-"




I loved their first CD- downhill since.

How's that for cross-threading?

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12. "RE: Green Day should-"
Their first CD was a limited-release on an independant label. Did you like "39/Smooth"? Or are you talking about their first big-label release, "Dookie"?


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I was actually listening to 'American Idiot' on Real Rhapsody when I saw this thread. So far, I prefer 'Warning', but the new one is very good.

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13. "RE: Green Day should-"
It's been pure downhill since after Insomniac. They lost any punk credibility they might've had.

Eff Green Day- they're another reason we have so many kids who look like they were vomited out of a Hot Topic.


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14. "RE: Green Day should-"
Our "Hot Topic" kids all either look really metal/Goth or like they stepped out of the 70's.


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26. "RE: Green Day should-"
Why do you reckon they lost all their credibility after 'Insomniac'? What did they do?


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16. "RE: Green Day should-"



Thanks for the info. I was actually referring to their first big one, Dookie. My tastes actually are more towards classic rock, but I did buy Dookie, Insomniac, and Nimrod.

Still looking for a punk rock band that lives up to the Ramones

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17. "RE: Green Day should-"
Dead Kennedys were incredible, but you'd hate 99% of what they had to say.

Hm... NOFX?


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22. "RE: Green Day should-"



I liked the DK in the early 80's (remember I used to be pretty left of center) but their music hasn't had the staying power, if you will, of the Ramones.

NOFX, Blink 182, et al- what can I say, I'm a couple days shy of 40 and the hip music scene has mostly passed me by. It takes something pretty special for me to listen to newer stuff, but that doesn't mean the music is bad, just that I don't have the time or enthusiasm to search them out.

Pass the Zeppelin please!

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24. "RE: Green Day should-"
I actually think you might be able to appreciate the Queers and Screeching Weasel. They're much more just plain raw rock than punk, and I love them both for that.


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30. "RE: Green Day should-"



Thanks for the recommendations Slice! I'll definately check them out!

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15. "RE: Green Day should-"
And the difference between Green Day and Laura Ingraham would be...?

Glass houses and stones. Just sayin'.

Fester
If musicians should "shut up", then she needs to quit pimpin' music on her website. Fair deal?

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18. "RE: Green Day should-"



And the difference between Green Day and Laura Ingraham would be...?

One is a reaction to the other. I'm sure if one would stop so would the other, but the opposite would not necessarily be true. Just my opinion, FWIW.

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19. "RE: Green Day should-"
One is a reaction to the other.

OK, and my reaction to her is that she's a big fat hypocrite. It's one thing for someone who doesn't get paid to spew rhetoric to tell musicians to "shut up and play music", but it's her friggin' job to clog the airwaves with opinion.

Now a book titled "You Call That an Opinion, You Dope Smoking Garage Band Full of High School Dropouts?" filled with how stupid their arguments are I wouldn't have a problem with.

Fester

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23. "RE: Green Day should-"



OK. I put that pic in there as more of a needling joke, you seem to feel more strongly than I do about it. Sorry if it really lit your fire.

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25. "RE: Green Day should-"
You don't have to apologize. You didn't write the book. It didn't "light my fire" because I have anything invested in Green Day. I could give a rat's ass about Green Day. I'm just calling a spade a spade is all.

Fester

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33. "RE: Green Day should-"
Come on baby, light my fire.

Now THAT was music.

Hiya Fester.

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34. "RE: Green Day should-"
Hey babe. Game 1 party at Chez True tonight?

Fester
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35. "RE: Green Day should-"
Yes it is! And, it's a good reason not to watch the debate!

I'm off to the store for snacks!

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36. "RE: Green Day should-"
My stoopid Fux affiliate is airing the Yankees-Sox game, of course. I have to find out where the real game is going to be on my dial.

Fester
Go Cards!

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37. "RE: Green Day should-"
You and 70% of the country. It has something to do with size, media markets and moolah. Try Fox Sports, that's where the AL game is being shown here.
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38. "RE: Green Day should-"
I don't get FSN on my DirecTV. I get Comcast Sports Net as my "local cable sports provider". I think they got the rights from Fox, though. I'll have to check.

They couldn't put it on F/X like they did over the weekend?

Fester

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39. "RE: Green Day should-"
I can't speak for your media market Fester, only my itty bitty insignicicant media market. I hope you get to watch it!


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40. "RE: Green Day should-"
Actually, your media market and my media market are comparable. For TV, St. Louis is ranked 21 and Baltimore 23. It's Landru's MARKET that's the big one. I live right on the border between the two, though technically still in the Baltimore market. </useless Fester demographic information>

I checked it out, and it will be on Comcast Sports Net.

Fester

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27. "RE: Green Day should-"
Nice job on the cross-thresd KF!


Is Thune a Packer's fan?


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29. "RE: Green Day should-"



Is Thune a Packer's fan?

He may be, but around here that's political suicide This is Vikings country (always the thorn- I support the Bears)

Bows to a masterful cross thread by PRE.

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20. "Word, Shakes"
I'm down with the clown.

Terrific album.

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28. "RE: If you hate George Bush but love great music...."
Green Day? They're *so* 20th century...


But I'll still probably give it a listen.

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41. "RE: If you hate George Bush but love great music...."
Wow. I'm actually lvoeing Shakes. Damn serial killer bond...

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42. "RE: If you hate George Bush but love great music...."
Would I like it?
Help me out here, Draco, you know Im old and not hip to the kids music.

( thinking about checking it out for the old man)

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43. "RE: If you hate George Bush but love great music...."
Maybe. You're old so it might be too loud for you tho.

My advice to you is to give the single a listen first.

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44. "RE: If you hate George Bush but love great music...."
Is there anywhere I can listen online that isnt stealing?



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47. "RE: If you hate George Bush but love great music...."
You can see the videos on launch.yahoo.com or mtv.com. mtv's is the "radio edit" version, if your sensitive buggy ears can't handle profanity.


Or turn your radio to the Edge. They play it about 10 times a day right now. Just make sure you come back to us when you're done.

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49. "RE: If you hate George Bush but love great music...."
But Ill miss the Rush rants!

Where is this Edge?



I hate being old! Help me be cool, Draco.

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10-14-04, 09:29 AM (EST)
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50. "RE: If you hate George Bush but love great music...."
Rush? Oh, Buggy... I worry about you so hard now. If you're gonna listen to someone who leans conservative, at least Bill O'Reilly tries to keep it fair and balanced. Unless he's asking you to use a vibrator.


102.1 fm. Don't tell anyone I told you where it is.

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51. "RE: If you hate George Bush but love great music...."

Im really sort of a 105.3 girl.

( so who is gonna start the O Reilly thread?)


Cool, now if I can just figure out how to program my crappy car stereo Ill be on my way to coolness

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52. "RE: If you hate George Bush but love great music...."
105.3? This explains so much.


I'll light a candle for you.

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45. "RE: If you hate George Bush but love great music...."
You're old so it might be too loud for you tho.

Too loud? You've never met Mr. Buggy. Nothing, I repeat, nothing is too loud for that man. Right Buggy?

LOL!

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46. "RE: If you hate George Bush but love great music...."
True that, True!

I think there may be a tooloud setting, but that would mean the windows broke instead of just shaking.


I wonder why all the houses on my street are up for sale?


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48. "RE: If you hate George Bush but love great music...."
Dammit... I'm gonna have to make plans to stay longer when I head to Granbury.


I'll just follow the sounds of booming bass then?

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