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"Can we see the path now?"
geekboy 1788 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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05-05-05, 01:48 PM (EST)
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"Can we see the path now?" |
Is it pretty obvious now how this will run its course?4 - Anthony 3 - Vonzell Final two of Carrie vs. Bo? (with Bo winning of course) Or does anyone see it otherwise? geekboy
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geekboy 1788 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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05-05-05, 02:02 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Can we see the path now?" |
I _strongly_ disagree. I think Vonzell/Carrie are more of a one-trick pony than Bo anyday.I am predicting NOW, on May 5,2005, at 1:12 pm CST that Bo is the winner of AI4. There. I said it. *raises a toast to Glow* geekboy
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geekboy 1788 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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05-05-05, 02:21 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Can we see the path now?" |
Yeah, i'm going out on a limb, but i think its a pretty safe and sturdy limb.My wife's comments on V has always been "She sounds like any other female pop/R&B singer." and i must agree with her. Carrie, as has been debated here eternally, is simply boring. Bo is your winner. geekboy
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LozengeofLove 1060 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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05-05-05, 07:52 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Can we see the path now?" |
I think there was a point where many people considered Constantine and Carrie as favorites to win, since neither had every been in the bottom three.And then Connie left. So I don't think the fact that Vonzell's been in the bottom three twice (which is less often than not) is evidence enough to rule her out of the top two. My prediction is that Vonzell and Bo will be the top two, with Carrie being the surprise third place boot. But Bo will still win. Handcrafted by RollDDice
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sodiumswirl 79 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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05-05-05, 03:00 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Can we see the path now? - Final Four across the seasons" |
I wonder if this could possibly happen... 4. Carrie (shock!) 3. Anthony (backlash!) 2. Vonzell (outclassed!) 1. Bo (wins)
I mean look at seasons 1 and 3:
Season One + Three parallels 4. .Tamyra. vs. .La Toya. (shock!) 3. .Nikki. vs. .Jasmine. (backlash!) 2. .Justin. vs. .Diana. (outclassed!) 1. .Kelly. vs. .Fantasia. (wins) Or it could hust be a rehash of season 2's Final Four:
4. Josh Gracin (ho hum) 3. Kim Locke (real close) 2. Clay Aiken (even closer) 1. Ruben (by maybe 0.1%)
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PhoenixMons 4696 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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05-05-05, 03:22 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Can we see the path now?" |
Fantasia and Vonzell's styles are actualy not very similar. Fantasia sings soul/gospel R&B (Aretha Franklin, Roberta Flack, etc.) and her voice is the perfect match for that style. Vonzell, OTOH is all about R&B-styled pop (more like Christina Aguilera or D-Child) and her voice is best suited for this style as well. But, I suppose to the general viewership, they are similar in style. Stage presence should be extremely important in this competition. Who the heck would want to go to a concert put on by a robot with a good voice? Certainly not me. Fantasia was the ultimate idol, IMO, because she had absolutely the best stage presence AI has ever seen (save maybe Frenchie) on top of a phenomenal and very distinct voice...and she sang with passion. That's why I like Bo as much as I do. It's obvious that Bo loves what he's doing. He's passionate about music and performing and it shows. I still don't think any of these people are really at Fantasia's level (wish her CD would have done better on the regular charts - her videos are on BET all the time though), but I'm definitely backing Bo at this point, with Vonzell as my second choice (the best stage energy of the bunch). Carrie needs to go away. She can't possibly be taken seriously if she doesn't even take the time to understand what she's singing about (seriously...how can you possibly convey the song to an audience if you don't know what you're singing about?)...and Anthony...well, he's just out of his league. It *should* be
4. Anthony 3. Carrie - horrendous on stage but has a huge fan base because of her genre 2. Vonzell - great voice (she sounds great on her demo), marketable, and cute/bubbly personality 1. Bo - pretty good voice, extremely good performer, knows what it means to be a good musician in every sense of the word It *will* be the same but with Carrie and Vonzell switched. Got blog?
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aquariaqueen 2616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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05-05-05, 03:06 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Can we see the path now?" |
I go with Geekboy's prediction, however, I would love to see Vonzel farther up the list. But I must be logical, she won't be.
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JOSHIDOL 275 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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05-05-05, 03:39 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Can we see the path now?" |
Bo's "Vehicle" was pretty fantastic. I cannot remember Ruben having a knockout performance except for one of his first songs the one by the "Carpenters" I think it was, can't remember the name of the song but maybe that was it?
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tamarama 1785 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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05-05-05, 05:26 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: Can we see the path now?" |
Ruben did "Superstar." It was fantastic.But non-winners have had those moments too -- Clay's "Solitaire" LaToya's "All By Myself" Trenyce's "Let's Stay Together" Ummmm...I'm sure there's more. As for Bo -- "Whipping Post" - without a doubt!! Though I also loved "Time in a Bottle" and "Vehicle."
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geekboy 1788 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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05-05-05, 04:19 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Can we see the path now?" |
I think the only 'knock-your-socks-off' performances were Anwar's initial two with "Moon River" and "What A Wonderful World" Those were the best of the season so far, i believe. Its a shame he couldn't keep performances and interpretations like those going. I'm still patiently waiting each week for Bo to really nail a song and generate a true "WOW" moment. since this is season four, i have a feeling that the contestants have their 'killer song(s)' waiting in the wings and they should be bringing them out next week if they're smart. geekboy
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bostonrobfan 490 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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05-05-05, 03:47 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Can we see the path now?" |
I think A-Fed will go next, then Carrie, and a final 2 of Bo and Vonzell.
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zazzy 4390 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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05-05-05, 03:51 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Can we see the path now?" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-05-05 AT 03:54 PM (EST)I think Bo will win. He shows the most talent and is the most consistent. I also think the judges say very little in giving him their comments because he may be blowing the other contestants away with votes each week--after we had the wake up call the one week he was in the bottom three, that is. If not, they seem hesitant to be critical--his sunglasses was all we have heard as criticism in the past few weeks--so that could mean they do not want to mess with their golden egg star. Carrie, in contrast, has gotten more pointed criticism. This is also the first season that I like all four of the finalists--Anthony has grown on me over the past couple of weeks even though I do not think he will win. I think we need to look at the teenage factor--there is a second place pattern over the last three seasons: Season one: Kelly Justin *** (teen pick) Nikki Tamyra Season two: Ruben Clay *** (teen pick) Kim Josh Season three: Fantasia Diana *** (teen pick-she was a teenager, too) Jasmine Latoya Season four: Bo Carrie or Anthony (which is the top teen pick?) Anthony or Carrie Vonzel Will Scott voters support Anthony? Has Carrie pulled in the country faction that took Josh G to fouth place in season two? Is Carrie's support country voters + teenagers? Nailbone mentioned the key performance factor--wasn't Fantasia's Summertime performance a late in the contest performance? I am looking forward to Bo being able to do the songs he wants to do, not having to fit into the week's theme, to blow us away. At the very least I hope he repeats Whipping Post or a Blood, Sweat and Tears song.
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JOSHIDOL 275 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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05-05-05, 04:34 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Can we see the path now?" |
Once again, Clay Aiken never made it to the Bottom 3 or 2 and still did not win the competition. Carrie has 2 weeks left to make it into this place. Fantasia went to the Bottom 3 what 3 times last year if I am not mistaken. I do not think that matters at all
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ddogg 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-05-05, 05:11 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Can we see the path now?" |
I think Bo #1 Vonzell #2 Carrie #3 and Anthony should not even be in this bunch. He should have been sent home before NIKKO
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tamarama 1785 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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05-05-05, 05:54 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Can we see the path now?" |
Hmmmm...what I wish for:4. Carrie 3. Anthony 2. Vonzell 1. Bo Someone above noted that in seasons 1&3 there was a shock vote at 4th place - Tamyra & LaToya. If that happens, it may be Carrie or Vonzell going next. Of course, Vonzell has been near the bottom a few times, and Carrie not at all...BUT... Just as I figured Constantine's votes were going to split between two people (Anthony & Bo - not that we'll ever know for sure), I think Scott's votes will go to one of 2 places: Scott was an R&B singer -- his R&B votes will go to Vonzell Scott was an underdog -- his underdog votes will go to Anthony If this happens, it could prop those two up & boot Carrie earlier than expected.
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Devious Weasel 18756 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-05-05, 06:07 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Can we see the path now?" |
I think we've had our surprise boot. I don't think you could consider either4. Anthony 3. Vonzell or 4. Vonzell 3. Anthony to be a surprise.
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TODDLJ 421 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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05-05-05, 09:34 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: Can we see the path now?" |
In the 4-year history of Idol, out of the 46 finalists, only four contestants have ever made the final 4 without ever being in the bottom 2 or bottom 3. That elite group includes only Tamyra, Kelly, Clay and... Carrie Underwood.Granted, Tamyra was booted at 4. Yes, that was shocking. But nothing that shocking has ever happened again, despite Fox's attempts to sell every boot as a 'surprise' boot. The other people booted in 4th place, Josh and LaToya, had both been in the bottom more than once before... and so their boots were no shock. NONE of the final 3 boots have been AT ALL shocking. Nikki, Jasmine, and Kimmel were all frequent bottom dwellers, and all three were considered 'obvious' boots. Carrie's not going anywhere. She's a lock on final 2.
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cambo 286 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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05-05-05, 09:48 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: Can we see the path now?" |
>Carrie's not going anywhere. She's >a lock on final 2. >This season has been pretty dull b/c Carrie has been a lock to get to the final two ever since the final 12 were announced. I thought it was going to be between either her and Constantine or Bo. She was proclaimed as the golden girl by Simon and can do no wrong to her fans. She kicks down a microphone and everyone raves at how much personality she showed on stage. Can she sing? Yes. Is she head and shoulders above the competition? No. She shows zero personality on stage. Bo is a MUCH better performer than Carrie.
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TeamJoisey 3558 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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05-05-05, 11:10 PM (EST)
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42. "Carrie will win" |
Final 2: Carrie vs. Bo, an inevitable conclusion once Constantine was eliminated.I have always believed Carrie was headed for the final two. And I'm willing to follow geekboy into the trees to say she is going to win. She fits the audience demographic, appeals to a larger genre and, based on previous voting, she has a very strong fan base. Remember that Carrie has been among the top vote getters even when her performances were weak. Even when they were worse than weak. She is the classic Red State American Idol. A cute, clean, country Daughter of the American Heartland. This competition, when you break it down, is Amateur Hour. America will select someone they want to see win the whole thing. A Moment Like This, and all that. She's not perfect, she's normal. She's a sister/daughter/pal/girlfriend. Carrie represents hope and promise, and that's the essence of this entire show. Harold Bice Junior, despite some good performances, does not measure up. He is clearly a professional musician whose lack of charisma has failed to win him a large audience despite 10 years of trying.
A Rocker? Bah! Can you see Mick Jagger entering a contest this cheesy? Bo is a talented but ultimately sad wannabe whose career was being played out in smoky barrooms. Why should he win America's Talent Lottery, when he failed to make anything of himself or his band? I say he's an unfortunate consequence of the new age limits. He really doesn't even belong here. I think Bo proves they ought to lower the age limit to 24, and allow American Idol to find more unpolished diamonds. I'd rather see them unearth uncut gems than strive to identify the mediocre but highly polished cubic zirconium he represents. That said, I'm not buying any records. They're all dismal. I only watch so I know who to hate the next day.
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kahanasunset 466 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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05-06-05, 00:21 AM (EST)
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44. "RE: Carrie will win" |
So, TJ, is Bo Bice the "fake" that Simon was referring to in the evening entertainment show trailers yesterday? (which got buried in the scandal news.)
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nicola 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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05-06-05, 06:05 AM (EST)
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45. "RE: Can we see the path now?" |
i really, really, reeeaaly want bo to win, but... i think america's on carrie's side. i mean i hope im wrong, but instinct tells me that in the end she's gonna get those votes. either anthony or vonzell are leaving next (my prediction- anthony) and their fans fall into the whole r&b/pop genre, which is closer to carrie than it is to bo. and then there's the whole simon prediction thing. i mean even though people say they hate simon, he's always spot on with his comments. i dont really like carrie that much, i mean she's had some pretty horrible performances, and has never been in the bottom 3, so obviously america loves her. as for bo *sigh* hes just amazing and no he is not a fake rocker rock has soooo many different variations to it there's soft rock, hard rock, pop rock, metal rock i mean the list is really long. and if i remember correctly, bo didnt come to american idol like because he was trying to kick start his career or whatever it was a bet or something he made with his mom. it would be really awesome if he did win... he has MY vote! - nicky
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