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"Whew!"
dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-27-04, 12:01 PM (EST)
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For a little bit there I thought Pat Robertson and I were on common ground on a separation of church and state issue. Turns out he was just putting his own anti-Islamic spin on something not really all that controversial (he yakked this up on his program last night).http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/News/040422d.asp Michigan City Approves Muslim Call to Prayer Broadcast (note: headline misleading) The Muslim call to prayer can now be blared over loudspeakers in a Detroit suburb. The city council of Hamtramck, Michigan, has given preliminary approval to allow the prayers at a local mosque. (nice of them to allow Muslims the right to pray at their own Mosques: more spin, in other words) From now on, five times a day, the Muslim call to prayer will sound in the quiet Polish-Catholic town. The issue to allow the prayers has been divisive, to be sure. (divisive, yes it certainly is, Robertson et al are doing there best to make it divisive anyway) Muslims say the public call to prayer is like the sound of church bells. But the city council has spoken. The prayers can be broadcast, but they will be monitored. Rob Cedar, a resident who voted for the ordinance, said, "We are allowing it to happen because it is religious freedom. But we are also regulating it because it is a sound issue, or a noise issue."
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DSpunk 3270 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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04-27-04, 02:42 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Whew!" |
ever been to Venice?
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Tiggertramp 3141 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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04-27-04, 12:56 PM (EST)
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Well, that's no big deal. I see no big thing there. Now if any church were broadcasting long prayer things for an hour over loudspeakers, THEN I'd be cranky. Like when I lived in Minneapolis, in a not so great part of town, there was a Baptist church who had these revivals on Saturday evenings and Sunday mornings outside, early Sunday mornings in the summer. At first it wasn't a big deal, you would hear some music wafting over (from a block away mind you) on occasion or the crowd ooo-ing. The kicker for me was when a preacher got on a tear and cranked the system at 7am Sunday telling the entire neighborhood how god was going to save us. Sorry, nothing was going to save him from me. I called the cops. I was NOT the only neighbor who did so, thankfully. There were no more outdoor revivals. Turns out you need permits, and they didn't have one. Bells? Tones?? A small announcement?? Heck I can live with that. Excellent siggy by JSlice, Worm by the Fab IceCat I wish I were a glow worm, A glow worm's never glum...Cuz how can you be grumpy, When the sun shines out your bum??
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-27-04, 04:13 PM (EST)
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Right, it is simply an issue of amplification. Calls to worship at mosques, yes five times a day, are a traditional part of the religion, it is what they've always done, they just haven't always had loudspeakers. The city government has tried to avoid taking a stand on any religious grounds, it is simply saying they can do what they want as long as they abide by the civil standards that everyone has to abide by in terms of noise pollution, it really isn't any different than the church bells going off 24+ times a day in some places (and some churches nowadays don't even have actual bells, just an electronic amplification system simulating bells). The argument that they can do it as loud as they want hasn't been upheld, just that they have a right to do it within the standards that everyone in the community is obliged to observe.That's what I determined from my various searches to find out what was going on here, anyway. Feel free to correct any misinterpretations I may be under, it's all good. Robertson is still a vile hatemonger in his approach to this issue, however.
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