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"NO MORE STUPID CONTESTANTS !!!!"
TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings
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04-27-02, 01:01 AM (EST)
 
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"NO MORE STUPID CONTESTANTS !!!!" |
Ever since Richard Hatch figured out how to beat the system, EPM has been obsessed with ensuring that he doesn't get outsmarted again. While his solution appears to be this constantly mucking with the rules and shuffling the tribes and the like to create tension and unpredictability in the program, his real (hidden) focus has been on ensuring that the contestants aren't smart enough to do what Hatch did.The result is obvious. Each season finds contestants who just get dumber and dumber. And if you don't believe me, compare, say, Varner with Colby with Brandon with Zoe. This season EPM finally has a group of survivors who can't even manage get three or four folks who can make a decent long term alliance. AWhile I am sure his ego is soothed by never having to feel challenged by this crowd, they turn out to be just dreadfully boring human beings. I bet if we went back and counted confessionals, the total number has dropped off considerably this season. And of that total Sean has a good proportion -- but he just kept saying the same thing over and over for the first half of the show. Even Kathy who seems to have 2 brain cells doesn't have much to say. And when we finally get a glimpse of say Zoe or Robert, aren't they fascinating? Putting these players together in a group doesn't produce better results. What do we see then? Morning prayers. Pre-challenge prayers. Grace. Communal crying. Simple declarative sentences. Sean "bonding" with his Marquesian brothers and sisters. Yawn. Burnett, get over it. Get us some contestants that might challenge your dominance. Stick your neck out. Fiddle with the rules all you want, but we need more -- God, I never thought I would hear myself say this -- like Varner and Hatch and Hawk. <mopping my brow> I feel better now. Thank you for your time. 
60 Pixel Series, No. 2
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samiam 5976 desperate attention whore postings
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04-27-02, 09:19 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Just Once!" |
I totally agree, dabo. What he needs to find are people who are there to play the game. Not folks who are there to kick-start an acting/modeling/commentating career. Not folks who are there "for the experience." Not folks who already have agents lined up before they *apply* for this horrible show. Not folks, by god, who are there to show off their assets for Playboy. Come on, Burnett. Stop typecasting and creating your own little sociology experiment. You are not God. You are not the ultimate chessmaster (who, we all know, is Michael from Love Cruise  ). Give us interesting people to watch and listen to, and we'll keep watching. Keep up your current casting methods, and pretty soon even the spoilers and bashers won't be able to sedate themselves enough to watch this claptrap. Oh, wait....maybe that's what he's TRYING to do. Never mind.  "You are a fluke of the Universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, the Universe is laughing behind your back." - Tony Hendra, Deteriorata
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PsychoDoc 95 desperate attention whore postings
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04-28-02, 11:50 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Just Once!" |
I agree with Dabo, Technoir and stuff from Nightscribe's post.
>Come on, Burnett. Stop typecasting
>and creating your own little
>sociology experiment. You are
>not God.
I think that you might be on to something here, Simiam. I guess this is as close as he'll get to playing God. It would probably make an interesting show, but don't think that Burn-it would be able to relinquish his control(His war against spoilers is a testament to that), and risk his ratings. Remember, the general public still dig this formula. As I was reminded recently by a wise poster, we are just a minority. I like to think that we, being more discerning and probably more intellectual when it comes to analysing this show, we also tend to expect more.
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JeffGator 1401 desperate attention whore postings
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04-27-02, 03:32 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: NO MORE STUPID CONTESTANTS !!!!" |
Right on! I couldn't agree more with what Technoir and dabo said. I'd also like to say that the confessionals have gotten less and less interesting each season. One thing that keeps me watching the show are humorous or otherwise interesting confessionals. As much as I hate Rob, I guess he did have a couple interesting ones but not a lot. I thought Survivor 3 was drastically worse than the first two, and S4 is the worst yet in that regard. I don't think there are contestants anywhere as funny as in the first two. I know Sean is supposed to be the funny man of S4, and I know he's said a couple humorous things, but overall I think that's pretty pitiful if he's the funniest one of this series. I don't care whether or not you liked him, my man Colby had some great confessionals-- That went over like a pickle in a punch bowl. If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas. I may be a lot of things, but I ain’t no Hershey Bar. I'm certainly not gonna just sit around and wait to be picked off by Kucha once we merge. That's not happenin' with this kid. Rodger, I'm real sorry, bro. I didn't even bring a skirt with me, so I can't do anything for ya. I was lyin' to Jerri. I didn't lose sleep over it. The guy couldn't fish a rubber ducky out of a bathtub. (referring to Kel's fishing abilities) Keith probably has the upper hand on the whole grasshopper wrangling. I've yet to figure out his method, but I may have to go to the master so he can teach young 'grasshoppuh' how to wrangle 'grasshoppuhs'. Take care of that, please (handing over his Texas flag). The guy's a bozo. My game with Keith is done. It's over. I may have to stop and use the bathroom four times on the way back to camp, and it doesn't matter. If you think the odds are against you, then change the odds, If you think you don’t have a chance, then change your thinking. And he hasn't been the only one--Survivor 1's Sean said many hilarious things, as did Greg, Jeff Varner (I hated him but i gotta give him props) and many other contestants from the first 2 seasons. I can't remember what Jerri's confessionals were like, but I remember how she played the game, and while i hated her with a passion, she was one of the most interesting characters of all time. And then there was Rudy's confessionals which were sooooo funny. And Richard Hatch's confessionals were pretty interesing as well. I think this casting department needs to stop picking people at random. I swear that they're doing it by lottery! When they interview contestants, I think the most important thing they need to look for is a sense of humor. There's a new show that's going to be on cable in the fall called Exiled, that's a cross between Survivor and Blair Witch Project, and they've narrowed it down from 4,000 contestants to only 30 of which I am one of them. I have to go to Savannah, Georgia next week for the last round of interviews to see if I make the final 12 people, but anyway, the producer told me that the reason I'm in the top 30 is because of my sense of humor. I told a lot of jokes on camera during the first interview, and I think the Survivor staff needs to look for more people who are funny instead of drawing straws or rolling dice to see who is picked. PICK ME MARK BURNETT! I SWEAR I WOULD MAKE THE SHOW MORE INTERESTING! lol--i still have 1 year, 4 months, and 4 days before I am old enough to apply Am I an obsessed fan or what? 
Richard Hatch/Tina Wesson/Ethan Zohn/Kathy O'Brien
"There's some milk in the fridge that's about to go bad...and there it goes."--Bobby Hill
 --Pappy's getting a little happy
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04-27-02, 09:59 AM (EST)
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Wow, Congratulations Jeff! I'm simply in awe  . Would it be okay, if I said I knew you when . . .  . But SEEERRIOUSLY, Please let your #1 fan , know if you get accepted. BTW, which Cable station will "Exiled," be on? I live in Canada; I want to know if I can get it out here. Good Luck Jeff, I hope you make it; although, I will miss you,  terribly.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Peter: Me and Sean, we're sitting here just chillin'. 
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Swami 5885 desperate attention whore postings
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04-27-02, 01:40 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: NO MORE STUPID CONTESTANTS !!!!" |
I couldn't agree more, Jeff. And btw, conga-rats on...they've narrowed it down from 4,000 contestants to only 30 of which I am one of them. I have to go to Savannah, Georgia next week for the last round of interviews to see if I make the final 12 people *sniff* I still remember your first post on SB, and now you're all growed up and ready to be a media-whore yourself. We're so proud. If I watch that show, I will pick out whoever I think is you and bash them without kindness or mercy. That way you will know I love you. *blows Jeff a kiss*  Swami
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JeffGator 1401 desperate attention whore postings
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04-27-02, 03:01 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: NO MORE STUPID CONTESTANTS !!!!" |
*sniff*, i'm too choked up right now to say anything.
Ok, now that I've blown my nose, I'd like to say thank you to Teddy and to Swami--thank you guys for making me feel so at home here. You two gals are the best and i really mean that! I know this sounds bad, but I don't know what cable station it's going to be on (I don't even have cable right now), I don't think it's going to be a huge deal or anything. The winner only gets $3,500 (not $1,000,000) and it only lasts 2 weeks as opposed to 39 days. It's only 10 episodes long. And I haven't even made the show yet, but it is an honor to be in the top 30 of 4,000 and I'll keep you guys up to date if I make the show. I do have a 12 in 30 chance so that's pretty good. I go to Savannah, Georgia on May 19 but they won't tell me if I've made it until 2 weeks before filming (which starts on July 14). It's actually for Exiled 2, not Exile 1, apparently Exile 1 is supposed to premier this summer and 2 will be in the fall.
here's the link to the Exiled webpage if you want to see what it's about-- http://www.zilo.com/shows/ex/
It seems very amateurish compared to our wonderful survivor, but it might be the next best thing for me, for now. And I could definitely use the $3,500 to buy some jewelry and other presents for Teddy and Swami, hehe.
Lots of love,
jeff
Richard Hatch/Tina Wesson/Ethan Zohn/Kathy O'Brien
"There's some milk in the fridge that's about to go bad...and there it goes."--Bobby Hill
--Pappy's getting a little happy
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04-27-02, 11:11 AM (EST)
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6. "Are you guys fuked up?!" |
Come on, think about this for a second.If you get a group of 16 that ALL want to play the game, and there are NO switches, then what are we gonna get? I'll tell ya. We are gonna get a group of 5 people picking off another group of 4 one by one. Since when is that interesting? We need stupid wishy washy people out there, or else it's gonna be nothing but predictable. Why the hell would I watch when I know exactly who's gonna be voted off? dabo's idea of playing it straight, with all due respect to dabo, is STUPID! I personally don't wanna see five asshole like people pick off another four asshole like people one by one. In this season, we got to see a power shift. Tell me that wasn't cool. Come on, can you honestly tell me that you would have found it interesting if John and his dimwitted cronies picked everyone off one by one?
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Swami 5885 desperate attention whore postings
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04-27-02, 02:06 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Are you guys fuked up?!" |
We are gonna get a group of 5 people picking off another group of 4 one by one. Since when is that interesting? We need stupid wishy washy people out there, or else it's gonna be nothing but predictable.Why the hell would I watch when I know exactly who's gonna be voted off? dabo's idea of playing it straight, with all due respect to dabo, is STUPID! I personally don't wanna see five asshole like people pick off another four asshole like people one by one. You're kidding, right? Sixteen smart people who know how to play the game would create a funfest of secret alliances, smart alliance switches, and sudden, delightful back-stabbings. What fun! They might even have interesting confessionals--not the self-serving I am so honest and full of integrity clap-trap we are getting now. And some might have a great sense of humor! It would be, IMO, like comparing a meeting of the Ladies Garden Club (with its cliques & petty ostrasizing) to an illegal, back room big City Council meeting (where some of the nastiest stuff I know goes down.)
In this season, we got to see a power shift. Tell me that wasn't cool.
And the Survivors were so stupid that MB had to rub their noses in it via his clever IC before they caught a clue. Come on, can you honestly tell me that you would have found it interesting if John and his dimwitted cronies picked everyone off one by one? Hello? Smart people would notice they were targets, not lay down to get picked off. They would do something interesting!
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04-27-02, 01:46 PM (EST)
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8. "Want Excitement?" |
Here is a recipe for sixteen survivors that would guarantee some interesting episodes.Each tribe would consist of: 1) one Belfast Catholic
2) one Belfast Protestant
3) one Christian Serb
4) one Muslim Albanian
5) one Israeli soldier
6) one Palestinian Islamic Gihad
7) one Armenian
8) one Turk The supplies would consist of a big bathtub full of huumus. It wouldn't matter how smart they were or how well they played the game. Hilarity would almost certainly ensue.
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Fast Eddie 625 desperate attention whore postings
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04-29-02, 09:18 AM (EST)
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17. "MB's books" |
You get interesting insights if you read them. The first was written entirely during the filming of S1, almost as a diary. It starts out with a paragraph predicting that Hatch would be the first voted out. By the end, the tune has changed entirely and you can see MB's admiration for how Rich played. In the second, written before S2, MB calls Rich a "master strategist". Later, he outlines 20 strategies and their pros and cons. He predicts that another Rich wouldn't win again, because everyone would see it coming now and get rid of him before he established too much power.But the real discouraging thing in the second book was right at the end, where he tells people not to take the show too seriously, as it's just entertainment. It's obvious then that he has no intent of establishing a real, honest game with good players. He will get contestants and manipulate in order to provide entertainment to the masses. That's his right, and no doubt his mandate, but disappointing to gamers, and a sure sign that the players are more likely to be less skillful, rather than more.
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