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"Early Election Questions"
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03-15-04, 08:18 AM (EST)
 
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"Early Election Questions" |
Yes, the Presidential Election. Its not all that far off, you know.  Heres the question......for those of you who are going to vote the Democrat ticket, is it a vote for John Kerry or a vote against George Bush? I know that there are lots of people who are still undecided, so for you all, what is the big issue thats going to swing your vote one way or the other? For those of you voting the Republican ticket, you obviously think GWB is doing a decent job, but what would you like to see him address more in his second term?
Thanks for playing.
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03-15-04, 10:12 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Early Election Questions" |
In the end, I will probably vote for GW. I think he has done many things right, but I am really concerned about the deficit. I also think Social Security and Medicare need a second look as droves of baby boomers begin to retire and put a strain on the system.
I also think he should not be messing around with any Constitutional Amendments.
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03-15-04, 10:20 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: Early Election Questions" |
Hey Buggy!
*waves back*
What'cha doin?
Me? Im composing a nasty letter to US Air
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03-15-04, 11:05 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Early Election Questions" |
my kids have had so many long weekends and short days, I dont think they should get a spring break.
If Southwest were flying my family to Dallas instead of here, Id be writing to thank them
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03-15-04, 11:21 AM (EST)
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25. "RE: Vote BoogerBoogerFartyButt ticket!" |
I feel you have an anti-hockey bias, and I just can't support that. 
Handcrafted by RolldDice.
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03-15-04, 12:16 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Vote BoogerBoogerFartyButt ticket!" |
I will vote this ticket under the condition that you add weiner to the ticket.
boogerboogerfartbuttweiner ticket. That is a 3rd party I promise to vote for.
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03-15-04, 11:19 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Early Election Questions" |
I dislike Bush and Kerry at this point. If we don't have a good third party candidate, I may stick with a Bush vote. Bush screwed some diplomatic channels up by bucking the UN, but seems to be trying to repair the damage. I fear his pushing church and state issues together. Kerry is wishy-washy, too negative about ANY war, and only won the democratic nomination due to Dean's verbal screw-ups & media coverage. He's kind of like Gore to me - I think he'd crumble as President. The major issue I want solved is how to keep manufacturing jobs and such in American instead of heading overseas. I think this is at such a nexus of many other issues. It involves the environment, taxes, jobs, and foreign policy (trade). The candidate who can solve that best has my vote. I don't think Kerry nor Bush have a good answer. I don't know if anyone does have the perfect answer.
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27. "RE: Early Election Questions" |
is it a vote for John Kerry or a vote against George Bush?Both. I was kind of luke-warm on Kerry during much of the primary season. In the last week or so he seems to be getting more comfortable in his role and I like the way he hasn't backed down in the face of critism, and has resisted being "defined" by others (mostly Republicans). I do NOT like Bush. He has run up an enormous deficit with his economic/tax policies. I don't like his trying to open the constitution. He can't seem to seperate his religious views from his political agenda. I'm still mad about the Florida debacle & the Supremes. The economy is my big issue. The deficit is appalling, and more Bush will give us more deficit--I have little doubt of that. The "economy" that Bush is focussed on growing is the economy of the wealthy, not of me. The economic boons that result from out-sourcing jobs overseas have so little benefit for the American worker, but are a huge benefit to the major share-holders and executives (often, they are one and the same) of the big, multinational companies. Eventually, we will all live on WalMart wages & probably work there too, selling stuff made in China & Indonesia.  
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50. "RE: Early Election Questions" |
> And poor Florence
>is dead anyway!
And it was all Diana's fault. According to Mary, Flo was the most talented of the three, and the most charismatic and funniest in concert. Would like to have seen that. How much further can we hijack this thread (can't say "hijack" without thinking of "Airplane.")
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40. "Economy much better--for CEO's" |
This article appeared in the paper yesterday. (Bold mine) Value of CEO stock options increased 53% in 2003 Mark Jaffe
Bloomberg News
Mar. 14, 2004 12:00 AM Chief executive officers' pay was bolstered in 2003 by a rising stock market that lifted the value of their stock options 53 percent to a median of $8.3 million, says a study by compensation consultant Watson Wyatt Worldwide. The value of "in the money" options held by CEOs increased for the first time in three years as the Dow Jones industrial average rose 25 percent in 2003. The chief executives' cash bonuses last year jumped 13 percent to average more than $1 million, and base pay climbed 8.3 percent to an average $818,000, according to the review of 57 proxies. CEO pay has become an target of critics, including U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman William Donaldson, as it has grown seven times faster than the average worker's pay since 1982, according to a study by the Washington, D.C-based Institute for Policy Studies. The average chief executive makes 282 times the average worker, the institute said. "As the pay proxy season nears, CEO compensation levels and stock options will again take center stage," said Ira Kay, Watson Wyatt national director of compensation consulting. The Watson Wyatt study found that companies appear to be factoring in performance. At high-performing companies, chief executives' cash compensation rose 42 percent, while at companies in the bottom third CEO cash pay was down 7 percent.
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/business/articles/0314ceopay14.html
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35. "RE: Early Election Questions" |
I'll be voting for Bush.But he needs to spend less. And concentrate more on domestics issues. If there was a legitimate Libertarian candidate, I would go there.
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41. "RE: Early Election Questions" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-15-04 AT 07:11 PM (EST)Still think Edwards is contender for Veep. It's possible. I don't think he's a bad choice, but Kerry has to think about the composition of the Senate. Already, Kerry is a Democratic senator in a state with a Republican governor. I honestly don't think he'll pick another senator as a running mate, but could be wrong. Edited for clarity to add that while Edwards is from North Carolina which currently has a Democratic governor, North Carolina also has a governor election this year. 
My prediction: Bill Richardson, NM Governor
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38. "RE: Early Election Questions" |
Is it inappropriate to say that I'm waiting to see what happens with Ashcroft's recovery before I make a final decision? Yes? OK, well, remember, I didn't *say* anything. Just a simple question.  I am currently undecided. I am not a big fan of Bush. In my opinion, his administration has made the government bigger and more powerful than it needs to be, and he has spent too much money. In addition, the integrity of his administration leaves MUCH to be desired. OTOH, I'm not wild about Kerry's policies. If I vote the Democratic ticket, it will be a vote against the Bush Administration instead of for the Democrats. If I vote the Republican ticket, it will NOT be because I think "GWB is doing a decent job," I assure you.
I didn't mind writing-in a deserving Republican candidate in the primaries, but I don't think I could throw away a vote in the actual election. We'll see. This just might be the year.
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51. "RE: Early Election Questions" |
absolutely no offense taken.
The louder he talked of his honour, the faster we counted our spoons.
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55. "Bush ... and why" |
OK, the fact that I'm going to vote for Bush doesn't come as a surprise. It probably also doesn't come as a surprise that I would have supported Lieberman if he had ever become a serious candidate, or that I voted for McCain over Bush in the 2000 primaries. So ... two things (one more than you asked for, Esbee!):1) Why Bush over Kerry? Because I can't stand Kerry. Back in the days of VVAW, I was a big Kerry supporter. I liked Kerry's idea: have the veterans tell about how awful the war was. I still think it was key in mobilizing the widespread war opposition (and, if you want more testimony about what a FUBAR Vietnam was, read Michael Herr's Dispatches). Yet Kerry himself was a colossal poseur. I know this comes as old news to many of you, but the issue that forever defined Kerry's lack of character goes back to the VVAW. In April 1971, Kerry led a march of veterans to throw their medals onto the steps of the Capitol, symbolically rejecting the honor that they had earned in a war that they didn't believe in. He even spoke about how 'this administration forced us to return our medals.... These leaders denied us the integrity those symbols supposedly gave our lives.' (emphasis added) Kerry received a lot of press for throwing his medals back, too: http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/kerry_faq.html (see the third panel) Except ... he didn't throw his medals. He threw medals that a vet who couldn't make the trip had given him to throw as part of the protest. Meantime, he quietly kept his own medals, and when he became a U.S. senator, he put a display of the medals in his office. To me, this shows that Kerry doesn't actually have any convictions. If he believed in the idea of giving your medals back to the government strongly enough to lead a march advocating it, then Kerry should have thrown his own medals. He didn't. Instead, he wanted to straddle the issue. He wanted the fame and attention of leading the march, but he was cynical enough to hedge his bets, just in case he might want to show off those medals in the future ... as, indeed, he now does at every chance. I found this comment, from a Vietnam vet, expressed my own feelings about Kerry's actions: The first hint of a bit of disconnect in your style was when during your first Senate campaign you denied returning your war medals, with a thousand other veterans, in protest of the war during Dewey Canyon III. That was a bit of a shock, since for most veterans who returned their medals in that emotional ceremony on Friday, April 23, 1971, it was a very proud and healing moment. Your 1984 campaign response: You had returned the medals of a WWII acquaintance at his direction. All those 13 years everyone thought you had had the courage and leadership to return medals that to veterans who returned them represented medals of dishonor drenched in the blood of innocent Vietnamese who did not deserve to die for a lie, any more than our fellow US Americans. I guess you knew then that you were to be running for office. We see the same pattern of trying to have it both ways in all of Kerry's actions. Voting against Gulf War I, then voting for Gulf War II, then voting against funding the troops. Claiming to have voted for the Cuba sanctions before a Latino audience, when he actually voted against them. Constant flip-flops. In all, John Kerry believes in nothing except that John Kerry should be president. In that regard, he is more like George H.W. Bush than George W. Bush is! 2) What would I like to see Bush do in a second term? Well, although I really dislike Kerry and wouldn't vote for him as dog catcher, I don't think Bush has had a great first term. He has done some good things: the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq; the tax rate cuts; the prosecutions of the corporate crooks (note, BTW, that most of the theft began during Clinton II, but that doesn't let Bush off the hook for appointing Harvey Pitt as the first director of the SEC); and Karl Rove has generally pushed a pragmatic blend of Republicanism (even though many Democrats view him as the devil incarnate). Deficits are not a problem as long as investments in the U.S. remain attractive, BTW; bad economic times ALWAYS produce deficits, since many people suffer huge losses of income. As far as U.S. investments, I spend much of my day working with foreigners who want to invest their money in the U.S. But Bush has also pandered to the right on several issues, ranging from the appointment of Ashcroft as AG to his loopy proposed constitutional amendment against permitting any state to legalize gay marriage within its own borders. He's also pandered to others on individual issues (such as the steel tariffs, a pander to Pennsylvania and Ohio union workers). I personally am revolted by the idea of "homeland security," even though I fully comprehend the threat of al-Qaeda. And the intellectual lockstep imposed by the administration has led lower-level bureaucrats to suppress information that might be inconvenient to the stated policy, whether that information is a dissenting estimate of the cost of the proposed (since adopted) Medicare prescription drug benefit or the level of mercury emissions from California plants (and yeah, true information about WMDs probably fell victim to this as well, but at a level lower than Bush-Cheney-Rice). Make no mistakes, once Bush makes a policy decision, everyone else on his team makes sure that it's Administration policy. Yes, I know he's managed to keep the far right from running its own fringe candidate to split the 2004 vote (many Democrats have been actively encouraging a fringe right candidate, such as former Alabama Chief Justice Roy "10 Commandments" Moore). And yes, I know that Bush is never going to be the type of inspiring leader who can motivate with his words alone. Instead, he's more the CEO type -- in particular, the CEO who gets too close to his board of directors, kinda like Michael Eisner ... or the CEO who keeps his own people from possibly overshadowing him or sending a mixed message, kinda like Bill Belichick. Frankly, I'd REALLY like to see Bush break with the pattern in his second term. Bush has taken the lead on some items opposed by the right wing, such as immigration (BTW, have you noticed that a lot of the anti-immigration zealots have now moved to the LEFT wing? -- see the current battle in the Sierra Club for an example). Now we need to see more of that, and less of the zealots on the right. Oh, and I think Bush needs to work to implement a way of doing business, not just a series of expedient short-term actions. I personally think that the second term should be used to push more of a libertarian agenda in social areas (leaving out the loony anti-IRS thrust of the Libertarian Party), while retaining the economic policies advocated by Greg Mankiw, whom I think has done a GREAT job in trying conditions (9/11, the end of the Internet bubble, the massive corporate frauds, oil price shocks) to keep things from getting worse (the last such bubble bust lingered for around a decade, from 1971 to 1982). Yeah, I realize that this is a tepid endorsement of Bush. But that fits my feelings. Really, I'm voting more against Kerry than I am in favor of Bush. John Kerry ... to know him is to hate him.  Soylent Green: recycling America, one person at a time.
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