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"Techical Problems"
wdaveo 10 desperate attention whore postings
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05-26-04, 08:43 AM (EST)
 
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1. "RE: Techical Problems" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-26-04 AT 08:45 AM (EST)I 'heard' on the radio today (from the mouth of a guy writing an insiders book to AI3) that the producers changed the arrangement at the last minute (different arrangement from the first time she sang it). This writer said he talked to Diana's mom and that is what she told him. The mom said that Diana forgot and was singing the original arrangement. Nerves must have got the better of her.
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05-26-04, 05:07 PM (EST)
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"she said that her monitor failed on the last song."Well, that would explain the major boo boo. It wasn't like Diana to mess up that badly on whole measures of a song. Non-singer question: Why can't the singers hear the backup voices? They must have earphones on somehow? She looked upset to me at the close of last night. She kept a stiff upper lip, but she wasn't herself. If Simon knew they were in a sound proof area, then shame on him for saying that to her. (I'd still prefer a Fantasia win, but I don't really care.) I think her complaint is legit, but I am reminded of that skater whose laces had come loose (yeah, right) after she had flubbed her jump, and she got to try again. You know - the one that whacked Nancy Kerrigan.
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victoriamaxwell 14 desperate attention whore postings
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05-26-04, 10:19 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Techical Problems" |
LMAO!! Sorry to burst your bubble kids, but technical difficulties or no, ....her voice was flat, and she couldnt get her pitch right. The arrangement, the backup singers...none of these matter, the issue is what escaped her mouth, which was painful to listen to.
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okaychatt 2810 desperate attention whore postings
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05-26-04, 09:11 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: Techical Problems" |
Question: Do they have mini earphones to hear the choir, the band, and themselves? Is that what failed?
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05-26-04, 09:14 PM (EST)
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Exactly, okaychatt. You don't see any on-stage monitor speakers for the singers on this show -- they'd clutter the camera angles!
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05-26-04, 09:37 PM (EST)
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Thank you, AyaK. I can see that would be a major problem.
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05-27-04, 00:35 AM (EST)
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45. "RE: Techical Problems" |
That's why the order they sang in and the coin toss last week to decide was so important. No matter what was heard before what was the last impression we were left with?
Don't get me wrong. I'm a Fantasia fan from week 1.
Also, these kind of things happen when musicians are performing on the road and they have to just work their way through it. I think Diana handled herself really well if she was in fact experiencing all those problems with sound, etc.
The good part is they are both going to get a contract so either way they win.
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steppingrazor42 283 desperate attention whore postings
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05-26-04, 06:44 PM (EST)
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Flat is flat, no matter what, it's a bunch of dog doodoo to start blaming other things for going flat!!! That's such a joke. If you can sing on tune you will even if you can't hear yourself! I think she just got off track trying to hear the back up and lost the key.
I'd rather listen to 15 "yeah-yeah-yeah's" at the end of a Fantasia song than a smiley 16 year old version of "Don't Cry Out Loud", anyday!!!!!!
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EnglProf 888 desperate attention whore postings
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05-26-04, 10:49 AM (EST)
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Darn it if this is true. I would have voted for Diana last night (possibly for a long time too) were it not for her last song. After that fiasco, I just couldn't, in good conscience, vote for her. Because of Diana's last song, Fantasia had the better night of performances, but I don't like Fanty so I didn't vote. 
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05-26-04, 05:35 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Techical Problems" |
Me too EnglProf! I was totally unmotivated to vote for Diana after her last performance, I couldn't believe she could sing that badly. After hearing this I regret not voting for her
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05-26-04, 12:14 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Techical Problems" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-26-04 AT 12:18 PM (EST)I have to respond to one or another of these posts that say that if you don't like or vote for Fantasia that somehow you are a negative person. I don't like Fantasia and I never voted for her and I don't want her to win. That may sound negative to you because you don't agree, but it is simply my preference. I prefer Diana, I voted for her, and I want her to win. I would have voted for Latoya to win, I would have voted for George to win, I would have voted for Jennifer (who I wasn't really a fan of) to win over Fantasia. I liked all of their styles more than Fantasia's. I am permitted to have these preferences and I don't have to like the same thing you do. If you like Fantasia, good for you. Say so. Say why. But quit telling others here on this board that there is something wrong with them because they don't agree. We are all entitled to our opinions. I'll be happy for whoever wins because this is the fulfillment of their dream, but I don't have to agree with the vote or buy the winner's CD. I didn't last year, but I was glad for Reuben. There is nothing negative about my attitude and I will not start to agree with you just because you say so or because a phone vote says so. 
ETA: Sorry if this came out sounding highly irritated, but that is how I am getting with this whole thing. I think I will quit watching this show because it irritates me so much.
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05-26-04, 11:45 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Techical Problems" |
Yes, I noticed what seemed to be a techinical problem on Diana's last song, too, It was during the first half of the song, then it seemed to have cleared up. I thought it was a prob with her mike. The judges commented on it, too, but not as a technical problem, as a performance problem, that she got better during the middle of the song. It if were a technical prob, why didn't they recognise it as such? They are professionals.Was it a fix? No, of course not. It's a live show, these things happen. I believe there was a technical prob last year also, while Ruben was singing Imagine. Sounded all staticky. And there was, well, not a technical problem, but a lighting problem for Clay. The stage was dark and his face was lit from an unflattering angle. I said to my S.O.: "Uh oh, he looks like a vampire, this is going to hurt his votes". That's what I said, that's exactly what I said. I remember it clearly... Live performances, these things happen. No fix. Just why didn't the judges recognise this? Or was it not a tech prob?
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05-26-04, 01:59 PM (EST)
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Okay, so even if Diana sucked on her last song because of technical difficulties, what explains her first two performances??? Diana has had the same problems the entire season, which is oversinging, shouting, not being able to stay in tune, and inability to sing consistently through the verses --- she lives for belting out the long, high notes in the chorus of the songs...........which does not a singer make. Diana IS a good singer, but does not have control. It was worse on the third song, but she definitely had problems in songs one and two as well. Disparage Fantasia's "yeah, yeahs" all you want (yes, it can get a little annoying), but she still sings on key, consistently all the time. AND she can belt out the high notes. AND when she sings, she makes the song sound original, whereas Diana always sounds like she's just singing a (lesser) repeat of the same old song you've heard a thousand times. I think Disney should sign her if she doesn't win AI --- she'd be perfect for their canned versions of all things pop.
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05-26-04, 03:38 PM (EST)
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I'm not going to disagree with you, shanana, but I do think it's a matter of preference.I didn't notice any of the problems you mention for Diana's first two songs. I just saw an interview with Paula, and she said that Diana had been in tune the entire competition until the last song, and that she was thrown off by a technical glitch. About Fantasia, she may be in tune and on key as well, but to many of us she sounds like a kazoo. I'm sure a kazoo can be in tune, or on key, but it doesn't make it pleasant to listen to. Her voice, while sometimes fine with me, at others makes my skin crawl. Diana, while not my favorite, doesn't make my skin crawl. It's just a personal preference. I'm not a musical expert, so all this "in tune" talk goes right over my head. I just know what I like to listen to, and Fantasia isn't IT. That doesn't mean she isn't talented, and it doesn't mean that you (or anyone) shouldn't enjoy her. I just don't think she'll appeal to as many people as past winners. Speaking of the interview with Paula, she was joined by the producer (Nigel something) He said that the results would be controversial, and that the contest was not as close as it was last season. He also said there were more than 50 million votes cast. (they were on Good Day Live)
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05-26-04, 04:57 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Techical Problems" |
>she was joined by the
>producer (Nigel something) He
>said that the results would
>be controversial, and that the
>contest was not as close
>as it was last season.
> He also said there
>were more than 50 million
>votes cast.Well. "Controversial" tells us nothing, both contestants have their supporters, so SOMEBODY will upset regardless of who wins. This clever producer has used a word that will get our attention and encourage us to tune in. 'Controversial" is the same work that Cowell used in an interview recently about the show. He said that people watch it because it's controversial... seems to be the buzzword of choice in the AI administrations offices. Now, 'contest not as close as last season'. Hmmm. I don't many contests in the whole wide world could be as close as last season. 1,320? Or was it 13,200? No, 132,000 or whatever. The extra lines this year and more people with text messaging phones helped collect more of the votes from those who wished to vote, creating a larger gap between contestants. Last year, I dialed and dialed and never did get one single vote in. And that's why Clay lost. 
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05-26-04, 02:17 PM (EST)
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How does the "technical problems" in Diana's last song excuse her from the first 2 songs that were worse? Diana was horrible tonight with or without excuses. She will probably win, but I don't care. I would be happy for Fantasia if she were to win, but I really don't care. I won't cry if she loses, she's still going to get her chance at fame and so will Diana.
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05-26-04, 04:06 PM (EST)
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That is so true, they do not put anything into our pockets so I would not lose any sleep over who wins.
People are in an uproar once again over Simon's comments, geez, how long as this guy bee like this and people still do not have him figured out. They get truly insulted when he says something demeaning to one of the contestants they like.
Nygel the producer was on Good Day live and said that 50 million votes were cast and it was close. That sounds like the same speech he gave last year for Clay/Ruben.
As long as people continue taking their bait, they will reel you in.
I think Fantasia should win due to the fact that she performs like a "seasoned veteran" while Diana could still use training and not to say one day she won't be big. I just can't see Diana putting out a CD that could sell millions like Kelly, Clay and Ruben. I do think Fantasia would be able to accomplish that and AI may know it.
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05-26-04, 05:36 PM (EST)
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LAST EDITED ON 05-26-04 AT 05:36 PM (EST)Hey Guys! I am new on here, from Wales in the UK, and I thought I would give my views on the series, as the final isnt shown here until Friday. First of all I would like to address the race issues that have been predominant throughout the series. American Idol and its voters are not racist, it is the most politically correct show ever! I will address this now: In AI1, the final comprised of a white mail and a white female- politically correct and not sexist. In AI2, the final comprised of a black man and a white man- policitcally correct and non racist In AI3 the final comprises of a black girl and a white girl- once again politically correct and non racist. Over here we have Pop Idol, we have had two series so far, the first one being the one that made Idol popular around the world and caused countries such as America, Canada and Australia buy the programme to be able to broadcast it. Pop Idol is also very politically correct. In series 1, the final was between 2 guys, 1 being straight and one being gay, and the gay guy won- politically correct and non homophobic. In series 2, the final was between a guy and a girl with the girl being seriously overweight- she won- politically correct and non biased towards slim people. The people who say American Idol is racist-Elton John included- should really go find something better to do. Anyway my thoughts on the final 2 of AI3: Diana clearly has the best voice. I think Fantasia is every talented, but I dont think she can sing as well as Diana can. I think Fantasia overuses the "yeah yeah's" but you all knew that already. It also seems that she only has one vocal register- when she belts out notes, it doesnt sound like she is belting them out, it seems sometimes that she is screeching them. Diana on the other hand switches from her lower register (which i admit needs some work on) and her higher one, and with this she belts out notes suberbly. The best singer in the competition was blatantly Latoya- she was superb and had she been in the final with Diana, I would be very stuck on who to vote for! I have read reviews and its obvious the judges are favouring Fantasia. Ive also read stuff about people saying Diana hasnt been through the experience that Fantasia has, so she couldnt sing that song as good. Oh please!!! Give me a break haha! Just coz Fantasia has a kid, she is more experienced in her life and we are to praise her for it? I dont think so. So I guess you are pretty close to watching the results show guys!!! I hope Diana wins, but then again, these shows have a knack for the best singers losing. In our Pop Idol second series this year, the best singer (a guy called Chris Hide) came fourth, just like the best singer of the final twelve came this year on AI3 (Latoya). But its all down to popularity I suppose. So as the show draws near, good luck Diana and Fantasia, and may the best singer win!
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MarkP 318 desperate attention whore postings
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05-26-04, 05:58 PM (EST)
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I love reading the "I don't care, I really don't care, honest - I don't care, who cares, I'm serious - I don't care" posts from people who spend a lot of time on this board and make a point to bash one contestant whenever they get their chance. Lets get serious - we all care at least a little who wins otherwise we wouldn't be spending our time on this board...and my guess would be that the people with the stronger opinions on which contestant is better care a little more than others. I sit with my kids and we cared when they booted JPL, we cared when they booted George and we're going to care when they boot Diana. Will we cry? Nope...but we WILL care...and I'll admit that.
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05-26-04, 07:11 PM (EST)
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You make a good point, Mark.When I said I don't really care who wins, I didn't really mean I didn't have a preference. What I meant was none of this seasons contestants really grabbed my like Kelly, Clay or Ruben did. I did care who won the first two seasons, and this year I really don't because none of them have appealed to me personally. I'd like to see Diana win, because I think she needs the title more than Fantasia does, and I honestly think Fantasia would be better off without the burden of being the winner. She already has contracts lined up, and I'm sure they are better for her than the one the winner signed before the season even started. I bought Kelly's CD, and Clay's. I won't buy any from this season. I just don't care enough. Welcome to Blows!
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05-26-04, 06:43 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Techical Problems" |
My husband is a sound engineer. That is what he does for a living. He ran monitors for Sheryl Crow when she was first starting out. (before she was BIG in the business)He said, that it DOES MATTER, if they can't hear the back up singers or the music. They will sing flat and off key. It happens to the best of singers, singers that are seasoned. I feel sorry that this happened to her, but, it is what it is, and monitor problem or not, the finals are over. The winner will be whomever America chooses. If it is not Diana, oh well. Again, it is what is. 
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05-26-04, 07:18 PM (EST)
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I didn't mean that as a knock on anyone, I just thought it was a little funny that anyone on this board wouldn't care at all. Granted many of us don't care as much as in the past, but if you care enough about American Idol to be discussing it every week with people I just figured you have to care at least a little who the winner will be when it is announced after 2 agonizing hours!
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44. "RE: Techical Problems" |
I heard about the technical problems too. At first I was like, "i think she can still win" but now I just feel horrible that the song went wrong just because of that. I really think that cost her the win. It's really unfair, but I'm just glad Diana came this far. Still, I keep thinking about what it would be like if she had won. Oh well.
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05-27-04, 02:12 PM (EST)
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I agree with you, She. I never quite got the whole Diana thing, but that's just me. She yelled most of each song. She has an okay voice when she sings. Needs more work.
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The following is quoted from the summary of the finale on Reality News Online:"The latest scandal was with Diana’s sound problems last night. Here is the story, from Diana’s own mouth and Nigel Lythgoe, American Idol’s executive producer. The Kodak Theatre stage is much bigger than the regular Idol soundstage (ironically on CBS’ lot!). Unfortunately, there are “dead spots” in the stage where the earpiece of the wireless mikes the contestants wear sort of drop out, and the singers can’t hear themselves, only the music. The very purpose of soundcheck is to give the performers a chance to find these spots so they know to avoid them. Diana found herself in a dead spot during “Don’t Cry Out Loud” and was basically scrambling to find a place where she could hear herself. Unsuccessfully. It’s a singers nightmare, and the pressure of being on a stage and singing and remembering words and all, it seems Diana forgot what she learned in the soundcheck and couldn’t find a good spot before she just decided to struggle through it." While I was unable to find where this has been said by Nigel and Diana, RNO is a very respectable news site, and I highly doubt they would lie about such a thing. It seems that the same thing could have happened to Fantasia, had she entered one of these dead spots. Here is the full text of the article for all that are curious.
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