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11-04-11, 06:40 AM (EST)
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39. "RE: S23 Survivor the social game as..."
>See, I never claimed Ozzy had
>a winning edit either. Why
>do you say I did?
>Do you just presume it
>as a way to dismiss
>my opinions on this? Yep,
>you sure do.
>
>We are going to have to
>agree to disagree on Ozzy
>"bullying" Cochran (and Ozzy did
>try to vote him out
>so I don't get that
>point; he was stymied by
>Jim on the Semhar vote
>& blindsided by him on
>the Elyse -- and furthermore,
>Ozzy was HONEST with Cochran
>about it -- it wasn't
>malicious, it was the move
>Ozzy thought was best to
>keep a strong tribe. I
>suppose Cochran should have been
>coddled for being a complete
>& abject failure at the
>challenges. Trying to say "Ozzy
>should have voted him out"
>in face of what happened
>is just misrepresenting everything that
>went down and does not
>prove Ozzy was "mean" to
>him about it).
>But I will add that characterizing
>Ozzy's show at RI as
>"bullying" when Cochran agreed to
>it before hand is just
>ridiculous.

Hi Kiki... you're not alone sweetheart <3

The only Savaii I saw being mean to Cochran, was Keith. It wasn't even that mean, he was just calling him out on the fact that he was too gutless to go to redemption island and take on a 40 y/o woman. (For the record I'm a 40 y/o woman too and I will admit - we're pretty damn tough!)

What I wondered though, was did you notice how incredibly shielded Ozzy was from all the negativity surrounding Savaii in that last episode? Ozzy's perceived heroism could have been completely lost had he been singled out as a bully. He wasn't. Cochran explicitly stated Jim and Keith - more than once. He didn't get an arrogant (winning the challenge) confessional - that was given to Jim. He was strangely hidden in the second half of the episode.

I have no doubt any confessional he made during that time would have ended up being contradicted by the edit (since they went down in flames). So why shield him from the negativity? They've certainly let him cop it in the past. I have two thoughts on why.

1. He's the next boot and they want to keep his redemption edit in tact.... see him off with some dignity. They didn't care about that in Micronesia though now did they? And... James Clement in HvV anyone? So although this is possible, it would be a generous gift that's not expected.

2. They're trying to create us an underdog or two to root for. Upolu are not popular - I'm talking about in the general public here. Argue what you want - they're far less liked than Savaii.

3. There's a chance of resolution between him and Cochran. For this to happen Ozzy would have to be seen beyond next episode - which I admit is unlikely. His tone was measured and hurt, rather than angry, in the promos for next week. That's stark contrast to the anger we've seen. He gives a hysterical laugh to Cochran after the vote. Not angry so much as perplexed.

I didn't mean this to be so long. Sorry... hope you get all the way to the end... it may be a ray of light for you.

xo


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 S23 Survivor the social game aspect...   KObrien_fan     11-03-11       
   RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Pretty_Kitty     11-03-11     1  
   RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Belle Book     11-03-11     2  
     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Scarlett O Hara     11-04-11     62  
         RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   PepeLePew13     11-04-11     63  
         RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   KObrien_fan     11-04-11     64  
             RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Belle Book     11-05-11     67  
   RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Corvis     11-03-11     3  
   RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   parathor     11-03-11     4  
     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   KObrien_fan     11-03-11     5  
         RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   parathor     11-03-11     7  
     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   PepeLePew13     11-03-11     8  
         RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   emydi     11-03-11     9  
             RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   samboohoo     11-04-11     47  
   RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Blind Freddy     11-03-11     6  
     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Brownroach     11-03-11     13  
   RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Flowerpower     11-03-11     10  
     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Brownroach     11-03-11     12  
     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   KObrien_fan     11-03-11     14  
     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Belle Book     11-03-11     18  
         RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   PepeLePew13     11-03-11     21  
             RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Belle Book     11-03-11     25  
         RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   kiki_k     11-03-11     26  
             RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Belle Book     11-03-11     27  
                 RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   kiki_k     11-03-11     29  
                     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Belle Book     11-04-11     43  
             RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   PepeLePew13     11-03-11     28  
                 RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   kiki_k     11-03-11     30  
                     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   PepeLePew13     11-03-11     31  
                     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Modesty     11-04-11     39  
                 RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Scarlett O Hara     11-04-11     65  
                     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   PepeLePew13     11-04-11     66  
             RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   SquidProQuo     11-03-11     34  
             RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Corvis     11-04-11     40  
   RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Brownroach     11-03-11     11  
     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   KObrien_fan     11-03-11     15  
         RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Brownroach     11-03-11     20  
   RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   5cats     11-03-11     16  
     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Corvis     11-03-11     17  
         RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   PepeLePew13     11-03-11     19  
             RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   5cats     11-03-11     22  
                 RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Corvis     11-03-11     23  
                     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   5cats     11-03-11     24  
                         RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   SquidProQuo     11-03-11     32  
                             RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   5cats     11-03-11     35  
                                 RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   SquidProQuo     11-04-11     36  
   RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   SquidProQuo     11-03-11     33  
     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Brownroach     11-04-11     37  
         RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   SquidProQuo     11-04-11     53  
     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   SquidProQuo     11-04-11     38  
         RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   PepeLePew13     11-04-11     41  
             RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   SquidProQuo     11-04-11     50  
                 RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Brownroach     11-04-11     52  
                     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   SquidProQuo     11-04-11     55  
                         RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Belle Book     11-04-11     57  
         RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   dabo     11-04-11     42  
             RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Corvis     11-04-11     44  
             RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Blind Freddy     11-04-11     45  
                 RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Slider     11-04-11     48  
                     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   dabo     11-04-11     49  
                         RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   SquidProQuo     11-04-11     51  
                             RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Brownroach     11-04-11     54  
                                 RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   SquidProQuo     11-04-11     56  
                                     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   dabo     11-04-11     58  
                                     RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Brownroach     11-04-11     59  
                                         RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Slider     11-04-11     60  
                                             RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   Belle Book     11-04-11     61  
   RE: S23 Survivor the social game as...   samboohoo     11-04-11     46  

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