Are you talking to me FP? I did not once say that Cochran was not to blame for the downfall of the tribe, I did say that he is not the only one. There were many contributing factors as I pointed out. My main point is that Savaii has nobody to blame but themselves.

I also made the point that yes, what Cochran did was in fact selfish and wouldn't get him any closer to winning the million. After last nights episode I didn't care for any of the Savaii and how they acted, Cochran included.

Sure, would of, could of, should of. I don't think we are the one's to throw stones at the other members of that tribe, because you are sympathetic to Cochroach for flipping. As I said, we are not in the position to throw stones, just to come away with thoughts in reaction to how it was edited. Cochroach not taking a 5/7 shot to stay in the game seemed very selfish to me when everyone of his tribemates had discussed it with him and they had reached a mutual decision. Why didn't he just tell them what he would do, when they asked....because he has no backbone, nor is he a man of his word. If you respect people that play that way, then you are a fan. I am not.

Wow. First off, I didn't throw any stones, I wasn't using derogatory tones or calling someone an idiot for their choice or lack of action. Yet I notice you freely bash Cochran with your opinions and name calling.

Second of all, where did I say that what Cochran did was right or that I support what he did or respect what he did? Nowhere. I just said that I wasn't surprised by it and that they all have themselves to blame by not having a backup plan, not paying attention etc.

As you say, I was analyzing the edited version of the show and discussing it, that's what we do around here. You are correct, we are shown a small 45 minute piece of a 2/3 day period in time, we are seeing the story the editors want us to see. So if Ozzy did actually notice Cochran's body language and really did know that he was going to flip because he was paying attention and if he really did try all means possible to get info from Christine and/or to make Edna flip, my bad, I guess I should have assumed he did all that from the edit.

The purpose of my post was to re-emphasize the need to play the social game of Survivor and discuss how it looked like Savaii didn't do that. I thought we could discuss it calmly without name calling or deciding who is a bigger fan of the game you or I. I don't see how that is relevant to the conversation.

If you kick a dog 20 times and pet him nicely twice, are you surprised when he bites your hand off the next time you reach for him?