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"S41 | Ep 5 | "The strategist of the loyalist"| East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Please place all commentary regarding tonights episode in this thread until the show has a aired in its entirety on the West Coast. And, HAVE PHUN!
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Present! michel2 10-20-21 1
   RE: Present! Flowerpower1 10-20-21 3
       Hi There! michel2 10-20-21 15
 Here we go..... Flowerpower1 10-20-21 2
 Definite Tribal Alliances michel2 10-20-21 4
 What's next.... Flowerpower1 10-20-21 5
   A Sojourn michel2 10-20-21 6
 Post IC and pre-journey Flowerpower1 10-20-21 7
 Team Xander Flowerpower1 10-20-21 8
 Dumb, Dumb Dumb michel2 10-20-21 9
 TC...... Flowerpower1 10-20-21 10
   Of Course Genie michel2 10-20-21 12
 NTOS.... Flowerpower1 10-20-21 11
   Fake Merger? michel2 10-20-21 13
       RE: Fake Merger? Flowerpower1 10-20-21 14
           RE: Fake Merger? Sheldor 10-20-21 16

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10-20-21, 07:59 PM (EST)
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1. "Present!"
Enjoy the Episode
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3. "RE: Present!"
So glad you are here, michel! Bummed you are busy this season, still fun to chew the phat!
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15. "Hi There!"
If I was doing an edit analysis I'd have Shan has my pick to win it all. Production has given us a lot of insight into her personality, her personal story, her strategy and they've even adopted her little tune to highlight her game play.

Right now, I'd even guess that Ricard will be there with her till the end: He's already given us a reason why she'd beat him => She gets all the credit for what he thinks are his moves.

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2. "Here we go....."
Ua Day 10

Sah ad company...Genie: Tribal went well, went with my instincts, last tribal I was on the outside, but now I feel very solid with the three of us....she goes to get water and finds the beware advantage idol....they have to fend for themselves, need all the tools they can have, finds it, she goes to tell Shan ad Ricard about it. you lose your power to vote until it can be turned on...terrifying...Shan says do we think that Luvu found their idol, Our vote is our voice.

Shan: I don't want Genie to open it, don't want her to have more power than me....they leave it...

Shan and Ricard talking, there is something they don't trust about her, they want to look at the packaging to see if she opened it.... Shan has the extra vote, why not open it....what is the argument to Genie if I open it...if they open it will put a fake idol in there.
Shan: it's like Pandoras box...lets do it now. Shan steals it...it is the three way, what is the phrase....didn't realize until now that broccoli is just a bunch of small trees. See a snake

Ricard: now that shan has opened it, she won't have a vote, she's giving me the extra vote...Brad says that they want to say the phrase outlouf to see if Luvu has their idol...

Ricard says she and Shan are controlling the game and Genie is a spare tire that they don' t need anymore, can leave her on the side of the road

At Luvu: Sydney the mermaid, wow, women catching fish...

Dewhawn and danny again talking about throwing the challenge

Danny: look at the other tribes, the men are leaving the game...worried about women at the switch, Naseer comes up to them and agrees we need to throw the challenge.

Danny says that Naseer ma not want to play with him but his is necessary for me if I want to play the game.

Naseer: I'm feeling great here, my tribe is including me in conversations. Danny and deshawn agree to throw the challenge, they want to work with me, thats music to my ears

Yase:

Xander and Evvie talking about staying tight

Evvie talks about it is the 3 women that have the power, but we need to make Xander feel like it's all about him

Tiff is talking to Liana, she thinks that Evvie and Xander are much closer. Tiff sends Liana to check Xansders vote. Until the merge he's worthless, he doesn't have a vote...

Evvie and Xander talk

Xansder is at the fire and tells Tiffany that he found the idol...

Xander has no power, he's at the mercy of my tribunates, I feel like Tiffany is someone in the middle and I want to cement my trust

Tiffany: he's being vrey giving, and he starts stumbling, he realizes that he has said a crazy statement, he told me he found it today, but she called him on it..
Xander: she works with kids that are delinquents, maybe she will have pity on me and work with me

Tiffany: with Xander I am on to him.

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10-20-21, 08:15 PM (EST)
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4. "Definite Tribal Alliances"
The fiorst segment lets us know clearly that each tribe has someone on the bottom:

- Erika for Blue
- Xander for Yellow
- Genie for Green

Will the episode give us a surprise ending or is one of these 3 doomed?

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5. "What's next...."
Recap: At Luvu, boys want to throw the challenge to eliminate a girl, Naseer is thrilled to be included

Yase: Xander is a dead man walking

Ua: Ricard and Shan have snowed poor Genie.

Day 11

Come on in....

Jiffy says this is the hottest spot in all of Fiji...Shan says the phrase, and then Xander says the phrase
Naseer says he's as confused as a goat on astroturf! He has it, and then we see him min confessional, his daughter made a fake idol and she made me find those idols on a daily basis, never easy , work hard to find it....They all have it, and Naseer is laughing...

Up and over nets, release key, unlock machete, to get sand bags, throw at two targets

playing for reward too, tarps....giant tarp, second tarp not as big.

Luvu sits out erika, deshawn and heather

all three people up and over the net...Tiff is sitting out for Yase

Blue over first, then untangle knots....ricard, and liana and Naseer getting the key by untangling ropes Nsaseer has it

unlock machete...Luvu in lead, and he is aiming at the target

Liana has key, and ricard has key...Ricard has sand bags, and so does Xander

Naseer got a target so only one more
Yase has a target

Naseer misses, now danny

Xander wins the challenge
Danny misses

Naseer coming back in

Richard misses and blue wins UA back to Tribal council

Shan is crying

So much for throwing the challenge

Yase has to send 2 people on a journey, pick one of the three...they pick Shan...Liana will go

Shan, I am concerned about being away from camp for so long, they will come up with a plan to blindside me, but I am excited because Liana is someone I have wanted to meet.

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6. "A Sojourn"
With Shan and Liana going on a journey together they will certainly decide to align after the merger. Ricard and Evvie will be their natural +1 but I imagine they will want to team up with Danny and Deshauwn from Blue as soon as they can.

As for the vote, the journey seems to put Shan at risk but production is borrowing her little tune for their music so Shan isn't going anywhere. Bye Bye Genie!

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7. "Post IC and pre-journey"
Shan and Liana go on the journey by boat. Day 11, back at the island with the trek to the top

Shank wants to cultivate trust...can't trust anyone but have to trust someone...they are getting along....they are going to think we will work well together as two black women, Shan tells her she has the idol. It's an advantage with 2 black women, I will have an advantage at merge....Liana says she will play this friendship down, we will work together post merge....If I am not here on day 12, Ricard can't be trusted cause he's my number one.

Shan tells her about her mom passing, they cry and hug.
Shan: When I look at the ocean, I think of my mom, she battled addiction, put in foster care, was bonded, didn't want to live anymore, a girl invited me to church and found my power. then she reconnected with her mom and they got close.

I spent days with ricard and genie and I haven't had a moment with them, and then I take a trek up a hill and connect with Liana...She wants Liana to have some power so she won't risk it, but tells Liana to risk it so she gets the extra vote....
Liana says that she has been playing an individual game but now I am not with Shan

Yase day 11

See Liana get the mail...It's an advantage....the knowledge is power in this game, allowed to ask one player, do you have an advantage or do you have an idol, only ask one player one time. They must be truthful when they answer and if they have something they have to give it to you. so valuable. Ask the right person the right question, can steal an idol or steal an advantage.
Xander is someone I don't trust this gives me the power to snuff his torch....

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8. "Team Xander"
I have to say that I am team Xander. Everyone always plotting to take him out, and everyone knows his stuff, his fault, but still kind of makes me want to root for him.

Pre TC....

Ua day 11

Ricard: has shan talked to you at all
Ricard: Shan getting chosen for the journey hurt a bit, but this story for Genie is perfect, why she needs to vote with me to take out Shan, while in reality we vote out Genie.

Genie: Ricard is very strategic but he does come off a bit distrustful
I need Ricard to talk to me to vote out Shan

Ricard, I feel like it would be so unexpected if you and I could work together....I am so at the bottom right now...Genie says me and shan, we are voting you....

Shan: heading back to camp, I know that they have been strategizing about me, she tells them all about Liana, trek up the hill, make a decision...I told her I value my vote in this game, if you risk your vote you will get the advantage....She tells them that she knows they are strategizing all afternoon

I have an idol in my pocket but I am very nervous. I need my one on one with genie, and then with Ricard

Genie tells her that he pitched me he was going to blindside you, I promise that I am with you, she trusts Genie, so she wants to get the extra vote back . She asks Ricard to give it back to her

Ricard says you are trying to get it so you can blindside me. She just wants insurance. Ricard says no insurance to keep me. Shan says you are a master strategist....Ricard says I am not voting you out. They are calling each other out....Ricard says he will give it back to you tomorrow. Shan says that ricard and I work very well together, but when he refused to give me JD's extra vote back, really tough, do I bring the strategist or the loyalist?

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9. "Dumb, Dumb Dumb"
Ricard had it in the bag but then he gives Shan a reason to vote him out. Shan asked Do I bring the Strategist or the Loyalist? Easy: Always keep the loyal player. I know I wrote Bye Bye Genie but time to reassess: Bye Bye Ricard...
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10. "TC......"
Genie says she does her best to pitch to Ricard to keep me, have to think who do you want to go into the merge with, someone who will be completely loyal to you or ....

Ricard: I feel Like I come up with the strategy, she will tell me , says that Shan is the closer of what he comes up with...

Shan wasd she wants to pitch to each of them what I want to do

Genie: they both pitch to you the other. Genie says that she is in the power position...I'm sure Ricard pitched very good reasons to vote me.
Ricard said that we have been together every single vote to Shan
Shan says Season 41, no rest, no pause, I'm listening to them and I am like, I don't know
Jiffy reminds them whoever goes home tonight has no consequences as they are not in the jury. everyone else is not up to their level because these ladies have navigated so many TC's
Ricard says he is typically calm, but now his heart is racing
Shan: what are the chances that an advantage comes into play tonight, she mentions the hail mary dice...advantages come and go but the trust carries you to the end....that's what it is for me tonight, who can I trust to the end.

Ricard is first voter

See a snake

Then genie, then shan

Vote Tally:

See Genie, then Ricard, then Shan

no one plays an advantage

Genie
Ricard
Geannie

We love you, Genie.

was good bye

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12. "Of Course Genie"
It was so evident they gave us a last minute reason to doubt it but it was Genie all along... I bit but I'm happy with the result. The Shan-Ricard showdown will be much bigger when it happens somehwere down the line
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11. "NTOS...."
Jiffy at the challenge to all of them: Everybody drop your buffs
Jiffy: You are......not exactly
Evvie: there has never been anything like this
Erika: OMG
Deshawn: It kind of busts your possibilities wide open!
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13. "Fake Merger?"
Well that's been done before...

Reshuffle of the tribes: That also has been done before.

A 12 person Tribal Council without an immunity challenge? I'll put my money on that since there are so many idols and advantages already in play. They all had multiple chances of getting protection.

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14. "RE: Fake Merger?"
A 12 person Tribal Council without an immunity challenge? I'll put my money on that since there are so many idols and advantages already in play. They all had multiple chances of getting protection.

Just like musical chairs....

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16. "RE: Fake Merger?"

Giant Yellow/Orange dome between a skinny Yellow lane next to Jeff and two wide lanes with YASE and LUVU colors and logos in the foreground.

I think probably draw buffs for two new Tribes of 6 YASE and LUVU?

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