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"Well here we go..."
IceCat 17313 desperate attention whore postings
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03-28-01, 09:11 PM (EST)
 
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LAST EDITED ON 03-28-01 AT 10:00 PM (EST)I have been laughing for the last 10 minutes... this is a hoot! Balloon Sculpter Plumber Pig Farmer Notice the product placement in the first 10 min? DI says to recruit something about 'Campbell Soup Troop mmmm good' First commercial: Campbell Soup! Edited to add this: I actually enjoyed the show...
I feel... I dunno... dirty lol
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings
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03-29-01, 11:01 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Well here we go..." |
I agree that the show started very slowly. I didn't think I would be interested in watching it. But then it picked up and I was enjoying it by the end.
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03-28-01, 10:10 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Well here we go..." |
The balloon eating bit was great.
Tops for me was the one where the drill instructor was yelling at one of the women, and she gave her name, and then he gave a confused look and walked away. Bizarre editing.
The opening sucked. This show had the problems of early survivor at the start, perhaps (what I can glean from reading summaries) - too much focus on "process" and surroundings, not enough intrigue. Looks like the producers got it straight by the end though. Having Park stand there like that was stupid, and the drill instructor taunting took the drama down several notches. Just have the instructor walk out, look them over for a while, then walk to one and dismiss him. None of this silly verbal stuff.
I also feel sort of dirty for liking this, but it's another interesting show for game theory. I think we're starting to get a feel for how the survivor game will play out; anyone want to guess? I'd guess you shouldn't stick out horribly physically (the 50 year old and Haar will have trouble), and otherwise blow with the wind. The takedown rule (not seen this ep due to Katherine) means you should avoid being in any alliances; since this is one big tribe schemers are targeted. If they're smart enough. And Meyer is clearly edited to be Richard. Whoa, long post. I'm addicted already. And i can feel the taunts starting up....
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shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings
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03-28-01, 10:56 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Well here we go..." |
>And Meyer is clearly edited
>to be Richard.
>....actually, Thomas (sp?) is gonna end up being our "richard" for this show...remember, he's the guy that took Meyer aside and told him to give the speech at breakfast, he even said that crying would be a good way to get the women on his side...and he was COMPLETELY RIGHT about that. Notice how Thomas was the only other guy (besides Myer) who voted for Park....he's obviously aligned with Myer at this stage.
I picked Meyer to be the winner during the opening credits based on the fact that after his picture was shown there was a quick shot of his foot locker with "Meyer" written on the front...no other recruit had their name shown in that fashion...but, there's no way he's gonna last. The next guy in Park's alliance to get takne out will most likely take Meyer with them.
Should we open a spoiler board for this show as well?
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03-29-01, 01:24 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Sir! Recruit IceCat Voting, Sir!" |
>So tell us, IceCat - how
>real is this??If I might also answer your question, I thought that some of it was very realistic and some wasn't. >The DIs
>to me seemed to be
>trying a little TOO hard
>to act like the drill
>sergeant from Full Metal Jacket. That drill sergeant from FMJ wasn't all that unrealistic, either (in real life, the man who played that DI on FMJ had been an officer).
>I know they yell and
>scream and all that, but
>some of the comments they
>made during the "unpacking" section
>seemed more funny to me
>than something they would actually
>do (make the guy kiss
>the picture of his wife
>goodbye, make the balloon animal
>kid make a balloon animal
>and then bite it).
Yes, this part was probably staged for the TV show. A real DI would NEVER have Balloon Boy make a balloon like that. As to the property storage they were doing, it would be doubtful that they'd be yelling at them as much at that time, since paperwork is normally involved in things like that. >Are they REALLY that way or
>did you see a lot
>of exaggeration too? I
>was wondering if they were
>actors, not real DIs. They are real DIs. For the most part they really are that way. Some yell more than others (my platoon sergeant at Airborne school was incredibly laid back for a Black Hat. Made my life easier!) That yelling and stuff absolutely happens, especially where they get right into your face and just go at it. However, the dining room scenes where they're left along to plan and make alliances and stuff (where Meyer was whispering into women's ears) would never happen at real camp. That was for TV.
*** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
"If I were perfect, I'd run for God." -- Corporal Maxwell Q. Klinger, 4077th MASH
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IceCat 17313 desperate attention whore postings
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03-30-01, 07:00 AM (EST)
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17. "Sorry About Not Answering..." |
I was on the SB Spoiler board for EP9 and then I could not access any of the boards for the rest of the evening. I think a server may have gone done (don't know for sure).In terms of the reality level of the show... Re: The comments made while going though personal kit... When I went through that process, they had all 120 of us lined up in a great big square in an aircraft hangar. Then they had us dump our suitcases out onto the concrete and they came around looking for contraband. Yeah, the comments get personal... asking guys if the woman if the picture is one of the local hookers in his home town... having a picture of one's parents is also a joy for a DI to find. And woe betide anyone who shows up with so much as an aspirin in their luggage... one guy showed up with a thing of penicillin for an ear infection that he was just clearing up... they dragged him off and questioned him for two hours about bringing drugs into the platoon. Keep in mind that this is all happening at 3:00 am after you just got off a cross-country plane ride and two hours on a a cramped bus. The whole purpose is to immediately begin the de-humanization process and to begin breaking down psychological defences. Re: All that Yelling The correct mixture of in-your-face-screaming and sinister-quiet-menacing DI Staff is important. Going at full volume all the the time only works for the first couple of days and its used to to disrupt and confuse. Eventually however, the very real requirement of having your recruits actually learn something necessitates that a more developmental approach be taken. Notice the tactic taken with the lady Pig-Farmer on the run... the run was already breaking her spirit... verbal abuse would simply have finished the job prematurely... The DI switched modes to to be supportive and get her to that finish line... not only for her development but in order to use her to foster esprit de corps in the unit as a whole. Some people have commented that they didn't like the DIs walking in behind the recruits in the final scenes and whispering behind them. Actually, this brought back the strongest memories for me from when I had my chance to instruct. My favorite tactic during drill classes and on inspections was to come up behind people and catch them unaware but be subtle and menacing ... a simple whisper of 'Private Smith... your left rear pocket is undone... please feel free to gather your thoughts and think about what you would like to say to the School Chief when you see him later on today'. You get so much more mileage out of something like that than from yelling. Virtually every military in the world has used the procedures for building cohesive fighting units for hundreds if not thousands of years. These same techniques are used by cults as well. General Comments Some things to look forward to in upcoming episodes... kit inspections where everything goes flying... long runs designed to take even the most fit to utter collapse (and then you run further)... I am personally hoping that they have to some sort of gas training... that is by far my most strongest memory of basic... Gas masks on... lead into a dimly-lit small building filled with CS gas (tear gas) jogging around until you sweat profusely... CS gas on open sweat glands is very painful... then... everyone takes their gas mask off... keeps their eyes closed and holds their breath... then one by one... the DI comes along and taps you on the shoulder... you then open your eyes- quickly state your name, rank, serial number, company, platoon, and squad... if you screw up you have to start again... once you are done your face feels likes its on fire and you can't believe how much mucus you can produce in 30 seconds... then you are allowed replace your mask, clear it and leave the area... Somehow I think they may not do the gas training thing for insurance reasons... but you never know  The primary thing I find unrealistic about the show is the fact the ultimate goal is to turn people against each other because of the nature of the game (voting off). Military basic training is designed to build the ultimate, fully-indoctrinated team player. That end product is, by neccessity, absent from this program. I hope this answers a few of your questions... Once again sorry about the delay IceCat
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jtmorgan61 91 desperate attention whore postings
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03-28-01, 11:12 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Well here we go..." |
I second that motion... how much press is this gonna generate to analyze, though?
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shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings
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03-29-01, 00:55 AM (EST)
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8. "I'll do my part!" |
>
>..it will also depend on the
>board's traffic, we'll have to
>see in the next few
>days
.....I'll do my part to help increase traffic here by writing the BEST Boot Camp summary I've ever written!
GO MEYER (finally, someone on one of these shows worth cheering for)
but Thomson will win
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings
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03-29-01, 11:33 AM (EST)
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12. "WHAT A SHOW!!!" |
I loved it! This show was so darn STUPID that it's GREAT!First, once their heads were shaved and they were in uniform, it was hard to tell who was who. Second, Meyer whispering to all those women during the lunch period... er, excuse me but where were the DIs during that time? It did seem realistic in some areas, but in others the unrealism was glaring. For example: it is kind of strange to me is that the squad leader who gets a mission done gets immunity. Wolf, the first squad leader, did a good job (in the real Army, usually the first person like that is expected to stumble a little bit). But what is to stop the group from laying down on him (or whoever the leader is), not getting it done, then voting him/her out? Part of the game, you may say (and that is true), but that is contrary to what a real military camp situation would be like, and it stuck out in my mind as being unrealistic, and therefore somewhat distracting. Although it is Survivor-style with alliances and strategy, etc., in some ways that hurts the "realism" of the show. Having the women whine about some of the others "taking control" might be good for a Survivor environment, but for a military-style show it had me laughing out loud at these idiots. I hope NONE of them win, but I guess that's not possible. I just hope the DIs get worse on them. What we saw in Ep. 1 was baby-coddling. *** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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03-29-01, 12:25 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Well here we go..." |
I feel dirty too.. I was going to skip this show, really.
After the Temptation Island let-down... I was really
gonna skip this one. Then again, there's nothing else
on Wednesdays here.. so damnit if I didn't get sucked in.And it's actually interesting! Egads! Few things
1. They should have shaved the women's heads too
2. The D.I. needs to stop with the "let's build the suspense
while I tell the dismissed to git" I think the women fell for Meyer's "crying speach" simply
because he's decent looking, seemed like an ass but was
showing a "sensative" side... oh-come-on ladies, you're
making us all look bad! Don't be so fooled! Go back home
to your mentally abusive relationships and make me a chicken
pot pie, beotch! Go pig farmer! Way to show heart! But you'd think she would
be more in shape 'rasslin' hogs all day... I for one *cannot* wait for Shake's summary. Now after writing all that, and realizing how much I paid
attention to this show, I'll go hang my head in shame.
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