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"Plot lines for season 2:"
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"Plot lines for season 2:" |
Before the finale Abrams said that casting was now being conducted for season 2. The way the information was coming out it appeared to me that he (Abrams) was looking for more than a couple of people to add to the cast. Also, Abrams led us to believe that there would be more than one person’s live being held in the balance at the end of season 1.So, what are the plot lines that can be drawn from the finale?The hatch: I think it is obvious that we are not going to find out what is in the hatch for some time to come. Nothing came out of the hatch once the door was open. Also, I think it is safe to say that Kate, Jack, Locke and Hurley are safe from whatever is in the hatch. The cave: Everyone in the cave is safe at this point in time. They are just waiting on the hatch people and the boat people. Sayid and Charlie: They made it back to the cave and appear to be safe. Charlie has a huge drug problem that will send him deep into next season. The boat peeps: Sawyer got shot and went into the water. Jin jumped in after him. Michael is in the water as well. The peeps that were on the little boat kidnapped Walt. A hand grenade of some type was tossed onto the rescue boat and was ablaze when we last saw it. The three men in the water are the people in jeopardy of losing their lives. However, the introduction of the kidnappers could replace the three characters that are currently in the water. The options for the three men in the water are: 1) They die. 2) The guys grab parts of the boat and float off until the currents turn south and they end up back on the island. 3) They get rescued. What other options are they? The others: I must say that I am very disappointed in the finale. Abrams claimed this was their who shot J.R.. Well, there are only a couple of options for what happened at sea. The people that kidnapped Walt are 1) the others 2) into some type of child slave (labor/sex) trade 3) ??? insert your thoughts here. From the writing of the entire first season I would have to say the people that kidnapped Walt are the others (and not much of a question that Abrams has led us to believe). Other survivors: This is something that I almost knew we would be led to believe in the finale or at least suggested and it wasn’t. I would be surprised that Abrams would introduce new survivors on the same island very early on in next season. Why not give us a glimpse here? With all this in mind…what are the plot lines that you think will develop from here? Estee’s black rock thread will serve as a plot line thread for the boat.
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5. "making notes" |
I'm making notes on what to look for when I rewatch it tonight. I'll double check the video game sounds. Did everyone notice that Hurley was reading the comic book with the polar bear when he finally got on the plane?
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6. "Yes" |
noticed the comic book. Also Hurley's interaction with Walt when he got on the plane led me to believe that maybe they had met briefly a day or two before and knew they were on the same plane? Or something like that. I was trying to see the game Walt was playing and could not figure it out what game. The noise the raft's rudder made also sounded like the monster. The sight of the monster made me think of that clip of the plane crash from the Pilot episode that someone posted awhile back with those black things flying around. Also did we see the pilot in this episode as was promised?
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10. "RE: Yes" |
I Tivod GMA this morning too so that I can watch the deleted scenes. Maybe the pilot is in those.
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23. "Both?" |
With DD's gameboy she can use either the rechargeable pack thingy or double A's.
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9. "RE: making notes" |
Thanks Zombie. Forgot all about that. Too much info to retain. Atleast that makes just one comic book.
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3. "RE: Plot lines for season 2:" |
Agree with Breezy about the fate of the 3.Once Danielle said that she heard they were "coming for the boy" that meant Walt and not Claire. Also agree with Vols on that I was a little disappointed about the finale, but then again it was so built up. Still a good 2 hours. I also thought that we were going to see the actual plane crash again.
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18. "RE: The Others" |
I agree totally. I was actually kinda dissapointed. I was at least expecting some answers, but I was really let down.
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13. "RE: Plot lines for season 2:" |
Here's my wild speculation:The hatch leads to a series of tunnels that go all under the island. The explosions the "monster" made looked like they were coming from underground- as if someone were in the tunnel shooting up at the castaways. There didn't appear to be any smoke or fire during these explosions, so it could be blasts of air. The tunnels could also allow someone to appear or disappear out of nowhere like Ethan did all the time. There was a ratchet noise when the "Monster" was dragging Locke. That indicates he was snared by a cable and it was reeling him in. The "Monster" also makes a noise very similar to blowing through a conch shell. This leads me to believe that the "Monster" is just a contraption used by the Others. "Pilot" could indicate the pilot of the boat that took Walt, and not the pilot of the plane. The Others are some kind of modern-day pirates that don't want the castaways to find out what they are doing. I would say drugs, but all the heroin wouldn't have been left in the cessna that crushed Boone. Unless we find out it is not good heroin. Whatever they are doing, money will be at the bottom of it. They want Walt because he will be able to "see" something for them- like into the future maybe- or to test whether or not someone buying their drugs is lying, etc. Aside from all of that, the island does have some kind of mystical allure. This is a subplot to distract us from all the easily explained technical stuff outlined above.
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15. "Season 2 - Jack vs. Locke" |
I think Season 2 is primarily about Jack vs. Locke, man of science vs. man of faith, self-determination vs. fate. Everything else is window dressing for that. I think we were shown clear glimpses of where our main castaways go when those two sides split up. Kate, despite what she told Jack about having his back, is a fate person. So is Sun. I imagine Hurley and Charlie are there as well. Sayid, on the other hand, is clearly self-determination. So are Claire and Michael. Jin handing the watch to Michael indicates to me that he feels he can determine his own destiny. I'm not sure where Sawyer falls.Window Dressing Things: I think Vincent plays some role in rescuing Walt. I think that's why, ultimately, for plot purposes he had to stay on the island. I think there are other survivors of the crash. We didn't see Michelle Rodriguez at all last night. I can't imagine they got her just to play one quick scene in a bar with Jack. I'm betting she's back next season. Perhaps when the Michael, Sawyer, and Jin get to shore, they find the tail section people? 
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19. "RE: Plot lines for season 2:" |
Do we know how old Alex was when she was taken?? Maybe she was already 2 or 3??
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20. "RE: Plot lines for season 2:" |
Danielle said she had Alex for a week. So she was a baby.I agree. I think that next season will focus on Walt getting back/ escaping. I'd like to see Vincent helping him return. I also see the divide coming Jack's reference to a "Locke problem" means that there's going to be a split. I hope that they expolore the island some more and we see the other castaways We won't know the true purpose of the hatch for a long time.
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32. "RE: Plot lines for season 2:" |
I thought the same thing...no WAY is she sixteen, unless the island does crazy things to people's aging process, too...but who knows with this place...and who knows with Danielle? She could have actually been there longer than 16 years, I suppose.
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34. "RE: Plot lines for season 2:" |
I've heard it compared to The Stand, but not to The Shining. But I guess Locke is kind of like Jack in that...nuts as could be. =)
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35. "Tina Wesson (survivor) to play Alex" |
If Tina is to play Alex I believe that was Alex on the boat throwing the molatov cocktail. How are they going to explain the age though? We are expecting Alex to be in her late teens. Clearly Tina is in her 40's and looks it.
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36. "RE: Tina Wesson (survivor) to play Alex" |
Where did you get that Tina would play Alex? I posted that the person on the boat looked like Tina but I wasn't suggesting it was her.
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06-04-05, 12:10 PM (EST)
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43. "RE: Tina Wesson (survivor) to play Alex" |
I just checked the site. Talk about going from the sublime to the ridiculous- Samuel L. Jackson and Tina Wesson. Those are two names I never expected to see in the same sentence. Tina seems like such novelty casting. I can't imagine why Abrams would have chosen her. I wonder if she contacted him and asked to appear, saying what a big fan she is. Out of curiosity, I entered "Alias" on the site, to see if it listed the cast for the first episode of next season. As of yesterday, it didn't. I also looked up "Desperate Housewives" (I know that's another producer, but I wanted to see if another show gave a future cast listing) again, nothing. So, it's hard to know if this is just fooling with the fans, or legitimate. It certainly will keep us guessing, since on one hand, it confirms Alex's presence but also because Tina is so much older than we expected Alex to be.
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06-03-05, 10:29 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: How reliable is IMD?" |
I agree...this does sound strange. Does anyone visit other message boards? What are other message boards saying. I don't visit them so I have no clue.
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45. "RE: How reliable is IMD?" |
You're right! Samuel L. Jackson's name is gone. I'm so glad we all saw it or I'd have thought it was crazy. Now they're listing a "young Kate" which must mean younger than 18, because Evangeline could certainly play the part from 17 or 18 to the present. So this may mean a really back, backstory. Or, again, just fooling with us. 
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06-04-05, 04:09 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: How reliable is IMD?" |
The IMDB is one of the most reliable sources of information available regarding TV and Movies. Their information regarding productions that have already wrapped is almost always spot on. However, they themselves say that their information regarding productions in progress is subject to change. Based on the info at IMDB, the Season 2 premiere is scheduled for Wednesday, September 21. (It's going to be another two-hour, two-episode thing.) While they wouldn't necessarily be in production yet for the premiere, they will have to be soon. (Assuming at most two months between filming and airing.) They would certainly be in the casting and contracting process. (As a side note, someone mentioned the listing for young Kate in the Season 2 premiere. If you'll scroll back up, you'll see that the actress listed is the same actress who provided the voice of young Kate in Born To Run.) I can't imagine they would list someone based solely on comments they found (or someone sent them) from a message board. Further, I can't imagine they would list anyone without having some confirmation from some source. Finally, specifically regarding Tina, if the woman on the boat was supposed to be Alex, and it was Tina, then there has already been a scene filmed with her in that role. That means that somewhere, someplace, there has to be a credit listing her with the Screen Actors Guild and there has to be a contract someplace that she signed with the production company. Therefore, if the woman on the boat was Alex, then I would be pretty confident in saying the woman was Tina W. And think about it like this - you could cast Tina Wesson in a small part, have her appear on screen without speaking, and most everyone in the world would miss it or not recognize who it was. But because of the nature of this site, and the many people here who are Survivor fanatics, it couldn't escape notice.
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06-07-05, 09:27 AM (EST)
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51. "RE: How reliable is IMD?" |
Something that stands out about Tina as Alex. IMDB has her listed as playing Alex in Genesis I. We have associated her with the woman on the boat in Exodus III. Why is she not listed as Alex on IMDB guest appearance on Exodus III?
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48. "RE: Black Smoke" |
Hi yall, sorry I've been gone so long, life has a way of upsetting the boat, lose of job, wedding plans, finding new job, computer crashings and such.Anyway, a thought to the idea of Tina Wesson being Alex. Maybe Sawyer, Jin and Mike wash up on shore of the next Survivor taping, Survivor All-Stars II. Of course this would be the first time in history you would have a crossover of shows on different networks, crossing genres (drama crossing into reality tv). "Sometimes I only say these things to make myself laugh." Me
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49. "My Take On Next Season" |
LAST EDITED ON 06-05-05 AT 06:49 PM (EST)Walt is akin to the kid in the Twilight Zone or Shinning, in what he imagines materializes. Examples: Game Boy at airport, man running thru jungle. Lost first episode, begins with Jack running thru jungle. Comic book polar bear, polar bear on island. IMO, Locke’s ability to walk is due to Walt. Walt warned them not to open the hatch. Whatever is in Walt’s imagination that is in the hatch will be in that hatch. The Other’s want Walt because they know he is special, how they know this is unclear to me at this point, however, I’m sure it has to do with the “spy” Ethan who probably reported back to the Other’s. IMO Ethan’s ability to recognize Walt’s talents would be similar to Locke’s ability to recognize Walt’s talents. Beginning episodes Locke told Walt he was special and will do special things. (Similar again to The Shinning). Black smoke: We saw black smoke moving around several times in the last episodes. I don’t believe this is some sort of entity, but rather exhaust from something mechanical. Although the smoke moved one way at first then the other way, ultimately dissolving. Danielle said she saw black smoke and then the Other’s came and took Alex. This leads me to believe again that the black smoke is exhaust from some sort of underground contraption. The “rescue” boat the Other’s drove was powered by fuel. Someone mentioned gas. I’d like to suggest coal. This would be consistent with the black smoke we’ve been seeing. Perhaps coal is a source of fuel on that island. Perhaps the hatch is an exit point to underground tunnels, where things mechanical, powered by coal can be found, perhaps also powered vehicles. But remember what I said first. Whatever Walt imagines to be in the hatch will be in the hatch, and it will be something scary! So this black smoke could now materialize to be some sort of entity, although that was not its original intent. But Walt can make it that way. Hurley too did not want the hatch opened when he saw his bad luck lottery numbers printed on the hatch. We will anticipate something nasty, but probably won’t see the payoff immediately. The goons on the powered boat. They are just goons, not the guys in charge. IMDB says the girl on the boat is Alex played by Tina Wesson. Perhaps, perhaps not. Things to consider. All the goons on the boat, including Tina were roughly the same age. If Tina is biologically 16 years of age, perhaps the goons are as well, We know that Danielle claims she was a member of a science expedition, some sort of biological disease broke out which forced her to kill all the members of her team. The disease perhaps is an aging disease. (If Walt knows of this disease, expect the black smoke to carry a disease.) If I'm right about this, expect Walt to return older. Remember a couple things. When Danielle was told her transmissions were 16 years old, she didn’t believe she had been on the island that long. I cannot remember how they determined that the transmissions were 16 years old, but perhaps there was a miscalculation? Or perhaps she said the date in the recording? Regardless, we know Danielle has a screw loose, she may or may not have been on the island for a CONTINUEOUS 16 years, she may have returned to the island in the plane crash, and has no memory of ever leaving. Her transmission for help could be a new transmission, but her time frame somewhat askew. Regardless, 16 years stranded on an island all alone should have seemed longer to her, not shorter. Both Ethan and Danielle wanted Claire’s baby. We don’t know Ethan’s motive for wanting the baby, but we know Danielle’s motive. Assume two different reasons. Claire named the baby Aaron, to you bible folk, Aaron was the brother of Moses who spoke for Moses and instigated several of the 10 plagues. To you animation fans, the Claire Bible is a device one usues to communicate with the gods. (There is little know animated series called “Slayers,” which takes place in one of the four worlds that rests on the Sea of Chaos. A bible, actually named The Claire Bible, found in the “Slayers Next” storyline, suggests that the Sea of Chaos is not a thing, but a living being, and that the four worlds in the Sea of Chaos are all part of that being. Also existing in all four worlds is a being known as the Lord of Nightmares, who make nightmares a reality.) Locke has said several times that the island they are on is a living being and in early episodes of Lost people were afraid to go to sleep because their nightmares would become a reality. Expect Aaron via Claire (ala Aaron via Moses) to do good things, which Ethan tried to stop. And so, if I'm right about this, again, expect Walt to return older, ala Moses. Michael, Sawyer, and Jin all stranded in the water 15 miles from the island. They should be able to get back to their island if nothing in the water eats them first. I imagine they will have logs they can use as a flotation device. Sawyer’s wound didn’t appear to be fatal, looked like a shoulder, but his blood may attract sharks however, so no one may survive, although I do not anticipate this.
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50. "RE: My Take On Next Season" |
Interesting catch on the Tina Wesson appearance, but she is not listed in the final episode of the season, rather she is listed for the premiere episode of season 2. The ABC Lost summary says "Another man on the boat throws something on the raft and before we know it, the whole thing explodes.", but they may be trying to mislead us.
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52. "No More Tina" |
Now Tina Wesson's name has been deleted from the IMDb site, too.
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54. "redemption challenges?" |
i was thinking that if one of the first-season themes was redemption (charlie kicking heroin, boone getting over shannon, locke getting his legs back, michael learning to be a father, etc), maybe they're setting up season 2 to have everyone's redemption challenged. there's a planeload of heroin to tempt charlie, locke's legs are failing and michael's son has been kidnapped. how will people deal with those challenges? will there be tough choices between white and black for everyone? do i recall correctly that one of the creative minds behind Lost said season 2 would be darker, and that jack might not be such a hero?
if this is indeed a running theme, i think it would solidify the concept that the producers are setting up a classic good-vs.-evil battle for the finale, whenever that is. is it a coincidence that they've been on the island 40 days and the bible says christ went into the wilderness for 40 days and nights?
one big question on redemption: what was Jack's inner fault/need for redemption? in his wedding vows, after his fiancee said jack had fixed her, he said she had fixed him. could it be that Jack, like his father, had a drinking or other problem that she helped him break and that he resumed when they split? he has carrying around a bottle on the night before his wedding, and the flight attendant on 815 gave him two little bottles of booze to go with the drink he already was knocking back.
also wonder if Locke's paralysis is the direct result of Hurley's bad luck somehow? he worked for a box company, and Hurley's lawyer mentioned -- when talking about the fatal shoe factory fire -- that he also had acquired a box factory.
i think all of these people have crossed paths at least once before the fateful flight, in more significant ways than just being in the same place at the same time (as with sawyer's presence in the australian police station).
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55. "needed Plot line for season 2:" |
What they need to explain is why Micheal took his son out on a boat ride that was either going to end in sending help or death, Just leave the kid back, and send help if you don't die.
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56. "RE: Plot lines for season 2:" |
I think that what happend was that the plane went back in time which explanes a lot of things.(According to Einstiens theary of relativity it is possible to go back in time, because as you move towards the speed of light, time slows down until you go faster than the speed of light and you go back in time. However the problam is that as you go at the spped of light the energy that makes you go that fast turns in to mass). One of the main thearies of being able to go back in time is through a black hole, because even light can't escape it. So all those black things floting around on the island are gaps of the black hole. And that is what is knocking down all those trees. The signal has not been picked up and no-one came to rescue them because they are probably 50 years back. Something has changed in time which should not have happend and the reason they all landed there is because they need to correct that part of time. The hatch could be what would take them to the future back again. The numbers which brings bad luck are something in time that needs to be ractfied Could anyone else think of something of this theary
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57. "RE: Plot lines for season 2:" |
And also that French chick could be from somewhere in the future and is some connected to the lost people, maybe a daughter of Jack
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59. "RE: Plot lines for season 2:" |
Just something to add to "The Others" speculation. I read on eonline that (I believe it was) Sawyer said in an interview that one thing we should notice is that on the others' boat, there were identical twins. Seems like he was giving us a hint that this was something to keep in mind.
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