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"The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006"
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"The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
The Real World Denver just feels strange to type but I am sure we will all get used to it. Well, here we go! I hope all the regular posters here (you all know who you are) will stick it out the entire season and I hope this brings some newbies to the site. Let's talk about all things Denver here. I am still not sure which episode I will catch 8pm,9pm or 10pm but I guess it doesn't matter...it will be the same no matter when I watch it! 
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5. "RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
Davis said some things during that argument that made me really like him! As for Stephen? I don't mind if someone has a differing viewpoint but I DO MIND when said someone isn't educated on the topic. *BOGGLE* *waves* to batts! Hope you have a great holiday!
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22. "RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
Hi Vols and Batts!!
I have to agree with both of you. I hate Stephen already and it's barely the first episode. He already tops the list of things that I hate about this season. So far, this cast is pretty disgusting with probably Davis being the only exception. It makes me actually miss Tyler, Svetty and Paula from last season. I must be losing my mind.
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26. "RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
After they have the big Gang Bang the show will get better.
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55. "RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
and u know brooke is a slut how? i just watched the first episode how is she a slut again?
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11-23-06, 02:17 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
Personally, I don't care what people do in their own bedroom. They can sleep with guys, girls, people in between, Cocker Spaniels, inanimate objects, I simply don't care. HOWEVER! I think the problem with the smaller Black guy (Stephen) who is not so cool with gays is simple: He's a Christian and Judeo-Christianity CLEARLY states that Homosexuality is wrong. He believes that gays are immoral because that's what his religion says. The problem is NOT that Stephen is wrong or close-minded or overly judgemental, the problem is that religion has a strict code of conduct that says what is moral and what is immoral, and being gay is, like it or not, immoral to Judeo-Christianity. The idea that someone can claim to be "Christian" and still be gay is, just like Stephen stated, ridiculous. The one and ONLY way you can be gay and claim to be Christian is to blatantly disregard what the Bible says. This is called MORAL RELATIVISM. I am NOT a Jewish or a Christian. I am NOT a Conservative or a Republican. I DO NOT CARE who people sleep with. But I do think that if you're going to be gay you can not say that mainstream religion is wrong just becaue it does not bend to your own version of morality. You either accept the religion for its morals or you don't. But when gay people condemn religion or religious people because they do not bend to the latest whim of society, then those people are the ones who are intollerant.
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10. "RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
I think the problem with the smaller Black guy (Stephen) who is not so cool with gays is simple: He's a Christian and Judeo-Christianity CLEARLY states that Homosexuality is wrong. He believes that gays are immoral because that's what his religion says. The problem is NOT that Stephen is wrong or close-minded or overly judgemental, the problem is that religion has a strict code of conduct that says what is moral and what is immoral, and being gay is, like it or not, immoral to Judeo-Christianity. The idea that someone can claim to be "Christian" and still be gay is, just like Stephen stated, ridiculous. The one and ONLY way you can be gay and claim to be Christian is to blatantly disregard what the Bible says. This is called MORAL RELATIVISM. Well thought out and said, however, the thing that really gets me is this point...Stephen made it very clear from the very first time the subject came up that being gay was wrong and immoral...who the hell made Stephen judge and jury? Davis' relationship with God (and who he is with in his bedroom) is none of Stephen's business...PERIOD! When Stephen said that being gay and Christian wasn't something that he thought could be said in the same sentence made me want to hurl bricks through his head. Stephen and others have no right to determine who can believe in God and their religion...it is a personal decision and relationship. Dave, did u stay in your rocker last night?
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11. "RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
hihi,always makes me sad that christians get a rep of being judgemental, i think it's well founded, but the farthest thing from what Christ would have wanted, being that he accepted the reviled of his day. "Stephen made it very clear from the very first time the subject came up that being gay was wrong and immoral...who the hell made Stephen judge and jury? Davis' relationship with God (and who he is with in his bedroom) is none of Stephen's business...PERIOD!" agreed. More to the point, it's annoying that he doesn't think one can be Christian and homosexual. To address the earlier post on that note, I wouldn't call not agreeing with every WIDE rule of dogma/official position as being a moral relativist. One can postulate that morality should be derived from a core source, like the Bible, and still have complaints with the interpretation of it via biased institutions. I went to a catholic high school, and studied phil in college, and i know there are those whod say that's being a supermarket-christian. But it seems far worse to me to not evaluate one's beliefs based on how one's logic and intuition interprets them. Furthermore, it is still rediculous for steven to call it a non-sequator to be gay and christian, especially when Davis said he put in an honest effort to try and change himself, and that he is still dating women. Even if one believes homosexuality to be wrong, most still claim acting on it is what's wrong (the catholic church for example) and not being homosexual. lastly, even if one were to concede homosexuality is wrong, one could SURELY still be a christian and be gay. Last time i checked, the vast majority, if not everyone, who is christian is has their own hang-ups/imperfections, regardless of the typology. p.s. Davis is off the charts hott ;p. loolz.
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12. "RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
The Bible also states that woman should not be allowed to preach and that widows should never remarry.....it's basically stated as a sin. The Bible also states that adultry is a sin yet Abraham slept with his wife's servant and produced a child......and yet he was and remained in God's favor....I guess it made it all ok since Sarah gave the servant to her husband for this purpose....lol.Anyway, the point is there are alot of things in the Bible that are defined as sins yet everyone does them even Christians.....would it be fair for someone to look at a widow who has remarried and call her unchristian because the Bible states (more than once) that she should not have remarried? If Stephan wants to express his views than so be it...after all this show is supposed to be the Real World. It seemed that after Davis and Stephan had a conversation on their own that they both came to an agreement: Davis would not try or want Stephan to change his beliefs and Stephan would give Davis respect as a human being. I think this is a fair and mature agreement and as long as both continue to remember that they made it who knows the possibilities that can come from it. The summary on my t.v. said that Colie hooked up with Alex...but the way I took it she seemed to be saying that they just made out and touched or something of that nature. My guess is makeout with Alex is code word for body slapping. Wow......imagine the trouble Alex is going to get himself into sleeping with two of his roommates within 24 hours. Doesn't he know that no matter what chicks say they can not have just sex with a guy they are living with!!!! From the previews there seemed to be alot of anger and fights going on. Was that Colie in the hospital bed? If so that makes me wonder more about the way her stomach looked in the previews for this show and the fact that she wore a one piece in Tyrie's commercial. Colie looks thin thus far and didn't seem to have an issue wearing a two piece. Maybe this season gets Jerry Springer with Alex knocking up Colie and Jenn. Oh and the house looks amazing....I think Mtv really outdid theirselves this time....looks awesome. Kind of ticks me off though that so much time and money goes into these houses and the people living in them are absolute slobs.
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13. "RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
>Oh and the house looks amazing....I
>think Mtv really outdid theirselves
>this time....looks awesome. Kind of
>ticks me off though that
>so much time and money
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>the people living in them
>are absolute slobs. I agree!! I love to watch the first show just to see the house because you know it's going to be amazing and it's NEVER going to look that good again once they all start living in it! I bet the decorators that do it must want to scream when they see how messy and gross it becomes! I guess at 32 I am to old to be watching this but are people in their early 20's really that all over each other horny?  Alex hooks up with two chicks in one day? Get a hose on that guy!!!
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15. "RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
>I'm with you, Eire - where
>do they find the time??
>And why must they always
>GET DRUNK the first night??
>Is this some sort of
>rule MTV lays down on
>the new cast??
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>1. Move into fabulous house
>2. Meet roommates
>3. GET SMASHED and become a
>total skank monkey
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>The house is really something, though.
>Think they'll tear it up? Hey you just wrote the script for every first season episode since Las Vegas!!! I think every cast is trying to top them. With one roommate hooking up with two others in a day, they might just give them a run for their money! The house is sooooo cool. I"m going to cry when they show the token trashed kitchen dishes piled up dirty clothes all over the floor shot in a few weeks. ANyone here know what job they will have this season? Those future clips went by in the a flash and I couldn't make it out.
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33. "RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
There were quite a few articles in the local Denver papers last week. I think they said that they will work for Outward Bound or something like that. They also said that the house was totally trashed when they left. And I know that I'm too old, because I just kept thinking what were their parents thinking when they ended up in bed and having sex (with cameras present) the first day.
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11-23-06, 04:54 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-24-06 AT 02:51 PM (EST)The summary on my t.v. said that Colie hooked up with Alex...but the way I took it she seemed to be saying that they just made out and touched or something of that nature. My guess is makeout with Alex is code word for body slapping. Just so you all know how much of a life I DON'T have...I watched the episode twice last night and in a confessional Colie said something like...we were just making out and then all of a sudden I realized we were having sex! The camera then moves back to the bedroom where it appears she is sort of rolling off top of him. I think things got a little more heated than just playing around.
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11-23-06, 04:09 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
Well, no, I fell out of my rocker and now some people probably think I'm off my rocker as well. Goodness, I better switch to a better wine before my head falls off.
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56. "RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
damn... well put Dave
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11-24-06, 02:52 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
I know how you fell flip...I thought I was over Real World and then I watch the premiere TWO FREAKIN TIMES! I need help!
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24. "RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
It's probably becasue they're drunk all the time!!
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27. "RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion 11/22/2006" |
Hey, didn't you find it odd that they showed a marathon episode run of the Las Vegas season just prior to premiering the Denver season? Should we expect a comparison to the Vegas season or will the Denver cast top them by being the most sluttiest of all the seasons? 
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32. "RE: I'm new - needed a place to vent about the show!" |
Well, I think LadyA summed these characters up fairly well. However, I'd like to throw in a few points of my own. Now, considering I'm such a positive, up-beat poster here (yeah, right), here goes:Jenn - Yup, "two faced super slut" is a good way to describe her. Unlike LadyA, Jenn makes me sick as she is a two-bit phony bent on instant gratification. She has alreadyy tried to deceive her new roommate Colie on the first night. Ugh! Colie - She might be a "naive clingy hornball," but I kind of like her. Alex - Reprehensible, low life, dishonest bum. Colie really seemed to like him and he openly spit on her. II really hate people who toy with someone else's heart. I hope he gets hit by a bus. - Brooke - We shall see.... - Davis - Confused. I don't know how anyone can sum him up as a "good Christian gay man." This is the ultimate oxymoron. The idea of Christianity is to admit you've done wrong, live the rest of your life without ever doing the sin again, and THEN you get forgiven by JC. This idea that JC will forgive you for any and all sins and its ok to continue doing them is just plain idiotic. JC accepted the lowest of society, but they had to change their ways. People today seem to think that you can do - and continue to do - any and all sins and JC will forgive you and you'll be guaranteed Heaven. Nonsense. - Tyrie - This guy is trouble - I can just feel it. - Stephen - I usually don't like religious people, but he seems like the only one who even remotely has his act together. He has a right to his opinions, and I think it is a perfect example of how intollerant gays and far-left people can be when they crap on this guy because he expresses his opinions.
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40. "RE: I'm new - needed a place to vent about the show!" |
>- Stephen - I usually don't
>like religious people, but he
>seems like the only one
>who even remotely has his
>act together. He has a
>right to his opinions, and
>I think it is a
>perfect example of how intollerant
>gays and far-left people can
>be when they crap on
>this guy because he expresses
>his opinions. Stephen has a right to have an opinion, but I find it nauseating that he feels he's entitled to shove his opinions in Davis' face. He's self righteous and intolerant. And like other people have pointed out, there's plenty of things that the Bible labels as sins, but people do it on a daily basis. People say "white lies". People marry, get divorced, and later re-marry once again. All of these things are frowned upon in the Bible, but I don't see anyone giving the fire-and-brimstone speech over these behaviors. I could go on and on, but I don' wanna get off topic. I guess the bottom line is that Stephen sucks!
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43. "RE: I'm new - needed a place to vent about the show!" |
I don't think Stephen was being mean and I don't think he was being intollerant. He was expressing the opinions on certain kinds of behavior as stated clearly by his Bible and church. Now, I'm not a church goer or a prude, and it almost makes me sick to stick up for a religious person like Stephen, but I really think it's wrong for people to come down on him so hard. His problem is that he is a moral traditionalist on a show that rarely has moral traditionalists, and he's being watched by a TV audience that has overwhelmingly spit on traditional values. Anyway,, if we're going to be mean and obnoxious to any of the new cast, I still think the ex-Raiders cheerleader and Alex have them all beat as far as giving us reasons for picking on them. I think if the gay guy wants to be gay that's his right. If Stephen is morally opposed to that lifestyle he has that right to have and express that opinion. But I really don't think anyone has the right to be a sneaky, dishonest scumbag, and that's pretty much how I feel about the cheerleader and about goo-goo eyes Alex.
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41. "re: Davis - Confused." |
Dear Dr. Laura,Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God`s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. ... End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God`s Law and how to follow them.
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1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1 . The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
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2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21 . In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
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3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
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4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can`t I own Canadians?
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5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. The passage clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
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6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10; Is it a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don`t agree. Can you settle this? Are there `degrees` of abomination?
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7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses.Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
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44. "RE: re: Davis - Confused." |
You are quoting from the 613 laws of the Old Testament as given to the Jewish people by God, the laws that clearly say "will never be taken away." You must remember, however, that Christians have conveniently been told not to follow these sacred laws of God ever since Paul said God told him in a dream that the followers of JC no longer have to do it. So, these laws might sound ridiculous, but remember, as a Christian you don't have to follow them. This is one of the BIG reasons Jews view Christianity as an absurdity not worthy of their time or respect.
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1) Why don't people change the subject title in a way that will make the threads easier to navigate? Like if you're introducing a new thought...why not be creative and allow the subject title to allude to the change of pace. For instance, in this post, went on about Stupid Stephen, then ManWhole Alex. It'd be easy to change the subject title so that folks can easily add comments on something related. 2) Are there any moderators? 3) Not so much a site for free speech? (ie - cuss words are bleeped out) 4) What did MTV do with the message boards. I want the MTV cast to see how the general public perceives them?
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11-26-06, 08:02 AM (EST)
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31. "RE: Newbie questions" |
Welcome Lady!Nazpink is right in the response but I wanted to add a couple of things. There are moderators but the most important thing to remember is to not bash other posters. Idiots on these shows are fair game to bash but don't let it flow over to others here. It might help is you read the forums guidelines. I look forward to discussing the season with you!
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35. "I'm here!! Sorry I'm late." |
Wow.....I can't tell if I'm going to HATE this season or if I'll love this season. SO far...I'm hating it. What is the big deal about this pimp man slut? Is it really that hard to control your sexual desires...on THE FIRST NIGHT IN THE HOUSE? Seriously. What would your grandmother think? Sure...just f*ck both of your roommates. That's cool. And these girls.....what are they thinking?? If this is at all what the entire season is going to be like, I might quit watching. Whores. All of 'em. Agh. I really must get getting old because I was totally disgusted with these people. As I was watching the show I kept thinking....'wow...and most of these people have gone to college'. So...Lady - are the MTV message boards not up and running anymore? I wonder if that means we'll have more posters around here!?  I've been away from my computer all weekend...I'm sure I'll catch another one of the million reruns and I'll have even more comments about these fools.
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45. "Possible Spoiler RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion " |
LAST EDITED ON 11-28-06 AT 02:42 AM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 11-28-06 AT 02:40 AM (EST) First of all I have watched practically all the seasons of The Real World from the beginning. I started losing interest with Las Vegas. (I met Damon Furberg, the casting associate from Bunim-Murray who was one of the people responsible for the Las Vegas cast. He regretted some of the choices.) Is it just me or have the recent casts been less ambitious and less impressive than the earlier seasons? Compare the first season, New York, or the San Francisco cast to any from the last couple of years. Is there a doctor or an activist or an aspiring actor in any recent show? No, they all seem more interested in hooking up & drinking & causing drama than in doing something worthwhile with their lives.
But I digress.
I live in Denver, so I am paying more attention to this season. I am acquainted with a bouncer who worked at the bar Monarck who hooked up with Jenn. She's kind of skanky. And he is even worse. He was hoping to get his big break, he said he has always wanted to be on TV and wanted to be, his words, "America's Sweetheart" (WTF???). He cheated on his girlfriend of 9 years to accomplish his lifelong goals. What a jack***! Needless to say, his girlfriend dumped him. She is definitely much better off.
Anyway, I am looking forward to see how they, or if they, like being in Denver. It's a great city.
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11-28-06, 10:15 AM (EST)
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47. "RE: Possible Spoiler RE: The Real World Denver Episode 1 Discussion " |
I agree. Do you think that, maybe, the problem is this:The Real World started out as a show about young adults in the real, young adult world. Now it is different. The show is now about over grown teenagers who are now (usually) old enough to legally drink. The "real world" the show exhibits is NOT about being a young adult, but shows the life and mentality of teenagers who never grew up and out of the teenage society thing. So, us older viewers get frustrated because the show has gotten away from its original idea and has regressed into being a show about people who are still emotionally young and behave that way. Us older viewers are mad because we used to see people growing up before our eyes because they were in an adult, grown up environment, and they were learning and growing through the experience. Now it is different. They choose "adults" who are really just immature, thoughtless kids, and they rarely if ever show any signs of growing up because MTV purposely puts them in an artificial environment that does not force them to grow up. The house they live in is too lavish, they are subsidized too much, they "jobs" they're given are BS, and they are allowed to lounge and sleep late and drink alot and party too much because their environment does not, in any way, resemble the real world. They can blow off their "work" assignments and not get fired, they can lie to their "employers" without penalty, and they can be useless on the "job" in ways that us "real people" could never get away with on our real jobs. The show really is just an expose on how bad and dysfunctional teenage society has become.
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11-28-06, 06:53 PM (EST)
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48. "interview with jenn--what would YOU ask her?" |
I'm a journalist interviewing Jenn tomorrow and would love to know what you would ask her if you had the chance. Email me your questions at laurenDOTgardATeastbayexpress.com.
Thanks!
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11-30-06, 09:35 AM (EST)
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52. "RE: interview with jenn--what would YOU ask her?" |
OMG....LMAO! However....I still think that Alex should get some jokes put on him about his whorish behavior......
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