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"The Iron Chef"
SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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07-27-02, 07:01 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: The Iron Chef" |
Are there Iron Chef fans here? Why, I've only mentioned Iron Chef in every summary I've done, and even posted a thresd showing Evil Bert's attempt to foist mayhem on the show!Also, I'm still making plans to kidnap George Tirebiter for a Road Trip to Morimoto's restaurant in Philly. Everyone else would be invited, too. Yes, we can chat.
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bacon 2824 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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07-27-02, 11:07 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: The Iron Chef" |
The Iron Chef makes you hungry? If anything this show makes me sick. I have to admit it's a guilty pleasure. How can anyone not enjoy the horrible dubbing, and giggling female judges? Still, i wouldn't taste test that food if you paid me. I'd rather eat at Rax than eat Eel Balls.
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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07-28-02, 08:29 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: The Iron Chef" |
Ohta, the floor commentator, always interrupts with "Fujii-san!" (or whatever the main announcer's name is). He does this to tell the ingredients being used so that the commentators can talk about it.Ohta also gets interviews with guests from time to time. I like the Japanese culture that flows through this program, from the competition angle of it to the Japanese and Chinese (real Chinese) ingredients used, etc. Chairman Kaga overacting? No! Say it ain't so! ![](http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/Images/devil.gif)
"Pappy didn't get voted off, he got stoned!" -- dabo*** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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07-28-02, 12:40 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: The Iron Chef" |
I suspect it's a little of both. Chairman Kaga was an actor in Japan (and a good one, from what I understand). I think he got some financial help for the Gourmet Academy, since they really go all out on food quality, flying Morimoto in from the USA and Kobe in from Milan, etc. Commentator Dr. Hattori's Nutrition College provides some help, like the assistant chefs, also.Kandagawa, whose "Ohta faction" (no relation to floor reporter Ohta) is out for Morimoto, is probably involved, and is at least a good friend of the producer.
"Pappy didn't get voted off, he got stoned!" -- dabo*** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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survivorscott 2191 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator"
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08-25-02, 04:59 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: The Iron Chef" |
Why is it that everyone gets dubbed into english EXCEPT Chairman Kaaga? He is always subtitled.
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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07-30-02, 05:55 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: The Iron Chef" |
The rival cooking school is known as the "Ohta Faction" after their leader, a guy named (you guessed it) Ohta. No relation to the Floor Announcer Ohta, so we've been told. Kandagawa-san is their mentor and main cheerleader. As I said in another post, Kandagawa-san is an outstanding chef in his own right and a good friend of the show's producers. He's been involved with it almost forever.The Ohta Faction has been challenging Morimoto's neo-Japanese, international style of cooking, saying he's strayed from true Japanese cooking. Yes, they've brought a drum in on occasion, probably to mask the fact that Morimoto has been beating them like a drum. Morimoto is imaginative, but his dishes obviously taste good, as the judges seem to inhale them.
"Pappy didn't get voted off, he got stoned!" -- dabo*** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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07-29-02, 12:47 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: The Iron Chef" |
and tonight's special ingredient FISH!yummy!
hum - what a nice big birdie
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-01-02, 06:25 AM (EST)
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23. "Favorite Contestant" |
This started as a reply to MistoFleas, but I figured I better get it out here before it gets indented too far...Who is your favorite contestant (challenger)? Mine was the lady who does the Japanese TV cooking show. I can't remember her name (no coffee yet this morning), but she came into Kitchen Stadium all happy and talking. When Chairman Kaga asked which Iron Chef she wanted to challenge, she said "It doesn't matter." Taken aback, the Chairman said "You don't care which one?" and she replied "No, they're all Iron Chefs!". So she let Chairman Kaga select one (and he chose Chen). During the battle, she just talked away to the camera (do you think she was going to use the footage for her own show?) and pounded out SEVEN good dishes in the hour. And they were good dishes, too. She won fairly handily. I figured if they ever have an "Iron Chef HomeCooking", they should get her to be it... I'd love watching her cook again.
"Pappy didn't get voted off, he got stoned!" -- dabo*** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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08-01-02, 04:44 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Bobby Flay" |
I got icky knots in my tummy watching the Iron Chef in New York battle. Bobby Flay (who I've never really liked anyway) was being such an ass and a crybaby. Now okay, there was a problem with the set up and he kept getting shocked by when he touched the stove (water had gotten spilled). They put down rubber mat and he was fine. Then at the end of the battle when he stood up on the counter...what a jerk! I was happy that the Zagat people agreed that Morimoto won that battle soundly.Then..when Bobby went to Japan to compete again, there was a problem with the ovens on Bobby's side (they weren't heating properly), so of course he was whining again. Personally I think he won because Kaga didn't want to lose his American audience. I remember the woman that Dawg is talking about. She made her famous roast and potatoes and won everyones hearts (and tummy's). Later her son came on as a challenger. She was in the VIP box shouting out encouragement and instructions. At the last minute, her son decided to make her roast and potates and she kept yelling "stop, you don't know what you're doing!!". It was hysterical and great. Love me that Iron Chef!
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-02-02, 12:11 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Bobby Flay" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-02-02 AT 12:12 PM (EST)I was gonna respond to Dawg's question earlier w/ Bobby Flay...but I could not remember his last name and Dawg is so gawd-darn knowledgeable on his Iron Chef trivia, that I felt somewhat intimidated!!! (j/k, Dawg) *groan* I get in trouble for things like this, ya know! (the intimidation factor) But just to reply to the various Flay/Morimoto rematch questions: 1) I was rooting for Morimoto against Flay, I wish Flay would stop whining. 2) The sumo wrestler was Akebono, an American, and the first non-Japanese ever to win the title of Yokozuna, or Grand Champion, of sumo. At first, the Japanese vilified him for being an American, but he overcame and then became something of a celebrity. He's retired, but something of a celebrity still. In the Nagano Winter Olympics, sumo wrestlers (and little kids) escorted athletes into the stadium on opening day. Akebono was very proud and happy (and maybe just a little showing-up to the Japanese crowd) to lead the American contingent, waving a small American flag and carrying the little kid. 3) Flay won the second contest handily, but there were loud grumblings that the fix was in. One of the FIVE judges, the American Consulate General (I think, he was a U.S. diplomatic official, fer sure), said that the tasters could hardly taste Morimoto's food after eating Flay's spicy stuff. Akebono was also a judge, and talked to Flay in English, so there was a rapport there that went beyond food. But I'm not worried about that, Flay DID do well in the second contest, and it was fun to watch. 4) In the first battle, Flay was a little over the top with the cutting board. The second time, he threw the cutting board to his fans and just stood on the counter. I think he was trying to make something of a joke out of it, but, not realizing Japanese culture, it didn't go over. I also think Morimoto was making a lot of it for the camera just to increase the drama, especially the second time. (Don't get me wrong, Morimoto WAS ticked off the first time in NYC). 5) As to something not working in Kitchen Stadium, I got the feeling Flay was just setting up an excuse in case he lost. I think the heaters worked fine, just not as quickly as American heaters. Patience, Bobby, patience!!! 6) I never saw the battle with the lady chef's son (or didn't realize I was seeing it). But I hope they'll show it soon so I can watch it. 7) They showed the Canadian chef episode recently. I think he was a French-style chef, but they kept trying to interject Canada into it, as if Canadian style cooking was some completely different genre. Nothing against Canada, mind you, but French-style chefs are generally the same, from Sakai-san to this Canadian, to Joel Robuchon (sp?), and injecting Canada into it just didn't seem right, ifyouknowwhutImean.
"Pappy didn't get voted off, he got stoned!" -- dabo*** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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08-02-02, 01:28 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Bobby Flay" |
"They showed the Canadian chef episode recently. I think he was a French-style chef, but they kept trying to interject Canada into it, as if Canadian style cooking was some completely different genre." Number 1, I can't believe you, Dawg, of all people do not know the name of the Canadian chef! (RL is *shocked* to learn that Dawg is actually HUMAN! ah, gasp) Doesn't pouring maple syrup over your finished creations count as an example of the fine culinary cuisine in Canada? Wasn't this also the episode where the chef built some strange tower that required engineers to help construct! Iron Chef is on tonight...but alas it's the rerun of Pike Conger. Bummer. I'm ready for a new season to begin! Bang the gong, the heat is on!
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-04-02, 10:42 AM (EST)
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34. "RE: Japanese Girl's Festival!" |
Yes, the Girls Festival was fun. I had not seen this episode.Ready for our Japanese history lesson? Kamakura, where Kondo the challenger was from, is an important and ancient city in Japan. In Clavelle's Shogun, he called Toranaga's territory the "Kwanto". The real name for the "Kwanto" was simply the "Kanto", the Eight Provinces. Kamakura was the capital city of the Kanto for many years, until the Tokugawa Shogunate moved to a fishing village called Edo (now a little fishing village called "Tokyo"). Kamakura is an important crossroads and junction, with roads going out in every direction. Also, the Japanese capital used to be Kyoto, where the Emperor and Family stayed for hundreds of years. Again, the Tokugawa Shogunate intervened, bringing the Person of the Emperor to Edo for "safekeeping". Thus Edo (now Tokyo) became the national capital.
"Pappy didn't get voted off, he got stoned!" -- dabo*** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Red Lady 2010 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator"
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08-02-02, 08:48 PM (EST)
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31. "Book Quote" |
I am reading "Shogun" inbetween posting on these boards, and I came across a relevant passage to our Iron Chef discussion.Captain Blackthorne is an Englishman who sailed to Japan in the 1600's. He has just introduced the concept of eating meat to his non-meat eating Japanese hosts who recoil in horror at the thought. "Your food's just as strange, he wanted to say. What about yesterday, the raw squid--white, slimy, almost tasteless chewy meat with nothing but soya sauce to wash it down? Or the chopped octopus tentacles, again raw, with cold rice and seaweed? How about fresh jellyfish with yellow-brown, souped tofu--fermented beancurds--that looked like a bowl of dog puke? Oh yes, served beautifully in a fragile, attractive bowl, but still looking like puke! Yes, by God, enough to make any man sick!" Domo!
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-03-02, 02:01 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Book Quote" |
I've read Shogun by James Clavelle so many times that I halfway know it by heart. I've gotten a lot of good lines from there ("I'd be a worm wriggling in the dust."), and it's a fairly accurate portrayal of Japan in the 1500-1600's. It's also based (loosely) on reality in that Toranaga was in reality Tokugawa Iesume (forgive me when I missspell these names), who won the Battle of Sekigahara (a real battle in a real town of Sekigahara in the year 1600 A.D.) and became the first of the Tokugawa Shogunate, which lasted until the mid-1850s. IMVHO, Sekigahara was one of the 10 most important battles fought on the face of the Earth (among the others: The Battle of Tours, where Charlemagne turned back the Moors, The D-Day Invasion of 6 June 1944, Saratoga in the American Revolution (this caused the French to enter the war on the American side), The Armada, and The Second Carthagenian War). There was a real English sailor named (I think) William Adams, who was the model for the novel's John Blackthorne. Some names and sequences were changed to protect the guilty, but his story is almost real: Adams was made a samurai by Tokagawa, not for saving his life, but so Adams could marry a Japanese samurai lady. You can read all this on the Internet, btw., so don't feel intimidated by my knowledge. ![](http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/Images/happy.gif) As to the food, the Japanese indeed waste very little food, eating many vegetables that we don't see much of, including soy and some beans. Also, they use all parts of the fish (especially things like the liver and roe), which was (and is) their main meat diet. They did (and do) not limit themselves to scaly fish, either, eating shark, octopus and squid, not to mention seaweed, etc. They do eat their food cooked far less (i.e. more raw) than most Americans find palatable. They use strong spices and pickling flavors on their foods, also. It's good, but you have to get used to it. Sake has a flavor that (IMHO) must become an acquired taste, as well. "Pappy didn't get voted off, he got stoned!" -- dabo*** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Red Lady 2010 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator"
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08-23-02, 11:01 PM (EST)
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37. "Bang the gong..the heat is on!" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-23-02 AT 11:21 PM (EST)After watching the exciting tie battle between Sommelier Corby v. Chinese Iron Chef Chen...I just had to ^bump^ this thread! I know that Survivin'Dawg is interested in renewing this thread (because we have actually "hijacked" his own BB3 threads to discuss The Iron Chef!!) And, of course, Misto..*smooch*, I know you also are an IC devotee! But after Bacon's "Getting to Know You" thread, I now also know that JiZZy is a huge fan, too. Knowing that ZZ's torso pic size is of growing (shrinking?) debate...I thought this thread would prove a perfect venue for ZZ to "post" IC menus or IC results on his torso!! (Pefectly acceptable, according to "the rules"). ZZ's washboard chest will make an excellent backdrop (*oops*). Now..on with the asparagus tie-battle. The judges TIED yet again with the Chairman finally conceding both Corby and Chen the winners! A 1st on the Iron Chef! (Kinda like the last Winter Olympics without the judging scandal!)
Regards, HungryRedLady
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-23-02, 11:24 PM (EST)
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38. "France battles" |
Thanks for reviving this thresd, Red Lady! ![](http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/Images/happy.gif) Some serious highway robbery was committed in France, and the victims were Sakai-san and Ishinabe-san (is that his name?). Those French judges (Joel Robuchon and someone other culinary personage) really robbed Sakai in the second contest, though he clearly was better. You could just FEEL the tension between the Japanese judges and the French judges as they commented on the various items. Well, I just got back from a golf-until-dark session, so I haven't reviewed tonight's (Friday, 8/23) Iron Chef tape. It should be an excellent battle, however.
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." -- Thomas PaineContradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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08-24-02, 10:38 AM (EST)
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39. "RE: France battles" |
I watched those last Sunday, and as soon as the first one was over I knew Sakai wouldn't have a chance in the second one, no matter what they did. It was so annoying during the judging when the women pointed out the French guy's seafood was tough and the French judges said, "Well, that just shows his talent." Hello? Part of the contest was picking your own ingredients.I learned an important lesson, though...do NOT try to cook while watching Iron Chef. Even though I had no reason to hurry, I was rushing around my kitchen, flinging pots and acting like I was under a time limit. Mr. Bebo did enjoy the commentary during dinner, though..."I asked the Iron Chef, and she says the ingredients in the sauce are ketchup, honey, soy sauce, and a touch of hot sauce for some zing." Evil, rude, snotty, and proud of it!
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08-24-02, 02:27 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: The Iron Chef" |
Yes! I love Iron Chef "Fakui-San!" "Go ahead." "The ingredients in this dish are fried uni, bean paste and diced bamboo shoots."When Frau and I are cooking in the kitchen together, I say to her "Fakui-San" -- ha ha we have such a good time pretending to be Iron Chefs. One time we had a "garlic battle" and came up with some amazing dishes of our own. One thing I can't stomach though is some of the ingredients they choose. The other night I saw them hacking up live turtles. They were all bloody with gaping holes in their necks and stomachs. I had to change the channel it was so gross. Oh, and regarding the Flay battle. Yes, the guy is a true ass-holo-mio, but in the second battle he did some amazing things with lobster and avacado with the basil sauce drizzled on top. I've determined to try and make that some day. Love me som Iron Chef!!! IronScribe
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08-25-02, 03:55 AM (EST)
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42. "Iron Chef v. BB3" |
Man, what a dilemma I faced this evening! I was napping during the 7:00 showing of Iron Chef but wasn't concerned about that because I knew I could catch the 10:00 repeat showing.Imagine my dilemma then when I realized that due to the NFL pre-season game between the Raiders & 49ers, BB3 would be airing at (yep, you guessed it) 10:00pm! What should a RealityTV Whore to do? What would an Iron Chef devotee decide? I finally let my stomach be the judge. I still felt a little hungry after a lite dinner, so I knew if I watched the Iron Chef battle I would surely give in to my stomach's urges! So I made the only logical choice..BB3..which was guaranteed to make me lose my appetite! (BTW...it did not fail me!) Regards,
![](http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/User_files/3d4a5b35117748a1.gif) P.S. Still waiting for ZZ's torso menu debut.
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survivorscott 2191 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator"
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08-25-02, 04:58 PM (EST)
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45. "who would you like to see on the show" |
I would like to see emeril go up against the iron chefs. Or even our very own Keith Famie
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08-25-02, 06:04 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: who would you like to see on the show" |
Very cool logo, there, survivorscott.I wouldn't care to see Emeril... any Iron Chef would make lightwork of him. Keith Famie might be interesting. Is Keith that good? "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." -- Thomas PaineContradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-26-02, 09:47 AM (EST)
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52. "RE: who would you like to see on the show" |
>Keith Famie might be interesting. >Is Keith that good? Not if rice is the theme ingredient... ...and you just KNOW it would be! ![](http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/Images/happy.gif) And Jerri would be one of the judges... SurvivinDawg -- Charter member of the Bebo Fan Club.Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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