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"S11 PTB Week 4 Results/Week 5 Entry Thread"
KObrien_fan 8360 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-07-05, 07:44 AM (EST)
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"S11 PTB Week 4 Results/Week 5 Entry Thread" |
Well, well, well. Only 8 people survived last nights episode: Dreamer Believer, Cuon, Das Mole, Libra Rising, John Mc, MJewel, Rebel Crown, and Tribephyl With 8 left, my dilemma is as follows: Do I allow players that have been booted the past 2 weeks to re-enter the game but at a cost of an additional 10 points and 5 picks? or Do I allow players that have been booted the past 2 weeks to re-enter the game and as a bonus to the 8 that remain add 10 picks to each of their alotments as a "settlement" or Do I just play the game out with the 8 that remain? I need your help guys, what do you think? If you don't feel comfortable posting your reply in this thread, please send me your ideas via PM.
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kingfish 20752 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-07-05, 10:18 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: S11 PTB Week 4 Results/Week 5 Entry Thread" |
I think option 2 is reasonable. However, I wouldn't object to letting the decision be that of the legally remaining dudes and dudettes. We could have carping post to allow the legal 8 to vent at the end of the game if one of them didn't ultimately prevail.I assume that the legal 8 wouldn't object to strongly, competing with only 8 for the remaining 11 (10?) weeks would be kinda boring, and the way spoiling this season is going, those 8 might be 0 next week. Or the next. This is an extraordinary season, with bamboozleing being the theme of the S11, Guat. season. Calls for extraordinary rules. I assume ABC is in the same situation to a lesser degree. But he has Rule #10...to be made up later. Suggestion: add a Rule #10 (or what ever is next) of your own, as a basis for whatever unilateral rules changes become necessary. Another option; Well, the survivor tradition is for the bigger blocs to prevail at voting time, and, maybe for the first time ever(?) the losing bloc is bigger than the winning bloc..... Or, we could just face up to the fact that we lost.....Nahh, whining is more fun.
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Wallflower66 2446 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model"
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10-07-05, 10:39 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: S11 PTB Week 4 Results/Week 5 Entry Thread" |
Hey, I'd still like to be in the game, so I'd prefer either option #1 or #2, if it's OK with the majority of the 8 still in. I don't want to ruffle any feathers.
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JohnMc 2679 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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10-07-05, 11:10 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: S11 PTB Week 4 Results/Week 5 Entry Thread" |
Here's how I see it.If this was the game from previous seasons, there would have been no immunities. So even I would have been eliminated. I reap the reward of a Yaxha IC victory, so I consider myself greatful to be alive. The true champs are Das, Rebel, dreamer, and the illustrious Tribe. The rest of us are survivors who are greatful for our fate. So I think I go back to what Scarlett says. Option #2 and just call this an extension of the non-elimination weeks. I would suggest 2 things, though. 1. After this, no more extensions of non-elimination. I mean, this will be week 5, and there are only 14 survivors left. 2. Those who still remain should be in a separate echelon. We should still be allowed to battle things out for our own top spot. I mean, we did manage to make it through, either by correctly picking the bootee or by getting immunity. Just my thoughts.
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dreamerbeliever 3380 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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10-07-05, 02:30 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: S11 PTB Week 4 Results/Week 5 Entry Thread" |
As one of the Magnificent Eight, I'll give some thoughts. Must admit that I'm a little torn, on one hand I want as many people to have fun and be in the game for as long as possible, but on the other hand my competitive juices wants option #3. While having immunity last week kept me in the game, making only one bootee pick was strategic in nature. Had I not had immunity, my entry would have looked more like this week. To get Brooke right, I had to use 7 picks and a fourth of my allotment. Do like JohnMC #2 thought ... 2. Those who still remain should be in a separate echelon. We should still be allowed to battle things out for our own top spot. I mean, we did manage to make it through, either by correctly picking the bootee or by getting immunity. We should be allowed to battle it out for the top dawg spot and being the overall red/black ink champions. Which would mean that no matter the scores, for anyone in the lower echelon to be crowned a red or black ink champ, all of the Mag8 playing for either +/- would have to be knocked off our pedestals. To add to John’s thoughts, we should be allowed to have our own bootee pass into the lower echelon at any point during the game. Once a lower doesn’t make a bootee pick, they’re out for good. Scar's idea is basically the same as the high/low echelon split. If you do go with the split KO, then there should be no bonus. The top eight are still competing against one another. Plus I wouldn't mind seeing my old tribe-mates back in the game to compete with me for the challenges. Awfully lonely over here on Nakum beach all by myself
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kingfish 20752 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-07-05, 04:10 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: S11 PTB Week 4 Results/Week 5 Entry Thread" |
I just can't seem to leave well enough alone, so I'll jump in again I'll just back up M (martha?) Jewels second idea. No money is involved, just enjoyment and pride. Which are substantial enough. But we aren't really bound by the abstract idea of what the technically most fair thing to do would be, and in order to be fun it has to be viable, and in order to be fun and viable, there should be players. Unless we have a reentry option, the game will be over in a few weeks, Or down to one or two anyway, where would be the fun in that? I just know KOB has some cool challenges up her sleeve (on LL it would be tucked in her red Bikini, alas), and how can you have fun in her challenges unless there are a reasonable number of competitors? OTOH, this is a time consuming (as well as very well done) game for KOB, and the only real unfairness would be if this caused her to have to devote even more of her time (along with moving and new job) to it. Therefore Jewel's (Mary?) second option with a extra immunity (they are golden this year) seems to be the best compromise. To me. Give the Amazing eight their due; a "PTB Genius", or " PTB Amazing 8, or a "Done Good" or a "Winner of first half of PTB" sig, and carry on. More can compete, and the amazing 8 can compete for the second PTB prize (FOr me, without immunities, this is all academic, I'm probably gone in a week or two anyway. This year is hard.).
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MJewel 1951 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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10-07-05, 04:44 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: S11 PTB Week 4 Results/Week 5 Entry Thread" |
Martha...hmmmmmmmm...no and Mary...uhhhhhhhhhhh...nope <grinning at Kingfish>.
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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-07-05, 04:30 PM (EST)
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21. "Wow!!!" |
And I thought my ABC snuffer was gonna get the major workout this week. Sheesh.Only eight players left, huh? Where is the dilemma? I say just let the game continue on as normal. But with only the remaining 8 still eligible for the prize. (I would feel the same way even if I wasn't one of the 8, I promise.) If you feel like re-introducing the losing players back into the game then it should come with the disclaimer that it be for entertainment purposes only and none of them should be considered for the top prize. Frankly, if anyone started this game (or any of the fanatics games) without knowing the potential outcome if they made some wrong choices then they are fooling themselves. Bootation is part and parcel of the PTB. By giving the booted players a free chance to re-enter (with no serious penalty) it chips away at the integrity of the PTB and in a way effects it's overall enjoyment for seasons to come. Of course I will stand by any decision you make KO. I will also do what I can to help you figure this out in a more amicable way. Till then, I'll order more beds (and Rum) for LoserLodge.
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kircon 3323 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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10-07-05, 04:57 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: S11 PTB Week 4 Results/Week 5 Entry Thread" |
I would love to keep playing the game. But rule are rules. Kingfish touched on the idea that there could be 0 players in the near future. At that point We all could re-enter and begin the game from scratch. I'll be out of town for the weekend, if we need to ask to get back in I'm asking now. If not I guess I will bring you my torch. *one lone teardrop fall down my cheek* I'll check what's going on Sun night. KO thanks for all your hard work on this game. It will always be "My First".
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cadfile 176 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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10-07-05, 07:01 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: S11 PTB Week 4 Results/Week 5 Entry Thread" |
I sure found out how hard it is to figure out the early going pre-merge without any hints and a lack of consensus among people.If I could get back in PTB I would because it's fun for me and adds abit to my enjoyment of the show. I fully respect any decision made anyway the host decides. I don't think, should us losers be allowed back, we should be allowed to win this game. That wouldn't bother me a bit as I really don't play to win, I try to best EPMB each week. My hats off to the 4 who made it this far without any help. The full 8 deserve the win. I would hope that I could be allowed to play along for kicks and giggles but would understand if that didn't happen.
I use to be a photon in the wavelength continuum, but now I wear pants and talk.
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MJewel 1951 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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10-07-05, 11:44 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: S11 PTB Week 4 Results/Week 5 Entry Thread" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-07-05 AT 11:48 PM (EST) Just a thought or two . When the game started everyone had a choice which level to play at. Some players chose to play at level one and thus got to compete in immunities. The immunities won or lost had to be worked at and earned...thus I don't really feel anyone had help in that respect. The week before last Nakum earned immunity and made their picks strategically. This week Yaxha earned immunity and also made picks strategically. Had Yaxha not earned immunity I know my bootee list would have looked very different and I would have had to use up a number of picks. Level one started the game with only 16 picks so they have to be used wisely for sure. If not it is off to LL which I might add has been an enjoyable experience thus far ...I have heard a lot of new "music" and and have uhhhhhhhh partaken in some activities <grin>. I have really enjoyed playing the immunities especially the sentence one and I spent a considerable amount of time on that one as a lot of us did. I think I went cross-eyed <grin> but I had a lot of fun. Nakum did a really great job on that one! <Bowing to tribe Nakum here>. I think that this season of Survivor has been tough and the shake-up of the tribes really had everyone wondering but I think it is better this way. Everyone now has to try and play this game by using our minds and logic and not spoilers so much. It makes it a lot more interesting when everything is not all layed out. Anyways, (the long way around to my point is) KO...whatever you decide to do is fine with me. I have greatly enjoyed playing your game, have enjoyed competing in the immunities and also getting the chance to play your game along with all of these other great people. That's what it is all really about anyway...playing the game with some spirit of competition and having a lot of fun along the way. I hope that you always have this game and host it because you are a great host and definitely a creative and fair one . If I end up in LL from your game then I say...bring on more gin and tonics and I definitely need my pink feather boa <grin>.
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Rebel Crown 1413 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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10-08-05, 02:40 AM (EST)
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27. "RE: S11 PTB Week 4 Results/Week 5 Entry Thread" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-08-05 AT 05:14 AM (EST)Being one of the "Exalted Eight" (kinda like the Sovereign Six ), my first instinct was to be selfish because this game is tough, but I agree with the idea of letting everyone back in, with the 8 getting a Bootee Pass for future use and/or more picks. My idea is to have the 8 of us as the leaders, with the re-instated ones in a second tier, starting at 9. Red inkers would be listed as last (first in their minds, lol). Then, when and if the 8 get booted for the first time, be absorbed into the second tier until the 8 have all been eliminated. The leaderboard would then be balanced again. But I'll go along with whatever is decided, KO. I just didn't want to lose the status of still being alive in this game. I had Brooke on my list for a reason!
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