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"Jonny Fairplay- Genius"
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Goooey_Alley |
11-27-03 |
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Draco Malfoy |
11-27-03 |
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Kellar |
11-27-03 |
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Goooey_Alley |
11-27-03 |
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Desperate Move? Not! |
psydergrl |
12-06-03 |
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AugustGirl |
11-27-03 |
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Draco Malfoy |
11-27-03 |
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AugustGirl |
11-27-03 |
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Draco Malfoy |
11-27-03 |
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AugustGirl |
11-28-03 |
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bell83 |
11-27-03 |
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AugustGirl |
11-28-03 |
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ryan_from_canada |
11-29-03 |
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RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius |
tvgeek401 |
12-01-03 |
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I agree |
anotherkim |
11-27-03 |
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Oscirus |
11-27-03 |
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Also agree -- reluctantly. |
Estee |
11-27-03 |
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He didn't say "on her grave" |
Ra_8secs |
11-28-03 |
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Estee |
11-28-03 |
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KeithFan |
11-29-03 |
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I, for one, |
cqvenus |
12-05-03 |
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BrassFan |
11-27-03 |
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Evolving ethics |
Fast Eddie |
11-27-03 |
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Spanky68 |
11-27-03 |
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Fast Eddie |
11-28-03 |
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tvgeek401 |
11-29-03 |
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bell83 |
11-30-03 |
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SurvivinSally810 |
11-30-03 |
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tvgeek401 |
12-01-03 |
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To settle this thing... |
Goooey_Alley |
12-01-03 |
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tvgeek401 |
12-02-03 |
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Goooey_Alley |
12-03-03 |
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sisyphus |
11-27-03 |
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BrassFan |
11-27-03 |
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donnamossfan |
11-27-03 |
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strid333 |
11-27-03 |
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PhoenixMons |
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frisky |
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ValleyGirl |
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J Slice |
11-27-03 |
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echogirl |
11-27-03 |
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Robotext |
11-28-03 |
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Poindexter |
11-28-03 |
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bell83 |
11-29-03 |
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IreneMcGee |
11-29-03 |
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KeithFan |
11-29-03 |
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IreneMcGee |
11-29-03 |
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Tenn_Princess |
11-29-03 |
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TeamJoisey |
11-29-03 |
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Draco Malfoy |
12-03-03 |
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daltonsangel |
11-29-03 |
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tvgeek401 |
12-01-03 |
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12-01-03 |
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mcjesq |
12-01-03 |
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Grandma is rolling over in her, uh,... |
RebelYell |
12-05-03 |
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MTW1961 |
12-05-03 |
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RebelYell |
12-05-03 |
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BrassFan |
12-05-03 |
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MTW1961 |
12-05-03 |
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IreneMcGee |
12-05-03 |
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pandorella |
12-06-03 |
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RebelYell |
12-07-03 |
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BigBerg |
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BigBerg |
12-09-03 |
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RebelYell |
12-12-03 |
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Without Jon... |
Goooey_Alley |
12-03-03 |
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i guess i was WAY too slow on this |
cqvenus |
12-05-03 |
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Ra_8secs |
12-05-03 |
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MTW1961 |
12-05-03 |
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KObrien_fan |
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Ra_8secs |
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luv_bug |
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RebelYell |
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luv_bug |
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JohnMc |
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Oscirus |
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psydergrl 29 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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12-06-03, 10:24 PM (EST)
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66. "Desperate Move? Not!" |
I disagree with this. He was in no danger the week he told the lie and continues control the happenings of the game (notice how no one can make a decision without talking to Monsiuer Fairplay?) I can't say I would have done the same thing, but I can say I appreciate his 'do anything to win attitude'. He is beginning to grow on me. peace-psydergrl
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AugustGirl 11534 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-28-03, 01:01 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
LOL! I have no objections to sympathy nookie either! But with Jonny Fairplay, the nookie provider would have had to been extremely drunk, or extremely dead.... or both.
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bell83 134 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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11-27-03, 11:19 PM (EST)
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Who's to say he didn't get nookie that night. jon and his "buddy" seemed a little too close for me!
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11-28-03, 01:02 PM (EST)
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LMAO! Good one bell!
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hmmmm.... good one.... with Jon, anything's possible as his latest coup has told me
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13. "Also agree -- reluctantly." |
I think that in the pure gameplay context, it was an amazing move, especially given how far in advance it was planned -- but I almost hate myself for admitting it. It's kind of like saying that you admire General Rommel's work in North Africa. You can certainly admire the strategy and execution, but at the end of the day, you're still giving grudging nods to someone who was fighting for the Axis. >I'm just surprised no one has called him on it in >the game. What did grandma die of? Was she sick >when he left? If so, why would he have expected >her to come to see him? Why would he have >picked his grandmother to participate in a challenge with him? I had that filed that under 'off-camera'. 'She was fine when I left, but she's old, and they always ask you to fill in the name of a back-up visitor in case the first one can't make it...' I'm sure _someone_ asked -- probably Lil -- but it didn't make the show. No idea how much of this he'd thought out coming into the game, but he must have figured someone would ask questions. And yet, he didn't realize that he'd need a better actor on the other end. Or at least a prompt box. 'Line!' >I just have to laugh because he really didn't get squat out of it. The whole loved-one-visits-the-camp is the lamest reward ever. I don't think he even got the emotional boost and spiritual renewal that, say, Christa or Sandra would have gotten out of it. But for the game, it was good timing. They're pretty far along: the time to reveal some (faked) human emotion and a (counterfeit) caring soul was ASAP. Since the loved one challenge always comes after the first jury selection, the 'I'm a decent person, really' card had to be played at the first possible moment. And he did get one thing out of it. An oath. 'I swear on my grandmother's grave.' Very sincere. Nothing about her actually having to be in it at the time... >I still can't wait for him to be voted off. >He looks like a rat. Y'think? I had him down for a Peruvian guinea pig.
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11-27-03, 10:17 PM (EST)
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>I'm just surprised no one has called him on it in >the game. What did grandma die of? Was she sick >when he left? If so, why would he have expected >her to come to see him? Why would he have >picked his grandmother to participate in a challenge >with him? The story stinks and he's just lucky that >they are too nice to call him on it. They did call him on it. On the CBS website, the Fantasy Game clip of the week, they show Jon and his buddy talking about it, and he says something to the extent of "I loved it when they asked me what she was dying of, and I hadn't thought of anything." So, he had set it up before by mentioning that his grandmother was dying. >I just have to laugh because he really didn't get squat >out of it. The whole loved-one-visits-the-camp is the >lamest reward ever.
I wouldn't count that chicken yet...It did appear to help him convince Sandra to vote out Tijuana when he played the "I swear on my grandmother's grave" card....and the tribe really seemed to buy into his "I'm a changed man" bit at TC....so, he might get more mileage out of this than we know.. Monte
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tvgeek401 1615 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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11-29-03, 02:41 PM (EST)
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LAST EDITED ON 12-01-03 AT 08:09 PM (EST)My personal opinion is that Sandra's throwing of the fish was worse. Jon's ploy may have been unethical, but he was just playing the game. His lying about his grandmother doesn't directly hurt the other tribe members, but deliberately destroying the tribe's food damages the tribe. I give Jon kudos for outwitting the other tribe members. He can bring this back and use it for his advantage later on in the game. Who knows, this may change the way survivor is played in the future. ![](http://community2.realitytvworld.com/boards/User_files/3fb9b8cd1561b9cb.jpg) *J Slice is my hero!*
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bell83 134 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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11-30-03, 00:04 AM (EST)
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42. "RE: Evolving ethics" |
Are you kidding me!? 1st of all she says she accidently knocked it over 2nd of all she never blamed Christa, she just allowed the others to. John flat out lied about his grandma dying! His plan was calculated and just evil. (brilliant but still evil). if the idiots had never voted Rupert off they wouldn't have to worry about the fish in the first place!!!!
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46. "RE: Evolving ethics" |
Regardless of whether sandra deliberately threw away the tribes fish or "accidentally tripped over a tree stump", the loss of the fish still hurt the tribe.Why does everyone think the tribe members were idiots for voting off Rupert? They're in the game to win a million dollars, not make new friends or let the best person win, and they saw Rupert as the strongest competitor and voted him off, not because they hate him or they want to starve, but because he was their biggest threat. Calling them idiots is, in fact, quite opposite from the truth. I love Rupert as much as the next guy, but the tribe needed to realize, which they did, that they would not win with him still in the game. I still stand by my original position that deliberately hurting the tribe is worse than lying to win a million dollars. ![](http://community2.realitytvworld.com/boards/User_files/3fb9b8cd1561b9cb.jpg) *J Slice is my hero!*
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Goooey_Alley 425 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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49. "To settle this thing..." |
Jon's grandma lie is a good strategy in the game. Sandra's fish accident is rather a careless move. Both of them have their good reasons, Jon and Sandra to avoid being voted out earlier. Sandra didn't blame Christa but instead allowed others to jump in conclusion. Sandra's action did hurt the tribe but, like Sandra's POV, they don't deserve Rupert's fish (like Burton's "let Rupert be weak.") In the first place, they already planned for the chores--someone will fetch water, someone will gather woods, and other will catch the fish or find their foods. If it's Burton who caught the fish then Sandra deliberately (accidentally) threw them, then she sabotaged the tribe. It is like "you bought something, but it is the others who benefitted from that thing" situation.As a whole, Jon's strategy is good (I think it is like "More Evil Version" of Amazon Rob C's strategy)... but it will be Jon's downside when it comes to the real world.
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Goooey_Alley 425 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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12-03-03, 09:18 AM (EST)
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52. "RE: To settle this thing..." |
But the point is... Why they have to make a big deal out of it when in fact they had an aquarium out there? The shelter thing can't be done alone. It's a different thing.
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11-27-03, 10:21 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
>Although I think the "Lie" was genius and low I think >it will have consequences for future shows....If in future >shows their is a family reward i don't think they >will have the family/friends talk with the players >before the challenge.....or they might just cancel >the family reward outright........ Why would they do that? MB and company LOVED what happened last night. I'm sure they got huge ratings...and all the preshow hype that's been going on for weeks about this.... >On the other hand I think sandra was the only one >that was skeptical..hence her first move in the >challenge...can you imagine when she finds out,,,,,,,,I >would like to be a fly on that wall.... A lot of folks have speculated that Jon and Sandra have some type of supersecret alliance going on....If that's the case, how much did she cement her "I hate Jon" routine with sending his friend out last night? If they had an alliance, and he told her about his plan...wouldn't that make for great work by both of them...She works his friend toward the water, and no one would EVER believe they had something in the works...
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11-27-03, 01:24 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
I think Jonny Fairplay is despicable!
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PhoenixMons 4696 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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11-27-03, 04:28 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
I'm so torn! On the one hand I want to hate Jon for telling THIS sort of lie (I think as an adult, you just don't lie about things like that, but maybe that's just me), but he has always played the game with well-thought out strategy and he seems to be extremely good at (for some odd reason seeing as how they all KNOW he's a creep!?!?) manipulating the rest of the tribe to fall into his gameplan. The planning beforehand is what is so brilliant about this lie. I mean I'm willing to give credit where credit is due even though I think he could have probably chosen a better but equally effective lie...maybe not though...I mean he got a helluva lot of sympathy after the fact and people almost forgot he was Jonny Fairplay and couldn't be trusted. I still have my suspicions that Jon and Sandra have their secret alliance, but we'll have to wait and see. But for the time being, I will reluctantly have to say that Jonny Fairplay is playing one HECK of a game that, were he not so obviously a slimeball, I would have quite a bit of respect for in terms of all-time survivors (one of the best strategists, undoubtedly). But, no matter what we think of him on a personal level, it WAS a brilliant move and he had the tribe eating out of hte palms of his hands after the fact right up until TC.![](http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/User_files/3faf790a49462cab.jpg) The 80s are back, like totally! 2003 winner of the coveted "Punky"
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ValleyGirl 377 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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11-27-03, 06:13 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
Morally reprehensible=Yes, Great Strategic move=Yes. Will Jon win=No. Reminds me of my first boyfriend, who lied to my face saying he couldn't take me to a high school dance 'cause his mother was sick and he had to stay home to look after her. Turned out he went to another dance with a local 'ho' and got lucky, needless to say, he never got the time of day from me after that. Jon may have won some ground in the short term but he'll be a loser in the End.
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22. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
My friend and I were laughing and cheering at the lie.Jon = slimiest genius ever. I tip my hat to you, Jonny Fairplay. That was one of the coolest and most awful things I've ever seen. You are worthy of playing Survivor. Outwit and Outplay... yow! Afraid of pancakes since 1996
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Robotext 66 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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11-28-03, 01:40 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
I would like to know where this "fairplay" nickname came from? Is it one of those opposite meaning nicknames (like if it was Jonny "Notgay")?
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11-28-03, 05:14 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
All I know is that:Burton--For accusing Christa from out of the blue Sandra--For letting Christa unfairly twist in the wind Jon--For selling his grandma's soul for a nickel are all going to He-- in a handbasket, whether it's in the game, or longterm. Period. Poins
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bell83 134 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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11-29-03, 00:57 AM (EST)
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32. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
I was wondering if it was a gay thing too! Where did he come up with that? is it on some cartoon or something?
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11-29-03, 12:11 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-29-03 AT 12:13 PM (EST)Although I give him kudos for an original way to manipulate the game, this could seriously hurt the integrity of the shows to come. How the heck are we now supposed to believe ANYTHING about these survivors? Part of watching the show is indentifying and feeling with/for the cast. What if Richard Hatch had grabbed the check, then admitted he was not gay, gained a hundred pounds just to make us think he was a slob, didn't have a son, and was really a multi-millionaire who didn't need the money, and never cared about the game? What if Jenna had grabbed the check, then said, hey guess what, I used to be a man and my mother is right over there? Burnett is going to have to figure out a way to not allow this outside the game manipulation to ever occur again. He's already taken us down an ambivalent route with the returning cast-offs. If he allows a survivor to trump the show like this again, I think it will be the end. I for one wish they had some kind of rules against this. Or, if they do something like it, they risk the producers revealing the lie. I thought Osten's apparent lack of genuine interest in the game was enough of a bait and switch. What's next? Christy's not really deaf, she was just using it as a strategy.
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Tenn_Princess 5 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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11-29-03, 06:56 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
Jon is not gay, trust me.
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11-29-03, 10:22 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
>Jon is not gay, trust me. >Welcome to the boards. I don't think Jon's sexual preference matters to any of us. It's his handling of truth, and his game strategy, that we find interesting. That said, by declaring he is not gay, you imply that you have had a sexual relationship with him. If that is the case, perhaps you'd like to tell us more about Jonny Fairplay. Dish the dirt! These reality show contestants need a reality check!
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11-29-03, 11:07 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
FAIRPLAY IS A GENIUS!!!!
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mcjesq 37 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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12-01-03, 04:55 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
Who ever said that to outwit or outplay you had to be truthful? I can't stand JFairplay, but I agree that was the most ingenius move ever! I'm still excited about it several days later! Someone mentioned earlier that the show may have to come up with something other than the family challenge or having contact with outsiders--I say good! they should have to keep raising the bar to keep the ratings--I am starting to get tired of the same challenges--make the producers work! Come up with something original! The fact that they added the twist with the outcasts was fabulous--they need to do more of that!
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RebelYell 152 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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12-05-03, 11:54 AM (EST)
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54. "Grandma is rolling over in her, uh, recliner" |
I agree with the folks who think Jon's Grandmother ploy was an innovative move, but I can't call it a stroke of genius.At best, he has assured himself of second place with all of his maneuvering. And second place is No. 1 loser. He couldn't beat anybody head to head. He might get some votes, but I would question the character of anybody who would vote for him. He's a cad. He has poor character. Shame of it is, he might still get the second-place money. So genius? Not even close. Survivor winners are either the good people or the good players. Jonny Fairplay doesn't measure up to either one. Jonny, basically, cannot win. Burton and Lil really don't deserve to win -- they were voted off already. Sandra is hampered by losing her best allies and, unless she takes charge and pits the girls against the boys (something that the girls had a chance to do long ago) she's gone, too. That leaves Darrah.
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MTW1961 4029 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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12-05-03, 12:36 PM (EST)
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55. "RE: Grandma is rolling over in her, uh, recliner" |
I must disagree with you. I'm no Johnny fairplay fan, but I think he may be engineering the most brilliant victory ever on Survivor. Not only has HE backstabbed everyone, but he has also caused others to backstab to the point where they all are expecting to be stabbed in the back. Also, there are several players he matches up well against in the final two - Darrah, Lill, and maybe even Burton.He can make a solid case to the jury against Darrah by claiming, truthfully, that he engineered the game, played it to the fullest, and she merely went along for the ride. She was always "next to go". He can make the same claim against Lill, adding that she doesn't deserve to win because she's an outcast. He can make the outcast claim against Burton. Right now, I think the survivors - as much as they despise Jon - are starting to respect and understand his gameplay. Although they despise him personally, I think they despise the idea of outcasts returning to the game more. Mark
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RebelYell 152 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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12-05-03, 01:14 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: Grandma is rolling over in her, uh, recliner" |
I don't know if they respect him, but they shouldn't. And everybody sitting on the sidelines right now does know that they are there because of JF ... The next person off, unless it's JF himself, is going to feel the same way. After the next episode, JF has four of five votes against him no matter who he comes up against. And it only gets worse from here for him ... He's going to play that grandmother card to death (no pun intended) and if he doesn't already have four votes against him, the next person off will be that fourth vote.This will be easier than voting for president. You just vote against the guy you DON'T want to win. How any of them can want JF to win is plausible, I guess, but still a stretch.
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BrassFan 326 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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12-05-03, 03:13 PM (EST)
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59. "RE: Grandma is rolling over in her, uh, recliner" |
You never know how people in Survivor will vote..Remember Christy and her 'wicked stepsisters' speech last season? She turned around and voted for Jenna, who did nothing at all, less than a week later. Tijuana didn't seem all too upset about Jon lying. She said she didn't like it, but hey, he used it to get further in the game than she was..so he obviously outplayed her. Believe it or not, there are people who will see that Jon outplayed them, and outwitted them, and will vote for him to win, irregardless of the fact that he engineered their demise...or, more accurately because he engineered their demise.
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MTW1961 4029 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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12-05-03, 03:47 PM (EST)
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61. "RE: Grandma is rolling over in her, uh, recliner" |
BrassFan, that is EXACTLY my point. I think THIS CAST in particular may be more willing to reward good game play rather than hold personal grudges.
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IreneMcGee 166 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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12-05-03, 04:27 PM (EST)
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63. "RE: Grandma is rolling over in her, uh, recliner" |
I agree with you. As much as i hate what JF is doing, I'd rather see him win than Lil or Burton. They should not even be in this game.>I must disagree with you. >I'm no Johnny fairplay fan, >but I think he may >be engineering the most brilliant >victory ever on Survivor. >Not only has HE backstabbed >everyone, but he has also >caused others to backstab to >the point where they all >are expecting to be stabbed >in the back. Also, >there are several players he >matches up well against in >the final two - Darrah, >Lill, and maybe even Burton. > > >He can make a solid case >to the jury against Darrah >by claiming, truthfully, that he >engineered the game, played it >to the fullest, and she >merely went along for the >ride. She was always >"next to go". He >can make the same claim >against Lill, adding that she >doesn't deserve to win because >she's an outcast. He >can make the outcast claim >against Burton. > >Right now, I think the survivors >- as much as they >despise Jon - are starting >to respect and understand his >gameplay. Although they despise >him personally, I think they >despise the idea of outcasts >returning to the game more. > > >Mark
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pandorella 82 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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12-06-03, 01:06 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: Grandma is rolling over in her, uh, recliner" |
Respect his game plan? i think Jon has brought Survivor to an all time new low. a brillant victory? how sad that deceit and manipulation is rewarded when as a supposed survivor Jon has not won any challenges or immunity or contributed like Rupe or Burton in providing the food to keep them going. Jon is almost as lame as Lil.But Lil is just a puppet and Jon is using everyone and that you may say is the genius of it. but i can't stand him and his tactics. i hope he and Lil do NOT make it to the final two! the next cast of survivors will stoop to even lower levels to win and how far will they go if someone like Jon wins and they see it worked...more devious ways will pop up to win and that's what we've come to. calling it a brillant victory.ugh.why don't they just release some criminals from prison and put them on the next survivor and see what genius tactics they come up with if there are no limits to what they can do to win? i hope Darrah makes it to the end. that would be a brillant victory.
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BigBerg 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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12-09-03, 10:19 PM (EST)
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69. "RE: Grandma is rolling over in her, uh, recliner" |
Jon is the best! Sandra is downright boring in comparison.
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KObrien_fan 8360 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-05-03, 10:09 PM (EST)
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64. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
I think he is a genius and very good at the game of survivor. Most people are bashing him for telling a lie. He didn't ever say his grandmother was dead, not that we saw from the editing anyway. Thunder Dan said that grandmother died, Johnny when asked by Jeff said that she wasn't around. They all just assumed from his "crying" that she was dead, Lill even said, "his gradmother just died".Also, he keeps saying over and over again that he swears on his grandmother, but he hasn't said "I swear on grandma's grave". He has said other things to mislead them into believing she is dead, plus he has said that he is a changed man, etc. Now I know that misleading somebody is virtually the same as lying, but with that being said, I still think the whole thing is genius. It's one chance for him to go out there and win the million dollars, and he isn't going to sit around and hope it happens, he is doing everything that he can do to win, even if that means misleading and lying. In the context of the GAME I don't think it's evil. What really is the difference between a little lie and a big lie? They have all lied at one point or another if not repeatedly. To me, there is no difference, except that his took alot of thought and pre-planning. ![](http://users.igl.net/rewolf399/ko.jpg)
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luv_bug 5 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-03-04, 02:20 AM (EST)
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72. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
I am sorry that you think that lieing about someone dieing is being a genius. I think that Jonny Fairplay was a sick guy to begin with. I can't stand him and hope that I will never see him on the air again... He deserves to live with little grandma and take care of her when she gets so old she can take care of herself maybe he needs to kiss her ##### while he is cleaning it... Even though Gandma thought it was funny I still think that it was sick......
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luv_bug 5 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-04-04, 06:21 PM (EST)
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75. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
what are you talking about my 1998 IRS check....
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Oscirus 1596 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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05-03-04, 10:54 AM (EST)
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74. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
you must really hate jfp to dig that deep just to blast someone who hasn't been talked about in months.
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luv_bug 5 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-04-04, 06:29 PM (EST)
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76. "RE: Jonny Fairplay- Genius" |
I just got on here and was reading all of this praise for Jonny Fairplay and I don't think that people should be praising him.. I just don't thank that people need to be saying how smart he was because he really wasn't.... He is out of the game isn't he...
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