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"Discussion of 12/08 episode"
volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-08-04, 07:48 PM (EST)
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"Discussion of 12/08 episode" |
So, we find out another island secret tonight. This one looks like it could be a great one.
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12-08-04, 09:03 PM (EST)
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1. "Did we?" |
Find out a secret that is?Had to love the mention of the "red shirts"... Things we learned? Sawyer is on meds? Jack turned in his father Kate spent time in the woods with her father Locke worked at a box factory-metaphor? Walt has "two" dads. Boone runs a wedding business Hurley came in 17th in backgammon tournament Probably knowing this show the Hurley fact is the most important. ![](http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/User_files/41a1019d0212e991.gif) Holiday Gift from Surveysez Bounce courtesy of IceCat
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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-08-04, 09:39 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Did we?" |
I wondered this myself...however, after reading my TV Guide again, I think it means that the stranded finds out another island secret. The secret was that Ethan was after Claire (the baby actually) only...which verifies what we speculated all along.So, in a round about way we got verification but the stranded learned that Ethan dive a carp about Charlie.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-08-04, 10:01 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Did we?" |
>Sawyer is on meds? I'm pretty sure the meds comment was related to medication that Sawyer is taking due to his still-healing stab wound, nothing more.
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Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-09-04, 09:54 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: another hideout?" |
It's been there long enough to get covered by dirt and a little plant life, so it's not part of their plane... Way too much to hope that it's the kidnapper's bolt-hole.
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12-09-04, 11:55 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: Did we?" |
I agree with the Hurley fact being important that he was 17th in a backgammon tournament but I think the most important fact we heard regarding Hurley last night was when he told Walt that in his real life he is concidered a warrior too. He said this when Michael was heading south to look for Charlie and Claire.Some other important information we learned last night: 1. Walt is very, very lucky, to lucky if you ask me. He even said his father said he was the luckiest person he ever met. Did anyone else notice every time he rolled the dice he got exactly what he wanted. 2. Ethan was not alone when he took Claire and Charlie. Charlie said "they" took Claire. 3. The new island secret looks like it is going to be a metal bunker for trunk.
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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-09-04, 06:49 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Did we?" |
Charlie said "they" took Claire.I thought Charlie said "they only wanted Claire". Meaning that is why he was hanged in the jungle.
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blacknwhitedog 6532 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-09-04, 09:51 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Discussion of 12/08 episode" |
So Jack's secret is that he turned in his dad for operating on a patient while drunk- which ruined his dad's career and life.Everyone seems to really trust Locke, he seems pretty creepy to me. Locke doesn't seem to like Michael. When Walt and Hurley play backgammon, it seems that Walt is very lucky- too lucky for normal? His step-dad told him he was the luckiest person he ever met- what's up with that? Sawyer didn't know that Sayid found someone and that there are other people on the island besides the passangers. Before Jack finds Charlie, he hears a loud noise and a scream. Does Ethan have something to do with the island monster? Locke and Boone find something metal in the ground- is it a lock box? is it an underground bunker? Charlie is resucitated by Jack after being nearly dead. He seems to be in shock. He doesn't want to talk. What does Ethan want with Claire and her baby? ABC http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/episodes/2004-05/11.html
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12-09-04, 10:32 AM (EST)
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10. "Charlie..." |
>Charlie is resucitated by Jack after being nearly dead. He seems to be in shock. He doesn't want to talk. What does Ethan want with Claire and her baby?I'm wondering if Charlie has been infected with the sickness that the French woman talked about. He just didn't seem right to me. And how did Ethan get Charlie hung up like that on his own. There has to be somebody else working with him, if you ask me. ![](http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/User_files/3ebda472785fc947.gif)
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12-09-04, 11:37 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: Charlie..." |
"How does Ethan get Charlie hung up there on his own...."There is someone else working with him (Ethan). When Charlie was back at the camp and Jack was asking him questions he (Charlie) replied that "they" only wanted Claire. He said it twice and Jack repeated it. Someone else was with Ethan when he took Claire and Charlie and they only wanted Claire. I also think Charlie isn't sick, he is just in shock from almost dieing and losing Claire.
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Swami 5885 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-09-04, 10:51 AM (EST)
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12. "Revelations lead me to plot theory" |
There's an old, old SciFi movie called Forbidden Planet (I think) where hellacious things occasionally happen because a robot is able to cause this one girl's wishes to come true. (I have only seen this years ago on TV, so I may have the exact details wrong--sorry)Anyway, people seem to get what they really wish for a lot. Walt was way beyond lucky in the backgammon game. Charlie looked truly dead to me, his hand was shown blue, but Jack could bring him back to life (unlike the nameless woman who died when his dad operated while impaired). Locke can call down the rain! Maybe the island can make wishes come true due to some invention by the French woman's scientists. The metal bunkers and stuff are part of the mechanism that produces this effect. The people who lived through the plane crash were the ones who really wanted to live at the moment of the crash & were not resigned to their fate. Or they may have been grievously wounded but lived just long enough to wish that they would survive whereas the others were all killed on impact. Locke can walk after the crash because his vision of himself is as a whole person. The French woman's team went "mad" or whatever she said when they realized what they had created and either came up with some world-domination plan or started offing each-other in a fight over control of the device, or just because they could. This also explains the strange appearance of polar bears (somebody thought of them as scary) and also the unseen "monster in the dark". It is unseen because it is just formless fear in an unknown and scary time. Now, if there is anyone left on the island (Ethan) who understands how the wish-granting thing works--then it makes sense that he would want a tabula rasa baby (Claire's unborn), thinking he could totally control this child's knowledge as it grew, and use the child as a "weapon" for lack of a better word. The French woman seems pretty much immune to the wish-granting effect. Maybe others are also? Including Ethan who needs a tabula rasa child to fully control his own device? The Marshall died because Claire really wanted him gone so she could be "free" and her wish was more powerful than his. Could one of "the other's" have brought down the plane as it passed over the island, just by wishing it to happen?? Hey! It's a universal theory. What do you think?
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blacknwhitedog 6532 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-09-04, 02:20 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Revelations lead me to plot theory" |
very good Swami- I like this theory!I thought something was up when Walt was "lucky" with the dice
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shuiheart 95 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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12-09-04, 07:18 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Revelations lead me to plot theory" |
Wow, Swami! What a great idea. I had noticed that Walt wished for things and got them, including his dog returning, but I thought it was specific to him. I never thought about the others. Maybe Locke and his rain "prediction" is an indication that he knows this little secret. Maybe he is using this knowledge to become the "provider."
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PhoenixMons 4696 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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12-10-04, 12:57 PM (EST)
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29. "Yes" |
He said something along the lines of that - he was talking to Charlie about giving up his drugs so that he could get his guitar...I do think this (Swami's idea) is an option (one of the more plausible of the various theories floating around), but something is telling me that this is what we're supposed to think and therefore it's not going to pan out that way. Just a gut feeling, I guess. I think we're going to learn a lot after the Michael/Walt episode (ep. 14) because I think Walt is the key - Walt is the only child on the island, he's been shown time and time again to get what he asks for on the spot ("lucky") - possibly something about Walt has something to do with Claire's baby... There are just so many possibilities! I think once we figure out what that steel 'box' is, we'll learn a lot more about the island, maybe even something about why these people are all there.
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Swami 5885 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-12-04, 08:56 AM (EST)
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32. "RE: Revelations lead me to plot theory" |
Mostly, according to their back stories, these folks don't have a lot to look forward to back home. Maybe they're not wishing really hard--certainly Locke isn't, or Walt either.Maybe there is a time/distance thing? They can't influence anything that is not within the "frequency" of the island. (Maybe this is Dan Rather's mystery frequency. That could explain a lot too.) Swami
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12-12-04, 11:44 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Revelations lead me to plot theory" |
Wow. I gotta say, I think most of you are waaay over-thinking things Obviously you're enjoying doing so, though, so who am I to rag on it? Personally, I've always been a very active viewer. the past few months have been rough, though, and I find myself just sort of...watching and accepting. But I thought I'd throw in my two pesos. I don't think the island is some sort of military or scientific experiment. I don't think there is going to be any scientific explanation at all. Rather, I see this all playing out in a more spiritual way. No wish machines, experiments gone wrong, and etc. I think some things ARE what they seem, such as what Locke used to be-- a man with a simple life and big dreams. No ex-CIA as someone down the line suggested. Now that I think about it, I have to say-- over thinking these things seems like it could ruin it, to me. This seems to be the kind of show that you take as it is given. I am not saying you don't think about what you see, but I'd personally be careful of going too far beyond what is presented. The clues are given in a very careful, very methodical way. Still, like I said, you guys are obviously having a ball, and that's cool :}. I just wanted to offer my take on it, if that made sense.![](http://www.geocities.com/amea_gari/41866afc240184ae.jpg) A J Slice siggy
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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-13-04, 00:17 AM (EST)
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34. "RE: Revelations lead me to plot theory" |
Wow. I gotta say, I think most of you are waaay over-thinking things That is what we do here! I don't have a problem with thinking things through...I lvoe to hear all the possibilities! Why does someone always have to rain on the parade?
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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-09-04, 06:56 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Discussion of 12/08 episode" |
Sawyer didn't know that Sayid found someone and that there are other people on the island besides the passangers.Neither did anyone else. If you go back and look, lastnight's episode took place the second the show left off last week. Therefore, the only peeps that knew there were others on the island were the peeps around Jack when he was working with Syid (sp?). This was also the same time Hurley blurted out that Ethan was the one that was there but not on the flight. I don't think anyone on the beach knew of the other people except Kate.
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AugustGirl 11534 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-09-04, 10:00 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Discussion of 12/08 episode" |
I don't know about anyone else, but I just might die before they air the next new episode. -- apparently I have issues with patience
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-09-04, 11:05 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: Discussion of 12/08 episode" |
>I don't know about anyone else, >but I just might die >before they air the next >new episode. February 9, 2005... start counting down the days
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12-09-04, 12:46 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Discussion of 12/08 episode" |
TWO MONTHS!! Arrgh, that hurts! I was hoping it would come back in January after ABC is done with all their holiday programming. It will definitely be a long winter, indeed.
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AugustGirl 11534 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-09-04, 12:57 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Discussion of 12/08 episode" |
FEBRUARY?!?!?!? That is just plain cruel. *sigh*
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12-09-04, 02:53 PM (EST)
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22. "February!!!!" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-09-04 AT 02:55 PM (EST) They are going to lose a lot of the audience unless they repeat the whole thing from the beginning.
And this means the web site game is stuck in limbo for three months. Damn!!!! Damn!!!! Damn network execs! ![](http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/User_files/3d8b533b2f81ad0c.gif) These reality show contestants need a reality check!
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FesterFan1 5947 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-10-04, 02:05 PM (EST)
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30. "The ABC sell" |
The tag at the end of E11 said tune in next week for the 2-hour pilot and watch for what you missed the first time around.Not to mention that I have at least a half-dozen friends who missed the first few episodes and decided they didn't want to catch up. I've told them all that ABC's given them a do-over. Fester It does suck for those of us who have been here from the beginning though.
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12-09-04, 12:05 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Discussion of 12/08 episode" |
One thing that I thought was interesting was when Kate found Jack after he fell off the ledge, and heard Claire scream. The way Kate acted made me believe that she didn't hear the scream. Does this mean that Jack imagined it, or that only certain people can hear things from the others? Or was she just distracted by seeing if Jack was ok and didn't hear it? I am probably reading way too much into this. A J-Slice Christmas Creation
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12-09-04, 01:20 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Discussion of 12/08 episode" |
Nope I thought the same thing myself. I heard the scream enter mixed with thunder. I was also thinking, while Jack was getting his arse kicked, where the hell was Kate???? I mean Jack could not have fallen that far and not have heard or seen Ethan!![](http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/User_files/3db759703e92de78.gif)
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12-09-04, 09:04 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Discussion of 12/08 episode" |
I thought maybe the scream was part of the "voices" that Sayid heard. Perhaps trying to confuse them? But I do have a non sequiter question: The black woman who believes her husband is alive..I haven't seen her in several episodes and I wondered if she is still there? And does anyone think Locke was ex CIA or Navy Seal who was perhaps injured and in fact it was not a real injury just a miliatary experiment gone wrong? And that the island is also a military like experiment..a la the Island of Dr. Moreau?
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-15-04, 07:46 PM (EST)
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35. "Boone and Sis" |
I keep hearing gossip that there is going to be an incestuous relationship between the brother and sister. I certainly hope they don't go there.
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12-16-04, 09:55 AM (EST)
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37. "Incest?" |
I hadn't heard this. Maybe their real names are Blake and Paige.Seriously... Maybe there's a sexual relationship, but no familial relationship. Perhaps the whole brother-sister thing is a ruse to help one of them escape some difficult situation. In other words, maybe Shannon's name is really Susan, and she adopted the identity of Boone's sister to escape some criminal element. Like Jin. Or Kate. My brain hurts.
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