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"E-mail from Roni"
Tinkerbell 1587 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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02-20-03, 12:58 PM (EST)
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"E-mail from Roni" |
I just received this e-mail from Roni:...it's time to move on. Please let my friends know I loved them and wish them well and I didn't do it. Thanks
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PepeLePew13 26142 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 01:01 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-20-03 AT 01:06 PM (EST)Edited to change my response as Webby has now made it clear it is her. Sorry to hear that, and I really appreciate your work to clear this up for us, Webby. Let's move on.
"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."
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jkokoj 4389 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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02-20-03, 01:01 PM (EST)
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3. "Webby has posted it is Roni" |
Very sad.
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L82LIFE 5333 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 01:02 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-20-03 AT 01:13 PM (EST)I'm with Pepe. Now that things have been made clear to us, my response didn't seem right anymore. I'm still keeping the hugs here, though. I think we all need them today. {{{{HUGS}}}}
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 01:03 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
The one thing Roni can do is drop the lies and come clean to the SB community -- if she truly loves and cares for anyone that's what she'd do. This was NOT Ronnet's first ghost-nic used for negative purposes -- it was at least HER THIRD.As I stated in another thread, the evidence is QUITE CLEAR that RONNET was TAIYO. The one thing she COULDN'T HIDE was her IP address trail. Not only do I have thousands of lines of server logs of Ronnet (and only Ronnet) sharing the same set of a dozen or so IP addresses with her various ghost-nics, but I also have the timestamps that show nearly every Taiyo login being both preceeded and followed by Ronnet logins from the same IP address within minutes. The evidence is clear, Roni and Taiyo were the same person, with Roni logging off as Roni and logging on as Taiyo to make the Taiyo posts and then logging back on as Ronnet when she was done. I don't want ANYONE to have ANY DOUBT that there was any injustice done here, that's simply not the case. -SB
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Tinkerbell 1587 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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02-20-03, 01:07 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
Thanks for explaining Webby - I'm very confused and feel like I've been duped. I didn't realize that there had been trouble before (as usually I'm blissfully oblivious of problems)...I just feel like I'm really stupid for believing her, but have a hard time not believing her...does that make sense?I'm just sad about this whole situation.
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sorgee 1455 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 01:08 PM (EST)
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7. "Thank you" |
i think that we can all appreciate the time and effort that you put into confirming the true identity. thank you for doing what you can to keep the boards a nice place to post. (still pouting because i just don't like conflict and sadness...)
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desert_rhino 10087 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 01:08 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-20-03 AT 01:41 PM (EST)Up until last night, though, I saw nothing actually out of line from Taiyo. Controversial, yes. Directly abusive, no. I did, however, see a lot of over-reaction to taiyo before that point. Oh well. see y'all in a bit. Sabbatical time for the rhino. -- JV
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Swami 5885 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 01:35 PM (EST)
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19. "Liberal Lady Loves the Dawg" |
Dawg, I woke up to find this controversy in full swing. I know you to be smart, witty, kind and a patriot. Don't let a monkey yank your chain--this has nothing to do with a political spectrum. Just a stupidity scale.
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SurvivorOverlord 1351 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 01:09 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
Nuff said webby!!You can't fake IP addresses....let's just leave it at that...I think we have spent way to much time on something negative....which is exactly what Taiyo was trying to do...so lets move on to better things!! Wheezy....bring on the dancing rats!!! "It's only cheating if you get caught".....Al Bundy
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L82LIFE 5333 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 01:09 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
Thank you Webby, for taking the time to investigate this matter and then to explain to all of us. You do one hell of a job keeping things orderly here. Thank you.I totally agree with what Tink said. My emotions feel like they've been on one of Buggy's Roller Coasters *waves to the Bug* this morning. I think maybe I'll try to get some work done now. Take care, all of you.
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Q 2569 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 01:11 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
I will accept whatever the mods decide. I have found them to be fair and honest in the past, and I have no reason to change my view now. This day is just turning out to be strange, and bizzare. It is astonishing how foolish humans can be in groups, especially when they follow their leaders without question - States: The Bene Gesserit View. All States Are an Abstraction.
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Masquerade_Mole 18 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 01:21 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
"ghost-nic used for negative purposes -- it was at least HER THIRD."So Webby admits that the Zero Tolerance Policy is shady at best? Apparently Zero is up for interpretation. I swear I made all those nasty posts last night. It's the truth. Webby knows it wasn't her by looking at the IP addresses. But I suppose PepeLePew will call me a liar like he did when I told people my mom had cancer. Justice is pretty shady around here.
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PepeLePew13 26142 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 01:23 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
You know I was far from the only one who called you that -- many others did, why single me out? I called you that because you hid behind a fake name to say that stuff about your mom instead of coming out in the open to talk about it. I haven't done anything to be ashamed of my life that I have to lie about things or use a fake name. How about you?
"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 03:14 PM (EST)
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31. "One more point" |
Exactly one post was made by Taiyo from a Monkeyboy-linked IP address, and it was made this morning.There are about 20 IDs (!!), including Taiyo, linked to Ronnet's IP address that we have found so far, and we're still looking. One of them is an ID that I thought (back during Mole 2) belonged to Monkeyboy, although I'd never had any reason to look into it. This leads to the obvious question of why a Monkeyboy ID would be coming from the same IP address that Ronnet consistently uses. I can, of course, think of a few possible reasons, and I'm sure you all can too.
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Swami 5885 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 01:20 PM (EST)
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13. "Trust the Blue Ones" |
Thank you Webby & mods for all you do to keep this community up & running despite occasional bouts of sabotage. You are much appreciated, and I respect your efforts and judgement.*wonders how to use duct tape and plastic sheeting to protect OT from stupidity saboteurs.*
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Masquerade_Mole 18 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 01:22 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Trust the Blue Ones" |
Hi Swami! :c )Don't trust SherpaDave...he's a pervert too. :c D
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Esbea 7377 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 01:51 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Trust the Blue Ones" |
"Don't trust SherpaDave...he's a pervert too"you say that like its a bad thing..... "NO, NO...I WONT take your nasty medicine!"
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Esbea 7377 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 01:57 PM (EST)
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24. "you perv" |
its about friggin time!
"YES YES...I WILL take your nasty medicine!"
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snoocharoo 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 01:53 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Trust the Blue Ones" |
**adds Sherps name to the GOOD bad boys list**"Don't hate me because I'm beautiful, there are so many other reasons"
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snoocharoo 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 02:11 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Trust the Blue Ones" |
Hmmmm, I'm always looking for new victims....Winky-Boner Katsanova Q-T Big Poppa Sherps punk ass bacon Fester the molester Supes SOL "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful, there are so many other reasons"
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SurvivorOverlord 1351 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 03:16 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Trust the Blue Ones" |
Wahoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!I'm on Snooch's list! --even if I was at the bottom
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Q 2569 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 03:28 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: Trust the Blue Ones" |
Yes she will get a Whack, but will it be with your Winky-Boner?OK, thats enough out of me. It is astonishing how foolish humans can be in groups, especially when they follow their leaders without question - States: The Bene Gesserit View. All States Are an Abstraction.
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snoocharoo 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 03:32 PM (EST)
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40. "Oh my...." |
Shall I ready the garden hose Q??????? "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful, there are so many other reasons"
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snoocharoo 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 03:39 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: Oh my...." |
*LOL* Q would like that!!!! "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful, there are so many other reasons"
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Q 2569 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 03:44 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: Oh my...." |
Lets Run Q out of town on a rail, but wait, he may enjoy that to much. LOL. Its sad but true Snooch. I live to be abused, by you of course. It is astonishing how foolish humans can be in groups, especially when they follow their leaders without question - States: The Bene Gesserit View. All States Are an Abstraction.
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snoocharoo 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 04:48 PM (EST)
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70. "RE: Hey..." |
Wow look Lazarus has joined the party!!! Where ya been S-man??"Don't hate me because I'm beautiful, there are so many other reasons"
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mistofleas 8043 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 01:22 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
I have an IM call out to Roni to find out what was going on with her and haven't gotten a response. Thank you webby for giving us the truth and proof that Taiyo was indeed Roni.I've always liked Roni and will miss her. Taiyo, I didn't care for though. --wonders why so many of our problems come from people using a moniker beginning with "T"
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Tinkerbell 1587 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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02-20-03, 03:06 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
>--wonders why so many of our >problems come from people using >a moniker beginning with "T" >I'm gonna join tjstein in that *pout*
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thndrkttn 3216 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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02-20-03, 03:22 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-20-03 AT 03:22 PM (EST)They referenced a capital T and not lowercase so I consider myself having the immunity 't' in this instance. However, in the words of Letterman from the electric company... ...able to leap captial T in a single bound...it's a word...it's a phrase....it's....
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Q 2569 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 03:24 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
What about Mr. T with the Tall Teeth? You can't forget him.But I still say no other letter is quite as nice as the letter Q. It is astonishing how foolish humans can be in groups, especially when they follow their leaders without question - States: The Bene Gesserit View. All States Are an Abstraction.
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thndrkttn 3216 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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02-20-03, 03:29 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
....faster than a rolling O, stronger than a silent E, not nearly as handsome as Q, it's a word...it's a phrase.... Better?
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tjstein 1960 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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02-20-03, 03:47 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
illicit guilty "suck up" responses from me!All "t" named people will now have me as their servant for the rest of the day. -will work her way down my mind is truly in the gutter and I simply can't go on *faints*
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mistofleas 8043 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 04:01 PM (EST)
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49. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
tj!!! You went there. I can't believe you went there!You're cracking me up. And I know I'm in trouble now, Tech is thinking of things for me to do as her servant. I hope it's stopped snowing in her neck of the woods cuz I really don't want to shovel.
--must remember to be more specific in the future
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tjstein 1960 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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02-20-03, 04:12 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
please, that was practically an engraved invitation to go there! how could I not? *snickers gleefully*
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Esbea 7377 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 04:21 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
then I can become "TEsbea" ...do I have to change into my superhero costume in a telephone booth or anything?
"NO, NO...I WONT take your nasty medicine!"
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TeamJoisey 3558 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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02-20-03, 03:53 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
>--wonders why so many of our >problems come from people using >a moniker beginning with "T" >Hey!! I'm not Taiyo.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 04:22 PM (EST)
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55. "More ghost nics exposed" |
Say goodbye to the following additional ID's folks, they were all part of the apparently very twisted mind of one or two individuals. There may very well be more to come... anyone else out there with ghost nics, I advise you to email me and come clean now. Thanks.angel angelbaby Bambi beachgirl CrazyCat FoxyLady HiSailor herekittykitty (not to be confused with hearkittykitty) Jets klueless lacy ladybug Malibu_Barbie MistyRose PussycatDoll Taiyo TeenSpirit RallyMonkey Roni Ronnet Roxy Scarlet Ursula ZoomZoom
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snoocharoo 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 04:26 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: More ghost nics exposed" |
In all seriousness that is freaking unbelievable!!!! Why would someone or someone's go through all that trouble just to mess with people doing nothing more than minding their own business. This wasn't pointed specifically at OT since I have talked to these psuedonyms in other forums as well as here.Webby I am so sorry that you had to deal with this kind of immature crapola. You deserve a big huge beer!!!! "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful, there are so many other reasons"
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moonbaby 17120 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 04:31 PM (EST)
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58. "RE: More ghost nics exposed" |
Not a single Sybil Dorsett.What a headache!
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mistofleas 8043 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 04:51 PM (EST)
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73. "RE: More ghost nics exposed" |
Not a single Sybil Dorsett.I own 3 copies of that book! --needs to make sure that all of her personalities are treated equally
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Femme 3621 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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02-20-03, 04:32 PM (EST)
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59. "RE: More ghost nics exposed" |
Oh, my. You know, I once sent Roni an email concerning Malibu Barbie. She was probably laughing her head off at me. Foot-in-mouth. LOL.Also, you know Asrai and I occassionaly have the same IP address, right? But, that's only very few times when we are at her house or at mine (like maybe 2 days every month, but, I'm sure that is obvious enough. In fact, we just got done wondering about that on the phone...) Oh, and there was that one time I posted from Sleeeve's bedroom, but that's a whole 'nother story... Femme "I shall no longer play the field; the field stinks, both economically and socially."
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Asrai 6083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 04:51 PM (EST)
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74. "RE: More ghost nics exposed" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-20-03 AT 04:57 PM (EST)Oh, and there was that one time I posted from Sleeeve's bedroom, but that's a whole 'nother story... Now, see, this is where sibling rivalry comes from! You crack me up, sister dear! "When I'm good, I'm very, very good. When I'm bad, I'm better!" Mae West Edited for spelling, since femme carcking me up has nothing to do with her cracking me up!
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Esbea 7377 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 04:58 PM (EST)
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78. "RE: More ghost nics exposed" |
please Asrai......Ive had enough "carcking up" for one day! and darn you for fixing that typo while i was posting this!
"NO, NO...I WONT take your nasty medicine!"
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Red Lady 2010 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator"
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02-20-03, 08:07 PM (EST)
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99. "Malibu Barbie" |
"Oh, my. You know, I once sent Roni an email concerning Malibu Barbie. She was probably laughing her head off at me. Foot-in-mouth. LOL."You know temme, Malibu Barbie was one of my favourite posters to The Mole! I just sent her a friendly wave recently when I thought she had re-appeared after a long hiatus! hahaha...joke's on me! Regards...
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Tinkerbell 1587 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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02-20-03, 04:38 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: More ghost nics exposed" |
Again...Wow...is all I can say.
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snoocharoo 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 04:45 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: More ghost nics exposed" |
She mean-mailed me once about a SouthPark reference I made and I apologized profusely and even did a public apology. Man I feel like schmuck. "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful, there are so many other reasons"
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TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 05:33 PM (EST)
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90. "RE: More ghost nics exposed" |
Are Brand Nubians much different from generic Nubians?(Have a good vacation, btw) "Half of Tech's charm is that sometimes I have no idea what she's talking about" -- True
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PepeLePew13 26142 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 04:45 PM (EST)
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66. "RE: More ghost nics exposed" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-20-03 AT 04:55 PM (EST)Sad, isn't it? I recall that herekittykitty rarely ever said anything at all -- usually only said something in relation to cats -- and come to think of it, her style of posting was similar to Roni's. It's mindboggling the time and trouble an already-banned poster would take to merely hang around in a place where they're not wanted. It makes you wonder just what they're like IRL to need such attention.
"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."
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Q 2569 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 04:57 PM (EST)
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76. "What About?" |
OK, one point here.I do not condone or agree with this whole brew-ha-ha, but... to say that they are not wanted is a little harsh. It may actually be things like this that feed into the problem. Feeling not wanted and banned (no matter what the initial cause was) is probably why they try so hard to return. No One is perfect, we all have faults. We should try to be a little more understanding. We are all upset at what has been going on, and we may be over-reacting in our retoric, even though the mods actions were justified, IMO. Again, I'm not in disagreement with you, but there is no telling what is going on with these posters. Lets just remember to not judge to harshly until we have walked a mile in their shoes. It can be a lonely world out there and you never know what the repercussions of statments made here could be. And don't worry if you completely disagree with me. I'm used to it. I just wish these ghosts, etc would understand that disagreement is part of life. Just deal with it and move on. I hope I have not upset anyone by saying these things.
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PepeLePew13 26142 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 05:03 PM (EST)
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79. "RE: What About?" |
That's quite alright... thanks for sharing your viewpoint -- I'll just whack you Wheezy-style!You do bring up some valid points and I know I can't speak for or imagine what it's like to be in most booted posters' shoes, but this particular person (Monkeyboy) has been unbelievably persistent and he knew full well what he was doing -- most of the stuff he did was before you joined SBlows, I believe. Monkeyboy is one person we can safely say isn't wanted around here.
"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."
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Q 2569 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 05:16 PM (EST)
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85. "RE: What About?" |
First, I'm glad you replied, so now I can re-reply. I was not singling you out at all. You are such a nice person/skunk.Second, This whole prior to me coming to Sblows makes a lot of sense, because I really don't remember more than one of these posters names (aside from Ronnet). I have been running searches today on some of these names to find old posts, and I agree that they are out of line. I just don't get why they do it. So what was this Moneypersons damage anyway? And I should have been more to the point about my disapproval of their posts. I just get worried (and yes my bleeding heart is showing, and is starting to scare even me, LOL) about some of these souls. I fear for their mental health and pray that they do not make rash decisions. It is astonishing how foolish humans can be in groups, especially when they follow their leaders without question - States: The Bene Gesserit View. All States Are an Abstraction.
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PepeLePew13 26142 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 05:11 PM (EST)
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83. "RE: Agreed" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-20-03 AT 05:13 PM (EST)Well, for one thing, Taiyo told Pooh that nobody liked her (typed in a way that was uncalled for) and told me that I should be spending time with my family instead of spending time on SBlows. Both posts were yesterday on his/her post-a-thon of badmouthing people. I can tell for the most part when somebody's joking around or not, and these weren't a joking around post from Taiyo. Edited to add that I agree with Sherps' post. Both my wife and I were quite taken back by Taiyo's comment on my "Picket Fences" post that it had me bugged for a while. And I don't get my feathers ruffled easily. Anyhoo.... hopefully we all can move on from this. This has done a lot to destroy some trust in certain people around here. My wife, for example, is feeling betrayed by Monkeyboy and Ronnet because both supported her after her first foray into the bar a year-and-half ago.
"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."
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Tinkerbell 1587 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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02-20-03, 05:15 PM (EST)
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84. "RE: Agreed" |
>This >has done a lot to >destroy some trust in certain >people around here. *raises hand*
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Q 2569 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 05:23 PM (EST)
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87. "RE: Agreed" |
Thank you for explaining what happened last night to me. As I rarely post at night, I was clueless as to the extensiveness of her/his rantings. I can't beleive that was said. Why? Refer to my above reply for specifics regarding your first reply to my post. I will talk with everyone soon, and will leave you will one thing... Thank you all for everying good you have said to me, Thank you for all the support you guys have given me, Thank you for all the advice I have received here. Lets just remember the good that comes out of our interactions. Those that don't understand that, will never understand that. It is astonishing how foolish humans can be in groups, especially when they follow their leaders without question - States: The Bene Gesserit View. All States Are an Abstraction.
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minitroll 3901 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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02-20-03, 06:05 PM (EST)
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96. "RE: Agreed" |
I was here in OT late last night and saw several very hurtful comments that were made by Taiyo. It had me very upset, but at least Sherps stepped in and put a stop to it. I realize I'm new here, but that was the first time I ever read comments that were that mean spirited from a poster on these boards, especially since a couple of them seemed like personal attacks. Taiyo, Ronnet, Monkeyboy or whoever it was, was clearly trying to bait us.
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Drive My Car 20045 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 04:44 PM (EST)
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63. "RE: More ghost nics exposed" |
Stunned! ( and more then a little pissed about ladybug, was she trying to pretend to be me?)
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Esbea 7377 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 04:47 PM (EST)
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67. "often imitated, never duplicated.." |
we ALL want to be you, Buggy.....
"NO, NO...I WONT take your nasty medicine!"
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PhoenixMons 4696 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 04:48 PM (EST)
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69. "RE: More ghost nics exposed" |
You know I was suspicious for a couple of reasons from the beginning...I asked Roni on a few occasions about her dance background - where she dances, what she does, etc. - (as I'm a dancer myself as is my sister) and was ignored every time. Also, the PussycatDoll/Roxy screennames sent up an alarm since they are also "dance" related and I just thought it odd for some reason. I just chalked it up to being a newbie and her not wanting to divulge too much personal info...now it all makes sense (added with the fact that you couldn't PM her...not that it's totally odd, just made me go hmmmmm when combined with everything else).Now I know why I never got a response when I asked her all those questions! Thanks for solving the mystery.
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not shakes 14 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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02-20-03, 09:35 PM (EST)
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103. "I agree Webby!" |
>>come... anyone else out >there with ghost nics, I >advise you to email me >and come clean now. >Thanks. >...I agree Webby. We can't have these losers running around here posting whatever the heck they want under the guise of some bs ghost nickname. Why don't you losers get some balls and admit who you are. And speaking of losers, I bet Shakes has a ghost nic or two, the insecure attention obsessive DAW that he is. I bet he has 1000's of them. And no, I'm not just grinding an axe cause I got fired after Shakesvivor shut down and I wasn't retained by the producers of BAvivor, Supesvivor, or Blowsvivor...despite my obvious credentials. BTW, did you guys know that Shakes wets the bed....on purpose. How sick is that?
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desert_rhino 10087 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 05:26 PM (EST)
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88. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
I have to say, after observing a group of people who pride themselves on reasonableness and general "niceness," I'm rather impressed at the level of vitriol that I've seen today.Roni is still Roni. Just because she's been declared "safe to attack, persona non grata," doesn't really give you peeps a license to come up with every nasty thing you can think of. It's not every day that I pull out Scripture, but the simple fact that I do not believe in this God does not dilute the message substantially. Our reading today is from the Book of Matthew: ”Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measurement ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote (speck) that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and them shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.” Matthew 7:1-5 “But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words shalt thou be condemned.” Matthew 12:36,37 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach...Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.” Matthew 23:2-3,13 -- JV "What rage for fame attends both great and small! Better be damned than mentioned not at all." --John Wolcot (1738–1819)
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desert_rhino 10087 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 05:46 PM (EST)
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92. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
Re-read the above, and then consider the fact that none of us are exactly what we seem online. It's not possible, nor usually even a desirable state. Then re-read it AGAIN.Just a suggestion. YMMV -- JV "What rage for fame attends both great and small! Better be damned than mentioned not at all." --John Wolcot
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TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 05:47 PM (EST)
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93. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
While I have no desire to detract from the powerful message of Pastor Rhino, I'd like to mention that folks tend to attack when they are frightened. And they are frightened because what they thought they could rely on -- their own judgement -- turned out to be flawed. That can be pretty scary.So let 'em work through it here and then move on. No harm done. Of course why would anybody listen to me? I do not worship at the temple of "nice". In fact I usually find excessive niceness and goodness cause for suspicion. Folks with a little edge, like the Pastor, generally seem more trustworthy to me.
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MakeItStop 1098 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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02-20-03, 07:23 PM (EST)
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97. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
No harm done.Well, I have to disagree with Tech. I understand that you all are upset, but I agree with JV. I'm shocked at the attacks on Munky and Roni that I have read today. I get it -- you guys don't like Monkeyboy, you're upset. But you all are unusually cruel. For example, is it really necessary to say over and over again that he isn't wanted? I don't think so. I'm pretty sure he already knows it. My mother always told me, "if you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all". I would think that it would be more therapeutic to talk about one's own feelings instead of attacking the banned posters. And some of you have done that. I apologize if this sounds like I am preaching, I'm just disappointed at the cruelity that I have seen today. “She’s a beauty queen gone bad!” -- Marcellus about Amy.
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desert_rhino 10087 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 07:36 PM (EST)
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98. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
Indeed, even I have left the Funky Munky out of my admonitions. I offer my most profound apologies."You're not wanted here" is a pretty harsh message, and thanks for just going right ahead and speaking for those who may *not agree* with your sanctimonious pronouncements. Besides, how much *DO* you all trust your own judgement, if a simple change in the wind completely upsets your world view? -- JV "What rage for fame attends both great and small! Better be damned than mentioned not at all." --John Wolcot (1738–1819)
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 08:13 PM (EST)
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100. "Post 100?" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-20-03 AT 08:14 PM (EST)Could it be? Edited to add: Yes, it is! I'm enough of a DAW to want to interrupt this serious discussion to see if I can get post #100. Frankly, I think that says it all.
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SherpaDave 8326 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 08:16 PM (EST)
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101. "RE: Post 100?" |
I'm just happy my Taiyo thread didn't hit 100. Of all the threads I've ever started, that was one of the ones I least wanted to be a monster.And JV... agreed on most of your sentiments. It bothered me a lot last night when Taiyo was personally attacking posters, but at the same time, I greatly hope that whatever set her off isn't anything major and that she's well. Criminals From the Neck Up
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 09:17 PM (EST)
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102. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
>I get it -- you guys don't like Monkeyboy, >you're upset. But you all are unusually cruel. >For example, is it really necessary to say over >and over again that he isn't wanted? I don't >think so. I'm pretty sure he already knows it. >My mother always told me, "if you can't say >anything nice, then don't say anything at all".Apparently HE'S NOT clear on the fact that he's not welcome around here because HE KEEPS COMING BACK. The guy has been banned over a DOZEN TIMES and he keeps coming back. Why would anyone other than a total psycho do that? HE'S NOT WANTED -- how much clearer can it be said? As far as I'm concerned the time for handling Monkey with the kid gloves has long since passed and I'm tired of people "helping" him slip back into this community or being aware of it and looking the other way. As far as Roni, I'm just as disappointed as anyone, after all, this is someone who at one time was SB.com's main news reporter and someone that certainly had my trust -SB
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Drive My Car 20045 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 09:37 PM (EST)
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104. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
Thank You Webby.It is all an issue of trust. I too am sad, and hurt and dissapointed, but we need to do what is best for the community. Webby and the Mods have no personal beef, they are doing what is best to keep this community together. And what they do seems to work, because this board is not like other boards. I have seen more shock and dismay, then meaness over this issue. I don't think anyone is being cruel when they say that using a duplicate ID to hide behind mean words is wrong. Getting a duplicate ID and pretending to be someone else tears down the trust. Without trust OT has nothing, and the other boards suffer. Thank You Webby, and all those you have wisely chosen to help Moderate these forums. I appreciate you all more than you know.
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Schnookie Palookie 16822 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 10:31 PM (EST)
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105. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
Personally, I was not trying to be mean to anyone. I was just expressing my shock and disappointment as were most people who responded.I'm very sad to see Roni gone. However, I won't be made to feel bad because I expressed my shock and disappointment. Thanks Webby & Buggy.
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MakeItStop 1098 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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02-21-03, 01:49 AM (EST)
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111. "RE: E-mail from Roni" |
I'm going to reply to buggy's post since it looks like she is addressing some issues with my post.First off, no where in my post did I say that the mods took inappropriate action. I'm sure they did what they thought was best. I also have seen shock and dismay, but I was talking about the meaness. And that is all. I even said, "I would think that it would be more therapeutic to talk about one's own feelings instead of attacking the banned posters." Expressing shock and dismay would fall into the category of expressing one's feelings. I even acknowledged that some posters have done this. I gave an example of what I was talking about. I DO think that was unusually cruel. So obviously Webby and I disagree on this point ... and perhaps others do to. I was expressing MY opinion. I DO believe that MB is aware of people's feelings. I bet his repeated returns have more to do with pulling a fast one than ignorance of the situation. I pretty much post exactly what I want to say -- no hidden meanings. I wasn't saying that all the posts on this situation have been mean, but there have been many. It was those that I was refering to. “She’s a beauty queen gone bad!” -- Marcellus about Amy.
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Drive My Car 20045 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-21-03, 02:44 AM (EST)
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112. "MIS" |
Oh Make It Stop, I was not addressing you directly. I would elaborate but it is late and I have to get up in 5 hours. Yours were only some of the comments I was addressing, and I think I was kinda addressing the whole situation as a whole. Will clarify when time permits if you need me too. MonkeyBoy really wasn't the issue though was he? Not this time.
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 10:36 PM (EST)
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106. "Top10 Horrible Things About Ronnet" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-20-03 AT 11:38 PM (EST) by SurvivorBlows (admin)Content deleted by SB
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-20-03, 11:37 PM (EST)
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107. "RE: Top10 Horrible Things About Ronnet" |
I'm deleting the content of this posting, you can't hide everything behind a "disclaimer." This post brings multiple issues that aren't relevant to the issue at hand and does nothing productive. If you have concerns about the accuracy of my statements and integrity then don't hide behind a satirical post and email me privately.-SB PS You also got at least a couple of your "facts" wrong.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-21-03, 00:01 AM (EST)
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109. "Multiple nics folowup" |
I want to clarify something on multiple nics... my point with the ghost nics isn't to hunt down every set of roommates, classmates, family members, etc. that share the same computer. It's also not to hunt down every person who registered an ID two years ago, forgot the password or username, and then switched to another ID. These aren't the situations I'm concerned about, but thanks to everyone for being so forthcoming.And my statement was also not even really intended for clear "parody" style ID's where the posters identity is pretty clear and no attempt at (for lack of a better phrase) fraud or deliberate misrepresentation being attempted. ID's like "Tinkerbride", "not sleeeve", and "not shakes" are not the problem. ID's like HawkEye/ICB on the other hand, although "in the know" to a significant number of regulars, do fall into the fringes of the types of ID's I was talking about. I can't remember when it was that I became aware of the Hawk/ICB thing, and at the time I thought I'd asked someone on the mod team to followup with ICB (he's always been ICB to me) and ask him which ID he wanted to keep and which he wanted deactivated... after that I don't know what happened but frankly it was never a high priority on my brain and I forgot all about it until being reminded today. I've since asked ICB to let me know which ID he wants to keep and we'll be getting rid of the other one. Thanks, SB
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-21-03, 01:16 AM (EST)
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110. "Some more IP details" |
I just want to address this idea of "faulty" IP addresses that seems to be persisting in the minds of some users. There are a number of reasons I'm not going to reveal the particulars of the details of the investigation, but I want to make it clear that there's nothing "faulty" about the conclusion, the evidence is quite clear with all possibilities examined and analyzed.Even the ever popular "MK kidnapped her ID(s)" doesn't hold water -- all these possibilities were carefully investigated and considered, this had been an open, active investigation that was already underway before the events of last evening and was not treated trivially. With all due respect, do not speak of matters on which you are not qualified and do not spread additional gossip and rumor. And please do not presume to "know" what the adminstrative team knew and when they knew it, it always amazes me what people think they "know." Thanks, SB
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LadyT 5567 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-21-03, 02:49 AM (EST)
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113. "Roni, if you are reading this" |
I am stunned. Betrayed, shocked and stunned and in a state of disbelief. My immediate question is why? I know I will never get an answer to this, but I am stunned.I have tears in my eyes. Roni, we have been here since the beginning and I know it's odd since we haven't ever met, but I felt like we were friends. When I came here tonight and noticed that I had to log in, I knew someone was banned but I never thought it could possibly be you. I don't even know how to end this, so I just will.
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-21-03, 03:26 AM (EST)
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114. "RE: Roni, if you are reading this" |
This has all been very sad and shocking. Though the evidence leaves no room for reasonable doubt, I still find it difficult to believe that the Roni I knew around here was capable of making those Taiyo attack posts. Let us pray that whatever unhappiness she is experiencing in her life, she will find a way to defeat it and return to herself. I will always remember the happy, irreverent dancer, the diligent stringer/reporter, the gentle lady I sometimes had the priviledge of sharing time with in chat. Peace.
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